Shard
One and Many
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Pretry much this!
A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
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Talace
It must be raining somewhere else!
I might be incorrect, but isn't training significantly less effective?
Get Stranglethorn with Uttermost to utterly crush that dumb, stinky, hyperlogarithmic scale?
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
It does come with the major benefit of not needing to risk dying. That's a big benefit.
Nothing is stopping us from taking Stranglethorn after Uttermost either, for the much needed Constitution and the insanity of double Willpower. The delta between Rank gains will remain the same.
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DarkSideBard
Flying, without moving on
[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] The Ring of Power - Inheritor (3 picks, 2 Arete)
-[X] The Unerring
I actually loathe this. But I guess I'm sympathetic to argument that it complements Stranglethorn really well and it's drawbacks can be addressed later. Stay away from that kid in the meanwhile, tho.
It's at least better than the obviously insane situation of a week-old Cursebearer trading away their ability to mitigate one of their curses whatsoever for a slip of their eventual power. What the fuck?
Y'all joke, but there's a difference between being pulled different ways on subsequent votes and outright not comprehending that there is a long term. we could achieve great power any number of ways, so frivolously picking one that unnecessarily prevents the best ending is...why?
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] The Ring of Power - Inheritor (3 picks, 2 Arete)
-[X] The Unerring
I actually loathe this. But I guess I'm sympathetic to argument that it complements Stranglethorn really well and it's drawbacks can be addressed later. Stay away from that kid in the meanwhile, tho.
It's at least better than the obviously insane situation of a week-old Cursebearer trading away their ability to mitigate one of their curses whatsoever for a slip of their eventual power. What the fuck?
Y'all joke, but there's a difference between being pulled different ways on subsequent votes and outright not comprehending that there is a long term. we could achieve great power any number of ways, so frivolously picking one that unnecessarily prevents the best ending is...why?
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
The crippled Agi is. The same reason it keeps getting shot down now.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
@Byzantine
I'll switch my vote to Unerring... if and only if you promise to vote and advocate for Stranglethorn the next time it comes up. And if that fails, to do it again the next time Stranglethorn comes up. Forever, until we get Stranglethorn or it stops being offered.
Vote, even if it cannot be voted!
No veto, no "but actually agility is really valuable", no "but this is a super rare option". Commit to voting for Stranglethorn, no matter what, and I'll respect that dedication.
I'll switch my vote to Unerring... if and only if you promise to vote and advocate for Stranglethorn the next time it comes up. And if that fails, to do it again the next time Stranglethorn comes up. Forever, until we get Stranglethorn or it stops being offered.
Vote, even if it cannot be voted!
No veto, no "but actually agility is really valuable", no "but this is a super rare option". Commit to voting for Stranglethorn, no matter what, and I'll respect that dedication.
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- Omniverse #1345
Deal. I was the original stranglethorn advocate the first time! I can do it again!
Zampano
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- Simping for DSB
Our build has a malus to training efforts that aren't based on killing things with Hunger
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- Omniverse #1345
More accurately to not stressful activity.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Kind of. Genuine exertion counts. He's gotta be feeling it.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Alright. Looking forward to seeing you prove yourself. Would be astonishing to see us actually follow through on a build plan for once...
[X] True Maiming
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] The Ring of Power - Inheritor (3 picks, 2 Arete)
-[X] The Unerring
Can be mitigated with different picks. On the other hand, consider Uttermost + Stranglethorn:
+50% Rank +s
+(14) Willpower
I certainly wouldn't mind voting Stranglethorn next time it comes up, regardless of what wins.
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
Hell, even I promise to do that. I will vote for Stranglethorn at every opportunity and only switch to tactical voting when it isn't viable to win.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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Stranglethorn is garbage with Unerring though because at least half of the latter's power set is based on Agility. Nerfing that with Stranglethorn would be a massive anti-synergy between two of our Defining Advancements. Chances are, we'll just choose some other Defining Advancement to make up the Rank penalty. This is the opposite of what you want if you want to get Stranglethorn. At least Uttermost has a level of synergy with cheap, extremely powerful blade-projections reducing the need for Agility and a massive Willpower bonus.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I don't recall "no matter what" having a provision for tactical voting...
The agreement is that I'll switch away from Uttermost, as long as Byzantine proves that his willpower is greater than even that option provides. As I said: "Vote, even if it cannot be voted!"
I actually don't understand the stat buffs. Does Unerring provide a % boost of our total which would offset Stranglethorn, or does it provide a % boost of Amarlt's total, which will not grow over time, and will be made obsolete by Stranglethorn?
Is it 50% of ours for the first attribute, and 50% of theirs for the second?
This is pretty important!
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
It might give agi but it doesn't SORD as well as Uttermost. SORDing isn't just about raw stats, it's also about mad skills.
Maragas
Nothing to see here.
- Location
- Tree House
Now I am imagining Byzantine voting for Stranglethorn even when it isn't an optionI don't recall "no matter what" having a provision for tactical voting...
The agreement is that I'll switch away from Uttermost, as long as Byzantine proves that his willpower is greater than even that option provides. As I said: "Vote, even if it cannot be voted!"
I'm operating under the assumption that Apocryphal will nail us with a 4-pick opponent sooner or later. Certainly not a guarantee, I just like that we're attempting a coordinated plan.