Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Are there separate rules then for something like an MG nest, or a vehicle mounted MG?
That sort of rule works well enough for automatic small arms, but would seem to start to break down once you start getting into crew-served weapons, vehicle mounts, and such.
 
He is both. Gods in exalted are representation of a thing, but are still the thing.

Not....exactly. The common refrain is "the god is not the river."

Gods are fairly modular, actually. They have various powers related to the management of what they are the god of, but they can switch that out extremely easily and take on new jobs and roles due to politics. Ahlat, for example, began his life as a god of walruses in the North, but through ambition, skill, politics, and backstabbing(but I repeat myself), he worked his way up to becoming the Southern God of War.

The Incarna are a little weird in the sense that they were never designed for the sort of managerial roles that gods usually have. They were purpose built for their roles.

Now, Demons of the Second and Third Circles are absolutely their thing. Ligier, for example, is quite literally the Green Sun at the same time he is a four armed prince.
 
Are there separate rules then for something like an MG nest, or a vehicle mounted MG?
That sort of rule works well enough for automatic small arms, but would seem to start to break down once you start getting into crew-served weapons, vehicle mounts, and such.
Unfortunatly there are not.
Mage has some heavy weapons, but while those have huge clips, damage and range they do not change the rules for things like full-auto or burst-fire.

But since DP has already changed the rules for Cannons when the possessed sub fired at us, I'm sure he will try to find a sane solution for stationary MGs or Technocratic Cyborgs with chaingun-arms and such.
 
[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X] Ask urgent questions via the crown:
--[X] Use the building or its website, if it is still up, as a focus of the crown. The question to ask is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
--[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after we regain our power.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.

We should later use one of the guards, or one of the victims to find our the ultimate mastermind behind their suffering, ie the backer audacious enough to farm raksha.
 
[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X] Ask urgent questions via the crown:
--[X] Use the building or its website, if it is still up, as a focus of the crown. The question to ask is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
--[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after we regain our power.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.
 
What do you do next?

VOTE
[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists

-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X]Crown of Eyes: NotWolverine: What way do they open?: -1 Essence
-[X]Crown of Eyes: NotWolverine's Partner: Dr Niemi's cellphone number: -1 Essence
-[X]Return to hotel; run check with cyberdevils in hotel network and in La Blanche's phone if anything of significance has happened
-[X]Let Michael and Lydia use the bathroom first.
-[X]Two hour bleach soak to regen 9/11 HLs and 4/12 Essence to full
-[X]Call Dresden at scheduled time. Use Burny, not his landline, to avoid Daedalus landline intercepts if they exist.
-[X]Wait for Lydia to refresh Essence at (sunset? midnight?) before setting out again.
-[X]Cyberdevils:
--[X]Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X]Cultist phone history, with aim of finding out why they wanted the gossamer, and any safe houses to flee to
-[X]STUNT: A last look around the erstwhile chamber of horrors,p. "One minute".In moments you are goinh through their pockets, ignoring bulging billfolds and credit cards in favor of a small pile of cellphones. At your Dad's look, you explain as you stuff them in your pockets "Loose ends, Dad. Niemi was apparently scamming both Iku Turso and the poor people here. His people's phones might help us figure why." A hurried departure through empty passageways gets you out of there just ahead of a throng of firemen and EMTs, and you only have a brief meeting with Ruth Koskinen ebfore slipping out the foyer and down the sidewalk.

RATIONALE
Finish your sidequests if you want bonus XP.

Crown of Eyes because Molly doesnt know that the Outer Gates exist IC.
Figuring out they are a thing actually allows her to follow up, and gives her some of the setting's deep lore.

Niemi's cellphone, if it exists, allows us to HMP the phone as a tracker.
Or just burn a Crown question for his location.
Just call about his car's extended warranty.

Niemi has been doing this shit for weeks at a minimum.
Where's the rest of the gossamer mined in that time? And why did he and his patrons want it?
That stuff is immensely valuable and potentially immensely dangerous.

Tool Constructs gives us the ability to establish a hardlink(phone cable) between phones, so it should be trivial for Clippy to hoover up internet histories, texts, and emails like he is actually on their phone. No hacking necessary.
And then crunch it for actually relevant info that isnt stuff like penis-enlarger ads.

It occurs to me we could just walk into Niemi's trashed office and ask "What was he trying to hide?"
But it feels like a Plan Z.
 
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Yeah, a cultist doing their best Terminator impression with a minigun (assuming that they're beefy enough to actually handle it) should be a serious threat, given that they would be able to pump out a whole lot of lead very fast, possibly for a sustained period of time as well. It's also well into the range where you need pretty beefy cover to actually stop rounds from it; a .50 would be getting into the realm of 'fuck you, fuck your cover, and fuck the wall behind you too'.
 
