@KnowledgeKing
Is learning Economics or Finance something that Loki can do this turn under the action of "Learn Something New"?
Pretty sure that those are covered in Loki's knowledge of stewardship otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever that Loki became so successful if he didn't already have knowledge of such things.
@KnowledgeKing
@Nystical
But, why Jotunheim? It seems a step back for a man who can now influence the entire galaxy (though he is just starting at that).
Nothing is stopping us from influencing other places but becoming Jotenheim's King would be fun goal to work to and we could still run our business. That and might as well start somewhere and uplifting Jotenheim would give us immense cred along with being a King/ruler.
 
To widen our circle of friends/allies/acquaintances: Astrid is a former classmate with that interest, and we've shown good results in gardening, so we could leverage that common interest to hopefully acquire a new friend.

I've revised the plan from here.
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[x] Reinvesting in Strengths.

Martial: (1+2)
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[] Magic:
- [] Try to incorporate your magic into your fighting
-- [] Binding/Sealing DC 90 Martial, DC 80 Learning
- [] Become the absolute expert in:
-- [] Biology. DC 130
--- [] With Sigyn (Primary)

Diplomacy: (1)
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[] Make Peace with Thor. Once and for all. DC 50


Stewardship: (3+1)
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[] Purchase materials for a Forge. DC 30 Intrigue. DC 15
[] Become a Justice of Asgard. DC ???
[] Build a new Phoenix Financial branch.
- [] On the Kree Homeworld. DC 85
-- NOTE: "Aggressive Expansion" should reduce this to DC 35.
[] Try to become Master of Coin/Treasurer of Asgard. DC ???

Intrigue: (1+1)
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[] Discern the different technologies used by these other planets outside of the Nine Realms. DC ???
[] Acquire the foreign technology from these other planets. DC 70


Learning: (1+1)
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[] Have Osmond tutor you/explain his methods and thoughts of science to you. DC 60
[] Try mixing different magics in an experiment. DC 75


Personal: (4+x)
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[] Try to further master your magic you discovered. DC 55
[] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor
-[] Astrid: Gardening
[] Work with Sigyn to figure out her magic, or if she has it. DC ???
-[] With Osmond (Primary)
[] Try to harness the power of the Bifrost! DC 50 Intrigue. DC ??? Magic
-[] With Sigyn (Primary)

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Osmond has an idea he wants to share with Loki
[] Hear him out
Sigyn wants to spend time with Loki
[] Yes
Frigga wishes to speak with Loki.
[] Accept.
 
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Might be an unpopular opinion, but I believe Loki stands to gain very little from being king of a country he's never been a part of at this point.
If he is to become king then he will need to focus on that one country and he will be highly restricted in his actions if Jotunheim is supposed to flourish or at least not stagnate under Loki's rule. So many actions will be bound to the problems of that one planet.
 
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I believe Loki stands to gain very little from being king of a country he's never been a part of at this point.
If he is to become king then he will need to focus on that one country and he will be highly restricted in his actions if Jotunheim is supposed to flourish or at least not stagnate under Loki's rule. So many actions will be bound to the problems of that one planet.
I agree; at this point Loki has no ties to Jotunheim, targeting it in particular is more metagaming and operating on knowledge that Loki simply doesn't have. That said, there's a lot of things we can do to prepare for either kingdom-management or adventuring.
 
[X]Company Planet
Martial: +1
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-[X] Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
-- [X] War, DC 70
-- [X] Tactics, DC 75
If we are going to play in the big leagues we might need this.

Diplomacy: +1
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-[X] Convince Sigyn that she needs to learn how to defend herself/fight. DC 5
-[X] Try to talk with Elym. DC 10

Sigyn is a weakness for Loki, I dont want her to be the Lois Lane to Loki's superman. We should talk to Elym as she is also friends with Osmond and can help reign him in if he goes too far.

Stewardship: Choose Three Actions (One is locked in to improve Phoenix Financial) +1
-[X] See if you can pay a few retired soldiers to stand guard at Phoenix Financial. DC 15
-[X] Strike a second contract with Asgard to receive even more guards. DC 55
-[X] Improve Security at Phoenix Financial. DC 60
-[X] Buy a...planet? DC ???

We ballooned to quickly and need more security in troops and defenses. The planet is to create natural ground for all nations and a way to get around Odin's rulings like forge magic.
Intrigue: +1
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-[X] Use your vast wealth to gain insight on others. (Establish a Spy Network/Rumor Mill). DC ???
-[X] Ask the Dwarves about making a weapon similar to Mjolnir for you. DC 60

We need information as a big company, especially when dealing with other governments. I want to go to the dwarfs and see if we can make an amulet that allows for easier stat/skill/trait gain. We do not need the Assassins right now that's an offensive action not a defensive one.

