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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%
  • Total voters
    850
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Wait. The daughter of an Emperor is a Princess, right? I've got no idea what, if it exists, the Emperor's line of succession is, (Sanguinius? One of the Sensei?) but technically, Serras is Princess of Mankind.

And to the best of my knowledge, that is our only formal title.
 
Wind-Up Citrus said:
He kind of did. We just have to make sure our current Minor Action/other actions plan's personality crystals are what he'll be okay with. He did say he'll smite the god if it fails inspection.
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i can still see us player/serra start to fight him if he decides that is the way to go is to kill it, ether because he rolls really badly there or the check is not in our favor.

It would set us up against the empire (and likely most of our siblings), but it would also be an fight that he could lose. If the god lives he will likely not be able to create the high level crystals anymore and we can, we would also have the webway on ourside and an likely quite large empire at that point.

Really hope it doesn´t come to that, but i would likely go against big e if it comes down to him trying to kill it, even if it is very clearly on ourside.

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[x] Plan Why Serras Should Not(?) Drink Recaff
its a good plan and has pretty much everything i want.
 
Skjadir said:
i can still see us player/serra start to fight him if he decides that is the way to go is to kill it, ether because he rolls really badly there or the check is not in our favor.

It would set us up against the empire (and likely most of our siblings), but it would also be an fight that he could lose. If the god lives he will likely not be able to create the high level crystals anymore and we can, we would also have the webway on ourside and an likely quite large empire at that point.

Really hope it doesn´t come to that, but i would likely go against big e if it comes down to him trying to kill it, even if it is very clearly on ourside.

Also
[x] Plan Why Serras Should Not(?) Drink Recaff
its a good plan and has pretty much everything i want.
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...I don't know about you but I'd rip out the Crystal god's heart and present it to the Emperor on a gold platter if it meant keeping our relationship with him. Serras is most likely of the same mind set here as well due to her flaw so no matter what I don't think were going to go against the Emperor here.
 
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Omegastar said:
do we need to do all the crystals at once instead of doing a forth at a time?
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I see the process as doing the crystals one at a time like a lego block building project with the emperor watching every step of the way constantly poking at the lego tower being built. then when the god wakes up after a certain amount of crystals we keep adding one at a time while the emperor keeps grilling
 
ExNihilo said:
Wait. The daughter of an Emperor is a Princess, right? I've got no idea what, if it exists, the Emperor's line of succession is, (Sanguinius? One of the Sensei?) but technically, Serras is Princess of Mankind.

And to the best of my knowledge, that is our only formal title.
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That's ridiculous. All my knowledge of videogames says that princesses aren't allowed to be useful. And we are incredibly helpful.
 
ExNihilo said:
Wait. The daughter of an Emperor is a Princess, right? I've got no idea what, if it exists, the Emperor's line of succession is, (Sanguinius? One of the Sensei?) but technically, Serras is Princess of Mankind.

And to the best of my knowledge, that is our only formal title.
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Colloquially yes, but going by the strict meaning of the word a prince is a sovereign ruler who isn't a king or emperor. It's equivalent to a duke. And of course, a princess is just a female prince.

(The heirs to monarchies besides the English monarchy generally have titles that do not mean "prince", for example the Habsburg heir was a Grand Duke.)

But by either definition, Serras is currently the demigoddess princess of Bastion.

fasquardon
 
You know i wonder if the emperor will be mollified by the fact that we basically super teched up all naval tech to offset the number of crystals we did?

also @ilbgar123 would it have been worse if the emperor failed the notice roll?
 
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Sir LagsAlot said:
...I don't know about you but I'd rip out the Crystal god's heart and present it to the Emperor on a gold platter if it meant keeping our relationship with him. Serras is most likely of the same mind set here as well due to her flaw so no matter what I don't think were going to go against the Emperor here.
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I don´t really care for him and my view on him might be tainted by the fuck show that is 40k in general.

For Serra not sure it is hard to get a view on her and what she might do on her own apart from trying to help all people and not just humans.
If Emps out of her view with no explanation and/or reason she can see trys to murder the Crystal god i can see her standing in his "way".
Emps doesn´t seem to big on giveing reasons or explanations why he does things.
Even if she doesn´t stop him i can see that being really bad for her trust in him, if he doesn´t say anything afterwards even if she asks him / finds his anwers lacking for some reason.

I honestly can see Serra going against emps as their view on thing can clash quite hard (not chaos), when you get down to the detail and i don´t see her backing down on these in the long run.
 
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Wind-Up Citrus said:
It should. We tech up super fast now.
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Serras: "You think this is fast? This isn't even my final form!"
*Goes Super Primarch*
Me: "Holy s*** her stats are over 9000!"
Also Me: "This is going to make calculating her checks absolute hell isn't it."

On a more serious note we do actually have quite a bit more exponential growth for our actions economy coming up soon so we ain't seen nothing yet.
 
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Skjadir said:
I don´t really care for him and my view on him might be tainted by the fuck show that is 40k in general.

For Serra not sure it is hard to get a view on her and what she might do on her own apart from trying to help all peopel and not just humans.
If Emps out of her view with no explanation and/or reason she can see trys to murder the Crystal god i can see her standing in his "way".
Emps doesn´t seem to big on giveing reasons or explanations why he does things.
Even if she doesn´t stop him i can see that being really bad for her trust in him, if he doesn´t say anything afterwards even if she asks him / finds his anwers lacking for some reason.

