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Uttermost doesn't penalize Intelligence!
That... would be dumb.
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- Thread starter Rihaku
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Uttermost doesn't penalize Intelligence!
That... would be dumb.
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If you've been to the Philippines, you'd also wonder that same thing
And because I support consistent negaverse stuff:
[RB] Age of War
[RB] Cultivation
[RB] Legacy
[RB] Scion
@runeblue360
[Xal] True Majesty: Sun Laid Bare
[Xal] Only What Is Obvious
[Xal] Body of Titans
[Xal] 14 Years Of Age
[Xal] Information
@Xalvitor
Apologies my bois for the late voting.
And because I support consistent negaverse stuff:
[RB] Age of War
[RB] Cultivation
[RB] Legacy
[RB] Scion
@runeblue360
[Xal] True Majesty: Sun Laid Bare
[Xal] Only What Is Obvious
[Xal] Body of Titans
[Xal] 14 Years Of Age
[Xal] Information
@Xalvitor
Apologies my bois for the late voting.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
My mistake then. Let's retool the math for intelligence.
4(Baseline Intelligence)+5(All Defeating Stance) = 9, multiply that 9 by 1.3 for baseline Edeldross enhancement and you get 11.7, or 13.05 when we're under advanced Edeldross enhancement.
Edit: for more context I think we're at 5.2 baseline intelligence with basic edeldross enhancement up(4*1.3), and 5.8 with advanced enhancement active(4*1.45)
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The EFB of discord (I am not calling it 'Wind full of knives') reaction 1330 words.
After deciding to become a blood eugenics expert, Hunger thought to himself – recruiting child soldiers seems the next logical step. Of course he prided himself on his extremely inclusive attitude towards mercenaries – if you are useful you can come with us.
Of course the real reason is that he wants to spoil Letrizia a bit. The poor girl was a Duchess but when she is in the presence of a Hero and a High Sorceress, she feels inadequate. I think the thread participants kind of forget about this aspect of Letrizia`s character as well. Still, how much tactics do you need to know when you command a Rank 10 Armament? Just point it at the general direction of enemies and start shooting or throwing fists.
Aeira: Why are you crying Lord Hunger?
Hunger: Finally someone that is financially responsible? You would not believe what I have to deal with. I fight Rotspawns to the death and then I fight some more. All so I can get some money that the girls here don`t appreciate at all.
Aeira: I d-don't think I want to come with you actually.
Hunger: Too late little girl. Welcome aboard. Don`t let Letrizia dock you pay and don`t play poker with Gisena.
Joke aside, it is finally nice to see somebody that is actually professional and takes things seriously and is not a nihilistic and suicidal woman or a naïve Duchess that watches too much anime. She has a plan, understands that she is a mercenary and don`t need escort back to the spa resort. What is there not to like?
Still don`t you find it weird that an assassin themed girl suddenly befriended Letrizia and convinced her to come along on their journey. She even wants to bunk with Letrizia. So either the genre turned from military seinen to something …more associated with lilies. Or Aeira is an assassin send to kill Letrizia and her bodyguards. Without a pilot, the mech is almost powerless and can be left alone in the Voyaging realm to be picked up by Astral beasts. I don`t trust those spa resort guys. I am waiting for the reveal that the Rotbeast is actually part of the Voyaging Realm cleanup crew send to destroy those that profane it.
Hunger likes efficiency and preparation. I am surprise the poor girl did not run away from them when she saw this unnatural face movement on Hunger`s face that he calls a smile.
"Are you having a stroke Lord Hunger?"
"No, I am smiling. I just forgot how to do it."
Anime clichés are becoming more powerful, the more we stay in this spa resort. The dutiful mercenary taking care of her undisciplined superiors. The only help is a gruff and grumpy bodyguard but in time they find out, that they like training and being financially responsible.
Coming soon in "The corrupting influence of the High Sorceress was surprisingly negated by the grumpy bodyguard ~ A cheating assassin with shadow element post rebirth log ~" - an extremely original Isekai anime (I almost gagged here).
