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Ah, very excited to see that Unerring is making a comeback! I'd be happy to see either that or Uttermost, but it remains my first choice.
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] The Ring of Power - Inheritor (3 picks, 2 Arete)
-[X] The Unerring
 
ImperatorV said:
Remember we only get half his powerset though. The other half was his dad, and his dad had the "blade" half, including those thrusts you're talking up. If we take Unerring we get the super accuracy but not the ability to pierce through anything and counter attacks. So we actually don't get the Heavy Counter part of the powerset.
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We can probably replace the Father half with Forebearer :p
 
We just took all the upgrades for Fell Handed Strike we've seen so far so letting us use it as our basic attack is pretty ridiculous. Makes it easier to get Fell Handed Crits for 21 times the power if we can spam it all day every day.
 
Goodbye, Rank.

[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)

Couldn't decide between Inheritor and Uttermost, but in the end the power of the blurb won me over. It seems right to pick a Defining Advancement that actually defines Hunger. A solid character moment and crystallization of his resolve, rather than a simple power-up.

Other, more practical, reasons for choosing Uttermost:
  • Doesn't give Rank immediately, but +30% Rank is frankly great. That's a whole 40% difference compared to Inheritor. And let's face it, we're not going to train it manually if we pick the latter. Rank remains a Godstat, so getting a malus to its gain does not seem wise.
  • Effective cost of 7 Arete by removing FOR is painful, but at least it is already paid. Inheritor takes 2 Arete now, when we barely have any. With Uttermost, we could use them to quickly patch up some of its deficiencies.
  • A huge increase in Willpower is extremely good for such a rare stat, and also fitting narratively - with the way Hunger keeps overcoming every metaphorical wall we keep sending him running into, he both deserves and needs it.
  • Personally fine with keeping the current level of Doom of the Tyrant. One less thing to argue about when it comes to mitigation. And the last mitigation vote clearly showed our priorities on that front.
Reduction of other stats sucks, especially Protection, since we have so little now, but it's not crippling. With Uttermost, offense will be our best defense. For additional layers of protection, we can use abilities instead of pure stats. We have pretty good values on Wisdom and Charisma, and it won't retroactively make Hunger worse in those areas. No idea about Luck, but there was, what, one single +Luck offer up to now, attached to Holly? It's a little early to lament reduced future increases to a stat, when it's unclear when and if we are even going to pick it.
 
Maybe spamming Fell-hand all day isn't the be-all, end-all of combat, y'know?

And never mitigating Tyrant absolutely sucks. Mitigating curses is kind of our job as a Cursebearer. This will especially suck if the Human Sphere's condition deteriorates as Rihaku as been implying. We might beg for any form of mitigation we can then, and have that closed to us prematurely really hurts.
 
LordOfMurder said:
We just took all the upgrades for Fell Handed Strike we've seen so far so letting us use it as our basic attack is pretty ridiculous. Makes it easier to get Fell Handed Crits for 21 times the power if we can spam it all day every day.
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It is certainly great but I feel strongly about closing off most other paths to get that at this juncture. We are what, a week into this task? Not even? Uttermost feels and looks like something we will have the chance to get again after we have developed our stat spread and capabilities. inheritor seems somewhat rarer and does not close off avenues of development and seems like it would pair well with both stranglethorn and uttermost if and when we take them later. Imagine gettting Inheritance the unerring now, stranglethorn later, and Uttermost even later after we have diversified a bit for a trifecta of absurdity supported by whatever utility we pick up and ring ring.
 
If it comes to choosing between Unerring or Uttermost, Uttermost appeals to me more.

[X] Lingering Exhaustion
[X] Forebear's Blade - Uttermost (4 picks)

Sorry, Unerring, but either you go hard or you go home.
 
Eh, Unerring doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to variety of combat techniques.

And we have enough Curses to focus on, more deadly ones too. For Tyrant, we already have the greatest mitigation, she's been with us since the start of the quest.
 
Wow, quite a lot of Arete has been generated these past few days! Good work, guys! Current vote count?

Prospalz said:
I am kind of surprised she actually immediately died from this. Later opponents kind of stretched my definition of "heavy, life-threatening wounds" Vanreir would've just laughed and walked this off while whistling some sort of a fun, carefree melody.
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That particular strike was a Fell-Handed Stroke, so it would have hurt him appreciably as well!
 
Tally incoming:
Adhoc vote count started by BrainInAJar on Jun 18, 2020 at 9:54 PM, finished with 751 posts and 64 votes.
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Byzantine said:
Unerring gets us 30 agi! It is going hard!
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I'm making this decision purely on aesthetic! Both Unerring and Uttermost are competitive in terms of combat effectiveness, Cut Through is supposedly a shiny so compelling it would skew the vote, and I don't want Vanreir living in our head. I want the Bears, Satan, or nothing.

Rihaku said:
Wow, quite a lot of Arete has been generated these past few days! Good work, guys! Current vote count?
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S A V E, even if it cannot be S A V E D.
 
Guys, Lingering Exhaustion is hella dangerous. Wasting a week of Apocryphal.. I mean if we can still do stuff like buffing Gisena more then it's not terrible.
 
I won't harp on it too much more, but I think the biggest difference between Unerring and Uttermost lies in the Rank modifiers.

Unerring comes in at -10%,
Uttermost nets us +30%

Don't forget the power of the god stat, and what this could translate to in a month from now.

Ahem... all of you rankers, you know what to do.
 
Rihaku said:
Wow, quite a lot of Arete has been generated these past few days! Good work, guys! Current vote count?



That particular strike was a Fell-Handed Stroke, so it would have hurt him appreciably as well!
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It was a battle long fought Rihaku, betrayals, unexpected twists galore. End it please! I can't take it anymore.
 
Hirorubie said:
I won't harp on it too much more, but I think the biggest difference between Unerring and Uttermost lies in the Rank modifiers.

Unerring comes in at -10%,
Uttermost nets us +30%

Don't forget the power of the god stat, and what this could translate to in a month from now.
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Unerring is able to manually train rank. Considering every enemy so far that provides rank came with a % of dying, I'm not inclined to that route.
 
Ahh, the hope of manual training. It's a beautiful dream you all hold. I truly wish you well.

Oh! I just had an epiphany to help the trainers out! In theory, with Uttermost - we can Train(manually), even if rank cannot be Trained(manually)!

now now, no need to thank me, I'm here to help after all.
 
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Stranglethorne Voters: Unerring makes each point of aging even more precious than it already is so picking up this in hopes of that is counterproductive.
 
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