Learning:
-[X] Have Osmond tutor you/explain his methods and thoughts of science to you. DC 60

This action spends time with Osmaond while increasing our grasp on Science.

Magic: +1
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-[X] Work with Sigyn to figure out her magic, or if she has it. DC ???
-[X] Attempt to utilize raw magic energy. DC 70

Sigyn is Loki's weak point and now that Loki is rich a potential target, best to rectify that while we can. Also we should try raw magic to cover our bases as a magic expert just in case a battle between mages happen.

Personal: Choose Up to Five Actions.
-[X] Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world!
-- [X] The Instructor
-- [X] The Trainer
-- [X] Hábrók
-[X] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor: Osmond
-[X] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor: Sigyn

We have not spoken to the trainer and instructor for a while and we have only spoken to our pet once. Trying to get advisors to increase our AP and our friends are more likely to come with us if we leave.
Other:
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-[X] Hear him out
-[X] Yes
-[X] Accept.
 
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Establishing a Jotunheim branch also prevents a potential scuffle between frost giants coming to Asgard for business and Asgardians.

If something like that breaks out, Odin may limit travel into Asgard, which could throttle our revenue until we build branches everywhere.
 
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I love the plans guys, but reminder, we have a pet
Considering the fact years go by at a time, I don't think we should leave it for a turn until we develop a bit of a better relationship.
 
Jotunheim has the highest chance because of the specific historic rivalry.

From the lore.
No I mean the fights your implying won't happen if we have their transactions I'm in a different planet or branch. It doesn't need to be on there plane. Also you could say the same about the fire people yet we aren't making a branch for them. Even if you say up a branch in there realm our guards are Asguardian and so are most of our workers. So a fight might still happen either because they are in their realm or their king sees this as a threat.
 
[X]Company Planet
Martial: +1
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-[X] Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
-- [X] War, DC 70
-- [X] Tactics, DC 75
If we are going to play in the big leagues we might need this.

Diplomacy: +1
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-[X] Convince Sigyn that she needs to learn how to defend herself/fight. DC 5
-[X] Try to talk with Elym. DC 10

Sigyn is a weakness for Loki, I dont want her to be the Lois Lane to Loki's superman. We should talk to Elym as she is also friends with Osmond and can help reign him in if he goes too far.

Stewardship: Choose Three Actions (One is locked in to improve Phoenix Financial) +1
-[X] See if you can pay a few retired soldiers to stand guard at Phoenix Financial. DC 15
-[X] Strike a second contract with Asgard to receive even more guards. DC 55
-[X] Improve Security at Phoenix Financial. DC 60
-[X] Buy a...planet? DC ???

We ballooned to quickly and need more security in troops and defenses. The planet is to create natural ground for all nations and a way to get around Odin's rulings like forge magic.
Intrigue: +1
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-[X] Use your vast wealth to gain insight on others. (Establish a Spy Network/Rumor Mill). DC ???
-[X] Ask the Dwarves about making a weapon similar to Mjolnir for you. DC 60

We need information as a big company, especially when dealing with other governments. I want to go to the dwarfs and see if we can make an amulet that allows for easier stat/skill/trait gain. We do not need the Assassins right now that's an offensive action not a defensive one.

Learning:
-[X] Have Osmond tutor you/explain his methods and thoughts of science to you. DC 60

This action spends time with Osmaond while increasing our grasp on Science.

Magic: +1
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-[X] Work with Sigyn to figure out her magic, or if she has it. DC ???
-[X] Attempt to utilize raw magic energy. DC 70

Sigyn is Loki's weak point and now that Loki is rich a potential target, best to rectify that while we can. Also we should try raw magic to cover our bases as a magic expert just in case a battle between mages happen.

Personal: Choose Up to Five Actions.
-[X] Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world!
-- [X] The Instructor
-- [X] The Trainer
-- [X] Hábrók
-[X] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor: Osmond
-[X] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor: Sigyn

We have not spoken to the trainer and instructor for a while and we have only spoken to our pet once. Trying to get advisors to increase our AP and our friends are more likely to come with us if we leave.
Other:
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-[X] Hear him out
-[X] Yes
-[X] Accept.
Uh, I honestly though that you would choose the Nornheim option this turn. What made you not choose it?
 
Jotunheim has the highest chance because of the specific historic rivalry.

From the lore.
I think @Darkcore41 meant that the Jotuns won't need to use the Asgardian branch if we make some in other realms/planets. They don't necessarily need one. We can build one down the road, but it's not really needed as long as travel between the worlds doesn't make money exchange too inconvenient.

Edit: Ninja'ed
 
Pretty sure that those are covered in Loki's knowledge of stewardship otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever that Loki became so successful if he didn't already have knowledge of such things.

I disagree- the story constantly has Loki asking "How? Why?" as to his success. Meaning that, while he is an excellent steward, he does not know exactly why he is successful- suggesting a lack of Financial or Economic knowledge.

