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The Passing of Beautiful Histories (Civ Quest)
- Thread starter Powerofmind
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
See, if we were a theocracy this situation would be a lot simpler.
Years of crack-shipping have taught how to bend all events to suit my narrative.
Years of crack-shipping have taught how to bend all events to suit my narrative.
If we were a theocracy, we'd already be in a civil war over who is the true Oracle instead of both factions seeking redress with the King's bloodline.
Just like the theocrats have kept the monarchy in check, monarchy is keeping the theocrats in check right now.
Separation of powers has worked so far. Clearly we need more factions.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Exactly!
Then we'd just need to whap down the filthy opposing side and voila, we'd be home safe.
The Twenty-And-Five-Voices-That-Linger-In-The-Heads-Of-Young-Maidens call out for blood? Seems reasonable.
[X] Storm the Temple, raise the Usurper, and kill the Cursed Oracle.
[X] Crack down on the Usurper, and follow the Oracle's guidance.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
[X] Storm the Temple, raise the Usurper, and kill the Cursed Oracle.
[X] Crack down on the Usurper, and follow the Oracle's guidance.
Yeah, I can get behind one of these two. Now is not the time for wishy-washing.
[X] Crack down on the Usurper, and follow the Oracle's guidance.
Yeah, I can get behind one of these two. Now is not the time for wishy-washing.
- Location
- nz
[X] Crack down on the Usurper, and follow the Oracle's guidance.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
No mob decision, no consensus vote.
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
Selja rides the lightning up the ladder then. Locked
Purification of a Kingdom
Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
In the end, there was never any question what Selja would do. His grandfather insisted otherwise, but he and his most trusted men would always remember the wickedness pouring from the Cursed Oracle's mouth when they stormed the main quarters of the temple. Several of the people in the room when she was finally killed had even taken leave of their senses and gone on to become homeless and madmen, raving incoherent in the streets of the cities. The Gadawa faction crumbled without the woman's influence, and ultimately the way the temples chose their Oracle would be forever altered, though Selja didn't have much interest in the minutia.
What did interest him was his sudden elevation to Prince, and further, the breaking of the drought. Three years to the day, according to the temple sages, after the Cursed Oracle's blood was spilled, the drought left as suddenly as it came, rain poured from the heavens like a straining wall had collapsed, and while there was some unpleasant flooding in Gadawa and Dalwa, the reinvigoration of the land more than made up for the annoyance. It became nearly impossible for his Uncle's supporters to continue their condemnation of him, and even some of his most vocal detractors grudgingly admitted he made the right decision.
As his grandfather's lordship comes to a close, Selja presides over the funeral as is custom. It is a rare time, free of messengers and advisors, and it is a time he needs most desperately to reflect upon things.
In the years leading up to his ascension, Selja was brought into the fold of the King's administration, and brought up to date with the myriad concerns of his office. Despite the removal of the Cursed Oracle and the end of the drought, many of King Eiza's projects continued to stall and stutter, especially since the drought was long enough to leave many people living hand to mouth, and, thanks to the troubles, none had realized the lands around Maye had become almost sterile, growing only the hardiest of shrubs and scraggly grasses. Sages from the temple claimed the spirits of the land were exhausted, taxed by the toil the farmers did on the soil, and needed rest and nourishment. While a rather odd idea, the area would have to go to pasture anyway since nothing of note could grow there anymore.
The drought had also brought some minor difficulties to their neighbors, of whom the Far-Coast tribes were still recovering. The Plainsmen, or Alwethi as they called themselves, suffered extensively in it's wake, and had even come to the Mayep to petition trade in exotic goods for food. To deny them would be easy enough, as they had been badly weakened, but they possessed a great many previously-unseen wonders and baubles that a number of his advisors were incredibly interested in.
The new Oracle, young and somber, stands apart from Selja's place, across the main road leading to the place the previous kings were buried. As the body, wrapped in finery, passes by, she orates Selja's new mandate, and expresses her trust in the spirits who have her ears that he will lead the Mayep forward in grace. It is quite a burden.
Temporary Boon: Growing Stone Industry (Some projects cost less to do, some Wonders are enhanced, general wealth projects work better, Technology Development: Architecture)
The King is a brilliant man and is quick to master many things. He expects to focus on a particular area of statecraft for his time as Lord of Maye. Choose One:
[] [Genius] Master Warfare - King Selja sees much to be gained in battle during his lifetime, or much to impart.
[] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
[] [Genius] Master Diplomacy - King Selja has learned from the innovative spirit of the traders and artisans, and though no outsider could equal the King, he has found there is an art in barter he could make use of.
The King is dead, long live the King. Selja is a brilliant leader who can manage as many as four projects simultaneously, though such a weight will tax his mind and body. Plan your votes! You may or may not add the Genius task to your plans, your choice.
The King is an unparalleled Genius, and sees more than most in the flow of the kingdom.
Martial: 7-8 [Mighty] (+Maye, +Gadawa, -Aging and Attrition)
Economy: 0-1 [Shortages] (+++++Gadawa, -Maye, =Anye, +++Dalwa)
Wealth: 5-6 [High] (-Gadawa, -Maye, +++Anye, -Dalwa)
Stability: Moderate (-Aborted Disaster, ++Replaced Unpopular Oracle)
Legitimacy: Very High (New King, Event Decisions, Aborted Disaster, Oracle of Gadawa Supporting)
Technological Strain: Hieroglyphics, Accounting, Material Science (General), Shipbuilding, Philosophy (General), or Animal Domestication
Sometimes you just know that a particular technique is falling into obsolescence, or is so incredibly popular as to prompt all sorts of competition between artisans working in the field. Necessity is the mother of invention, and by attempting to push and prod certain institutions a little harder, new advances might crop up to keep up with demand.
What did interest him was his sudden elevation to Prince, and further, the breaking of the drought. Three years to the day, according to the temple sages, after the Cursed Oracle's blood was spilled, the drought left as suddenly as it came, rain poured from the heavens like a straining wall had collapsed, and while there was some unpleasant flooding in Gadawa and Dalwa, the reinvigoration of the land more than made up for the annoyance. It became nearly impossible for his Uncle's supporters to continue their condemnation of him, and even some of his most vocal detractors grudgingly admitted he made the right decision.
As his grandfather's lordship comes to a close, Selja presides over the funeral as is custom. It is a rare time, free of messengers and advisors, and it is a time he needs most desperately to reflect upon things.
In the years leading up to his ascension, Selja was brought into the fold of the King's administration, and brought up to date with the myriad concerns of his office. Despite the removal of the Cursed Oracle and the end of the drought, many of King Eiza's projects continued to stall and stutter, especially since the drought was long enough to leave many people living hand to mouth, and, thanks to the troubles, none had realized the lands around Maye had become almost sterile, growing only the hardiest of shrubs and scraggly grasses. Sages from the temple claimed the spirits of the land were exhausted, taxed by the toil the farmers did on the soil, and needed rest and nourishment. While a rather odd idea, the area would have to go to pasture anyway since nothing of note could grow there anymore.
The drought had also brought some minor difficulties to their neighbors, of whom the Far-Coast tribes were still recovering. The Plainsmen, or Alwethi as they called themselves, suffered extensively in it's wake, and had even come to the Mayep to petition trade in exotic goods for food. To deny them would be easy enough, as they had been badly weakened, but they possessed a great many previously-unseen wonders and baubles that a number of his advisors were incredibly interested in.
The new Oracle, young and somber, stands apart from Selja's place, across the main road leading to the place the previous kings were buried. As the body, wrapped in finery, passes by, she orates Selja's new mandate, and expresses her trust in the spirits who have her ears that he will lead the Mayep forward in grace. It is quite a burden.
Temporary Boon: Growing Stone Industry (Some projects cost less to do, some Wonders are enhanced, general wealth projects work better, Technology Development: Architecture)
The King is a brilliant man and is quick to master many things. He expects to focus on a particular area of statecraft for his time as Lord of Maye. Choose One:
[] [Genius] Master Warfare - King Selja sees much to be gained in battle during his lifetime, or much to impart.
[] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
[] [Genius] Master Diplomacy - King Selja has learned from the innovative spirit of the traders and artisans, and though no outsider could equal the King, he has found there is an art in barter he could make use of.
The King is dead, long live the King. Selja is a brilliant leader who can manage as many as four projects simultaneously, though such a weight will tax his mind and body. Plan your votes! You may or may not add the Genius task to your plans, your choice.
