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Come on, why not pick raiding? We can be Viking/English hybrids!
Chronicles of History - Civ Quest
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I think the general idea is that picking intercept should lead to better boats than the other options, though that could just be my thinking.
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Maybe, but raiding also requires you to develop better boats, if in different ways perhaps.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Elders.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Elders.
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- USA
True, but raiding splits attention between land and sea while interception focuses purely on the naval side of things.
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I'd say that's a good thing, don't neglect the army.
HanEmpire
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[X] [Sunset] They forced the survivors to take oaths of servitude to them.
[X] [Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
Approval voting to stop the slavery vote. All anti-slave voters, please do the same with your own Sunset votes.
[X] [Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
Approval voting to stop the slavery vote. All anti-slave voters, please do the same with your own Sunset votes.
[X] [Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
Please for the love of all that is holy, Sacred, blessed, and senseable let's not do slavery.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
Please for the love of all that is holy, Sacred, blessed, and senseable let's not do slavery.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
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I wouldn't say it is a question of neglect but focus. As an island civ we can reasonably focus squarely on the naval side.
Naw, naval power all the way! Our enemies armies won't be worth spit if they can't put their boots on the ground in the first place.
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The only thing that's holy, sacred, blessed and senseable is pure, cold cash! Everything for that sweet, sweet gold!
KlinkerKing
Man bites dog?
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[X] [Sunset] They forced the survivors to take oaths of servitude to them.
[X] [Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
IC:
Salutations, siblings of my blood, tribe of my people!
Those of us united in the belief of the necessity of free will of humankind, must together ensure that the slavers, the cruel ones who would take father from daughter and brother from sister, are defeated in this duel for the righteousness of our people!
OOC:
Guys, historically speaking, the main advantage of being a trading nation is that you have dosh. You use this dosh to hire mercenaries and keep your citizens happy and your population (relatively) educated. Having a trading empire with a slave based economy in the ancient/prehistorical era is really silly, because what you effectively do is place the cash flow at risk when you go to war. The slaves have constant incentive to revolt, the mercenaries are only loyal so long as they're paid, and the slightest setback in a war could lead to both disastrous situations triggering at once. This is what Random wants, because he's an accelerationist. Let's not do that.
IC:
Thus Always To Tyrants!
[X] [Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
IC:
Salutations, siblings of my blood, tribe of my people!
Those of us united in the belief of the necessity of free will of humankind, must together ensure that the slavers, the cruel ones who would take father from daughter and brother from sister, are defeated in this duel for the righteousness of our people!
OOC:
Guys, historically speaking, the main advantage of being a trading nation is that you have dosh. You use this dosh to hire mercenaries and keep your citizens happy and your population (relatively) educated. Having a trading empire with a slave based economy in the ancient/prehistorical era is really silly, because what you effectively do is place the cash flow at risk when you go to war. The slaves have constant incentive to revolt, the mercenaries are only loyal so long as they're paid, and the slightest setback in a war could lead to both disastrous situations triggering at once. This is what Random wants, because he's an accelerationist. Let's not do that.
IC:
Thus Always To Tyrants!
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Really getting tired of this. "Oh, I don't like the way Random votes, therefore he must be trying to destroy us!"
FYI, no, I'm literally just voting for this to have something different for once. And if we already have slaves, we can't accidentally create quasi-slaves by making our civilization highly stratified in our constant quest for "meritocracy".
I'm not going to start thinking about ways to start a Communist Revolution until the main turns start, so relax.
KlinkerKing
Man bites dog?
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Are you saying you're not interested in GLORIOUS BAUERNREPUBLIK DITHMARSCHEN?Really getting tired of this. "Oh, I don't like the way Random votes, therefore he must be trying to destroy us!"
FYI, no, I'm literally just voting for this to have something different for once. And if we already have slaves, we can't accidentally create quasi-slaves by making our civilization highly stratified in our constant quest for "meritocracy".
I'm not going to start thinking about ways to start a Communist Revolution until the main turns start, so relax.
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Eww, a republic of filthy peasants! Only Merchant Lords in this Serene Republic!
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- United States
[X] [Sunset] They forced the survivors to take oaths of servitude to them.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
If we are trying to become a merchant republic (or a trader nation of some sort) why would we want to start out with a group of people who, by their very status, cannot gain or expend wealth?
It's much more profitable to have an underclass of wage slaves instead of actual slaves y'all
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
If we are trying to become a merchant republic (or a trader nation of some sort) why would we want to start out with a group of people who, by their very status, cannot gain or expend wealth?
It's much more profitable to have an underclass of wage slaves instead of actual slaves y'all
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Vote Tally : Chronicles of History - Civ Quest - Original | Page 5 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 124-167]
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Task: Sunset
[X][Sunset] They took the survivors as slaves and dispersed them amongst their villages.
No. of Votes: 9
[X][Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
No. of Votes: 8
[X][Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
No. of Votes: 6
[X][Sunset] They forced the survivors to take oaths of servitude to them.
No. of Votes: 4
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Oldshore
[X][Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
No. of Votes: 19
[X][Oldshore] They send their own raiding parties to attack the mainland settlements.
No. of Votes: 7
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Beyond
[X][Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
No. of Votes: 21
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Faction
[X][Faction] The Traders.
No. of Votes: 18
[X][Faction] The Elders.
No. of Votes: 2
Total No. of Voters: 21
Vote Tally : Chronicles of History - Civ Quest - Original | Page 5 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 124-167]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
Task: Sunset
[X][Sunset] They took the survivors as slaves and dispersed them amongst their villages.
No. of Votes: 9
No. of Votes: 8
[X][Sunset] They conquered their lands and took them as their own.
No. of Votes: 6
[X][Sunset] They forced the survivors to take oaths of servitude to them.
No. of Votes: 4
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Oldshore
[X][Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
No. of Votes: 19
No. of Votes: 7
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[X][Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
No. of Votes: 21
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: Faction
[X][Faction] The Traders.
No. of Votes: 18
No. of Votes: 2
Total No. of Voters: 21
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If we are trying to become a merchant republic (or a trader nation of some sort) why would we want to start out with a group of people who, by their very status, cannot gain or expend wealth?
It's much more profitable to have an underclass of wage slaves instead of actual slaves y'all
Athen was trading city state and had slaves at the same time.
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[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
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It's much more profitable to have an underclass of wage slaves instead of actual slaves y'all
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- Southampton, Great Britain
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The Arthwyd also did conquest in the lowlands.
[X] [Sunset] They forced the remaining tribes to cease attacking you and acknowledge them as their overlords.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
[X] [Oldshore] They intercepted the mainland raiders while at sea.
[X] [Beyond] They traded with both the Forest Priests and the Sunset Clans.
[X] [Faction] The Traders.
- Location
- USA
Come on people there are currently two other civ quests that are active where we went the vassal route, if we aren't going to do things differently then why even play this one?
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Slavery.
Feudalism.
Conquest.
Vassalage.
Vassals are a pain. They require constant attention or else they eventually break away. Seriously, atleast try to integrate them or something.
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Not to mention since we are island civ actually controlling said Islands is far better option since then we can focus on building up our fleet so that no one can attack us without fear of our vassals backstabbing us.