In a Cultivation World with a Cheat System (Xianxia inspired quest).

Quick note incase it wasn't clear: the primordial Qi issue only matters for when the MC is training the LUB art. This is because the Qi is needed to properly work the technique and make the improvements to the body. While he's in a fight or training other techniques, the MC can use regular old Qi like everyone else.

I don't think that will matter much. Using items to increase cultivation is just normal. Plus, I think Kolar would have told us if there were side effects.

As long as it follows the rule of 'must be pure qi', there's no side effects. Later on, there will be the whole 'don't eat an energy field larger than your head' thing but right now, we're working on a small enough scale that you'd need like dozens of the crystals to OD on Qi.

From what I understand, the Formation repels impure elemental Qi present in the environment away from us while the Qi Crystals are gonna be our source of Qi. So even if in the short term just getting Crystals may give us more benefits, it still seems smart to get the Formation in order to make sure that our Cultivation Base is formed of only Pimordial Qi and to make cultivating Universal Body easier for Zhang Tian.

Also the crystals are 1 time use each whereas the formation will last for the entire month. Using both doesn't hurt anything amd the effects stack, so the xp from the crystals gets that 5% boost from the formation.

Generally speaking:
The punching technique makes most weapons pointless, when sufficiently developed.
The body technique makes most armor pointless, when sufficiently developed.
So maybe ask for utility items?

Don't forget that the technique is enegry intensive. At best, you might get to use it twice in a fight depending on whether the enemy gives you the time to charge up. Also one of those times is assuming you charge up before the fight starts. A weaker technique with less charge time wont hurt you guys, and even if you dont train it past the basics, it'll still deal more damage than a normal hit.

That said, the palm art at full mastery is devestating to anything around your level. One hit may be all you need.

Also armor effects can stack. Using armor will apply a small shield value that needs to be broken through before your body's defense is even added to the equation. Defensive techniques can stack on that too, using your durability as a base to make you even tougher. None of these cost you much atm so may as well consider them.

Again, you're not limited to just a single item from the supply vote.

I really think prayer beads would make a good utility item. Besides being on theme it also shores up a gap in our defenses. Assuming we build up a tough body we will be most vulnerable to exotic spirit drain and poison style attacks.
Hey Maragas have you thought about adding Sigil's supply list to your plan? It wouldn't have any downsides.

No need to worry about any supply votes. I'm just going to cobble them all together and give out the items. Any item in a supply vote will get counted no matter which plan wins.

Kind of odd that we're using chi when before we were describing peoples' height in feet.

Yeah, I need to go back and fix that. I want to use the chi measurement and stuff in this but sometimes it slips the mind while writing. Too used to using western measurements.
 
[X] Plan Full-Metal

Can someone tell me what the hell prayer beads are thought to provide? Like, I know people pray w/ them and buddhist magic that kills yao or whatever butttt
 
Apropos of nothing, but depending on how it's spelled (I assume the more common 张), the surname Zhang is essentially the Chinese equivalent of the last name "Archer." The traditional origin for it is that the fifth son of the Yellow Emperor had a son named Hui, who saw a constellation in the stars that inspired him to create the first bow and arrow. He was given a new surname to mark this accomplishment: the characters 弓 (bow) and 长 ("to open" or "to spread") were combined, making a new character that described the action of drawing a bow.

So if anyone really wants to specialize in archer later, well, we've got the surname for it.

The less common spelling, 章, is also tied to an ancient legend, this one regarding the mythical Yan Di (a title meaning "Flame Emperor"); the holders of this title are supposed to have been the descendants of Shennong, my personal favorite of the Three Sovereigns. But that's neither here nor there.
 
[X] Fist to the Finish Line
-[X][shop] 7 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
-[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
 
What's a plan that gets both lots of crystals and the Formation?
Void Stalker's math seems convincing that 2 crystals + 1 plate is the best option for rapid cultivation. It still costs 140/200 points, though, which leaves 50 to buy the nugget of meteoric copper but nothing better.

This is regrettable, as I find Sigil's argument that the end result (and thus quality while progressing) is more important than the speed to be of merit. And, notably, Void Stalker's math indicates that the 140 points spent on the most optimal choice gives us a mere 100 or so xp above what we would otherwise get. This hardly seems worth 140 shop points, to me.