@Darkcore41
I like your plan, but would like to suggest a few ideas:

Shift the Diplomacy Action from Sigyn Being Convinced to Fight to us Burying that Hatchet with Thor (with Assistance from Sigyn). The reason is that it would settle a thorn in our side, would improve our relations with Thor, and may allow us to ask him to be our Martial Advisor next turn. He is the greatest Warrior we know other than our Father. So...might be a good idea. The "Lois Lane" situation might not be as pressing for the reason that Loki isn't known to be the head of Phoenix Financial, is a bit of a social pariah, and is not a known warrior.

Shift from either buying a planet to building a Branch in Nova or Titan (we need to lower the amount of People going through our lone branch) OR shift from making another deal with Asgard to buying our own army- to protect our planet. If you want to have a neutral planet, it still needs to have an army to ward of pirates and to be considered protected enough for bigger governments to work with.

Edit: I suggested Nova (may need help from Sigyn and Osmond) because they are Space Cops- so their base would be very, very secure. But, if we were to do that, we might want to make a branch with the Kree at the same time as to avoid views of favoritism.
 
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Would people like building our own trade kingdom as opposed to gaining control of anothed

If so, I think my plan prepares us well for it, and I could also make a few changes to gear it towards that.
 
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I believe Loki stands to gain very little from being king of a country he's never been a part of at this point.
If he is to become king then he will need to focus on that one country and he will be highly restricted in his actions if Jotunheim is supposed to flourish or at least not stagnate under Loki's rule. So many actions will be bound to the problems of that one planet.
I have no idea why people are saying that we would be restricted to one single planet considering that at the moment we are running a large organization and still have time to do other stuff. Besides that we would have other people under us and can likely work things in a way to have the workload go to other people as well. That kind of thing is literally extremely common in CK2 style quests.
 
I have no idea why people are saying that we would be restricted to one single planet considering that at the moment we are running a large organization and still have time to do other stuff. Besides that we would have other people under us and can likely work things in a way to have the workload go to other people as well. That kind of thing is literally extremely common in CK2 style quests.
There would be restrictions because the frost giants are under Asguard making us a vassal state. So unless you plan on succeeding from Asguard then Odin's ruling superceed ours. That means no forging and whatever else he decides to do. It would pit us in the same position as Amora last quest, where accumilating to much influence is bad.
 
There would be restrictions because the frost giants are under Asguard making us a vassal state. So unless you plan on succeeding from Asguard then Odin's ruling superceed ours. That means no forging and whatever else he decides to do. It would pit us in the same position as Amora last quest, where accumilating to much influence is bad.
...I'm legit amazed at the sheer irony that people complained about Amora being power hungry, even though when it's been outright stated by the QM she would have been content with just Midgard if Odin didn't try to arrest her the first time last quest, and wanting tons of power was bad and let it seems like people are against anything that would limit us in any single way no matter how small because they don't want to constrained in how much power Loki can gain.

Besides that I am not really sure if Odin would curtail us that much and you seem to have a really bad habit of treating assumptions as facts.
 
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...I'm legit amazed at the sheer irony that people complained about Amora being power hungry, even though when it's been outright stated by the QM she would have been content with just Midgard if Odin didn't try to arrest her the first time last quest, and wanting tons of power was bad and let it seems like people are against anything that would limit us in any single way no matter how small because they don't want to constrained in how much power Loki can gain.

Besides that I am not really sure if Odin would curtail us that much and you seem to have a really bad habit of treating assumptions as facts.
Well, yeah, she did commit treason. She had the gun loaded, was given the chance to put it down as she hadn't yet done anything, and she said, yeah no fuck you, I like having holes in my feet.

Also @Darkcore41 I have to disagree, as it seems Odin is trying to create a pretty strong peace treaty by having Loki take over, rather then wait for the next rebellion. If anything it seems like we'll at most simply be expected to be there when Asgard calls for help.
 
@Nystical

I would be in favor of making a financial giant versus taking on a single kingdom- it gives us a little more flexibility to move around and I like the idea of no one knowing that Loki is the head of a rising part of the galaxy.

To that end, might I suggest a few things:

Change the branches to the Kree and to the NovaCorp worlds. With Sigyn helping . The thought is that we don't want to show favoritism and, at the same time, these are larger organizations that could really use money changing. Also, if we expand phoenix to include banking or investment, they could be useful.

Change the learning option from Looking into Loki's hand into either History or another skill. This will free up Osmond and also Sigyn. Also, Loki's heritage is less important.
 
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[x] Genius, trillionaire, philanthropist
So this plan will be going a bit off script. It focuses on Loki embracing his business success and using it to establish a dominant position in the societies of various planets.
Martial:
[x] Study: So you could be a great tactician instead? A general even.
- [x] Strategy, DC 80
Someone is probably going to try and attack us, and it isn't going to be one on one or outright war at this stage. Let's see if we can learn what they would try and how we could deal with it.