I think we need to separate the questions into the urgent ones, and non-urgent ones. I don't think gossamer is immediately useful, unless you think they are going to use it right now, or destroy it. Same with the "what way are they opening" unless, again, they are going to attempt their actual plan now.

Still, some good ideas. I'll take some of those.

[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi interrogating the prisoners.
---[X] Use Intimidation excellency
---[X] Focus on who they work for, who they were in contact with, etc.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.

Something like that.
 
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were these madlads trying to farm Raksha? o_O

huh, nice Egyptian tidbit. Could have also used Urizen I guess?
Also, if Michaels/DF White God was more like IRL God and less like Jim's personal delusions, shaping order out of chaos would have been like N1 on his list of deeds. I mean, doesn't it all starts with spirit of god over unshaped ocean of chaos, which he divides? A lot of parallels with Theion there... probably where Exalted got the inspiration?

niiice, very nice. bribing fae aside, this is a supreme crafting tool if we decide to make something.

Or we can use red court to hunt down the cultists.

Eeeh, donno man. White Council is always head-chop happy, just not sure how good they would be tracking anyone of import down. Their magic is a bit too... straightforward for this?
Dude even Dresden files God isn't simply just yhwh from what we've seen. Not sure why you're calling it delusions it's an urban fantasy setting. He's as much said Hindu stuff can be considered holy and of him and the fae call him the white god.
 
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[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi interrogating the prisoners.
---[X] Use Intimidation excellency
---[X] Focus on who they work for, who they were in contact with, etc.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.
 
Yeah, a cultist doing their best Terminator impression with a minigun (assuming that they're beefy enough to actually handle it) should be a serious threat, given that they would be able to pump out a whole lot of lead very fast, possibly for a sustained period of time as well. It's also well into the range where you need pretty beefy cover to actually stop rounds from it; a .50 would be getting into the realm of 'fuck you, fuck your cover, and fuck the wall behind you too'.
A manportable minigun doesnt carry enough ammo for more than ten second or so of automatic fire.
The M134 weighst around 85 pounds before ammo, and at 3000-7000 rpm, will burn a belt of 200 rounds in four seconds.
And ultimately its still firing 7.62mm ammo.

I think we need to separate the questions into the urgent ones, and non-urgent ones. I don't think gossamer is immediately useful, unless you think they are going to use it right now, or destroy it. Same with the "what way are they opening" unless, again, they are going to attempt their actual plan now.

Still, some good ideas. I'll take some of those.
1)Lydia does not fully recharge until midnight. Its currently 5 pm. We have 7 hours to fill.
So frankly, there is no basis for subclassification into urgent questions and the rest; we arent going anywhere until our party members are up to snuff.

2)Based on his performance, Niemi is a sorcerer with at least three Paths of specialty:
Summoning/Wards/Binding.
Hellfire.
Fascination or Illusion, possibly both.

We dont know what he could do with gossamer.
Hire an army of Wyldfae? Summon multiple demons? Build a magical superweapon? Summon Outsiders? Has he been doing this all along and stockpiling them offsite?

We have no frame for reference, besides its being valuable enough to literally make you an Ally of a major Fae Court for a couple hundred milliters from what I can tell.

3)Deep Lore.
Molly does not know what the Outer Gates are, she doesnt know that the Winter Court guards them.
She knows Outsiders are Bad. She doesnt know why.
 
Yeah, hence the assumption that such an opponent would need to be physically beefed up… Perchance like the Wolverine wannabe, or like the berzerkers that we fought a while back.
That said, even something smaller could do a whole lot of damage, particularly if there isn't any hard cover close at hand (concrete highway barriers would be hard cover; cars, with the possible exception of the engine blocks, would not be, nor would most residential building walls.
 
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[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi interrogating the prisoners.
---[X] Use Intimidation excellency
---[X] Focus on who they work for, who they were in contact with, etc.

-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.
Michael literally just said things are in good hands.

The cultists are in police custody or fled. There is noone to Intimidate.
You dont seriously think we are about to carry 9x captured people to our hotel room in broad daylight?
Its 5pm. In summer. And our only vehicle is our Dad's truck. Even in a Chicago ghetto that would draw attention.

Harry does not have email. And Burny's installed on a Nokia 3310.
Not to mention that with Feds around, you want to minimize sending data electronically,
Thats why we're supposed to call, so that in case that line too is tapped, we can talk obliquely.

