[X]3 Year Plans
Attempting to Fulfil The Plan: ISOT Edition
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[x] 3 Year Plans
You vote for 3 year plans because of concerns about our ability to react to rapidly changing conditions. I vote for a 3 year plan because if we do 2 we can start 5 year plans on 20ae so the plans start and finishe on years divisible by 5. We are not the same.
You vote for 3 year plans because of concerns about our ability to react to rapidly changing conditions. I vote for a 3 year plan because if we do 2 we can start 5 year plans on 20ae so the plans start and finishe on years divisible by 5. We are not the same.
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[X] 3 Year Plans
Is anyone else kinda disturbed at how nonchalantly Aitana treated the deaths from the NAT 1 disasters? 'Several dozen miners died, but luckily people are blaming my political opposition.' 'A dam collapsed, but the good news is that it managed to kill the villagers it was meant for, so we don't have to rebuild it.' Its making me a bit worried about how reliable her POV is.
Is anyone else kinda disturbed at how nonchalantly Aitana treated the deaths from the NAT 1 disasters? 'Several dozen miners died, but luckily people are blaming my political opposition.' 'A dam collapsed, but the good news is that it managed to kill the villagers it was meant for, so we don't have to rebuild it.' Its making me a bit worried about how reliable her POV is.
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Keep in mind that Aitana legit has the most blood on her hands out of anyone in the PRM outside of war. Like she legit arranged a massacre, a basically justified one admittedly but she's probably a bit numb to deaths at this point.
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- A haze of forgetfulness
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Its been 12 turns and that canal still isn't built.
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We did pause for a while
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yeah, smallpox + famine was a bit of a setback in terms of canal construction
We've already got a team trying to transcribe the core knowledge onto physical media, I doubt they're going to get literally every single wikipedia page but salvaging the core technical and historical information seems to be possible at least.
Stellarengine676
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[X]3 Year Plans
Offline Wikipedia isn't that big, so as long as you keep most of the hard drive population in stable storage and use as few as possible at a time, you could probably stretch it out for many years. It's devastatingly vulnerable to sabotage, although most people who realize that are also probably aware that destroying the densest center of the uptime knowledge base is an outright crime against humanity.
Unfortunately, there are some groups around who would knowingly do that, either out of nihilism or the worst kind of realpolitik.
Unfortunately, there are some groups around who would knowingly do that, either out of nihilism or the worst kind of realpolitik.
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- France
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I think this kind of callousness is an inevitable coping mechanism when industrial accident deaths is endemic to our tech base. If you took every death personally as a leader you'd probably collapse in short order.
This isn't healthy long term but there isn't really any options except improving the quality of our work and that's going to take education over time.
And the bit about not having to rebuild a dam for the village stuck me more as gallow humour to cope than anything.
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[X] 3 Year Plans
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Yeah early tech isn't very kind to people, and I definitely see the humour.
Creation of the First Three-Year Plan
Creation of the First Three-Year Plan
415+70 Trade +15 Precious Metals=500 Resources per turn, 0 in storage
66 Political Support
Election Results:
The elections for the new seats in the Central Committee have been held in the major cities of the Peloponnese, with fairly good results for the more progressive parties. The Intensificationists seem to have been hurt by their efforts at reducing the ability of the illiterate population to vote, with both of the more progressive political groupings engaging in campaigns to teach illiterate workers at least enough to cast a ballot for the correct party. In the end, two of the new members are Maoists, two are Agrarians, and the Intensificationists and moderates only got one seat each. Still, the lack of party discipline among the Agrarians has meant that a few of their members are still voting in favor of the current administration, meaning that not a huge amount has changed in terms of personnel.
The First Three Year-Plan
The creation of an actual plan for economic development is fraught with political maneuvering with the Central Committee, as various members almost all want wildly differing and impractical growth targets, which cannot all be fulfilled with the resources available. What is possible and what is not is a highly contentious question, and there seems to be no way to satisfy everyone or even a large majority.
