Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- 'Straya mate.
This was what I was going to vote for:
[] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[] [MAIN] Study Magic
[] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
And so with the economic issues from that first vote addressed:
[X] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
This gives us the bonuses from the quest and leads us to us controlling the bronze trade. Greater exposure to bronze may lead to other people wanting to make it but at the same time, if they can already access that will lower their chance of trying to make it. Plus it improves a temporary stat.
Going with just our allies may be better, but ultimately it probably won't cost us too much in the long run, especially since we probably have the conditions for making it anyways, what the relative rarity of tin.
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[X] [SEC] Study Magic
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[] [MAIN] Study Magic
[] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
- Culture:
- 2 Temp. culture currently.
- -1 from Temple.
- -1 from Maradysh integration
- +2 from free Venerate we get from the faction quest for temple building
- End result: 2 Temp. culture out of one permanent culture, enough for golden age.
- Mystic:
- 3 Temp. mystic currently.
- -1 from Temple
- -2 from study magic.
- +2 from free temple venerate
- End result: 2 Temp. mystic out of 3 permanent mystic, no negative effects.
- Econ:
- 10 Temp. econ.
- +1 from completing the Elders quest
- -6 from Temple.
- -1 from Temple veneration.
- -1 from province trading mission, probably to the Colryd or Caradysh, hopefully to the Nomad Boarfolk.
- -1 from the other province trading mission.
- -1 from Study magic. If we did a main magic study that would leave us on 0 temp. econ, therefore...
- +4 from secondary fishing. Fishing gives us a chance to improve boats.
- End result: 0 Temp. economy out of 19 permanent economy. Leaves us vulnerable to bad events and restricts our mid-turn options. Therefore we must do a farming or fishing and a secondary magic study instead of a main magic study.
And so with the economic issues from that first vote addressed:
[X] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
This gives us the bonuses from the quest and leads us to us controlling the bronze trade. Greater exposure to bronze may lead to other people wanting to make it but at the same time, if they can already access that will lower their chance of trying to make it. Plus it improves a temporary stat.
Going with just our allies may be better, but ultimately it probably won't cost us too much in the long run, especially since we probably have the conditions for making it anyways, what the relative rarity of tin.
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[X] [SEC] Study Magic
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Vote is still open.
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##### NetTally 1.9.7
Task: Bronze
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 12
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 10
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
No. of Votes: 15
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 13
[X][Sec] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 10
[X][SEC] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 9
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SEC] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 4
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
No. of Votes: 3
[X][SEC] Study Metal.
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Western Coast)
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlander Tribes)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Colryd Kingdom)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Caradysh)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 7
[X][Main] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 2
[X][Main] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 2
[X][MAIN] Study Magic x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 23
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##### NetTally 1.9.7
Task: Bronze
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 12
No. of Votes: 10
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
No. of Votes: 15
No. of Votes: 13
No. of Votes: 10
No. of Votes: 9
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SEC] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 4
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
No. of Votes: 3
[X][SEC] Study Metal.
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Western Coast)
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlander Tribes)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Colryd Kingdom)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Caradysh)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 7
[X][Main] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 2
[X][Main] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 2
[X][MAIN] Study Magic x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 23
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Don't worry so much about the Golden Age, just do what you want to see to be done.
- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] More Fishing
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
I have no idea what's going on anymore, So I just vote for a bunch of options that complete quests and are cool.
Also fishing, to not drown in econ deficit.
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] More Fishing
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
I have no idea what's going on anymore, So I just vote for a bunch of options that complete quests and are cool.
Also fishing, to not drown in econ deficit.
Sheepa
I'm a sheep!
- Location
- The World
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
- Location
- Toronto, Canada
[X] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X] [SEC] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Study Metal.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
Enchanted bronze tools/equipment would be funny.
[X] [SEC] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Study Metal.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
Enchanted bronze tools/equipment would be funny.
- Location
- Grandview
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
- Location
- 'Straya mate.
Main stone wall would leave us on -1 mystic. Negative stats are a really bad idea.
- Location
- 'Straya mate.
The given value comes first, the change due to the action taken comes second.
Current Value: 10
The provinces are then forced to do one economy generation as they're unable to cause negative stats and Oshha has stated that they choose farming. If they won't put us into negative, they perform their policy.
They may not do two farming as that may lead to a [MAIN] farming, but if not farming then it'll leave us on four temporary economy, which seems like a fine shield to help our civilization weather any temporary economy damage.