Delivery pizza in a city where you are engaged in combat is the story equivalent of cursing the gods while standing on the top of a tall hill in a thunderstorm, carrying a metal spike.
 
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Yeah, hence the assumption that such an opponent would need to be physically beefed up… Perchance like the Wolverine wannabe.
He wasnt beefed up, he just had extensible claws.
There's a reason the only miniguns in US service are vehicle mounted; they are terrible personal weapons in all regards.
They just look good on TV.
 
3)Deep Lore.
Molly does not know what the Outer Gates are, she doesnt know that the Winter Court guards them.
She knows Outsiders are Bad. She doesnt know why.
"These guys are doing something bad, and it's called 'opening a way'" + occult 5 does make it possible, I think, to guess that this might have to do something with Outer Gates,

1)Lydia does not fully recharge until midnight. Its currently 5 pm. We have 7 hours to fill.
So frankly, there is no basis for subclassification into urgent questions and the rest; we arent going anywhere until our party members are up to snuff.
I changed my vote, but, in principle, if we got the answer of "he's going to a ritual site to do emergency demon army summoning" or something like this, then yes, ditching Lydia and pursuing together with dad would make sense.
Harry does not have email. And Burny's installed on a Nokia 3310.
I know a guy who read fantasy novel on a 3x7 symbol CD player screen. Nokia 3310 is perfectly capable of serving as a receiver of text messages. We could cypher it, I guess.
Not to mention that with Feds around, you want to minimize sending data electronically,
Phone tapping isn't magic, unless it's actually magic. Who does Mouse's phone belong to?
Michael literally just said things are in good hands.

The cultists are in police custody or fled. There is noone to Intimidate.
You dont seriously think we are about to carry 9x captured people to our hotel room in broad daylight, right?
Its 5pm. In summer. And our only vehicle is our Dad's truck. Even in a Chicago ghetto that would draw attention.
Ok, fair enough. I'll change that to using ICQ and social engineering to track remaining cultists.

[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi looking for fleeing cultists.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone. In cypher / whatever demonic language your cyberdevils speak.
--[X] Call Harry at 7 P.M.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.
 
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[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi looking for fleeing cultists.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, possibly infringing upon "Though shalt not Open the Outer Gates" law, and definitely with a lot of other Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone. In cypher / whatever demonic language your cyberdevils speak.
--[X] Call Harry at 7 P.M.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland
 
He wasnt beefed up, he just had extensible claws.
There's a reason the only miniguns in US service are vehicle mounted; they are terrible personal weapons in all regards.
They just look good on TV.
claws that did enough damage in one round that we could not soak it all, IIRC. That's… That's a whole lot for a vanilla mortal, correct?
Fair point on the minigun.
That said, even rifle rounds can go through a lot of things that one might normally expect to provide cover. Things like walls.
And while we can shrug off some fire, most of our companions are unlikely to have nearly as much durability unless we invest into getting them all good gear. This does lead me to want to start working on our crafting skills… Did Harry enchant his own coat, or did someone else do that for him?
Also, I would like to get the ability to heal ourself and (especially) others, preferably without caveats, during combat, ASAP.
Our Shintai provides a full heal, but AFAIK that's only something that we can activate once in a scene.
Is there a way to make it so that, if an attack would deal enough damage to kill us outright, our Shintai can reflexively be activated? If we get taken down/killed before we have the opportunity to activate our Shintai, that would be… unpleasant.
 
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"These guys are doing something bad, and it's called 'opening a way'" + occult 5 does make it possible, I think, to guess that this might have to do something with Outer Gates,
1)Evidently not.
The group calls themselves the Pathfinders, are described as "opens the ways" and it hasnt pinged for Molly.
Her Occult 5 is based on a universe where Reality did not have outer walls. There are subjects it wont proc for

2)Molly does not know what the Outer Gates are.
Dresden didnt know what the Outer Gates were until Cold Days, when Mother Summer personally took Winter Knight Dresden there.
This is Deep Lore in the Dresdenverse, because the Powers that Be dont want gawkers and opportunists there.

Arawn might know, but possibly not.
He wasnt deep Winter Court, and his duties largely faced inwards, towards Humanity, instead of outwards towards the Gates.
I changed my vote, but, in principle, if we got the answer of "he's going to a ritual site to do emergency demon army summoning" or something like this, then yes, ditching Lydia and pursuing together with dad would make sense.
Ditching Lydia on low juice in a city where we were explicitly told that the Reds were looking for an opportunity to split us up would be egregious malparactice.

I know a guy who read fantasy novel on a 3x7 symbol CD player screen. Nokia 3310 is perfectly capable of serving as a receiver of text messages. We could cypher it, I guest
Great for him. Most people cant.