Diplomacy +2
[x] Recruit Assistants. DC 45
[x] Recruit Magicians/Sorcerers. DC 65
[x] Make Peace with Thor. Once and for all. DC 50
We need someone who can help us keep track of everything, and we need magical protection for our business. My hope is to use the assistants to make it easier for us to expand Phoenix Financial when we branch out to more issues.
With Thor we need to stop this fighting so we can focus on what's actually important, and as @MysteryCPU said he might become our martial advisor if we improve our relationship with him.

Stewardship +3
[x] Improve Phoenix Financial's capabilities. DC 45 (Locked)
[x] Build a new Phoenix Financial branch.
- [x] Vanaheim. DC 35
- [x] On Titan. DC 55
[x] Open up trade with these other planets, outside of the realms. DC 50
- [x] With Sigyn (Primary)
[x] Look elsewhere for more guards. One could never have enough. DC ???
- [x] On the planets the new branches will be located on
- [x] With Sigyn (Secondary)
[x] Improve your Science-Math Workshop. DC 50
- [x] With Osmond (Primary)

Phoenix Financial is a stupendous success. It's reaching out to trillions of costumers. Now we have their attention lets solidify our hold on them. I'm thinking first we establish new branches. This allows us to better recruit local talent to both our staff and security. Also, it makes it more appealing for people to use our services if Phoenix Financial has a regional branch.
My hope is that we can use these branches to give us a more solid base for future business on the planets. And maybe even allow us to undermine the governments if need be.
Why not Jotunheim? Because at this point Loki has no trust of Frost Giants. They are an adversary of Asgard, and old enemy. Why would he focus on building up his company there when it is currently just an Asgardian company and Asgard's allies don't yet have a branch.
Then while we're building up these new branches we expand our trade to planets outside our realms.
In regards to Science-Math workshop my idea is to let Osmond help us improve it, and perhaps tempt him with a position in it to let him focus on his ideas, and work on them for mutual benefit.

Intrigue:
[x] Use your vast wealth to gain insight on others. (Establish a Spy Network/Rumor Mill). DC ???

We need to know more about what's going on, so we don't get surprised by war or something.

Learning:
[x] Visit the Library
- [x] Learn something new. DC 30
- [x] Economics and Finance
Edit: As some have pointed out it sounds like we aren't exactly aware why Phoenix Financial is so successful. We are the undisputed financial leader of Asgard and (probably) beyond. Let's ensure we actually understand it all. Why is our model so popular, what is the alternative they were using, and can we improve it even more? Should also help our Stewardship "Improve Phoenix Financial's capabilities" if we are more knowledgeable on the subject.

Magic:
[x] Enchant Something.
- A way for Phoenix Financial's employees to tell if someone is lying.

I think something is in the pipeline for Phoenix Financial. It has been too smooth sailing at this point. And as the company grows so does our inability to oversee things. But we have a great staff… let's just give them that little edge.
My hope is that we can suss out someone trying to infiltrate or undermine the company, as well as keep us away from bad actors.

Personal:
[x] Relationships: Spend time with some of your favorite people in the world!
- [x] Sigyn
- [x] Thor
- [x] Osmond

[x] Ask a character to be a mentor/advisor
- [x] Thor, martial advisor
- [x] Sigyn, diplomacy advisor

Naturally we need to keep our relationships going. My hope is that by burying the hatchet with Thor and spending time with him we can convince him to become our martial advisor.
Sigyn is introduced to a position of responsibility and helps us with negotiating expansion for Phoenix Financial. Top it off with her becoming our advisor.

Osmond has an idea he wants to share with Loki
[x] Hear him out

Sigyn wants to spend time with Loki
[x] Yes

Frigga wishes to speak with Loki.
[x] Accept.
 
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...I'm legit amazed at the sheer irony that people complained about Amora being power hungry, even though when it's been outright stated by the QM she would have been content with just Midgard if Odin didn't try to arrest her the first time last quest, and wanting tons of power was bad and let it seems like people are against anything that would limit us in any single way no matter how small because they don't want to constrained in how much power Loki can gain.

Besides that I am not really sure if Odin would curtail us that much and you seem to have a really bad habit of treating assumptions as facts.
Its not about power it about choices, if we are with the frost giants then as a king Odin has to curtail there influence to be under Asguard. If we gain to much influence then we can potentially succeed and he can't do anything about it or face a financial disaster. I don't think he is stupid enough to overlook that possibility even if it is his own son. The thing about Amora is she shouldn't have set up shop in one of the nine realms without asking Odin first. It's his property and just subverting his realms aren't right, it's the reason no one is touching the subvert troops and realms options.
 
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