Day 4 Begins
- Location
- Oregon, USA
Damn.
So do we just lynch Tykan now?
So do we just lynch Tykan now?
- Location
- On Earth
Because I Thought I needed to Organize this from Nictis we know the potential roles of the town are.
-1 Bodyguard
-1 Bulletproof
-1 Cop
-1 Doctor x2
-1 Fool x3
-1 Tracker
-1 Vigilante
-1 Watcher x2
-1 Bodyguard
-1 Doctor x1
The fact that's the case. Makes me believe that as one of those two. Revealing now is only in the benefit of town, since scum would know which of these two I am simply because there's only two choices left. As Such I'm the doctor.
Either Scum know I'm The Bodyguard because no one's claimed it and they know it's in play. Or, They Know that I'm the Doctor because no one has claimed it and they know the bodyguard isn't in play. This is their likely thought process. Since I'm pretty much assuming Swarmingu is the last scum.
...I literally wrote this at the worst time possible. So posting it at the beginning of the Day.
Does anyone have a reason to make me think otherwise?
-1 Bodyguard
-1 Bulletproof
-1 Cop
-1 Doctor x2
-1 Fool x3
-1 Tracker
-1 Vigilante
-1 Watcher x2
- Shadell - Doctor
- ondine - Fool
- Young Pyromancer - Fool
- Zaealix -
BulletproofScum - Totadileplayz- ???
- Tykan -
FoolScum - mesonoxian - Cop
- Scia - Watcher
- Swarmingu - As far as I can find ???
-1 Bodyguard
-1 Doctor x1
The fact that's the case. Makes me believe that as one of those two. Revealing now is only in the benefit of town, since scum would know which of these two I am simply because there's only two choices left. As Such I'm the doctor.
Either Scum know I'm The Bodyguard because no one's claimed it and they know it's in play. Or, They Know that I'm the Doctor because no one has claimed it and they know the bodyguard isn't in play. This is their likely thought process. Since I'm pretty much assuming Swarmingu is the last scum.
...I literally wrote this at the worst time possible. So posting it at the beginning of the Day.
Does anyone have a reason to make me think otherwise?
- Location
- On Earth
Yep. Accidentally kept the i'm the doctor bit in, but yes I'm the second doctor.
So, first off I wanted to apologize @Shadell and @ondine. From time to time I get moments for I think of myself as the smartest guy in the room, only for life to tell me I'm terribly wrong. Sorry, I was dead wrong, already thought so after Zaealix hammer attempt the last day, now even more. I'm only really a Fool in at least two ways.
From my PoV either Pyro or Swarmingu is scum since they both claim Fool. @Swarmingu, what is your drawback?
From my PoV either Pyro or Swarmingu is scum since they both claim Fool. @Swarmingu, what is your drawback?
- Location
- US
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I think you are right that claiming will help town and not provide the scum any more info.
I investigated swarmingu last night and got a "town" result. The thing is, I think my ability is 50% false negatives at this point. If I'd gotten a scum result, that would be certain, but "town" effectively just means "inconclusive." So that's a bust.
I think we should do some investigating first. They are probably scum, but let's give them a chance to play a bit and ourselves a chance to find information on the remaining scum.
- Location
- US
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Location
- On Earth
Worse actually.
2/3*1/2=33.3% success rate. So, Yeah Town is practically inconclusive.
- Location
- On Earth
So, real quick would you say that this would classify as the drawback you have?
Well, I have the same drawback as Pyro, as I "very weakly" hinted the last day. But here we have Ondine proven Fool with another drawback.
Since Pyro had the first drawback description it's either a) you are fake claiming taking the easy drawback or b) Pyro faking which requires the scum rolecop to read drawbacks and having copped the one of us that isn't faking N1 or N2.
So right now I'd favour to vote Swarmingu.
- Location
- On Earth
Seems like there are two equally good Scum to kill off now.
Hmm Strange. That would go against ancillory evidence otherwise. Yet, You and Tykan both Claim the exact same thing.