Hunger does not care that his ring negates training benefits, this is an excuse. But our scam artist hero is not done with the young girl. After small deliberation he thought that after blood eugenics and hiring child soldiers, beating up a girl that works for you is just one step away, all in the name of betting of course. Go big or go home.
Unfortunately he overplayed his hand and showed off against the other elementalist just a bit too much and Aeira is rightfully scared.
See, I told you that those assholes were up to no good. The girl wants to help her family and that is a pressure point that the others can exploit. What if the council contacts her and promise her that all her family debt will be paid. I am telling you people, this is a sidequest. I can smell the scene where Aeira tearfully confess everything.
The assassin even has a mission control in the spa resort. The communication element is bound by emotional association, so a relative perhaps. They have to trust each other mutually – perhaps her mother or father. The metal gear vibes are getting stronger and stronger and Lord Hunger can pass of as Old Snake, a hero that lost his youth.
Teenaged girl assassin with a wooden katana and fingerless gloves that dresses all in black. Letrizia`s never stood a chance. That is like S grade anime bait. Aeira also tries to whole demure and timid dutiful mercenary routine. I am on to you girlie. I will warn the thread about the danger that we have brought to ourselves.
Jerk with a heart of gold and lilies. Accretion vs Anime, two degenerate magic system enter, only one 'A' leave.
Okay I have to call time out here. We have a mech and we are larping as a stealth character. What. The. FUCK! When you have a giant mech there is no need to use stealth. No one will notice, if there is nobody to notice you after all. Kill everything and gracefully exit the ghost town they call a level.
I am pretty sure she used in school to tune out everybody while listening to Evanescence or Linkin Park. I don`t know what kids are listening to nowadays but back in my day this was the edgy choice.
A timid and withdrawn girl cannot talk to a supernaturally beautiful older Onee sama. I am shocked! The other options are a Duchess and an intimidating and very hardcore bodyguard. I give Aeira three days before she confesses everything.
"Oh poor me, I am so beautiful it is a curse" Gisena complaining while the actual Cursebearer is standing beside her is hilarious image.
Beautiful people must stick together, we don`t want to be part of the plebeian class. The poor schmucks probably have to *gasp* pay for stuff instead of cruising life on easy mode.
Considering how the thread has been going, I expect people to start thinking that Apocryphal curse will be defeated by 'muh social'
Stop slacking and actually become High Sorceress Gisena, sheesh. You have been here for one month and only managed to get one Defining advancement.
*Gisena pokes Hunger* : Hun, I can`t sleep.
Hunger: Don`t worry, I can. Good night
Gisena: Surprised Pikachu Face
I think that this is Rihaku saying that his misuse of the thread hypothalamus is at an end. Soon the Temple will be over.
Do you smell that? It smells like synergy in here. Imagine what we could do with this. We can solo the Temple. We can finally be done with the place – and have actual vacation IRL and not a mad dash towards slivers of power in order to survive the next challenge.
Stats gang, where are you – this gives +10 Might and +10 Agility (+5 from Cut Through willpower bonus)
Mage gang where are you – this gives +5 Intelligence and +3.5 Wisdom.
We have an automatic defense which scales with our power which scales off our Might. I-Is this the fabled synergy build as foretold in the beginning. Holy shit!
We are so strong that people actually know that when they are outclassed and will have penalties when they try to scheme against us. This will help tremendously in the actual conquest of the Human Sphere. 5x power of Ruin against everything is insane.
We get Curse Mitigation as well. Almost like this is the best option. As usual of course, we would probably choose the waifu option because fuck synergy.
Everything was said in the previous reaction so I don`t think I want to repeat myself.
28 Arete and not spending it on Hunger. Hard pass unless somebody uses the forbidden arts spell – P2W and get two 900 bucks tier patreon pledges that grant 20 Arete each.
After deciding to become a blood eugenics expert, Hunger thought to himself – recruiting child soldiers seems the next logical step. Of course he prided himself on his extremely inclusive attitude towards mercenaries – if you are useful you can come with us.