Funding
[]Decreased Resource Allocation: While current tax burdens may not be horrific to the level of causing famines, it still causes considerable hardship to many of our citizens. Giving them a break for some time will prove quite popular. (350 base resources per turn, +20 Political Support)
[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
[]Increased Resource Allocation: While it may be unpopular, keeping up the rapid pace of industrialization requires more resources to be made available for the task. Increasing taxes by a small amount will enable this, while still being mostly tolerable. (480 base resources per turn, -30 Political Support)
Metal-Fuel-Construction-Electricity Group:
[]150% increases in MFCE: The further construction of more mines, steel mills, cement plants, and a few scattered power plants is something that must be done, but it must be balanced with investments in other areas of the economy. (-15 Political Support)
[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
[]250% increase in MFCE: With an increase in the budget of the Ministry, massive expansions to heavy industry can be made, rapidly bringing the Republic out of the feudal mode of production thanks to the help of attracting Downtimer immigrants and Egyptian food supplies. (20 Political Support)
Capital Goods:
[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
[]170% increase in capital goods production: An emphasis on expansion of machinery plants and the start of industrial polymer production will allow for the development of the economy to be further accelerated. (0 Political Support)
[]210% increase in capital goods production: Large investments areas critical for the future development of the economy will bear massive fruits in the future, justifying current sacrifices in other sectors. (+20 Political Support)
Consumer Goods:
[]100% increase in consumer goods production: While investments in areas such as textiles, various trinkets, and other goods may not be as directly beneficial to the goals of the Revolution as investments in the military, heavy industry, or education, it is important to grow the economy in a balanced manner and improve the standard of living of our citizens. Still, it should be a secondary focus to areas directly critical for the continuing survival of the Revolution. (-10 Political Support)
[]150% increase in consumer goods production: With the coming ability to mass produce plastics in large quantities, many previously impossible or expensive goods can be provided to the citizenry in massive quantities. If we actually want to improve the lives of the workers, investing in the possibilities they provide should be a priority. (+5 Political Support)
[]200% increase in consumer goods production: The world is far larger than just the Popular Republic - there are millions of people in the Mediterranean basin. Exporting large amounts of consumer goods will provide large amounts of trade income for future development of the economy, without giving other states any real military advantage. Trade with reactionary states may seem a betrayal at first, but their lead can be made into bullets just as easily as ours. (+20 Political Support)
Agriculture:
[]25% increase in agricultural production: With basic investments in irrigation, the mechanization of agriculture, and encouraging the spread of modern varieties of crops and simple agricultural techniques yet further, agricultural yields can be increased by a fairly large amount without taking away resources from other sectors of the economy. (-5 Political Support)
[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
[]55% increase in agricultural production: Heavy investments in agriculture and fishing, alongside attracting immigrants from other countries to increase our agricultural workforce yet further, will enable a great increase in agricultural production. (+20 Political Support)
Education:
[]Expanded Education: Education is the top priority of the Republic, both to increase economic output and to enlighten our citizenry to participate in the construction of democracy and communism. Still, the simple fact is that serious shortages in educated personnel limit what can be done in the immediate term, and we will have to wait for some of our previous education initiatives to pay off until the system can be made truly universal. (Stage 4 Primary schools in both the Peloponnese and the Liberated Territories, Stage 2 Secondary Schools) (-10 Political Support)
[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
[]Nationwide Compulsory Education: Top priority must be given to all educational efforts, giving us the possibility of becoming the first nation on Earth to give compulsory and free education to all of its inhabitants within three years. Building up an educated population, even if subpar across the board for now, will give us a massive advantage on the world stage and bring us closer to the dream of fully advanced Communism. (stage 5 primary across country, stage 3 secondary, stage 1 advanced education, Nationwide Compulsory Education) (+30 Political Support)
Military:
[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
[]Increased Expansion: Increasing the amount of artillery and more modern small arms in the People's Army while still relying on muskets for much of the troops will be both achievable in terms of resources and make the Revolution more defensible against better-armed threats. (cannon production (stage 6), rifle production (stage 5) bolt action rifle production (stage 4), submachine gun production (stage 4), monitor construction campaign, formalized officer training (stage 1)) (0 Political Support)
