DarkKing98
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People typically hype clones as these awesome broken things.
They really aren't. Sensory overload, Chakra division, time you can keep them active. All that combined makes them really bad.
Tohsaka as an Uchiha Quest (Naruto/FSN)
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They really aren't. Sensory overload, Chakra division, time you can keep them active. All that combined makes them really bad.
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@AoMythology does this do anything, or is it a placeholder for future development?
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[X]Shisui
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[X]Accept
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[X]Itachi
[X]Shisui
[X]Papa
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Confession: On the combat side I'm already trying to guess whether water clones can be made out of sulfuric acid.
Eh, Tohsaka is a prodigy of all... 5 elements? 7? We'll start mixing and matching and hiding nasty surprises like that when the time comes.
(Mixing in lightning to make the clones electrically charges sounds more practical anyway.)
GDI I rally against theorycrafting all the time, and here you guys got me doing it too. I suppose everyone needs their guilty pleasures.
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AoMythology
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It doesn't do anything in combat other than keep us calm - it's a personality Trait, not one of bonuses.
To be exact, a second personality to be used when needed - probably the 'model student' in the Academy.
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Getting them wet via either water technique or a water clone they splatter, then electrocute them via lightning technique or clone
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To be honest, the main reason I'm opposed to being a clone ninja is that Naruto already has a clone ninja, so I'm not personally all that interested in being a clone ninja.
Since our primary skill is that we're talented in all the elements, I'm more interested in rapid-fire mixing and matching and seeing what shakes out. I'm kind of hoping to spec us out to eventually become a Beyond Human ninjutsu master, and eventually recreate kaleidoscope magic to pull infinite amounts of mana from parallel worlds and avoid attacks by not being in the same dimensional plane as the attacks. In the short(er) term, I'm hoping to be good enough at ninjutsu that we can just invent ninjutsu on the fly simply because they're similar to a ninjutsu we've seen someone else do before. My votes in regards to our training reflect those goals, when I'm thinking about training.
Getting them wet via either water technique or a water clone they splatter, then electrocute them via lightning technique or clone
Too inefficient, they could dodge the second technique once they realize what we're up to. Just electrify the water clone. We're planning to have the talent for it.
That would be hilarious during a spar. Naruto goes to punch us in the gut, then our clone bursts into water and electrocution as we casually walk in from behind a tree or something and act all aloof and cool.
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AoMythology
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...Rin may or may not learn the Shadow Clone, but she won't have the sheer capability with it that Naruto does without being a Jinchuuriki.
AoMythology
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I'm seeing no voting activity; I might end the vote slightly earlier. (~4 hours rather than ~5.5)
(Fortunately, I had no work yesterday or today. So, I can put more time into this.)
(Fortunately, I had no work yesterday or today. So, I can put more time into this.)
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I'd hope not, that would be broken as hell, especially when combined with someone with Rin's demonstrated talents with elemental jutsu and the sharingan eyes to shore up her taijutsu. Besides, it doesn't sound like a very Rin way of fighting if you ask me, throwing hundreds of clones at a problem and hoping something sticks. Besides, Rin strikes me as more the kind of person who would create Tsubame Gaeshi with 3 clones, one for each strike of the attack. You know, doing impossible magics by cheating.
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I want to try and invent a move that makes use of all 5 elements simultaneously, each one feeding off of the element it's strong against and into the element that it's weak against. I'd especially like to make it a buff of some kind - armour or something.
DarkKing98
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Reminder to everyone that Shadow Clones evenly split your Chakra. So they are a VERY poor choice for combat. Especially if we intend to be a Ninjutsu Specialist.
AoMythology
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Even if Rin had Naruto's Chakra reserve, along with the boost from the Kyuubi, she wouldn't fight that way; I'd even veto write-ins to that effect.
@DarkKing98: One clone, or maybe two, are fine even for a ninjutsu specialist, as long as they have high Chakra reserves.
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Sounds like fun. Can we make the move make sense?
As in, a move that needs all five elements not just because that would be cool, but because each element is an integral part of the technique.
Like for example, a 3 element move might be those electrical water clones I suggested. Water to make the clone, electricity to give it a charge, and earth to insulate it so it keeps its charge when it touches the ground? Maybe we could add fire to make it explode into steam when it bursts, and wind to carry the electrified steam away when it explodes?
Meh, I rally against theorycrafting, but I'm just as guilty as the next guy.
DarkKing98
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If we want to combine elemental Jutsu we'd probably need Clones that can do Jutsu. And then time it perfectly.
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Yeah it would clearly have to make sense, but you could twist it a bit to fit on the basis that in Naruto metaphysics there's a definite cycle to the elements, with them feeding off of each other.
Only if you're making combination attacks out of separate jutsu, rather than a single jutsu that uses multiple elements. And even then, I'm pretty sure masters can do two at once if they aren't too high-level.
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DarkKing98
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Have we ever seen a Ninjutsu that uses two elements at once that WASN'T a bloodline?
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Uchiha. The Sharingan makes that surprisingly easy if we get the timing down even once.
Uchihas are cheaters. They see someone do something one time, and they can copy it perfectly every single time. They're like the guy at D&D who says "You know that thing Luke Skywalker/Indiana Jones/James Bond did that one time? I'm doing that." And then rolls a natural 20. And then proceeds to do the thing over and over.
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DarkKing98
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Only reason I don't argue collaboration Jutsu as to time consuming to make is due to Sharigan.
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I think you're getting confused between Bloodlines like Lava Release etc. - which makes a new element from two basic elements - and using two separate elements at once, e.g. rock and fire. I don't see any reason why we couldn't do the latter?
AoMythology
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Only the Third Hokage can do something with two elements at the same time, and that's extra-canon (anime-only) or maybe fanon. It might be canon to this Quest, though.
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you don't get a name like Shinobi no Kami without doing a thing or two others thought impossible
DarkKing98
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So basically become 'Best in History' with Ninjutsu like Shisui is with Genjutsu?
AoMythology
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Hopefully, 'best in village' will be enough, considering Hiruzen did manage two ninjutsu of different elements at the same time (it's canon in this Quest. I've decided).
DarkKing98
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Doesn't 'Best in village' change though with the death of the Third?