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I believe Frigga regaining consciousness is far easier task given that she dosent have Friggaslep, then we can have her rein in Thor and officially pass her regency to us untill she and Odin recover.
LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)
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I believe Frigga regaining consciousness is far easier task given that she dosent have Friggaslep, then we can have her rein in Thor and officially pass her regency to us untill she and Odin recover.
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You can try as King to say it is now owned by someone else. But not magically. Unless you get a stupid high roll.
Reaction from Asgard or others?
Asgard wouldn't like it at all. They didn't know who attacked them, but sanctions gave them a place to point. Now it's being lessened? And because Thor did what was right and just and brought the fight to them? Not going to be popular.
Others would see it as a sort of bullying. So Asgard puts on sanctions, sends its best warrior to attack, and then 'lessens' them as a form of mockery.
Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
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I mean how popular would the idea of thor leading, compared to loki be? Especially if we release all the things he's done that makes him unfit to lead.
Not very I would wager.
Of course thor as a warrior is respected and liked but I doubt that type of popularity would apply very well to a bid to take control from loki when as far as they can tell he has done a good job while thor was causing interplanetary incidents .
Not very I would wager.
Of course thor as a warrior is respected and liked but I doubt that type of popularity would apply very well to a bid to take control from loki when as far as they can tell he has done a good job while thor was causing interplanetary incidents .
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Even with Thor attacking civilians?
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...You know just because people want to be pragmatic and want to handle things in a way that doesn't involve war doesn't mean that it's due to 'Thanos' fans. In fact a number of people that don't want war did admit to not liking Thanos. Seriously, your issue is that you only support 'Attack, attack, attack!' as a reaction and never seem to willing to compromise or try something else or even look at things from another perspective. That kind of thing is literally one of the main issues people have with Thor.
Just because people disagree with you there doesn't make them 'Thanos fans'.
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Assuming you're talking about the Asgard one...yeah. At most it's a 'he took it a little far, but he meant well/did the right thing' type of sentiment.
Loki has no idea about that. Or what that could mean.
Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
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@KnowledgeKing If we have Thor something comparable to storm breaker would power levels stay consistent to endgame? Basically would Thor have the ability to kill Thanos?
Edit: @Red Bovine you aren't pragmatic at all. Every time we had a Thanos vote you wanted to give up. When Thanos was at the bridge and betrayed us and with the Merc. All you were saying was give up and when we didn't look at how that turned out. Beautifully might I point out.
Edit: @Red Bovine you aren't pragmatic at all. Every time we had a Thanos vote you wanted to give up. When Thanos was at the bridge and betrayed us and with the Merc. All you were saying was give up and when we didn't look at how that turned out. Beautifully might I point out.
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How? There would be a civil war, with our very own general siding with Thor...
We would be fked, nay... we are fked. (if Thanos has used the Mind Stone)
EDIT: So... removing the sanctions has suddenly become a very no-no thing.
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If Thanos keeps up these actions on other people eventually he will have quite a coalition against him.
If we build up a peacekeeping force and ally with Nova Core we could stop any growth attempts from him.
Maybe we make a trade? Titan must pay for a peacekeeping force.
If we build up a peacekeeping force and ally with Nova Core we could stop any growth attempts from him.
Maybe we make a trade? Titan must pay for a peacekeeping force.
The problem with that thinking is we would likely have a civil war anyway if we try to push Thor away.
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Would it be possible to make it seem like that due to Thor's attack that things are more 'even'? Basically Thanos attacked Asgard and then Thor did the same to Titan.
...You do know that I outright changed my vote when the QM outright confirmed that giving up meant that Thanos would take Asgard? And for the love of god how many times does it need to be said that there is a colossal difference between giving and retreating from a fight you are unlikely to win? Seriously, we ended up running from Thanos when it became obvious that we had very little chance of winning which is made even more apparent when Thanos kicked the ass of Asgard best warrior Thor AKA the guy that Loki could never beat.
Besides that my main issue wasn't fighting per say but people like you outright refusing to consider that we didn't need to fight and absolute refusal to try anything but attack when the opportunity shown up. If you haven't noticed you Darkcore are the only person I call out for your attitude while when other people bring up the possibility of attacking they at least seem willing to try other things and hear out other opinions that don't involve attacking.
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... What? Where am I pushing Thor away?
Dude.... Frigga is crippled, both physically and magically. And Odin was maimed.... Things will never be 'even' for the people of Asgard.
I meant the general vote is pushing Thor away. They want to make a promise that Loki cannot keep, that would alienate Thor and possibly make Loki look bad domestically and foreign.
What are the pros here to stopping Thor or making the promise? Loki won't be able to stop Thor and a it would be doing is destabilizing Asgard politically. Loki doesn't even have the popularity to win this. It will either be a civil war or the shortest reign ever.
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Alot of the arguments are why I made my own vote. I dislike the current leading vote as it makes it sound like we are colluding with Thanos. I don't want to attack because we risk too much, but I want to make it clear why sanctions were put up.