[]Thorough Modernization: Muskets are already completely obsolete, and we can make the transition to semi-modern firearms immediately with huge amounts of unreliable and inaccurate but still functional submachine guns without having to waste resources on weapons that are two centuries outdated. Further advances in artillery production and officer training can also be made, increasing the quality of our troops as well as our weapons. (cannon production (stage 6), bolt action rifle production (stage 5), submachine gun production (stage 6), monitor construction campaign, formalized officer education (stage 2), artillery shell plants (stage 1)) (+30 Political Support)
Additional Promises:
[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
[]Infrastructure Modernization: Increasing the ease at which goods and labor can be moved around the Republic is critical to economic development as well as military readiness. Additionally, these investments mostly only require large amounts of labor and not anything more precious. (Stage 5 lock systems, Stage 4 ports, Stage 2 paved roads, Railways stage 1) (+10 Political Support)
[]Population Investments: While it may not directly be involved in increasing production, a thorough effort to modernize the cities of the Republic, as well as provide a less harmful and more convenient fuel source than lignite for the entire country, will have great benefits in the long term. (Stage 3 peloponnese city modernization, Liberated territories city reconstruction and modernization stage 4, Semicoke plants, City electrical grids (stage 1)) (+15 Political Support)
12 Hour Moratorium, vote by plan
415+70 Trade +15 Precious Metals=500 Resources per turn, 0 in storage
66 Political Support
Election Results:
The elections for the new seats in the Central Committee have been held in the major cities of the Peloponnese, with fairly good results for the more progressive parties. The Intensificationists seem to have been hurt by their efforts at reducing the ability of the illiterate population to vote, with both of the more progressive political groupings engaging in campaigns to teach illiterate workers at least enough to cast a ballot for the correct party. In the end, two of the new members are Maoists, two are Agrarians, and the Intensificationists and moderates only got one seat each. Still, the lack of party discipline among the Agrarians has meant that a few of their members are still voting in favor of the current administration, meaning that not a huge amount has changed in terms of personnel.
The First Three Year-Plan
The creation of an actual plan for economic development is fraught with political maneuvering with the Central Committee, as various members almost all want wildly differing and impractical growth targets, which cannot all be fulfilled with the resources available. What is possible and what is not is a highly contentious question, and there seems to be no way to satisfy everyone or even a large majority.
Funding
[]Decreased Resource Allocation: While current tax burdens may not be horrific to the level of causing famines, it still causes considerable hardship to many of our citizens. Giving them a break for some time will prove quite popular. (350 base resources per turn, +20 Political Support)
[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
[]Increased Resource Allocation: While it may be unpopular, keeping up the rapid pace of industrialization requires more resources to be made available for the task. Increasing taxes by a small amount will enable this, while still being mostly tolerable. (480 base resources per turn, -30 Political Support)
Metal-Fuel-Construction-Electricity Group:
[]150% increases in MFCE: The further construction of more mines, steel mills, cement plants, and a few scattered power plants is something that must be done, but it must be balanced with investments in other areas of the economy. (-15 Political Support)
[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
[]250% increase in MFCE: With an increase in the budget of the Ministry, massive expansions to heavy industry can be made, rapidly bringing the Republic out of the feudal mode of production thanks to the help of attracting Downtimer immigrants and Egyptian food supplies. (20 Political Support)
Capital Goods:
[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
[]170% increase in capital goods production: An emphasis on expansion of machinery plants and the start of industrial polymer production will allow for the development of the economy to be further accelerated. (0 Political Support)
[]210% increase in capital goods production: Large investments areas critical for the future development of the economy will bear massive fruits in the future, justifying current sacrifices in other sectors. (+20 Political Support)
Consumer Goods:
[]100% increase in consumer goods production: While investments in areas such as textiles, various trinkets, and other goods may not be as directly beneficial to the goals of the Revolution as investments in the military, heavy industry, or education, it is important to grow the economy in a balanced manner and improve the standard of living of our citizens. Still, it should be a secondary focus to areas directly critical for the continuing survival of the Revolution. (-10 Political Support)
[]150% increase in consumer goods production: With the coming ability to mass produce plastics in large quantities, many previously impossible or expensive goods can be provided to the citizenry in massive quantities. If we actually want to improve the lives of the workers, investing in the possibilities they provide should be a priority. (+5 Political Support)
[]200% increase in consumer goods production: The world is far larger than just the Popular Republic - there are millions of people in the Mediterranean basin. Exporting large amounts of consumer goods will provide large amounts of trade income for future development of the economy, without giving other states any real military advantage. Trade with reactionary states may seem a betrayal at first, but their lead can be made into bullets just as easily as ours. (+20 Political Support)