Thus, I would urge you to vote for Sigil's plan, which gets a large number of supplies and seeks a focus for our cultivation technique superior to those currently on offer.

Training Dice and Bonuses-
3d10
2d20 (bonus dice)
Resolute Soul +5% XP to training and ability use

Possible buys:
Primordial Qi Crystal- +1d20/crystal (one roll?)
Formation Plate: Elemental Dispursing Trap +5% to LUB training (30 days)

Month is 30 days

Avg training per day
3d10 (5.5 each) + 2d20 (10.5 each) or 37.5 per day * 1.05 (resolute soul) 39.375 XP
w formation plate (assuming additive) 37.5*1.1 41.25 XP
w Qi Crystal 48 * 1.05 50.4 XP
w Qi Crystral and formation 48 * 1.1 52.8 XP

Base training for the month:
Base bonuses 1,181.25 XP
5 Qi Crystals 1,236.375 XP
Formation Plate 1,237.5 XP
7 Qi Crystals 1,258.425 XP
Formation Plate and 2 Qi Crystals 1,260.6 XP

So Formation Plate has a slight edge in XP on average and that will be boosted the more we have additional training effects. If the Formation is multiplcative with resolute soul then the edge is bigger (1,240.3125 and 1,263.465)

The crystals that we can afford are only going to raise our training speed by roughly 20% even if we spend all our points on them (90d10 averages 495XP, 10d20 averages 105XP), A better baseline material for the Lesser Universal body seems a better deal than getting 36 days worth of training done in 30 days.

The below plan includes the supply items others have mentioned above, and focuses our Points, all our Points, on upgrading the Lesser Universal Body base material as much as possible. System Items and Techniques can be hard to explain at this point, but anything that happens to our body can be blamed on the fish medicine.

[X] Plan Full-Metal
-[X][supply] Prayer Beads
-[X][supply] Medical supplies
-[X][supply] Light Armour
-[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
-[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
-[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
 
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[X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
-[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
-[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
-[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
-[X][supply] Armor
-[X][supply] Prayer Beads
-[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
-[X][supply] Medical Supplies
-[X][supply] Beast Cores
 
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[X] Plan WHAT IS THIS PLAN CALLED?
[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
...

Just do [X] The Froggy Ninja.

He's voting for what you have above + armor.

Or here, copy-paste this.
[] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
-[][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
-[][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
-[][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
-[][supply] Armor
-[][supply] Prayer Beads
-[][supply] Knuckle Dusters
-[][supply] Medical Supplies
-[][supply] Beast Cores


The plan does what you asked for, and takes advantage of the supply option we've been given on top of that.
 
...

Just do [X] The Froggy Ninja.

He's voting for what you have above + armor.

Or here, copy-paste this.
[] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
-[][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
-[][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
-[][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
-[][supply] Armor
-[][supply] Prayer Beads
-[][supply] Knuckle Dusters
-[][supply] Medical Supplies
-[][supply] Beast Cores


The plan does what you asked for, and takes advantage of the supply option we've been given on top of that.
QM said he's just going to do all the supply options anyways.
That being said, edit'd.
 
can't

difficult technique

Thx, fixed.

Apropos of nothing, but depending on how it's spelled (I assume the more common 张), the surname Zhang is essentially the Chinese equivalent of the last name "Archer." The traditional origin for it is that the fifth son of the Yellow Emperor had a son named Hui, who saw a constellation in the stars that inspired him to create the first bow and arrow. He was given a new surname to mark this accomplishment: the characters 弓 (bow) and 长 ("to open" or "to spread") were combined, making a new character that described the action of drawing a bow.

So if anyone really wants to specialize in archer later, well, we've got the surname for it.

The less common spelling, 章, is also tied to an ancient legend, this one regarding the mythical Yan Di (a title meaning "Flame Emperor"); the holders of this title are supposed to have been the descendants of Shennong, my personal favorite of the Three Sovereigns. But that's neither here nor there.

That's the meaning that showed up when I checked lol. I mostly went with it because two of favorite characters are Zhang Ye (I'm really a superstar) and Zhang Xuan (Library of Heavens Path).

It still costs 140/200 points, though, which leaves 50 to buy the nugget of meteoric copper but nothing better.
The plan does what you asked for, and takes advantage of the supply option we've been given on top of that.

