Hmm wouldn't Atlas taking over our body gonna be a bit wonky for others? They might think that we are being mind controlled or something like that.
It will raise questions. But depending on What Atlas does, we could Either have Kakashi be suspicious of us, have the whole village think we're weird... or (worst case senario) We're in the stockade for very very weird shit.
 
My take on it is that the best age to do the sealing is 4~5. Any younger and there is not enough sense of self to resist mental pollution even if an Uzumaki, at least when it's from a full-power Kyuubi; any older, and a Bijuu of the level of the Kyuubi will not integrate with the Chakra network well enough (or, rather, the Chakra network can't adapt well enough for the Jinchuuriki to be able to use its power to the fullest). Thus, Naruto was too young to be able to mentally resist, so Minato took measures.

The 'only at certain ages' and 'only Uzumaki' in my headcanon gets more lax the weaker a Bijuu gets, and even more lax with common points between Bijuu and Jinchuuriki-to-be (a potential host of the Two-tails having a fire affinity, for example). I'm well aware that Magoose has different headcanons, but I still want to get my opinions out there.
Headcanon is all good and fine but, sadly, canon is all over the place with sealing age.
From full on adults like Hagomoro or Mito (or Obito... :rolleyes: ), to Kushina, Rin or B that were at least pre-teens, to Ni Yugito who got sealed at 2 years old, to Gaara who got sealed as a pre-term baby.


It will raise questions. But depending on What Atlas does, we could Either have Kakashi be suspicious of us, have the whole village think we're weird... or (worst case senario) We're in the stockade for very very weird shit.
Good thing we'll have a close encounter with death (not sure if we got hit by Obito killing intent, but the kunai(s) by themselves more than count), just seen our teacher get almost killed just in front of us, and let's not forget the incoming Death/Fear Aura of the Kyubi are each, let alone together, perfect excuses for slightly "out of character" behavior.
 
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If we do go the scientist route we may want to look into the idea of a way to safely integrate tailed beast Chakra into normal ninja. It would be a huge boon and probably easier avenue to obtain the power of a tailed beast then trying to shoving one into our soul/body. Of course this a way end of quest idea but it is something for those who want that jinuricka power and if we going god modified route tailed beast Chakra is probably a must.
 
@Magoose Was wonder if we could add a sub vote to the Atlas one which boils down to requesting that if we give him control that he heals or at least try to heal Kakashi first.
 
This is one of the time we should default to the robot tho, I don't think Shiro has any medical jutsu training and so we should use the information Atlas has to help ourselves and then Kakashi.
That option is to give full control to Robot, skip all decision making, and wake up after everything is over. Not a temporary thing at all.

Our protagonist, if we ever get into a similar situation, will just cave to grant control over to the vastly superior AI... I hope something happens to allow the protagonist to not dodge all need to act on a difficult situation related to themself in the future.

Oh, and while we're at it, why the fuck did he throw away the Yin half when he could have had a second secret WMD for his village instead? Seriously, as far as i'm concerned Minato was retarded on that night.
I thought that was to make Naruto less of a target for Obito. By splitting the power, and sealing half of it, if Obito ever got the Kyuubi it wouldn't be the whole thing. Weakening whatever Obito wanted the Kyuubi for.
 
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That option is to give full control to Robot, skip all decision making, and wake up after everything is over. Not a temporary thing at all.

Our protagonist, if we ever get into a similar situation, will just cave to grant control over to the vastly superior AI... I hope something happens to allow the protagonist to not dodge all need to act on a difficult situation related to themself in the future.
I kind of doubt Magoose is gonna use this vote as an a way to push forward the idea of now you never get to vote to let him control and he will just auto do it without any input on our behalf. If we had any of the magical ninjutsu bullshit to heal people I'd vote for us to do the deed ourselves but we don't so let's give it over to someone who has way more training in first aid then we've had years alive.
 
I kind of doubt Magoose is gonna use this vote as an a way to push forward the idea of now you never get to vote to let him control and he will just auto do it without any input on our behalf. If we had any of the magical ninjutsu bullshit to heal people I'd vote for us to do the deed ourselves but we don't so let's give it over to someone who has way more training in first aid then we've had years alive.
Atlas has over 1000 years of medical knowledge on the entire world.

Kakashi is in safe hands.
 
I kind of doubt Magoose is gonna use this vote as an a way to push forward the idea of now you never get to vote to let him control and he will just auto do it without any input on our behalf. If we had any of the magical ninjutsu bullshit to heal people I'd vote for us to do the deed ourselves but we don't so let's give it over to someone who has way more training in first aid then we've had years alive.
It's less about Magoose's ability to railroad as the QM and more about the players jumping on "Atlas save me! Only logical to ask the Ai that is more impressive than protagonist to do X action.".