Agriculture:
[]25% increase in agricultural production: With basic investments in irrigation, the mechanization of agriculture, and encouraging the spread of modern varieties of crops and simple agricultural techniques yet further, agricultural yields can be increased by a fairly large amount without taking away resources from other sectors of the economy. (-5 Political Support)
[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
[]55% increase in agricultural production: Heavy investments in agriculture and fishing, alongside attracting immigrants from other countries to increase our agricultural workforce yet further, will enable a great increase in agricultural production. (+20 Political Support)
Education:
[]Expanded Education: Education is the top priority of the Republic, both to increase economic output and to enlighten our citizenry to participate in the construction of democracy and communism. Still, the simple fact is that serious shortages in educated personnel limit what can be done in the immediate term, and we will have to wait for some of our previous education initiatives to pay off until the system can be made truly universal. (Stage 4 Primary schools in both the Peloponnese and the Liberated Territories, Stage 2 Secondary Schools) (-10 Political Support)
[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
[]Nationwide Compulsory Education: Top priority must be given to all educational efforts, giving us the possibility of becoming the first nation on Earth to give compulsory and free education to all of its inhabitants within three years. Building up an educated population, even if subpar across the board for now, will give us a massive advantage on the world stage and bring us closer to the dream of fully advanced Communism. (stage 5 primary across country, stage 3 secondary, stage 1 advanced education, Nationwide Compulsory Education) (+30 Political Support)
Military:
[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
[]Increased Expansion: Increasing the amount of artillery and more modern small arms in the People's Army while still relying on muskets for much of the troops will be both achievable in terms of resources and make the Revolution more defensible against better-armed threats. (cannon production (stage 6), rifle production (stage 5) bolt action rifle production (stage 4), submachine gun production (stage 4), monitor construction campaign, formalized officer training (stage 1)) (0 Political Support)
[]Thorough Modernization: Muskets are already completely obsolete, and we can make the transition to semi-modern firearms immediately with huge amounts of unreliable and inaccurate but still functional submachine guns without having to waste resources on weapons that are two centuries outdated. Further advances in artillery production and officer training can also be made, increasing the quality of our troops as well as our weapons. (cannon production (stage 6), bolt action rifle production (stage 5), submachine gun production (stage 6), monitor construction campaign, formalized officer education (stage 2), artillery shell plants (stage 1)) (+30 Political Support)
Additional Promises:
[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
[]Infrastructure Modernization: Increasing the ease at which goods and labor can be moved around the Republic is critical to economic development as well as military readiness. Additionally, these investments mostly only require large amounts of labor and not anything more precious. (Stage 5 lock systems, Stage 4 ports, Stage 2 paved roads, Railways stage 1) (+10 Political Support)
[]Population Investments: While it may not directly be involved in increasing production, a thorough effort to modernize the cities of the Republic, as well as provide a less harmful and more convenient fuel source than lignite for the entire country, will have great benefits in the long term. (Stage 3 peloponnese city modernization, Liberated territories city reconstruction and modernization stage 4, Semicoke plants, City electrical grids (stage 1)) (+15 Political Support)
12 Hour Moratorium, vote by plan
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[] Plan Years of Agriculture, Learning, And Roads
-[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
-[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
-[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
-[]100% increase in consumer goods production: While investments in areas such as textiles, various trinkets, and other goods may not be as directly beneficial to the goals of the Revolution as investments in the military, heavy industry, or education, it is important to grow the economy in a balanced manner and improve the standard of living of our citizens. Still, it should be a secondary focus to areas directly critical for the continuing survival of the Revolution. (-10 Political Support)
-[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
-[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
-[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
-[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
-[]Infrastructure Modernization: Increasing the ease at which goods and labor can be moved around the Republic is critical to economic development as well as military readiness. Additionally, these investments mostly only require large amounts of labor and not anything more precious. (Stage 5 lock systems, Stage 4 ports, Stage 2 paved roads, Railways stage 1) (+10 Political Support)
Okay so here's a tenative plan that I believe plays to our strengths as best we can while setting as close to a realistic goal as possible. It's still wildly unrealistic but some of it should be achievable.