I owned a 3310 for several years. Original spec with the green and black screen.
I assure you you dont want to attempt to read an extended message on it, assuming its even possible for one to receive that much data at once. Text messages were not encrypted in 2006.

Furthermore, Dresden is a Luddite.
Phone tapping isn't magic, unless it's actually magic. Who does Mouse's phone belong to?
This isnt some private individual trying to spy on a spouse or business partner.

Its the Feds post 2011, and the Daedalus Group has enough juice to shut down and classify a high profile mass murder investigation. They'll get a National Security Letter and record your line at the phone exchange, or use a stingray if they think they're dealing with a mobile device. Its very straightforward.

There's a reason I'm being very careful about dealing around them.
 
claws that did enough damage in one round that we could not soak it all, IIRC. That's… That's a whole lot for a vanilla mortal, correct?
Fair point on the minigun.

That said, even rifle rounds can go through a lot of things that one might normally expect to provide cover. Things like walls.
And while we can shrug off some fire, most of our companions are unlikely to have nearly as much durability unless we invest into getting them all good gear. This does lead me to want to start working on our crafting skills… Did Harry enchant his own coat, or did someone else do that for him?

Also, I would like to get the ability to heal ourself and (especially) others, preferably without caveats, during combat, ASAP.
Our Shintai provides a full heal, but AFAIK that's only something that we can activate once in a scene.
Is there a way to make it so that, if an attack would deal enough damage to kill us outright, our Shintai can reflexively be activated? If we get taken down/killed before we have the opportunity to activate our Shintai, that would be… unpleasant.
Or its just the weapon.
We only had 4 Soak(Stamina 3 + Ebon Scales 1); if we'd been with a Kevlar vest we would have Soak 6(Kevlar 3 + Stamina 3)
We just dont want the Dex penalty from heavier armor especially since we're learning Shih MA.

Michael has been wearing armor made by Charity. Lydia is wearing armor her father procured for her.
We arent likely to be able to better without magic crafting and Craft 5.
Dresden enchants his own stuff, and allegedly it requires ongoing maintenance.

Splintered Gale Shintai has a resurrection function. 5 dots.
Digesting the Great Beast is a healing charm in the Hell of Maggots. 4 dots
 
-[X] If possible, try to give Lydia some power before taking a bleach bath.
Just as a note, while a way for Exalts to transfer their essence to others exists, it's explicitly a Twilight Solar charm that allows them to do it, with Liminals able to buy a somewhat less effective version of the charm. We don't have that charm, and aren't even eligible to purchase it as an Infernal, so we can't use it.
 
I owned a 3310 for several years. Original spec with the green and black screen.
I assure you you dont want to attempt to read an extended message on it, assuming its even possible for one to receive that much data at once. Text messages were not encrypted in 2006.
I also owned it. It was very popular in Russia. I don't see an issue. Not to mention that, if nothing else, the cyberdevil can work as a text-to-speech device.
This isnt some private individual trying to spy on a spouse or business partner.

Its the Feds post 2011, and the Daedalus Group has enough juice to shut down and classify a high profile mass murder investigation. They'll get a National Security Letter and record your line at the phone exchange, or use a stingray if they think they're dealing with a mobile device. Its very straightforward.

There's a reason I'm being very careful about dealing around them.
Either use devils for connection (how does that work, anyway), or we could use one of the looted cultist phones. It's very unlikely that they are even aware of the existence of Mouse's phone.
1)Evidently not.
The group calls themselves the Pathfinders, are described as "opens the ways" and it hasnt pinged for Molly.
Her Occult 5 is based on a universe where Reality did not have outer walls. There are subjects it wont proc for

2)Molly does not know what the Outer Gates are.
Dresden didnt know what the Outer Gates were until Cold Days, when Mother Summer personally took Winter Knight Dresden there.
This is Deep Lore in the Dresdenverse, because the Powers that Be dont want gawkers and opportunists there.
Ok, in general, that's fair. Let's be paranoid a bit

[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists
-[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
-[X] Set Clippy and your other cyberdevils to tracking the cultists you identified.
--[X] Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
--[X] Have them check ICQ and other messengers and social pages of the cultists. Maybe you'll be able to track them that way.
-[X]Bleach soak to heal and regain power
-[X] Go after Dr. Niemi after both you and Lydia regain power.
--[X] Use the crown at that time to check where he fled to. Use the Soul's Rest site as a focus. The question is "where is Dr. Niemi fleeing to?"
--[X] Spend the time between you getting out of the bath and going hunting for Niemi looking for fleeing cultists.
-[X] Message Harry that there is a mess to clean up in Cleveland, definitely breaching a lot of the Laws. You, dad, and Lydia dealt with the immediate situation, but there are prisoners that need handling. Have Clippy compile and send a detailed report to Mouse's devilphone. In cypher / whatever demonic language your cyberdevils speak.
--[X] Call Harry at 7 P.M.
-[X] Stunt: "Ok! So, who's up for pizza? I am famished, and need good food and a nice bath before we go hunt down the local mastermind." You ask casually even as you are quickly typing on you phone, giving your virtual minions their marching orders. And looking for good pizza deliveries in Cleveland.

