Dungeon Crawler You!
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Yeah I wasn't sure if it would work.
I think the group running the crawl is on the hook for any ones that come out naturally.
Yeah I would have her tank nearer to the group instead of scout. Honestly a scout role is going to be very risky for anyone between ambushes and traps you would need a lot of skills to be able to pull it off safely. I would rather have her armored up and with regen and move as a group within Drew's Auras if possible. I also want him to copy Democratic Senator for more Auras.
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Drew is on there because we still need to pick the temporary class he gets from former child actor.
Also, if Taylor picks Dzichi could he manipulate his yo-yo to insane degrees with his hair?
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[player name]: @eaglejarl (he/him) For Calliope in both chapters Satori is listed as one of her suggested races but is not on the list, is that a hidden race that you were waiting for a discerning reader to discover and unlock to then reveal as a surprise?
@eaglejarl (he/him): No, it means that I was too hype to get this out and I *really* should have waited because obviously I did a crap job of editing and confirming everything. Satori is now listed properly.
[player name]: @eaglejarl (he/him) For Calliope in both chapters Satori is listed as one of her suggested races but is not on the list, is that a hidden race that you were waiting for a discerning reader to discover and unlock to then reveal as a surprise?
@eaglejarl (he/him): No, it means that I was too hype to get this out and I *really* should have waited because obviously I did a crap job of editing and confirming everything. Satori is now listed properly.
But what do they cost to make for the runners?
Not the same as what it costs to buy as a Sponsor, I'd bet.
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Nagas are still bankrupt from when paid out 18 while hosting.
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Something to bear in mind regarding Scion of Zree: It seems great if we can survive to metamorphosis, but comes with a massive unlabeled disadvantage: We're in the line of succession for the Zree throne. This means that we're automatically a target for anyone else in that succession, including people outside the dungeon. So, among other things, we'd have to deal with people buying up our sponsorships just to screw us over, and we'd be a massive target on floors 6 and 9 for the Hunters.
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That's what I thought but Levi seems to think it's more of an advantage, and maybe the Zree's are just too well adjusted to do faction wars.
Interesting that Taylor has Scion of Zree and his niece Leo doesn't. Maybe she just missed the 1000 year cutoff. Or maybe this is how she finds out she's adopted.
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The books confirm that making the AI give out a ton of Celestial boxes will bankrupt the organisers, but apparently not the owners themselves (the Syndicate). It happened to the nagas.
Also the ability to patch out stuff is limitede by their control over the AI, which is less than perfect. If the AI wants this class to exist then it does, and so on.
I do not endorse this proposed combo yet, I'm just sharing my newfound canon knowledge.
Also the ability to patch out stuff is limitede by their control over the AI, which is less than perfect. If the AI wants this class to exist then it does, and so on.
I do not endorse this proposed combo yet, I'm just sharing my newfound canon knowledge.
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Good point on getting an income generator with Cygnan.
Sysop let's Taylor give his loot boxes to Calliope, and take Drew's loot boxes to give to Calliope. That let's Calliope power-level the Roll-up skill.
Oh, right. I misread as them making deals as sponsor or such (divine floor shenanigans) that forced them to to buy those boxes. My Error.
Thanks @eaglejarl for this quest! It's great on its own, and it also made me read Dungeon Crawler Carl and all the fanfics you mentioned. I particularly enjoy the race and class options you came up with: they're very varied, yet each one is interesting and flavorful. Some of them are particularly original and/or funny, but they still feel about in line with what the dungeon might offer.
Question for Levi: when we entered the dungeon, Moose batted at the air as if he were getting the same notifications as us. Is it likely that he has been getting loot boxes but is unable to open them? Will he be able to open them when he gains +1 int at level 30? Will he be able to speak, for that matter? Would the Sysop be able to transfer Moose's boxes to someone else?
OOC: Donut was able to open the boxes she got from entering the dungeon after she ate the pet biscuit. Moose would presumably have a platinum box from being one of the first ten crawlers to enter, a legendary box from being the first dog, and many others. I don't like the idea of robbing Moose of all his hard-earned boxes, but if he can't open them himself for a while...
Another question for Levi: how would the Character Actor skill interact with the Medical Student debt?
My opinion on the Wheeler Dealer class: of course it starts off very weak. I think it starts being decent compared with other classes when you have generated several gold boxes, maybe one or two platinum. It becomes strong when you regularly make platinum and sometimes a legendary, and it keeps scaling from there. On its own, the class was called broken by Levi, but it's a long-term investment. The obvious combo with Sysop lets it both level and make value much quicker. I do think it's very powerful, and I don't feel like it takes two class slots because Sysop does a lot of other cool things.
I am a bit worried in the context of a quest: Calliope the box opener does not sound as nice as a flashy combat class, and negotiating with other crawlers to let her open their boxes may become tedious. But I guess Eaglejarl putting this class on the list means that he's not too worried about it. At least Calliope already has a disctinct combat style, and the first point can be further counteracted by getting flashy combat items from the boxes. On the second point: since the AI is clearly responsible for putting the Sysop on the list, and Levi suspects that it also proposed the Wheeler Dealer class, I would expect it to encourage us to use the combo to level Rollup faster and start ruining the showrunners. So I would expect to generally open some nice and appropriate items to trade back to people who let us open their boxes, so that they're encouraged to keep dealing with us and feeding us Rollup xp (even if from time to time, the AI may have fun giving us either garbage or good things that are useless to the crawlers we're supposed to pay back).
