[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.
 
OOC, there's been a trend of heroes and villains often having swapped or reinterpreted roles: a heroic Crimson Cowl and Doc Ock, asshole-Iron Man, alt-right Thor...it's not 100%, but I wouldn't rely on meta-knowledge of Killmonger being a bad guy.
I mean, I'm not unaware of this villain-swap routine (though "asshole Tony Stark" is just Tony Stark tbh) but it's less about Killmonger being a villain than it is that the guy has a tendency to cause problems for people ostensibly allied to him.
 
Huh, good point.

I'm suddenly reminded of the character Zaeed from Mass Effect 2, a grizzled old mercenary who tells you a long list of war stories in which the recurring theme is that things went horribly wrong, the team he was a part of got shot to ribbons, but he survived by the skin of his teeth.

And then you have the option to put him in charge of a squad handling a special important mission at the end of the game.

Which, I am told, tends to result in everyone dying except him and the mission failing somehow. :p

Honestly, Arachne has enough trouble assimilating her steadily increasing stockpile of nonhuman personalities running on her headspace and trying to occasionally find time for her hobby of superheroics; I'm not sure I even want to get into this.
 
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I mean, I'm not unaware of this villain-swap routine (though "asshole Tony Stark" is just Tony Stark tbh) but it's less about Killmonger being a villain than it is that the guy has a tendency to cause problems for people ostensibly allied to him.
In a sense it is, but it's also Tony Stark without a token change of heart and viewed through a lens more critical of the military-industrial complex.

In the same vein, I'm not betting on the reclusive absolute monarchy to be the good guys.

No clue about that tendency of killmonger's, is that a thing with him?
 
In a sense it is, but it's also Tony Stark without a token change of heart and viewed through a lens more critical of the military-industrial complex.

In the same vein, I'm not betting on the reclusive absolute monarchy to be the good guys.
They're in a complicated position. Their social system ain't exactly enlightened, but they're also aware that basically everyone like them who didn't have the advantage of hilarious bullshit-tier technology has spent the last several hundred years being completely fucked over by Whitey.

So they're understandably... tetchy... for very respectable reasons about Whitey getting ahold of their bullshit-tier technology.
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.
 
Why is Killmonger a wakanda geek?
I mean I guess he might have been normally but...

Can we think of a way to actually give Erik the information to know whats going on.
"Hey, I'm investigating a pretty serious crime, traffic light violations. Also an angry Wakandan ninja is threatening the secret service right now according to my sources. Wanna join those dots for me?"
 
Let's take a look. It's more fun and maybe let's us establish some more about what Wakanda is like and who Erik is. We shouldn't rely on OOC knowledge of who is good cos that's less fun and also unreliable.

[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

I'm voting for this option mostly because I want time to think. I want Erik's side of the story, and he probably won't talk if we just steal his most precious possession.

Also, it sounds like T'challah is in town, and I'd like to talk to him too.

Hell, maybe, if we're /very/ lucky, we can negotiate a trade. Erik gives up the ring in exchange for a trip to Wakanda.
 
[X] Let's not fuck around. Snatch it and hand it over. You don't want to get involved in laser regicide.

This way will probably see T'Challa catch us in the act of grabbing it and leads to more drama, so I'm absolutely voting for it.


As for Erik, he's likely just going to be a politically conscious black man living in America...

So he'll be furious, as James Baldwin said back in 1961.
 
They're in a complicated position. Their social system ain't exactly enlightened, but they're also aware that basically everyone like them who didn't have the advantage of hilarious bullshit-tier technology has spent the last several hundred years being completely fucked over by Whitey.

So they're understandably... tetchy... for very respectable reasons about Whitey getting ahold of their bullshit-tier technology.

Well yeah. On the other hand, isn't Killmonger's these "why the fuck didn't you use the bullshit-tier technology to help the rest of us". What's the point of having it if you don't help with it and all that.