Why did the players choose to speak with Atlas, and thus Obito? "Atlas is an AI, that saves us if we roll gud."

In my eyes, this situation is not life threatening enough to Kakashi that Atlas needs to takeover, unless the rolls go hilariously bad. One of the reactions is that Atlas would be better than the protagonist in the situation because we are a kid. Okay fine that works for right now, but the the future is uncertain (if the players never gain access to a medic on call, or medical skills, or anything they believe Atlas would be better fit for. Going to Atlas for a "scratch" is a possibility I'm probably overacting on.)

Also, I don't want to give up this event into the Atlas's hands. Seeking aid for one problem means giving up totally for another five problems, if Atlas is given the okay to takeover.
 
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Why did the players choose to speak with Atlas, and thus Obito? "Atlas is an AI, that saves us if we roll gud."
Personally, I vote to speak with Atlas to meet Obito. There was a chance that the Dice could have done something absolutely glorious, and even though they didn't we did some good here.
In my eyes, this situation is not life threatening enough to Kakashi that Atlas needs to takeover, unless the rolls go hilariously bad.
It's life threatening enough that mouther-fucking Kakashi is out for the count, and Obito assumed he would die.
 
Personally, I vote to speak with Atlas to meet Obito. There was a chance that the Dice could have done something absolutely glorious, and even though they didn't we did some good here.
THe dice give, the dice take... But Three Minutes motherfuckers... you bought three minutes.

A lot can happen in three minutes.
It's life threatening enough that mouther-fucking Kakashi is out for the count, and Obito assumed he would die.
Yeah, Kakashi is "dying"... but he isn't dying. He's got a few hours of blood left in his body before that happens.

He's survived worse, but it's bad.
 
Personally, I vote to speak with Atlas to meet Obito. There was a chance that the Dice could have done something absolutely glorious, and even though they didn't we did some good here.

It's life threatening enough that mouther-fucking Kakashi is out for the count, and Obito assumed he would die.
My mistake, I made an assumption that the AI as a security blanket was a prime factor in the decision making process for that option. I didn't vote for it, so choosing to meet the "false final boss", gave me a need to rationalize insanity. I honestly have a hard time making the first conclusion that sometimes people make decisions based on preference, or a desire for "awesome".

Since when is Obito a medic, or capable of on the scene analysis of dying people?
 
Why did the players choose to speak with Atlas, and thus Obito? "Atlas is an AI, that saves us if we roll gud."
Talking to Atlas in hopes of establish some humanity which is going to be a long process so we can get better usage out our past life skill as well as maybe make it so in future hopefully help mitigate the health problem that will occur. Need to change either our mentality somewhat or alter our body otherwise we will start suffering from some health/mental problems as the trait memories of a machine implies. Also if we talk to it enough hopefully we can convince it to stop shutting down our arms when a problematic enemy appears.
In my eyes, this situation is not life threatening enough to Kakashi that Atlas needs to takeover, unless the rolls go hilariously bad. One of the reactions is that Atlas would be better than the protagonist in the situation because we are a kid. Okay fine that works for right now, but the the future is uncertain (if the players never gain access to a medic on call, or medical skills, or anything they believe Atlas would be better fit for. Going to Atlas for a "scratch" is a possibility I'm probably overacting on.)
We are probably going to go for the medical skills due to it working well with Atlas's knowledge as with it and then we can do some serious good. Like it or not we are going to have to use Atlas in come capacity, it's not just something we can ignore. If we train and talk to it hopefully it will make this sort of situation where we have to let it control our body happen less often.
 
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[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
 
THe dice give, the dice take... But Three Minutes motherfuckers... you bought three minutes.

A lot can happen in three minutes.
Oh yeah, hence the "we did some good here". Even if literally everything else plays out as canon, having the ID of the person behind this attack changes A LOT. In canon, no one knew what happened, besides grumblings of "Maybe Madara???", which lead to a lot of unease and more than a few distrustful glares in the direction of the Uchiha. But here, we know EXACTLY who it is. The Uchiha are not part of it, at all, and are easily cleared of all suspicion they would have faced in canon. What's more, with Konoha being in the know about what is really going on they can actually start looking for Obito, figure out what he's up to, and prepare to fight him (maybe bring Minato back to help out. That IS a thing they can do, create Immortal Dead-People With Infinite Chakra. If they REALLY need to, they could ring up the other two hokage as well).
Yeah, Kakashi is "dying"... but he isn't dying. He's got a few hours of blood left in his body before that happens.