Edit: Okay also putting modified verison here that drops Infastructure Modernization for increase in Consumer goods production
[] Plan Years of Agriculture, Learning, And Goods
-[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
-[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
-[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
[]150% increase in consumer goods production: With the coming ability to mass produce plastics in large quantities, many previously impossible or expensive goods can be provided to the citizenry in massive quantities. If we actually want to improve the lives of the workers, investing in the possibilities they provide should be a priority. (+5 Political Support)
-[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
-[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
-[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
-[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
-[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
-[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
-[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
-[]100% increase in consumer goods production: While investments in areas such as textiles, various trinkets, and other goods may not be as directly beneficial to the goals of the Revolution as investments in the military, heavy industry, or education, it is important to grow the economy in a balanced manner and improve the standard of living of our citizens. Still, it should be a secondary focus to areas directly critical for the continuing survival of the Revolution. (-10 Political Support)
-[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
-[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
-[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
-[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
-[]Infrastructure Modernization: Increasing the ease at which goods and labor can be moved around the Republic is critical to economic development as well as military readiness. Additionally, these investments mostly only require large amounts of labor and not anything more precious. (Stage 5 lock systems, Stage 4 ports, Stage 2 paved roads, Railways stage 1) (+10 Political Support)
Okay so here's a tenative plan that I believe plays to our strengths as best we can while setting as close to a realistic goal as possible. It's still wildly unrealistic but some of it should be achievable.
Edit: Okay also putting modified verison here that drops Infastructure Modernization for increase in Consumer goods production
[] Plan Years of Agriculture, Learning, And Goods
-[]Continue the Course: Continuing taxes at the current levels will keep us with a sufficient resource base to continue industrialization, while keeping the standard of living of our population steadily increasing. (415 base resources per turn, 0 Political Support)
-[]200% increase in MFCE: Increased investments in heavy industry are critical for the continuing economic development of the Republic. It also happens to require far less skilled labor and complex machinery than some other areas of the economy, which is quite fortunate for us. (0 Political Support)
-[]130% increase in capital goods production: While mechanization of all areas of the economy is extremely important, the simple fact is that limits on the availability of trained personnel and raw materials limit what can be done to a certain extent. (-15 Political Support)
[]150% increase in consumer goods production: With the coming ability to mass produce plastics in large quantities, many previously impossible or expensive goods can be provided to the citizenry in massive quantities. If we actually want to improve the lives of the workers, investing in the possibilities they provide should be a priority. (+5 Political Support)
-[]40% increase in agricultural production: While we may not yet have the ability to mass produce fertilizers, investments in pesticides and herbicides will still increase overall yields and reduce labor use by a considerable amount. When combined with other projects, a significant step forward in agricultural production can be made. (+5 Political Support)
-[]Partial Compulsory Education: The education of the population must be done as quickly as possible, and while it may not be possible to educate every single child in the Republic, the system is developed enough in the Peloponnese to make primary education for children compulsory within three years. Additionally, efforts can be made to create an institution for retraining American immigrants who had pre-Event education on certain subjects like medicine and engineering. (Stage 5 primary Peloponnese, stage 4 primary elsewhere, stage 2 secondary, stage 1 advanced education) (+5 Political Support)
-[]Moderate Expansion: Giving more and better equipment to our military is a necessary action, as a few thousand pipe guns aren't going to be enough against anyone who didn't enslave 95% of their population. Massively increasing the production of black powder rifles will do good enough to arm most of our troops for now, with the few more modern weapons produced being given to professional formations. Starting the mass issuance of mortars on the battalion level should also be enough to ensure that the Revolution is able to defend itself, at least for the near term. (cannon production (stage 5), rifle production (stage 5), bolt action rifle production (stage 3), submachine gun production (stage 3), monitor construction campaign) (-20 Political Support)
-[]Agricultural Modernization: The construction of more dams and irrigation systems are critical for increasing agricultural yields as well as their other benefits, and a combination of the mechanization of agricultural labor and the encouragement of immigration will enable more laborers to be assigned to industrial tasks. (Stage 5 dams, Stage 4 agricultural modernization, Downtimer immigrant recruitment) (+10 Political Support)
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Kinda leaning towards lower taxes, we keep the income from trade and silver so we can slam out some more trade goods projects to make up for the lost income and it would be a good way to get more downtimers to move over and farm the war and smallpox ravaged liberated lands!