The Oracle
**Consult the Oracle (Spends an action, ???)
[A consultation is a ceremonious visit to the Oracle's Seat in Gadawa. It looks favorably on the King and all but ensures support from the Oracle, and might prompt strange opportunities, but the political power of that particular King is somewhat diminished for it]
Manpower (Restored)
Military Training (+Martial)
Land Grants (+Economy)
Artisan Workers (++Wealth) [Enhanced by Growing Stone Industry]
Trade
Mission to [Polity] (-Wealth, ?Wealth Later, ???) [Far-Coast, Upriver, Oathtribes, Alwethi]
*Special Mission to Alwethi (-Economy, +++Wealth, -Stability, ???)
Long-Term Projects
Subjugate more tributaries from the [faction] (-??? Martial, ???) [Upriver Tribes (easier), Plainsmen (???), Long-Coast Tribes (tougher), Oathtribes (toughest)]
Settle [region] (-Economy, +??? later) [North Coast (trade), South Coast (trade)] Manpower Limitations
City Improvements (Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa)
*Build walls for [city] (--Economy, -Martial, slow project) [*Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa]
Irrigate Dalwa (-Economy, -Martial, ++Economy Later)
*Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
Fortify [city] (-Economy, -Martial, +Martial later) [Anye, Dalwa]
Quarry the stone at Anye (-Economy, ???)
Great Projects
*Codify the rules of conduct of the Mayep, making official the punishments for the abuses of the kingdom and it's peoples. Imbue in scrolls every law of the Mayep as from the lips of it's Lord. (+?-Economy/Wealth/Stability/Legitimacy???, counts as two projects, might require extra attention, completes a Code of Laws)
The fleets of the Mayep require a lot of upkeep, and regular replacements. Make plans for a grand harbor to house the fleet at Anye. (-Economy, -Wealth, counts as two projects, begins Grand Docks early wonder)
*Formalize Gadawa as the Seat of the Oracle by expanding the temple there. Such a complex will attract many sages and learned men, possibly from very far away. (-Economy, --Wealth, counts as two projects, begins the Great Temple early wonder)
Build a Palace at Maye to house the ruling family. It will solidify the idea of Maye as capital of the kingdom, and ensure all things pass close to the eyes and ears of her King. (-Economy, --Wealth, -Martial, counts as two projects, begins the Palace early wonder)
Normal projects can be doubled or tripled for enhanced effects.
**Consult the Oracle (Spends an action, ???)
[A consultation is a ceremonious visit to the Oracle's Seat in Gadawa. It looks favorably on the King and all but ensures support from the Oracle, and might prompt strange opportunities, but the political power of that particular King is somewhat diminished for it]
Manpower (Restored)
Military Training (+Martial)
Land Grants (+Economy)
Artisan Workers (++Wealth) [Enhanced by Growing Stone Industry]
Trade
Mission to [Polity] (-Wealth, ?Wealth Later, ???) [Far-Coast, Upriver, Oathtribes, Alwethi]
*Special Mission to Alwethi (-Economy, +++Wealth, -Stability, ???)
Long-Term Projects
Subjugate more tributaries from the [faction] (-??? Martial, ???) [Upriver Tribes (easier), Plainsmen (???), Long-Coast Tribes (tougher), Oathtribes (toughest)]
City Improvements (Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa)
*Build walls for [city] (--Economy, -Martial, slow project) [*Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa]
Irrigate Dalwa (-Economy, -Martial, ++Economy Later)
*Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
Fortify [city] (-Economy, -Martial, +Martial later) [Anye, Dalwa]
Quarry the stone at Anye (-Economy, ???)
Great Projects
*Codify the rules of conduct of the Mayep, making official the punishments for the abuses of the kingdom and it's peoples. Imbue in scrolls every law of the Mayep as from the lips of it's Lord. (+?-Economy/Wealth/Stability/Legitimacy???, counts as two projects, might require extra attention, completes a Code of Laws)
The fleets of the Mayep require a lot of upkeep, and regular replacements. Make plans for a grand harbor to house the fleet at Anye. (-Economy, -Wealth, counts as two projects, begins Grand Docks early wonder)
*Formalize Gadawa as the Seat of the Oracle by expanding the temple there. Such a complex will attract many sages and learned men, possibly from very far away. (-Economy, --Wealth, counts as two projects, begins the Great Temple early wonder)
Build a Palace at Maye to house the ruling family. It will solidify the idea of Maye as capital of the kingdom, and ensure all things pass close to the eyes and ears of her King. (-Economy, --Wealth, -Martial, counts as two projects, begins the Palace early wonder)
Normal projects can be doubled or tripled for enhanced effects.