Canon him is an utter asshole about it but I wouldn't bet about it being a constant.

I'm not sure us stealing the ring to hide/study it is the best way to approach that shit, either. It seems like a good way to make an enemy of both sides.

[X] You getting involved could make this your problem in a way you really, really didn't want it to. Just tell Justine to warn Erik that he's in trouble and to put the ring back in the box!
 
I want to get involved, this sounds like a fun plotline. Kinda wish we could talk to Erik immediately, but I get Justine wanting to keep her association with us secret. There's no way the "don't get involved" plan actually works.

Also, I suspect Erik isn't even named Killmonger here given that he's friends with Justine.


[X] You getting involved could make this your problem in a way you really, really didn't want it to. Just tell Justine to warn Erik that he's in trouble and to put the ring back in the box!
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

Let's face facts: Olivia is, to borrow Torchship parlance, a professional nosepoker. So let's poke our nose in.
 
Well yeah. On the other hand, isn't Killmonger's these "why the fuck didn't you use the bullshit-tier technology to help the rest of us". What's the point of having it if you don't help with it and all that.
Well yeah, but his characterization can be anywhere from that to "some people just want to watch the world burn," so who knows.
 
So our options are
- "burn someone we don't know". Plus to SSR, Plus to Wakanda, minus to Justine and Erik.
- "greedy nerdy getting involved without solving" plus to nerd cravings and plus to Justine and Erik, minus to SSR and Wakanda when they eventually find out because secret rings have a way of getting found even if you don't have an entire fellowship in your head.
- "I don't wanna get involved" - plus to our calm, minus to literally everybody.

So all our options are some level of disaster but I also don't have a good write in option.

But if I had a choice of disaster

[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

Learn more buy time.
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

More for Justine than Erik, really. We can try and suss out his deal a little more as we're doing this maybe?
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

As Cave Johnson said, Science is not about why, but why not?
 
[X] Let's not fuck around. Snatch it and hand it over. You don't want to get involved in laser regicide.

OOC, there's been a trend of heroes and villains often having swapped or reinterpreted roles: a heroic Crimson Cowl and Doc Ock, asshole-Iron Man, alt-right Thor...it's not 100%, but I wouldn't rely on meta-knowledge of Killmonger being a bad guy.
To be fair, Stark's always been kinda a dick.

As for metaknowledge, not my concern. My concern is Wakanda has a habit of laser poisoning people. And this si something big enough the Panther is showing up for. Let's not take any chances.

Also She-Hulk trailer dropped!


View: https://youtu.be/gim2kprjL50
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

Loot! Science!
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.

Shiny thing?
Shiny thing!

Also it being called the Ring of the Pretender and Wakanda not being able to get a good fix on it implies to me that it is directly tied up with the Wakandan royal family. Possibly even at one point part of their regalia, until a pretender to the throne got his hands on it.
 
[X] Build a faraday cage and hide the ring. Whatever technology is inside, it must be incredible. Once you've taken a quick look, you can work out what to do with it.
 
[X] Let's not fuck around. Snatch it and hand it over. You don't want to get involved in laser regicide.

Consider; if there's Wakandan Internal Politics (subtype; knives) going on right now, handing it over should at least mean we're not up against both sides of it at once. Hide the shiny, and we're likely to be right at the top of everybody's shit list.
 
[X] Let's not fuck around. Snatch it and hand it over. You don't want to get involved in laser regicide.

Consider; if there's Wakandan Internal Politics (subtype; knives) going on right now, handing it over should at least mean we're not up against both sides of it at once. Hide the shiny, and we're likely to be right at the top of everybody's shit list.
Consider; we saw a blob of alien goo and we deliberately touched it ourselves, forgoing any sort of tool apparatus, containment, or other sensible options.

We're a Spider-Person. This means we have terrible instincts.
 
[X] Let's not fuck around. Snatch it and hand it over. You don't want to get involved in laser regicide.
I am anti-being-killed-with-lazers.
 
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