So it's only possible for The Scum to be among Tykan, Swarmingu, and Young Pyromancer.
let's assume worst case scenario we kill the one town of those 3.
3-2
2-1
1-0
We have quite literally solved the game.
Hmm Strange. That would go against ancillory evidence otherwise. Yet, You and Tykan both Claim the exact same thing.
So it's only possible for The Scum to be among Tykan, Swarmingu, and Young Pyromancer.
let's assume worst case scenario we kill the one town of those 3.
3-2
2-1
1-0
We have quite literally solved the game.
- Location
- On Earth
Please correct me If I'm wrong.
- Location
- Oregon, USA
Still sus of Meso, as they haven't committed to much all game. Went through their posts over the night, and they very rarely post suspicions, as well as pretty much never commit to any reads.
Also, to note, Zae WASN'T a roleblocker, even though we know they roleblocked. I think this implies that the mafia's roles must have some sort of rotating mechanic.
Also, to note, Zae WASN'T a roleblocker, even though we know they roleblocked. I think this implies that the mafia's roles must have some sort of rotating mechanic.
- Location
- Oregon, USA
EBWOP: Meso is not confirmed.
- Location
- On Earth
Except Scum all decided to unite behind one single thing.
@Shadell We can double confirm it if you'd like. If one of us says our drawback we can prove that each one of us has different drawbacks.
- Location
- Indonesia
- Pronouns
- We/Our
This might be easier if Vig is still around.
Oh well, as far as I know, Tykan and Pyro are the top suspects by account of fools roleclaim. Maybe Meso as the long shot options because unreliable cop is pretty easy to claim by scums
I'll wait my vote until Scia chimes in however. If they saw anyone visiting Ondine then said person is a scum. For Info I visited Shadell last night
Oh well, as far as I know, Tykan and Pyro are the top suspects by account of fools roleclaim. Maybe Meso as the long shot options because unreliable cop is pretty easy to claim by scums
I'll wait my vote until Scia chimes in however. If they saw anyone visiting Ondine then said person is a scum. For Info I visited Shadell last night
- Location
- Oregon, USA
? I don't understand. Please clarify.
If I understood him correctly, he's more than certain that both scum are claiming Fool rn.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Okay. Sorry about not protecting ondine, but I figured getting the argument over whether we're cleared was worth scum hitting one of us last night.
There's only 1 bulletproof in the game. Scum might not know the exact numbers of each role, but the bulletproof role has very little reason not to out themselves to get Zaea, so we can conclude that there is no bulletproof, both in Zaea faking the claim, and in it not being countered. So, let's look at the list: Green are confirmed to exist, red are confirmed fake.
ATM, there are 4 claimed fools, one of whom is confirmed but dead. That's ondine, Tykan, Young Pyromancer and Swarmingu. 2 of these, at most, are lying. Ergo, there are at least 2 fools in play.
As far as I can tell, everyone has claimed, but no one's claimed the bodyguard. This is bad for scum, since it means they slipped on organizing fake-claims (Zaea should have claimed bodyguard, for example, and would likely be alive today if so). We can thus, eliminate that.
-Bodyguard
-Bulletproof
-Doctor
-Fool
-Fool
-Tracker
-Vigilante
-Watcher
-Watcher
-Cop
-Fool
-Doctor
So, atm, that leaves cop, the second doctor and 1 fool unproven to exist.
One of the scum must be a fool, and all potential scum have a claim:
From most to least towny imo:
Watcher- Scia
Doctor-TotadilePlays
Cop-Meso
Fool-Swarmingu
Fool-Tykan
Fool-Young Pyromancer
What's interesting here, is that the bodyguard should have been an obvious fake-claim. (Granted, Zaea should likely have claimed bodyguard, having visited a player who didn't die and was in the spotlight that day).
One of the fools is scum, maybe 2. At most one of the others is scum.
Anyway, in light of the Zaea reveal, I'm not sold on Tykan being scum atm.
Particularly, Pyromancer's EoD conduct paints a bad picture.
We very likely have a watcher.