For goals, we can do the MFCE goals easily imo. We have a lot of new mines too develop plus we're just getting started on electricity so that can also go up quickly.
Capital goods I'm a bit iffier on. We have plenty of demand in the form of mechanizing agriculture and congoods but we also done some of that already so idk if we have enough time to expand that much.
Con goods won't be that hard either, between our growing trade network and the demand that'll emerge from the liberated territories we have plenty of room to expand it and it tends to be fairly low cost too.
Ag can go wherever, I'd say medium or low because I don't want us to be stuck doing fertilizers and pesticides every turn of the plan, also our sginsorer is a hippy who might interfere with things and I'd like to get rid of her before we chemicalize.
Education I'd say partial compulsory, the beauty of the 3yp is that we can see what cracks form and either let it cook for the plan after or make it ful compulsory
Military: under no circumstances should we take modernization. We need those resources and raw materials elsewhere and it's entirely overkill if it does what's intended. Given how much of a bottle eco we have for smokeless powder I'm not sure it wouldn't screw over our military. Instead let's do modest expansion, my hope is we can replace our rifle-muskets the levies use with a single shot breach loaders while still kitting out or pros in ww1 kit.
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Don't underestimate the infra project, all of those are rural labor intensive so we have only 3 turns this plan where we can go heavy into them, plus locks will probably require dams as well. I'd also treat it and population modernization as exclusive since I doubt we have enough infra dice to do both at the proper speed. I'd say infra over population modernization, we should focus on getting our logistics sorted out while putting some dice into city quality where we got a spare.
For goals, we can do the MFCE goals easily imo. We have a lot of new mines too develop plus we're just getting started on electricity so that can also go up quickly.
Capital goods I'm a bit iffier on. We have plenty of demand in the form of mechanizing agriculture and congoods but we also done some of that already so idk if we have enough time to expand that much.
Con goods won't be that hard either, between our growing trade network and the demand that'll emerge from the liberated territories we have plenty of room to expand it and it tends to be fairly low cost too.
Ag can go wherever, I'd say medium or low because I don't want us to be stuck doing fertilizers and pesticides every turn of the plan, also our sginsorer is a hippy who might interfere with things and I'd like to get rid of her before we chemicalize.
Education I'd say partial compulsory, the beauty of the 3yp is that we can see what cracks form and either let it cook for the plan after or make it ful compulsory
Military: under no circumstances should we take modernization. We need those resources and raw materials elsewhere and it's entirely overkill if it does what's intended. Given how much of a bottle eco we have for smokeless powder I'm not sure it wouldn't screw over our military. Instead let's do modest expansion, my hope is we can replace our rifle-muskets the levies use with a single shot breach loaders while still kitting out or pros in ww1 kit.
Additional:
Don't underestimate the infra project, all of those are rural labor intensive so we have only 3 turns this plan where we can go heavy into them, plus locks will probably require dams as well. I'd also treat it and population modernization as exclusive since I doubt we have enough infra dice to do both at the proper speed. I'd say infra over population modernization, we should focus on getting our logistics sorted out while putting some dice into city quality where we got a spare.