-Mine: 10 - 3 = 7
-Temple: 7 - 6 = 1
-Wall: 1- 6 = ( -5)
-Elders Quest: ( -5) + 1 = ( -4)
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: ( -4) - 1 = ( -5)
-Temple: 7 - 6 = 1
-Wall: 1- 6 = ( -5)
-Elders Quest: ( -5) + 1 = ( -4)
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: ( -4) - 1 = ( -5)
The provinces are then forced to do one economy generation as they're unable to cause negative stats and Oshha has stated that they choose farming. If they won't put us into negative, they perform their policy.
-Province farming: ( -5) + 5 = 0
-Province farming: 0 + 5 = 5
-Province farming: 0 + 5 = 5
They may not do two farming as that may lead to a [MAIN] farming, but if not farming then it'll leave us on four temporary economy, which seems like a fine shield to help our civilization weather any temporary economy damage.
Current Value: 3
-Maradysh Integration: 3 - 1 = 2
-Temple: 3 - 1 = 1
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: 1 + 2 = 3
-Stone Wall: 3 - 2 = 1
-Temple: 3 - 1 = 1
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: 1 + 2 = 3
-Stone Wall: 3 - 2 = 1
Current Value: 2, with a permanent value of 1.
Oshha has said that one of the requirements for a golden age is to have two stats above the permanent values. Our diplo is so insanely high that it's going to be fine, and this vote will lead to our culture being high enough.
-Maradysh Integration: 2 - 1 = 1
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: 1 + 2 = 3
-Free veneration from faction quest to build the temple: 1 + 2 = 3
Oshha has said that one of the requirements for a golden age is to have two stats above the permanent values. Our diplo is so insanely high that it's going to be fine, and this vote will lead to our culture being high enough.
All in all this actually seems like a pretty solid vote. It forces our province diplomacy to go away, which is a good and a bad thing, but it also constructs a ton of infrastructure. There's no studying or exploration, which is disappointing, but it does manage to get a lot done in a single vote. The one thing that bothers me is the narrative effects of sorta gaming our provinces like this.
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- Location
- 'Straya mate.
That would leave us on zero temporary economy, which means that any random event would send us into a negative, which negates the point of aiming for a Golden Age as well as causing our civ potentially fatal damage when combined with the threat of the Forluc.
EDIT: Also I'll stop posting this much because... yeah it's pretty obnoxious of me. Sorry.
[X] [Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [MAIN] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] Venerate the Goddesses
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [MAIN] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] Study Magic.
[X] [SEC] Venerate the Goddesses
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
- Location
- Queensland, Australia
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] More Fishing
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] More Fishing
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Vote is still open.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 393 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 9803-9867]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
Task: Bronze
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 17
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 16
[X][Bronze] Only close allies. (+1 Temp Diplo, Completes Warriors faction quest,)
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
No. of Votes: 24
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 23
[X][Sec] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 15
[X][SEC] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 11
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 10
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
No. of Votes: 7
[X][SEC] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 6
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
No. of Votes: 6
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
No. of Votes: 4
[X][SEC] Study Metal.
No. of Votes: 3
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Western Coast)
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlander Tribes)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Colryd Kingdom)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Caradysh)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Build Palisade = (Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 9
[X][Main] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 3
[X][Main] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 2
[X][MAIN] Study Magic x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 35
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 393 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 9803-9867]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
Task: Bronze
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
No. of Votes: 17
No. of Votes: 16
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
No. of Votes: 24
No. of Votes: 23
No. of Votes: 15
No. of Votes: 11
No. of Votes: 10
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
No. of Votes: 7
[X][SEC] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 6
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
No. of Votes: 6
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
No. of Votes: 4
[X][SEC] Study Metal.
No. of Votes: 3
[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Western Coast)
No. of Votes: 2
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlander Tribes)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Colryd Kingdom)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Caradysh)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Coltyre Confederation)
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
[X][SEC] Build Palisade = (Greenbay)
No. of Votes: 1
——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] Study Magic.
No. of Votes: 9
[X][Main] More Fishing
No. of Votes: 3
[X][Main] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 2
[X][MAIN] Study Magic x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Venerate the Goddesses x2
No. of Votes: 1
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 35
- Location
- Sydney
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X][MAIN] Train Sacred Warriors
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunset Mountains)
[X][Bronze] Only allies. (+2 Temp Diplo, +1 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
[X][SEC] Integrate Subordinate = Maradysh
[X] [SEC] Develop Mine = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X][SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
[X][SEC] Stone Wall
KlinkerKing
Man bites dog?
- Location
- The Lion's Den
[X][Bronze] Everyone. (+1 Diplo, +2 Temp Diplo, +2 Prestige, Completes Warriors faction quest, Completes Elders faction quest)
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[X] [SEC] Study Magic
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
Looks good.
[X] [SEC] Integrate Subordinate = (Maradysh)
[X] [SEC] Study Magic
[X] [SEC] More Fishing.
[X] [SEC] Build Temple = (Greenbay)
Looks good.