Basically to say Titan will stay weakened until Asgard recuperates
Edit: Also don't push Thor away please. If he leaves there's a chance he'll come back, but if we push him away he'll stay stubborn till the end of time. Also trading our brother for the invader seems in bad taste.
Secondly @Darkcore41 apologizing isn't banishing Thor. You are accusing quite a few people for wanting to diss him entirely when some do just wanna say sorry to Thanos.
Finally I think we can all say that or top priority is bringing back Odin and Frigga so that they could sort this out. And I mean ODIN AND FRIGGA. Not just Frigga s we can powergame our way to the top. If one wakes up before the other we vice the throne to them, but we try to wake both up at least.
Basically to say Titan will stay weakened until Asgard recuperates
Edit: Also don't push Thor away please. If he leaves there's a chance he'll come back, but if we push him away he'll stay stubborn till the end of time. Also trading our brother for the invader seems in bad taste.
Secondly @Darkcore41 apologizing isn't banishing Thor. You are accusing quite a few people for wanting to diss him entirely when some do just wanna say sorry to Thanos.
Finally I think we can all say that or top priority is bringing back Odin and Frigga so that they could sort this out. And I mean ODIN AND FRIGGA. Not just Frigga s we can powergame our way to the top. If one wakes up before the other we vice the throne to them, but we try to wake both up at least.
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Yes because Thor slaughtering civilians is not enough to make it even. Infact Thor did worse by attacking non combatants.
Abyssal_light
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Well you see.
Thor would effectively be a sleeper agent. (Or at least that's how I think thanos would use him)
So
Here's my brilliant plan.
Step one : Do a good job and get the people to like us
Step two : show that thor has no intent to lead.
Step three : when thanos shows his hand claim that thor is not acting himself.
Step four: utilise this by requesting thor submits to tests to check their are no external influences affecting him (bluff of necessary)
Step 5 (if he refuses ): use this to spread rumors that thor is being mind controlled
Step 5 (if he accepts) use the machine (if we have it ) or have the top magic users check him
Step 6 : use thor's discredited position to in prison him. Taking the throne
Step 7: Do a good job ruling
Seeee how simple and completely un-convoluted that is?
All we have to do is follow the steps to achieve profit.
What could go wrong?
Again reread Thanos's comments, Thor attacked a military base not non combatants. I don't know where you are getting this Thor attacked civilians from.
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Asgard belongs to Odin, and then to Thor. Period 💅💅
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The choice has come down to 'Asgard' or the 'Galactic Community'
There is nothing here that could convince anyone to vote for what is right. But QM has made clear if the sanctions are lessened, Loki will lose the Asgardian support. And with Thor still being more popular than Loki... you can most definitely expect him contesting for the Throne, if he finds out sanctions has been lessened.
[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
There is nothing here that could convince anyone to vote for what is right. But QM has made clear if the sanctions are lessened, Loki will lose the Asgardian support. And with Thor still being more popular than Loki... you can most definitely expect him contesting for the Throne, if he finds out sanctions has been lessened.
[X] No, an apology for actions that were not mine or done on my orders would be a hollow apology. I can disavow his actions but apologise for them, I'm afraid not.
[X] Thanos of Titan, I cannot hope to understand the way your mind works. I may apologize for Thor's acts, but I refuse to remove the sanctions until the king and queen have been resuscitated. Only then will my business withdraw the sanctions. You hope to teach me a lesson? Then let me teach you one. Pain begets pain.
.... read the chapter again, before commenting.
Two factors that you are completely ignoring are 'Time' and we can't predict insane (Thanos).
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And for someone who repeatedly accuses people of voting a certain way to be 'Thanos fans' you seem to be a Thor fan in that you are seemingly willing to ignore all the issues that people have with Thor and the reasons people bring up about not trusting him with anymore power. At this point Thor is a spoiled, irresponsible, brash, hot headed manchild. I'm really not seeing how it's in any way a good idea to give Thor anymore power. Especially since he has routinely been shitting on our authority and has given us little listen to believe he wouldn't act irresponsibly.
I mean Thor at this point was so bad that Odin decided to strip him of his power and banish him to Midgard for him to mature.
I think you are putting it the wrong way. We are on the side of Asgard. We just have our own ideas to how to handle things. While the rest of Asgard's opinion should be taken into account it's the King's job to decide what is the best way to go forward. Hence why we should try to balance actions and PR.
Like this here^^. There is a reason that people don't just want to go to escalate to war right away and want to build up Asgard and make allies and also deal with the issues in the Nine Realms.
I get that but as I mentioned, trying to come up with some middle ground and looking at things. Besides that we can probably heal Frigga and Odin and would really prefer that we at least get Odin up before talking about things like war.
Abyssal_light
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Damm you @Sanas22
Damm you a-and your infernal logic.
You shall see, you will all see the brilliance that is my plans . You think you've foiled me just you wait.
I'll be back with a bigger, better and moooore complicated plan, try and ruin that as well. Then you will see something truly magnfificant. That I promise you!