Of course the real reason is that he wants to spoil Letrizia a bit. The poor girl was a Duchess but when she is in the presence of a Hero and a High Sorceress, she feels inadequate. I think the thread participants kind of forget about this aspect of Letrizia`s character as well. Still, how much tactics do you need to know when you command a Rank 10 Armament? Just point it at the general direction of enemies and start shooting or throwing fists.
Aeira: Why are you crying Lord Hunger?
Hunger: Finally someone that is financially responsible? You would not believe what I have to deal with. I fight Rotspawns to the death and then I fight some more. All so I can get some money that the girls here don`t appreciate at all.
Aeira: I d-don't think I want to come with you actually.
Hunger: Too late little girl. Welcome aboard. Don`t let Letrizia dock you pay and don`t play poker with Gisena.
Joke aside, it is finally nice to see somebody that is actually professional and takes things seriously and is not a nihilistic and suicidal woman or a naïve Duchess that watches too much anime. She has a plan, understands that she is a mercenary and don`t need escort back to the spa resort. What is there not to like?
Still don`t you find it weird that an assassin themed girl suddenly befriended Letrizia and convinced her to come along on their journey. She even wants to bunk with Letrizia. So either the genre turned from military seinen to something …more associated with lilies. Or Aeira is an assassin send to kill Letrizia and her bodyguards. Without a pilot, the mech is almost powerless and can be left alone in the Voyaging realm to be picked up by Astral beasts. I don`t trust those spa resort guys. I am waiting for the reveal that the Rotbeast is actually part of the Voyaging Realm cleanup crew send to destroy those that profane it.
Hunger likes efficiency and preparation. I am surprise the poor girl did not run away from them when she saw this unnatural face movement on Hunger`s face that he calls a smile.
"Are you having a stroke Lord Hunger?"
"No, I am smiling. I just forgot how to do it."
Anime clichés are becoming more powerful, the more we stay in this spa resort. The dutiful mercenary taking care of her undisciplined superiors. The only help is a gruff and grumpy bodyguard but in time they find out, that they like training and being financially responsible.
Coming soon in "The corrupting influence of the High Sorceress was surprisingly negated by the grumpy bodyguard ~ A cheating assassin with shadow element post rebirth log ~" - an extremely original Isekai anime (I almost gagged here).
Hunger does not care that his ring negates training benefits, this is an excuse. But our scam artist hero is not done with the young girl. After small deliberation he thought that after blood eugenics and hiring child soldiers, beating up a girl that works for you is just one step away, all in the name of betting of course. Go big or go home.
Unfortunately he overplayed his hand and showed off against the other elementalist just a bit too much and Aeira is rightfully scared.
See, I told you that those assholes were up to no good. The girl wants to help her family and that is a pressure point that the others can exploit. What if the council contacts her and promise her that all her family debt will be paid. I am telling you people, this is a sidequest. I can smell the scene where Aeira tearfully confess everything.
The assassin even has a mission control in the spa resort. The communication element is bound by emotional association, so a relative perhaps. They have to trust each other mutually – perhaps her mother or father. The metal gear vibes are getting stronger and stronger and Lord Hunger can pass of as Old Snake, a hero that lost his youth.
Teenaged girl assassin with a wooden katana and fingerless gloves that dresses all in black. Letrizia`s never stood a chance. That is like S grade anime bait. Aeira also tries to whole demure and timid dutiful mercenary routine. I am on to you girlie. I will warn the thread about the danger that we have brought to ourselves.
Jerk with a heart of gold and lilies. Accretion vs Anime, two degenerate magic system enter, only one 'A' leave.
Okay I have to call time out here. We have a mech and we are larping as a stealth character. What. The. FUCK! When you have a giant mech there is no need to use stealth. No one will notice, if there is nobody to notice you after all. Kill everything and gracefully exit the ghost town they call a level.
I am pretty sure she used in school to tune out everybody while listening to Evanescence or Linkin Park. I don`t know what kids are listening to nowadays but back in my day this was the edgy choice.