He's survived worse, but it's bad.
I doubt he'd ACTUALLY die, but we IC don't got any reason to know that.
My mistake, I made an assumption that the AI as a security blanket was a prime factor in the decision making process for that option. I didn't vote for it, so choosing to meet the "false final boss", gave me a need to rationalize insanity. I honestly have a hard time making the first conclusion that sometimes people make decisions based on preference, or a desire for "awesome".

Since when is Obito a medic, or capable of on the scene analysis of dying people?
Yeah, I didn't think there was any real risk of Game Over, due to Plot, so I felt no danger in meeting Obito right now. There was definite risk, but there is a lot of potential reward as well. If we can keep Kakashi from biting the dust, I feel this has absolutely been worth it.

He's not a Medic, but he IS a trained killer. He was literally trained for years in the fine art of making people dead.
 
He's not a Medic, but he IS a trained killer. He was literally trained for years in the fine art of making people dead.
That doesn't mean that Obito would always stick around to observe his kills, or that his word is a good estimate of a dead man. The only training I'm aware Obito got was through the Konoha Academy. Whatever Obito got taught there, was not something that came up too often. If Oito would have the ability to reliably estimate Kakashi's chances of dying at this point in time, is unknown?

Canon obito got trained in Konoha, and spent time with Madara... I'm not seeing the conclusion Obito would acquire that skill.
 
That doesn't mean that Obito would always stick around to observe his kills, or that his word is a good estimate of a dead man. The only training I'm aware Obito got was through the Konoha Academy. Whatever Obito got taught there, was not something that came up too often. If Oito would have the ability to reliably estimate Kakashi's chances of dying at this point in time, is unknown?

Canon obito got trained in Konoha, and spent time with Madara... I'm not seeing the conclusion Obito would acquire that skill.
Obito got trained in the Academy, AND trained by Minato who has A LOT of experience making people dead.

Plus, ok, you are saying we should gamble Kakashi's life on the chance that Obito doesn't know what he's talking about? And even if he DOESN'T know what he's talking about, there is STILL a chance he just happens to be right anyways. It is a severe injury, you can't argue against that, because if it wasn't Kakashi wouldn't be down for the count like he is, so there is definitely a chance this injury would be life-threatening if left untreated regardless of what Obito had to say.
 
[X]Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)


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Obito got trained in the Academy, AND trained by Minato who has A LOT of experience making people dead.

Plus, ok, you are saying we should gamble Kakashi's life on the chance that Obito doesn't know what he's talking about? And even if he DOESN'T know what he's talking about, there is STILL a chance he just happens to be right anyways. It is a severe injury, you can't argue against that, because if it wasn't Kakashi wouldn't be down for the count like he is, so there is definitely a chance this injury would be life-threatening if left untreated regardless of what Obito had to say.
I wouldn't call it a gamble. Either we go with Atlas, believing Atlas would immediately aid Kakashi, and pull through fine. Or we go with trying to aid Kakashi our self, keeping player control over the interlude while having Atlas in our head, possibly doing fine.
 
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I wouldn't call it a gamble. Either we go with Atlas, believing Atlas would immediately aid Kakashi, and pull through fine. Or we go with trying to aid Kakashi our self, keeping player control over the interlude while having Atlas in our head, possibly doing fine.
It's absolutely a gamble. Gambling that he ain't actually on death's door and taking the FAR less likely to work option.

And what could we do for Kakashi on our own? Cry over his wounds? We literally have no medical experience.
 
[X]Help Kakashi: You need to help Kakashi-Sensei, he doesn't look like he will die, but his wounds are serious.
 
[X] Atlas Takeover: "I am more experienced in these matters Shiro… let me help." (Note: This will skip the rest of the night, and you will not be able to influence it)
 
@Magoose Watching random naruto vids, something that always bothered me popped back into my head. Why is Obito not blind? Or, going blind? He has the Mangekyo Sharingan, NOT the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, and he's using that sucker, like, 24/7. You got any good-ish answer for that, or shall it just be Hashirama Zetsu cells like how Naruto hand waves a ton of other things?
 
@Magoose Watching random naruto vids, something that always bothered me popped back into my head. Why is Obito not blind? Or, going blind? He has the Mangekyo Sharingan, NOT the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, and he's using that sucker, like, 24/7. You got any good-ish answer for that, or shall it just be Hashirama Zetsu cells like how Naruto hand waves a ton of other things?
Personally... Madara swapped eyes before he kicked the bucket.

If that doesn't satisfy you... zetsu cells.
 
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