Question for Levi: when we entered the dungeon, Moose batted at the air as if he were getting the same notifications as us. Is it likely that he has been getting loot boxes but is unable to open them? Will he be able to open them when he gains +1 int at level 30? Will he be able to speak, for that matter? Would the Sysop be able to transfer Moose's boxes to someone else?
OOC: Donut was able to open the boxes she got from entering the dungeon after she ate the pet biscuit. Moose would presumably have a platinum box from being one of the first ten crawlers to enter, a legendary box from being the first dog, and many others. I don't like the idea of robbing Moose of all his hard-earned boxes, but if he can't open them himself for a while...
Another question for Levi: how would the Character Actor skill interact with the Medical Student debt?
My opinion on the Wheeler Dealer class: of course it starts off very weak. I think it starts being decent compared with other classes when you have generated several gold boxes, maybe one or two platinum. It becomes strong when you regularly make platinum and sometimes a legendary, and it keeps scaling from there. On its own, the class was called broken by Levi, but it's a long-term investment. The obvious combo with Sysop lets it both level and make value much quicker. I do think it's very powerful, and I don't feel like it takes two class slots because Sysop does a lot of other cool things.
I am a bit worried in the context of a quest: Calliope the box opener does not sound as nice as a flashy combat class, and negotiating with other crawlers to let her open their boxes may become tedious. But I guess Eaglejarl putting this class on the list means that he's not too worried about it. At least Calliope already has a disctinct combat style, and the first point can be further counteracted by getting flashy combat items from the boxes. On the second point: since the AI is clearly responsible for putting the Sysop on the list, and Levi suspects that it also proposed the Wheeler Dealer class, I would expect it to encourage us to use the combo to level Rollup faster and start ruining the showrunners. So I would expect to generally open some nice and appropriate items to trade back to people who let us open their boxes, so that they're encouraged to keep dealing with us and feeding us Rollup xp (even if from time to time, the AI may have fun giving us either garbage or good things that are useless to the crawlers we're supposed to pay back).
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I'll read everyone's comments later, but I just wanted to say that I'd love Wheeler Dealer, but it's kind of hard to get excited about compared to the known synergies. Well besides the fact that what loot we'll get from a celestial box would probably be BETTER than normal thanks to Drew.
So a lot of proposed builds, but no one is really consolidating towards anything.. The clear favourites are it seems Sysop and Wheeler in various combinations. So why don't we vote Leo and Taylor separately? It doesn't seem any of the builds in particular have anti-synergy with each other.
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@eaglejarl, would you be okay with this? In your listed examples, you combined all 3 party members under the umbrella of a single vote, so I just wanted to check in and see what would be the least-costly in terms of QM spoons.
[X] The murder train has no brakes.
-[X] Calliope: Catkin
--[X] Calliope: Bike Messenger
-[X] Taylor: Dryad
--[X] Pyrotechnics Engineer
Essentially my plan is to make better what we're already good at.
Edited: second plan
Look at my edits and despair:
[] Plan: Wheeling, Dealing, System Screwing Multacorpalan
-[] Leo
--[] Race (L): Doppelganger
--[] Class: Wheeler Dealer
-[] Taylor
--[] Race (T): Multacorpalan
--[] Class: Sysops
[X] Plan Catkin Leo
-[X] Leo: Catkin Wheeler Dealer
-[X] Taylor: Multicorpalan Sysop
-[X] Calliope: Catkin
--[X] Calliope: Bike Messenger
-[X] Taylor: Dryad
--[X] Pyrotechnics Engineer
Essentially my plan is to make better what we're already good at.
Edited: second plan
Look at my edits and despair:
[] Plan: Wheeling, Dealing, System Screwing Multacorpalan
-[] Leo
--[] Race (L): Doppelganger
--[] Class: Wheeler Dealer
-[] Taylor
--[] Race (T): Multacorpalan
--[] Class: Sysops
[X] Plan Catkin Leo
-[X] Leo: Catkin Wheeler Dealer
-[X] Taylor: Multicorpalan Sysop
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Havent voted yet as i'm waiting for answers from Eagle.
Maybe others feel like that as well.
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All of these questions are now answers in chapter 24.4.
Can you expand on this? I'm not sure what you're looking for.
Just a reminder, but you can also vote for which class you want Drew to copy for this floor.
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I'm precommitting [some of] my votes to variations of "Wheeler Dealer" and "Sysop" classes. I'm a bit more open on the subject of races, but if you want my vote, Leo and Taylor will have to have one or the other (preferably "Leo" and "Taylor," respectively).
Note: If you make a good argument, you may earn my vote with another synergetic build, but you will be far more likely to earn my vote if you do some variation of this.
Note: If you make a good argument, you may earn my vote with another synergetic build, but you will be far more likely to earn my vote if you do some variation of this.
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I have no problem if people want to vote things separately.
A suggestion: It might be a good idea to not vote anything for 24 hours and stick purely to discussion. There's a lot of options here, and if something gets early momentum it might be hard to overcome even after a better option is found.
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Well we could have Drew use Character Actor to copy Wizard Supremacist and if we get lucky and hit the +20 Int, use Sysops to copy that onto Moose and turn him into a dog genius.
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I'm down to try that! Talking Doggo is a go!
[] (Drew) Magical Boy
- Emulated Class: Wizard Supremacist
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How much of what you want from Combat Medic is learnable by Drew (the 'level Up to keep' thing)?
For First Sysadmin Copy I'd strongly prefer the class gaining from Former Child Actor.
Also, will prepare a plan for Leo/Tay soon.