A timid and withdrawn girl cannot talk to a supernaturally beautiful older Onee sama. I am shocked! The other options are a Duchess and an intimidating and very hardcore bodyguard. I give Aeira three days before she confesses everything.
"Oh poor me, I am so beautiful it is a curse" Gisena complaining while the actual Cursebearer is standing beside her is hilarious image.
Beautiful people must stick together, we don`t want to be part of the plebeian class. The poor schmucks probably have to *gasp* pay for stuff instead of cruising life on easy mode.
Considering how the thread has been going, I expect people to start thinking that Apocryphal curse will be defeated by 'muh social'
Stop slacking and actually become High Sorceress Gisena, sheesh. You have been here for one month and only managed to get one Defining advancement.
*Gisena pokes Hunger* : Hun, I can`t sleep.
Hunger: Don`t worry, I can. Good night
Gisena: Surprised Pikachu Face
I think that this is Rihaku saying that his misuse of the thread hypothalamus is at an end. Soon the Temple will be over.
Do you smell that? It smells like synergy in here. Imagine what we could do with this. We can solo the Temple. We can finally be done with the place – and have actual vacation IRL and not a mad dash towards slivers of power in order to survive the next challenge.
Stats gang, where are you – this gives +10 Might and +10 Agility (+5 from Cut Through willpower bonus)
Mage gang where are you – this gives +5 Intelligence and +3.5 Wisdom.
We have an automatic defense which scales with our power which scales off our Might. I-Is this the fabled synergy build as foretold in the beginning. Holy shit!
We are so strong that people actually know that when they are outclassed and will have penalties when they try to scheme against us. This will help tremendously in the actual conquest of the Human Sphere. 5x power of Ruin against everything is insane.
We get Curse Mitigation as well. Almost like this is the best option. As usual of course, we would probably choose the waifu option because fuck synergy.
Everything was said in the previous reaction so I don`t think I want to repeat myself.
28 Arete and not spending it on Hunger. Hard pass unless somebody uses the forbidden arts spell – P2W and get two 900 bucks tier patreon pledges that grant 20 Arete each.
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
I can't seem to decide on this vote. Any one of the options could lead towards mage builds or away from them in the future. I'm disfavoring ADS a little because of that muscle wizard comment, but not enough to put it significantly behind the others. For once in this quest, I can't figure out what I should argue for.
As such, we'll do it this way: I'm selling my vote for this update. If anyone's interested, make me an offer, I'll take the best offer that's on the table in about two hours or so. Assuming I get any, I'm not sure what I'll do if I don't. Dice roll maybe.
As such, we'll do it this way: I'm selling my vote for this update. If anyone's interested, make me an offer, I'll take the best offer that's on the table in about two hours or so. Assuming I get any, I'm not sure what I'll do if I don't. Dice roll maybe.
Do you smell that? It smells like synergy in here. Imagine what we could do with this. We can solo the Temple. We can finally be done with the place – and have actual vacation IRL and not a mad dash towards slivers of power in order to survive the next challenge.
Stats gang, where are you – this gives +10 Might and +10 Agility (+5 from Cut Through willpower bonus)
Mage gang where are you – this gives +5 Intelligence and +3.5 Wisdom.
We have an automatic defense which scales with our power which scales off our Might. I-Is this the fabled synergy build as foretold in the beginning. Holy shit!
We are so strong that people actually know when they are outclassed and will have penalties when they try to scheme against us. This will help tremendously in the actual conquest of the Human Sphere. 5x power of Ruin against everything is insane.
We get Curse Mitigation as well. Almost like this is the best option. As usual of course, we would probably choose the waifu option because fuck synergy.
It's not quite as good as that since a straight percentage boost doesn't match the compounding effect actual stats give. We're probably still low enough in numbers that the difference is pretty small though.
- Location
- Brazil
Good old Summer, skill made manifest. Far more dangerous in a direct confrontation than Spring, but Spring has her own strenghts, since this Nameless lost horribly...
