Quick, so Pawn and Nictis are very clear NK targets as both are very strong, well-known players. Shalmoa was a solid neutral kill, being TR pretty widely (with Pawn as the notable exception.) Zaea, however, is a newer player who wasn't likely seen as a core threat to scum, and who was being fairly widely scumread. We've been back and forth over the NK there a few times, but we know 7 players aren't scum now. Based on this, and the Zaea kill as a bit of a standout among the night-kills, who do people think would have really stood to gain cover from murdering Zaea instead of a more prominent/townread player?
Building this out, the Zaea kill happened N2, after Nictis, -Rosen and Happerry were dead, so the players besides Zae were:
- @Cyricubed
- @mesonoxian
- @Yun Bob the Trouser Mimic, [Exiled to the Dungeon] d3.
- @Shalmoa Cynthia the Mimic Mimic, [Murdered in the Night] n3.
- @OriginalName replaced by @InterstellarHobo d2.
- @QTesseract
- @Shadell
- @Scia
Meso's been scumread all game, making them an unlikely NK target (and thus have little need to randomize a kill to hit whoever), Yun, Shalmoa and Ori are all confirmed town (and thus not responsible). QT was inactive, so also not a high NK priority likely. IH had just subbed in, and would probably be extended some leniency.
So, that really leaves me, Scia and Cyri as players I'd expect to have been hit before Zaea. Of these, my read of the situation is that Cyri and I have more experience, were more actively townread at that time and would also have been seen as a bigger threat.
As I know I'm town, I think the Zaea kill actually is fairly incriminating for Cyricubed, as Cyri's the only remaining unknown who stood to gain if scum at this point.
So, what else has Cyri done that's scummy?
D4 was the shortest/easiest day to examine.
This is a solid post, but most of Cyri's other D4 posts are throwing near random questions at people and doing nothing with the feedback. It's possible Cyri was lost as I was, but I also don't like that these are very theoryless posts. OTOH, the thread was dead. Overall, I think I could see scum-Cyri doing
D3 again had a lot of fairly low effort questioning of others that doesn't really feel like it builds to much. Cyri jumps on the Yun wagon early (though everyone kinda did) and I get the impression of either scum trying to look proactive or town casting around for a theory. Very consistent with D4, but not clearing. Pawn's entry into the thread brought a lot more structure to the Day and really helped clean things up, and I think
this post from Pyrros is interesting, but more on that
D2 is probably the towniest Day. Cyri spends a lot of time responding to Yun, who gets progressively more defensive and tunnels on Cyri in response. Cyri's also got early consistent scumreads on both Meso and Yun that endure. OTOH, Cyri admits to backing off a scumread to vote on Happerry in a way that I don't really like in retrospect, and also a lot of this seems more like a scummy-looking Yun accidentally hand
D1 is interesting. As of
148 I was suspecting Cyri.
here Cyri kinda talked up a big idea earlyish in the Day, but then dropped it for no reasons. That, again matches the idea of a scum player trying to look towny by doing towny plans and not relaly working out the internal core of genuine town logic, in contrast to genuine town doing towny things by virtue of following an internal town process.
328 has some posts that I think aren't great either and reads like some massive hedging combined with a vote against Cyri's own reads. EoD is something a lot of people cleared Cyri for, with an early swap onto the Happerry wagon that Cyri... didn't really justify. It felt cleaner than the late joiners, but it's not as good as I thought at the time.
Overall then, Cyri feels... okay, which is something that feels off at this point. They've had a few persistent scumreads (Meso, Yun) but spent a huge proportion of their time doing stuff that feels more like activity to look active rather than activity to be active, and I haven't felt strong pushes from them to really act on those reads, rather than throwing them out and being willing to hop off when others have joined the read. Add in that Cyri's the only real player I think had motive to NK Zaea and I think there's a fair case for Cyriscum to be made here.
If so,
Pyrros stands out as a possible teammate due mostly to the quoted post where a lot of very vague, waffly reads are paired with a very concrete statement on Cyri that sets off alarm bells.
OTOH, I could see Meso as a partner as well, with the read on Meso being a dedicated strategy of distancing.
Not voting yet, because I want responses to this, and I want to build similar profiles on IH and Meso.
Okay meme joke over I think Pawn was killed for two reasons: 1- To attempt to make conversation be monofocused on the veterans today, and 2- To make people more certain of their reads, or specifically their town reads. Now I did Iso's on both Slots and the players in the slots. The constant read I was getting strangly TMI posts from IH along with constant move against the lynch flow feeling. I can put up points later when I re-find the quotes but yet. Sunday so I can't be super active but I am here ish.