Meso has confirmed their action, Totodile's action and the fools can't give us info
So, @Totadileplayz @Swarmingu @Tykan @Young Pyromancer who'd you visit last night?
ATM, I'm suspect of Pyromancer above anyone, given how EoD and the first post of this day went:
At 5:18, Pyromancer posts a vote tally. This shows Tykan is 2 votes from the hammer.
At 5:24, six minutes later, and well after Scia's reveal on Zaea lands, we get this:
I do not like this post one bit. If I had not swapped off Tykan immediately, Tykan would have been hammered right after Zaea was outed. It's framed, given the follow-up, as agreeing with me, but Young posted the vote count immediately before. This reads like trying to make Zaea live another night, which might have given it to scum if Tykan flipped town. I don't think this is definitive proof, but it's ve
Following up with this, is... not great. It looks like trying to rush the vote on a townie before anyone suspects.
I'm confirmed pretty hard atm, on account of having protected ondine.
I've lied about how the doctor's power works during this game. What was the lie, in detail, and why didn't you call me on it when I looked extremely suspect?
There's only 1 bulletproof in the game. Scum might not know the exact numbers of each role, but the bulletproof role has very little reason not to out themselves to get Zaea, so we can conclude that there is no bulletproof, both in Zaea faking the claim, and in it not being countered. So, let's look at the list: Green are confirmed to exist, red are confirmed fake.
ATM, there are 4 claimed fools, one of whom is confirmed but dead. That's ondine, Tykan, Young Pyromancer and Swarmingu. 2 of these, at most, are lying. Ergo, there are at least 2 fools in play.
As far as I can tell, everyone has claimed, but no one's claimed the bodyguard. This is bad for scum, since it means they slipped on organizing fake-claims (Zaea should have claimed bodyguard, for example, and would likely be alive today if so). We can thus, eliminate that.
-Bodyguard
-Bulletproof
-Doctor
-Fool
-Fool
-Tracker
-Vigilante
-Watcher
-Watcher
-Cop
-Fool
-Doctor
So, atm, that leaves cop, the second doctor and 1 fool unproven to exist.
One of the scum must be a fool, and all potential scum have a claim:
From most to least towny imo:
Watcher- Scia
Doctor-TotadilePlays
Cop-Meso
Fool-Swarmingu
Fool-Tykan
Fool-Young Pyromancer
What's interesting here, is that the bodyguard should have been an obvious fake-claim. (Granted, Zaea should likely have claimed bodyguard, having visited a player who didn't die and was in the spotlight that day).
One of the fools is scum, maybe 2. At most one of the others is scum.
Anyway, in light of the Zaea reveal, I'm not sold on Tykan being scum atm.
Particularly, Pyromancer's EoD conduct paints a bad picture.
We very likely have a watcher.
Meso has confirmed their action, Totodile's action and the fools can't give us info
So, @Totadileplayz @Swarmingu @Tykan @Young Pyromancer who'd you visit last night?
ATM, I'm suspect of Pyromancer above anyone, given how EoD and the first post of this day went:
At 5:18, Pyromancer posts a vote tally. This shows Tykan is 2 votes from the hammer.
At 5:24, six minutes later, and well after Scia's reveal on Zaea lands, we get this:
I do not like this post one bit. If I had not swapped off Tykan immediately, Tykan would have been hammered right after Zaea was outed. It's framed, given the follow-up, as agreeing with me, but Young posted the vote count immediately before. This reads like trying to make Zaea live another night, which might have given it to scum if Tykan flipped town. I don't think this is definitive proof, but it's ve
Following up with this, is... not great. It looks like trying to rush the vote on a townie before anyone suspects.
I'm confirmed pretty hard atm, on account of having protected ondine.
I've lied about how the doctor's power works during this game. What was the lie, in detail, and why didn't you call me on it when I looked extremely suspect?
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Similarly, @Scia please don't claim until we've had everyone state their visits, so we'll know if someone lied.
Actually, @Totadileplayz please claim last.
Actually, @Totadileplayz please claim last.