Salty nameless. Should have gone for Throne of stars, you fool!
{X} Legacy (1 orb)
{X} Archival Magic -
{X} Inheritor (3 orbs) -
{X} Citizen (1 orb) -
{X} An Age of War -
{X} Fatal Flaw -
{X} Waterproof -
Citizen provides immediate safety, while Inhertor+Legacy feels like it would have immense sinergy. With this, we can likely relatively quickly escale into relevance, and Waterproof means that it's more likely that we can identify Summer. He isn't know to be exactly...subtle. Biggest risk is summer being able to outscale us, but Inhertor+legacy gives immense long-term potential.
Also, voting for a month old negaverse. lol.
I am of course aware of this. I am saying that flare incentivizes the purchase of these options, that they are synergetic with flare and quite good in their own right for the purposes of working within the temple Society. Considering we have effective rank 7 for blood with flare adding .25 or even .1 if the effective blood rank is what counts for augment dominion (cause I think 7 is bight rank) is quite significant at that point and only costs picks. Think for a moment, if it does scale off our actual rank rather than blood rank two augments for three picks would put us at Effective rank of 7.5 and at the lowest 7.2 which is either a full rank above Avecarn or pretty close to it.
Having ennobling would give us something more to offer the people of the temple and it is pretty cheap itself though I am not sure it can compete with guile stance at the moment since that is 0 picks, ennobling and transfusion are far from out of reach.
Zampano
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- Simping for DSB
If you vote for ADS, and it wins, then I'll give you a marker worth either 1 vote or 1000 words towards any build vote of your choice. I'll promise 2000 words (or as close as I can get) if it the marker is called in favor of an Evening Sky blurb.
To clarify: I reserve no veto because I trust you'll vote for a good magic system. But if you compel me to vote for DYING then i will be sad.
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Rihaku
The Internet
Perhaps they bonded over similar life circumstances!
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Folk, folks, have I got a deal for you.
You've heard great things about our "Total Eclipse" EFB package, yes, and I'm here to tell you all of the stories are true - that's right, you too can unlock a meta-singularity of [True Quintessence], providing nigh-unrivalled powers of every possible shape and stripe!
But wait, there's more, because like I said folks, there's a special offer and this one's a doozy! Because, if you vote right now, I'll toss in Stage Two, yes, count it up, one, two, Stage Two mitigation of every single Curse, with more to come!
But, and we've got to be crazy to be giving all this away, there's even more! Because if you just vote for our toll-free option, we've been authorized to also toss in a Lesser Remittance, yes, that's right, a segment of the Lathe of Heaven, a chunk of pure potential normally restricted to The Accursed himself, absolutely free of charge!
And the fun doesn't stop there folks, because in addition to all of these fantastic items, if you vote right now, we'll also give your companion a holistic increase to a number of relevant statistics, as an extra bonus!
So please, go ahead and vote for our "Renaissance Woman" package, and recieve 35+ Arete worth of value for just 27.99!
You've heard great things about our "Total Eclipse" EFB package, yes, and I'm here to tell you all of the stories are true - that's right, you too can unlock a meta-singularity of [True Quintessence], providing nigh-unrivalled powers of every possible shape and stripe!
But wait, there's more, because like I said folks, there's a special offer and this one's a doozy! Because, if you vote right now, I'll toss in Stage Two, yes, count it up, one, two, Stage Two mitigation of every single Curse, with more to come!
But, and we've got to be crazy to be giving all this away, there's even more! Because if you just vote for our toll-free option, we've been authorized to also toss in a Lesser Remittance, yes, that's right, a segment of the Lathe of Heaven, a chunk of pure potential normally restricted to The Accursed himself, absolutely free of charge!
And the fun doesn't stop there folks, because in addition to all of these fantastic items, if you vote right now, we'll also give your companion a holistic increase to a number of relevant statistics, as an extra bonus!
So please, go ahead and vote for our "Renaissance Woman" package, and recieve 35+ Arete worth of value for just 27.99!