We arent likely to be able to better without magic crafting and Craft 5.
That's very arguable. We have intelligence + crafts = 7. With excellency that's 14. With stunt, that's 16. With WHWH it's 18. By spending time and having Cyberdevils have during design stage I am betting we can add at least 2 dice (Intelligence 2) or maybe two succeses. So, that's at least 20 dice to start. Basica difficulty is 7, if I recall correctly. CCC is -3, so 4. BSM is -1, so 3. That's 20 dice at difficulty 3. I am fairly confident in getting more than 10 successes. That should probably translate to better defence. That's without adding more craft points. Or using magical materials.

Oh, and if we take Transcendent Lord of Flies, it might apply to crafting protective gear for Michael and Lydia if we focus on environmental protection. That might well make us roll auto successes. At 20 autosuccesses, I feel we should be crafting fairly epic objects.
 
Dude even Dresden files God isn't simply just yhwh from what we've seen. Not sure why you're calling it delusions it's an urban fantasy setting. He's as much said Hindu stuff can be considered holy and of him and the fae call him the white god.
he is/was clearly trying to make him an abrahamic God. I'm not sure what he got.
 
Renaming plan for clarity:

VOTE
[X]Plan Foxhunt
-[X] See if you can track down the escaped cultists

--[X]Loot cultist cellphones before leaving Soul's Rest
--[X]Crown of Eyes: NotWolverine: What way do they open?: -1 Essence
--[X]Crown of Eyes: NotWolverine's Partner: What is Dr Niemi's current cellphone number: -1 Essence
--[X]Return to hotel; run check with cyberdevils in hotel network and in La Blanche's phone if anything of significance has happened
--[X]Let Michael and Lydia use the bathroom first.
--[X]Two hour bleach soak to regen 9/11 HLs and 4/12 Essence to full
--[X]Call Dresden at scheduled time. Use Burny, not his landline, to avoid Daedalus landline intercepts if they exist.
--[X]Wait for Lydia to refresh Essence at (sunset? midnight?) before setting out again.
--[X]Dr Niemi's cellphone: Using an online ID spoofer, have Clippy call number and attempt to sell him an extended warranty. Crown of Eyes location of owner of phone
--[X]Cyberdevils:
---[X]Police traffic camera network around Soul's Rest. Attempt to track destination of fleeing cultists, especially Niemi
---[X]Cultist phone history, with aim of finding out why they wanted the gossamer, and any safe houses to flee to
--[X]STUNT: A last look around the erstwhile chamber of horrors. "One minute".In moments you are going through their pockets, ignoring bulging billfolds and credit cards in favor of a small pile of cellphones. At your Dad's look, you explain as you stuff them in your pockets "Loose ends, Dad. Niemi was apparently scamming both Iku Turso and the poor people here. His people's phones might help us figure why." A hurried departure through empty passageways gets you out of there just ahead of a throng of firemen and EMTs, and you only have a brief meeting with Ruth Koskinen before slipping out the foyer and down the sidewalk.


RATIONALE
Finish your sidequests if you want bonus XP.

Crown of Eyes because Molly doesnt know that the Outer Gates exist IC. Dresden doesnt know they are a thing; he thinks they are metaphorical. Figuring out they are a thing actually allows her to follow up, and gives her some of the setting's deep lore.

Niemi's cellphone, if it exists, allows us to HMP the phone as a tracker.
Or just burn a Crown question for his location.
Just call about his car's extended warranty.

Niemi has been doing this shit for weeks at a minimum.
Where's the rest of the gossamer mined in that time? And why did he and his patrons want it?
That stuff is immensely valuable and potentially immensely dangerous.

Tool Constructs gives us the ability to establish a hardlink(phone cable) between phones, so it should be trivial for Clippy to hoover up internet histories, texts, and emails like he is actually on their phone. No hacking necessary.
And then crunch it for actually relevant info that isnt stuff like penis-enlarger ads.
 
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