I honestly can see Serra going against emps as their view on thing can clash quite hard (not chaos), when you get down to the detail and i don´t see her backing down on these in the long run.
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Serras is considerably more compassionate and for the common human and alien than the Emperor. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if their relationship doesn't become considerably strained once the Crusade starts.
Sir LagsAlot said:
Serras: "You think this is fast? This isn't even my final form!"
*Goes Super Primarch*
Me: "Holy s*** her stats are over 9000!"
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Honestly we might actually need to make a tutorial on how to calculate all these checks.
 
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Sir LagsAlot said:
Serras: "You think this is fast? This isn't even my final form!"
*Goes Super Primarch*
Me: "Holy s*** her stats are over 9000!"
Also Me: "This is going to make calculating her checks absolute hell isn't it."

On a more serious not we do actually have quite a bit more exponential growth for our actions economy coming up soon so we ain't seen nothing yet.
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*Looks at the learning stat training actions, hopes for crits*
 
Thats harsh of the Big E. Here hoping our attempts to guard it from the 4 don't back fire with it managing to slip away if the New born diety has the temerity to want faith. Having it slip away and be hostile to dad would be bad. We might have a civil war.

It runs and uplifts planets far away from us and rages a shadow war using all the stuff it learns from us a different kinda of benevolent.

Bonus points if it only turns off our stuff if we are trying to kill her.

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Larekko12 said:
Thats harsh of the Big E. Here hoping our attempts to guard it from the 4 don't back fire with it managing to slip away if the New born diety has the temerity to want faith. Having it slip away and be hostile to dad would be bad. We might have a civil war.

It runs and uplifts planets far away from us and rages a shadow war using all the stuff it learns from us a different kinda of benevolent.

Bonus points if it only turns off our stuff if we are trying to kill her.

[x] Plan Why Serras Should Not(?) Drink Recaff
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No worries, the crystals we're gonna make should keep it wise and smart enough to know not to go find/make followers.
 
ilbgar123 said:
It was unlikely she could do anything to hurt him from so far away
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Dude... she just makes and operates an equipment forging gadget with a reactor that could blow half a city block. Now think about what if she changes that into a bomb that could wipe out this city and maybe 4 cities next to it instead.

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Skjadir said:
I don´t really care for him and my view on him might be tainted by the fuck show that is 40k in general.

For Serra not sure it is hard to get a view on her and what she might do on her own apart from trying to help all people and not just humans.
If Emps out of her view with no explanation and/or reason she can see trys to murder the Crystal god i can see her standing in his "way".
Emps doesn´t seem to big on giveing reasons or explanations why he does things.
Even if she doesn´t stop him i can see that being really bad for her trust in him, if he doesn´t say anything afterwards even if she asks him / finds his anwers lacking for some reason.

I honestly can see Serra going against emps as their view on thing can clash quite hard (not chaos), when you get down to the detail and i don´t see her backing down on these in the long run.
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Wind-Up Citrus said:
Serras is considerably more compassionate and for the common human and alien than the Emperor. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if their relationship doesn't become considerably strained once the Crusade starts.
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Serras noted major flaw of gluttony manifests in liking to spend a ton of time with those she loves so it'd make more sense for her to be extremely close to those she holds an SL with and thus value them over all most everything else. This is why I think she'd side with the Emperor in the event of him wanting to kill the Crystal god simply because she'd value him so much more then she would the Crystal god who she just met.

Although Serras will most likely require a pragmatic explanation from the Emperor in order to justify his actions any ways but beyond that she'll probably side with him in almost all situations.
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*Looks at the learning stat training actions, hopes for crits*
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...I don't think that's how that works.
 
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Larekko12 said:
But we get to have a personality cult and religion.
Why can't our baby?

What does he want to us off Kaine too?
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Well for starts we don't want followers, they just do it anyways because we're a demigod. We're not actively encouraging it. Our baby is restricted because Dad doesn't want it to have/desire followers because of his anti religion bias. He doesn't want us to kill Khaine, or at least that's not what I got from reading the latest update. Plus it could have been so much stricter like a time delay between each crystal.

EDIT: Checked the update. No mention of Khaine, or killing Eldar gods.
 
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Sir LagsAlot said:
Serras noted major flaw of gluttony manifests in liking to spend a ton of time with those she loves so it'd make more sense for her to be extremely close to those she holds an SL with and thus value them over all most everything else. This is why I think she'd side with the Emperor in the event of him wanting to kill the Crystal god simply because she'd value him so much more then she would the Crystal god who she just met.

Although Serras will most likely require a pragmatic explanation from the Emperor in order to justify his actions any ways but beyond that she'll probably side with him in almost all situations.
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It not just about meeting it the first time, but also her being its "mother" in a sense and that it could massivly help her protect her people in general from chaos in a way that emps simply can´t.
The the ability to deny chaos the ability to create stronger crystals is far stronger then anything that i have seen or heard about emps haveing done while he was alive to keep people safe*.
So i can see her sideing with the new "god" simply out of pragmatism, if she really finds his explanion or reason lacking.
Which i can see looking at his bias *looks at the malus because anti-religion

I really hope that doesn´t happen as we have chaos and orks to worry about.

* that list in general seems to be very short, apart from keep as many people as possible ignorant.


That doesn´t start with what will happen if he trys to touch the eldar, because they workship us.
They are very firmly in the her people part of her mind set and likely could/would be enough to cause her to break away from him and fight him over the issue.
 
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tri2 said:

Survey Actions (x62)
[X] [Survey] (x62)​
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Again, can I suggest the following for some of the Survey actions?

[X] [Survey] Go personally hunting for xenotech/archaeotech caches, relics, ruins, etc. The Bastion will NEED better technology for the upcoming WAAAAAGH, and the ancients AND various long gone xeno civilizations both had some...interesting toys.
 
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