Asking for beast cores to trade for points was a really good vote, I honestly didn't think of that when I left the option open. I like that so I'll be giving you guys ~200 to 500 points in return for that. You might actually come out ahead this way.

Edit: thats for the first month too. If you request it, some clan minons could easily be sent out to collect some for the next month. I didn't think of a way to block that so you guys can take advantage of it.
 
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@plotvitalnpc For publicity's sake, I did a different variation of the vote (that says "buy the best possible cultivation material" in place of the copper & asks that our clan send out people to collect even more beast cores in addition to the existing beast core supply thing) on my post right below the most recent threadmark. Would you please do me the favor of voting for the title of the plan w/o the stuff below it?
 
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[X] Plan Full-Metal

Purely because he wants to use extra points for a rare metal to cultivate on.
Adhoc vote count started by Sir LagsAlot on Mar 31, 2018 at 7:10 PM, finished with 66 posts and 24 votes.

  • [X]Plan Basic Necessities
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] An Ingot of Black Spirit Steel
    [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
    [X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] The best material suitable for cultivation that we can afford after spending 140 points on the above and selling the beast cores for more.
    -[X][supply] Armor
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores
    -[X][supply] Ask that the clan send out disciples to acquire even more Beast Cores, indicating that they are extremely helpful for our progression.
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X][supply] Armor
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 1 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X]Plan Basic Necessities
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] An Ingot of Black Spirit Steel
    [X] Plan Ominous Chanting
    -[X][shop] 7 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] A set of prayer beads that offers some protection against status debuffs and/or evil spirits
    [X] Fist to the Finish Line
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
    [X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] Armor
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores
    [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)

Adhoc vote count started by Sir LagsAlot on Apr 2, 2018 at 1:28 PM, finished with 88 posts and 25 votes.

  • [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
    [X]Plan Basic Necessities
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] An Ingot of Black Spirit Steel
    [X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] The best material suitable for cultivation that we can afford after spending 140 points on the above and selling the beast cores for more.
    -[X][supply] Armor
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores
    -[X][supply] Ask that the clan send out disciples to acquire even more Beast Cores, indicating that they are extremely helpful for our progression.
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][supply] Armor
    [X][shop] 1 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X] Plan Ominous Chanting
    -[X][shop] 7 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] A set of prayer beads that offers some protection against status debuffs and/or evil spirits
    [X] Fist to the Finish Line
    [X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] Armor
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores
 
Inserted tally
Adhoc vote count started by Skelm on Mar 31, 2018 at 6:21 AM, finished with 50 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X]Plan Basic Necessities
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] An Ingot of Black Spirit Steel
    [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
    [X] Fist to the Finish Line
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X][supply] Armor
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 1 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X]Plan Basic Necessities
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] An Ingot of Black Spirit Steel
    [X] Plan Ominous Chanting
    -[X][shop] 7 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] A set of prayer beads that offers some protection against status debuffs and/or evil spirits
    [X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    [X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    [X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    [X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    [X] Plan Full-Metal
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Light Armour
    -[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
    -[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)
    [X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely
    -[X][shop] 1 Formation Plate(s).
    -[X][shop] 2 Primordial Qi Crystal(s).
    -[X][shop] Nugget of Metioric Copper.
    -[X][supply] Armor
    -[X][supply] Prayer Beads
    -[X][supply] Knuckle Dusters
    -[X][supply] Medical Supplies
    -[X][supply] Beast Cores
 
Anyone else think it's really fitting that we're going to be using a space rock to cultivate with a method named after the universe?
 
[X] Plan Full-Metal
-[X][supply] Prayer Beads
-[X][supply] Medical Supplies
-[X][supply] Light Armour
-[X][supply] An item that enhances our punching power
-[X][supply] Beast Cores (immediately sell for points)
-[X][shop] Find a suitable meteoric Ore worth all as many of our points as possible (Maybe the shop has high-grade meteoric copper?)

eh, why not? we can get the other stuff later
 
I have that in my library but I haven't gotten around to reading past the first chapter since I was put off by the unreliable narration and how it he system said it was rewriting the world. Is it good?
[X] Plan Your Frog Soup Wisely

It has it's ups and downs but it's one of the few where I bother to wait for daily releases. A really good read with lots of funny parts, though you shouldn't be aftaid to skip a chapter every now and then when it gets repetitive.
 
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