Martial: 7-8 [Mighty] (+Maye, +Gadawa, -Aging and Attrition)
Economy: 0-1 [Shortages] (+++++Gadawa, -Maye, =Anye, +++Dalwa)
Wealth: 5-6 [High] (-Gadawa, -Maye, +++Anye, -Dalwa)
Stability: Moderate (-Aborted Disaster, ++Replaced Unpopular Oracle)
Legitimacy: Very High (New King, Event Decisions, Aborted Disaster, Oracle of Gadawa Supporting)
Technological Strain: Hieroglyphics, Accounting, Material Science (General), Shipbuilding, Philosophy (General), or Animal Domestication
Sometimes you just know that a particular technique is falling into obsolescence, or is so incredibly popular as to prompt all sorts of competition between artisans working in the field. Necessity is the mother of invention, and by attempting to push and prod certain institutions a little harder, new advances might crop up to keep up with demand.
Heh, the city wall outright stopped being a great project.
Hrm, Legitimacy is high enough for us to not need to consult with the Oracle. Same with the temple, though that one might help reduce tech strain on Hierogliphics and Philosophy(not sure about Accounting, seems more of a Palace thing).
Palace might be similar to the Temple when it comes to tech strain(and it's healthier for our famished Econ right now anyway). Probably less focused on Philosophy though, it seems more for running the kingdom than being a place of learning.
@Powerofmind 4 actions or 3?
Edit: Also, is the Oracle only approving a city wall around Maye but not the other settlements?
Hrm, Legitimacy is high enough for us to not need to consult with the Oracle. Same with the temple, though that one might help reduce tech strain on Hierogliphics and Philosophy(not sure about Accounting, seems more of a Palace thing).
Palace might be similar to the Temple when it comes to tech strain(and it's healthier for our famished Econ right now anyway). Probably less focused on Philosophy though, it seems more for running the kingdom than being a place of learning.
@Powerofmind 4 actions or 3?
Edit: Also, is the Oracle only approving a city wall around Maye but not the other settlements?
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Powerofmind
In Madness Fallen
- Location
- United States
4 OR 3. You can squeeze that many actions in, but there is a penalty for it in this case.
The Oracle counsels the wall about Maye.
Tech strain is representing a combination of factors that result in 'a million monkeys on a million type-writers' type of advances. More strain means more monkeys, and is a good thing (unless they continue to produce gibberish, in which case it's still more monkeys so it still helps).
Hum, boats might have become necessary for maintaining stability. At least until we get domesticated animal tech up to where we have beasts of burden. Or until our Boat surplus blots out the sun.
And trading (low-reserves) food for shinies with the hungry landlockd tribe just happens to be an option at a time when Animal Domestication is a strained tech.
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Next to no reserves but we should be generating ~7 Econ(minus whatever the plan costs) over the course of the turn. We should be fine but the system might be more forgiving of building walls(due to it being a slow project) than the special food->tech trade with the no-longer-nomads Alwethi.
On the other hand, not helping the Alwethi might cause them to raid us. They're the hungry grandchildren(ish) of Nomads after all...
[X] Plan Whatever Floats Your Boat.
-[X] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
-[X] The fleets of the Mayep require a lot of upkeep, and regular replacements. Make plans for a grand harbor to house the fleet at Anye. (-Economy, -Wealth, counts as two projects, begins Grand Docks early wonder) [Genius]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Irrigate Dalwa (-Economy, -Martial, ++Economy Later)
-2 Econ, -1 Wealth. Increases Stability. Starts the thing for the trade fleet that is needed to maintain high levels of specialization(might lead to early Techne?).
This could probably do the Special Mission to the Alwethi. It has the resources to spare if I'm looking at the resource generation correctly.
...Irrigation. Irrigation for the food. And maybe we can expand the ditches into proper Canals later so we can have boats travel through them. Risky but meh.
[X] Plan Disregard Hillfolk. Construct Additional Pylons.