Strange9
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- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
One thing that I think has been undersold is the nature of Flare as the absolute best saving option. Not only is it literally cheaper than the other two, but it will refund a number of really good picks after we rescue the Ring. This means we can take a number of options (e.g. Sublime Transfusion + buff Versch) for (effectively) free!
Lealope
Not yet invincible
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Something Rihaku pointed out on the Discord is the mad level of synergy between ADS and Stranglethorn. The +++++All Stats has its Strngth doubled and then its Willpower bonuses doubled and added to Strength which massively increases our power of run which defends us against literally everything with a x5 multiplier.
It's a really, really good synergy. Makes Stranglethorn too good not to take. If there are any fans left, this is your best shot.
It's a really, really good synergy. Makes Stranglethorn too good not to take. If there are any fans left, this is your best shot.
I am a nigerian prince and If you you vote for ADS you will get one billion dollars in the mail.
Fine print: It does not come with immediate power and need some time to get going. But don`t worry, we will get what we need in an hour tops. This is not greedy at all.
It is totally unique
Fine print: All defeating stance provides half stage mitigation to every single curse with more to come.
More potential guys, because as Cursebearer we don`t understand unlimited escalation.
Fine print: It does not provide immediate power so get ready to mine Arete for the next five updates. Remember, Gulag is temporary, waifu is forever
Barber: What do you want?
Hunger: Just fuck up my build fam
Barber: Say no more, Renaissance Woman it is. Wasting 35 Arete for only 27.99
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Total Eclipse itself doesn't, but Renaissance Woman puts Gisena's physical stats above ours and enhances her Graces to True versions. It has plenty of immediate power.
citation needed???
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OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
Another thing. For the people who wanted PW applied to Surgecrafting for the low key intelligence explosion, ADS means we have a higher baseline to work off of.
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As we saw Selune bodyguard stats was similar to us. The High Marshal has superior Rank. And the Archer dude has superior agility to us.
Gisena cannot fight as long as us due to lacking active regeneration. If she is wounded her combat ability drops. Also she does not have a weapon, what is she going to do if she has to fight a physical fight? I am not sure marital arts are covered by her genius. Remember that we have the forebear blade that attacks with 5x power of ruin to each strike. And we are still at disadvantage.
Serious question to Gisena voters. If she has to fight against a physically superior opponent that cannot be suppressed with nulity, what is plan?
Her offense sucks, she is not a tank and her physically she is not the strongest/fastest in the Temple. She cannot regenerate in combat as we do and she does not have blood buffs/debuffs.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
For anybody who may not have been there for the PW+Surgecrafting intelligence explosion discussion, the logic is something like this
4(Baseline intelligence)+5(All Defeating Stance)+1(Philosopher's Wreath) = 1000% baseline buff to surgecrafting training. Possibly closer to 1300% because basic Edeldross intelligence enhancement with bursts of 1450ish percent from Advanced enhancement. We use this buff to the training effectiveness of Surgecrafting to train the magnitude of our all stats buff, raising our intelligence further, which in turn makes us even more effective at training our all stats buff, and we see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
4(Baseline intelligence)+5(All Defeating Stance)+1(Philosopher's Wreath) = 1000% baseline buff to surgecrafting training. Possibly closer to 1300% because basic Edeldross intelligence enhancement with bursts of 1450ish percent from Advanced enhancement. We use this buff to the training effectiveness of Surgecrafting to train the magnitude of our all stats buff, raising our intelligence further, which in turn makes us even more effective at training our all stats buff, and we see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
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I mean, I am not voting for the Renaissance Woman, but it's not like choosing it will require us to leave literally everything to Gisena? If there something she needs to fight, we can just fight it together with her and have people deal with two Hunger-stats opponents. And, since choosing it will certainly buy us some time and perhaps picks, Hunger will be even more powerful by the time he needs to fight whatever that is they need to fight.
Hard to say. Could enable a soft takeoff intelligence singularity, or asymptote at 60% boost, or anywhere in between. That aspect is a bit of a gamble.
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