-[X] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
-[X] *Build walls for [Maye] (--Economy, -Martial, slow project) [*Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Quarry the stone at Anye (-Economy, ???) [Genius]
-[X] Artisan Workers (++Wealth) [Enhanced by Growing Stone Industry]
Cost: 4 Econ, 1 Martial. Gain: 1 Stability, 2 Wealth, ???(Quarry) and city wall(Early Motte-and-Bailey castle when combo'd with the Hill Fort?)
Basically gambits on the surplus in food production to tide us over for the up-front cost and tries for synergy(stone quarry, stonecarvers, stone construction projects to use the stone).
It all stems from the Quarry so I'm putting [Genius] there for now, though I'm willing to switch to something like Walls if that has more support.
[X] Plan Food for Shinies
-[X] [Genius] Master Diplomacy - King Selja has learned from the innovative spirit of the traders and artisans, and though no outsider could equal the King, he has found there is an art in barter he could make use of.
-[X] *Special Mission to Alwethi (-Economy, +++Wealth, -Stability, ???) [Genius]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Irrigate Dalwa (-Economy, -Martial, ++Economy Later)
Cost: 3 Econ, 1 Martial, 1 Stability. Gain: 2 Econ, 1 Stability and ???(former Nomads)
As above, gambits on the surplus in food production to tide us over for the up-front cost(though it's a fair bit cheaper). Also double Oracle approval and net-neutral on Stability, might cause some overflow given that this Oracle seems to be a good one.
If it works, Anye won't be our sole source of Wealth(due to us getting land trade) and Dalwa will match Gadawa in food production.
I'm tempted to either fortify Dalwa(protecc food) or throw in a stone industry(Artisan, Quarry) type thing in an attempt to strain Material science but that's for another plan.
Edit: Making it anyway:
[X] Plan Fort, Food and Shinies
-[X] [Genius] Master Diplomacy - King Selja has learned from the innovative spirit of the traders and artisans, and though no outsider could equal the King, he has found there is an art in barter he could make use of.
-[X] *Special Mission to Alwethi (-Economy, +++Wealth, -Stability, ???) [Genius]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Irrigate Dalwa (-Economy, -Martial, ++Economy Later)
-[X] Fortify [Dalwa] (-Economy, -Martial, +Martial later) [Anye, Dalwa]
Also added Irrigation to Whatever Floats Your Boat(since it's not catching any votes) and specified Genius since that's a thing apparently.
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- Location
- Canada
[X] Plan Disregard Hillfolk. Construct Additional Pylons.
-[X] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
-[X] *Build walls for [Maye] (--Economy, -Martial, slow project) [*Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Quarry the stone at Anye (-Economy, ???)
-[X] Artisan Workers (++Wealth) [Enhanced by Growing Stone Industry]
-[X] [Genius] Master Administration - King Selja governs a large kingdom with absolute control, and improving his skill with numbers and letters can only help.
-[X] *Build walls for [Maye] (--Economy, -Martial, slow project) [*Maye, Anye, Gadawa, Dalwa]
-[X] *Construct a Temple in Dalwa (-Economy, +Stability)
-[X] Quarry the stone at Anye (-Economy, ???)
-[X] Artisan Workers (++Wealth) [Enhanced by Growing Stone Industry]
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Warrior King
-[X] [Genius] Master Warfare - King Selja sees much to be gained in battle during his lifetime, or much to impart.
-[X] Military Training (+Martial)
-[X] Land Grants (+Economy)
-[X] Land Grants (+Economy)
-[X] Subjugate more tributaries from the [faction] (-??? Martial, ???) [Upriver Tribes (easier)] [Genius]
Damnit people we are warriors.
-[X] [Genius] Master Warfare - King Selja sees much to be gained in battle during his lifetime, or much to impart.
-[X] Military Training (+Martial)
-[X] Land Grants (+Economy)
-[X] Land Grants (+Economy)
-[X] Subjugate more tributaries from the [faction] (-??? Martial, ???) [Upriver Tribes (easier)] [Genius]
Damnit people we are warriors.
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
See? We brought change and in return Lord Uwali granted us water again. In hindsight it was obvious that removing the cursed oracle and wetting the soil with her blood would solve the drought.
- Location
- Sweden
[X] Plan King Over The Nomads
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