Which of the other starter choices do you want to see interludes from most?

  • Dishonored

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • Legend Of Zelda

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • Shadow Of Mordor

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Preacher

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

    Votes: 8 18.6%
  • Fist Of The North Star

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kill Six Billion Demons

    Votes: 12 27.9%
  • The Zombie Knight

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mob Psycho 100

    Votes: 2 4.7%
  • Author's Choice

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
Additionally, Jaune doesn't KNOW Ironwood, certainly not well enough to identify him from this. So even if it is him, that's an insane amount of metagaming and not a valid argument.
With Weiss, she's a famous person, roughly Jaune's age, who Jaune recognized, and who was clearly assuming Jaune was some kind of burglar-cum-stalker and was reacting to that assumption.
With this individual it's an as-yet-unidentified individual whose first interaction with Jaune was very casually threatening to murder him if he makes a wrong move, and is clearly acting in a calculated fashion.
One of these things is significantly more threatening than the other. This is not a situation where one might make a different decision as to talking based on what the threatener's naughty bits are.
... You realize this entire thing is inline with my argument overall, not against it, yes?
 
Fair point. Honestly the antagonizing him is probably annoying me more than it should, because of two things.
For one, it speaks to a trend in both quest participants and RPG players that I've noticed. Nobody ever wants to play scared. Players always want to "win" every situation, and so they'll do incredibly foolish things out of a weird and misplaced sense of specialness and bravado. And they often get away with it in quests because very few QMs are willing to kill the players for it, as that ends the quest.
For another it's inconsistent. We spilled our guts to Weiss. But now, the shady guy with a gun to our back, who already told us to cut the snark, we lip off to? Why? How on earth is this less scary than that?

Okay yeah, the leading vote actually being about snarking even when the guy warned us not to is one of the most idiotic and dumbass decisions ever made by players and trust me I've seen some really stupid decisions. In fact here is a list I made:

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"Hey let's fight this guy, to kill! He can take it and we were told to go all out in the fight(but nothing was said on killing)" Result didn't win(almost half the votes went to it) but if it had things would have escalated had the vote won and it is hinted that there was a good chnce we could have actually killed the guy.

"Hey lets split the party as we attack this enemy base even though the QM flat out said it was a terrible idea and we could do literally anything else!" Result vote won and word of QM said half our party could have died with what was basically a coin flip and that there blood would have been on the hands or our PC.

"Hey let's try to save this person by trying a completely made up technique that a voter just came up with instead of our already proven reliable technique!" Result vote won and our PC didn't ssave the girl and wound up in a coma, again, while stating that our standard healing technique could have worked.

"Hey lets pump our magic into literally the root of all evil in the world! (this was a write-in) Nothing can possibly go wrong!" Result things went very wrong.

"Hey let's try to make partnership with that guy known OOC to have severe chronic backstabbing disorder (while PC happens to really hate backstabbers) and after he tried to destroy the country of one of our friends just because he seems cool!" Result voters still want to work with the guy.

"Hey let's keep our eldritch powers even though there is most likely going to be severe consequences if we do!" Result the PCs city wound up getting attacked by an army of monsters while making a large part of the population extremely violent.

"Hey lets use our powers to make a deal with a powerful entity for power requiring a sacrifice instead of waiting for permanent power ups which we can do instead but are too impatient!" Result there is now a powerful entity

"Hey let's take our comrades into a battle they are definitely not ready for instead of running away even though we have a good chance of getting away while our people are highly likely to die if we went up against these guys!" Result vote won and we ended losing a few named characters that were close to our PC and the players liked with several questers quitting the quest over the decision.

"Hey lets tell this guy that can destroy cities by himself just by fighting where the person that he absolutely hates and wants to murder is at even though his hatred was a major part of his legend. It'll be absolutely hilarious!" Result PCs best friend winds up dead, the PCs sister is most likely next, a city is about to be destroyed and it's likely two kingdoms are about to go to war.
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Or to add another one:

Players: "Hey we have a gun to our backs and the guy doing it threatened to shoot us if we snark. Let's snark even though the QM outright told us that last time if we tried it we would have gotten literally stabbed through the throat and traumatized!"

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Do people see the issue?
 
Okay yeah, the leading vote actually being about snarking even when the guy warned us not to is one of the most idiotic and dumbass decisions ever made by players and trust me I've seen some really stupid decisions. In fact here is a list I made:

***********************************
"Hey let's fight this guy, to kill! He can take it and we were told to go all out in the fight(but nothing was said on killing)" Result didn't win(almost half the votes went to it) but if it had things would have escalated had the vote won and it is hinted that there was a good chnce we could have actually killed the guy.

"Hey lets split the party as we attack this enemy base even though the QM flat out said it was a terrible idea and we could do literally anything else!" Result vote won and word of QM said half our party could have died with what was basically a coin flip and that there blood would have been on the hands or our PC.

"Hey let's try to save this person by trying a completely made up technique that a voter just came up with instead of our already proven reliable technique!" Result vote won and our PC didn't ssave the girl and wound up in a coma, again, while stating that our standard healing technique could have worked.

"Hey lets pump our magic into literally the root of all evil in the world! (this was a write-in) Nothing can possibly go wrong!" Result things went very wrong.

"Hey let's try to make partnership with that guy known OOC to have severe chronic backstabbing disorder (while PC happens to really hate backstabbers) and after he tried to destroy the country of one of our friends just because he seems cool!" Result voters still want to work with the guy.

"Hey let's keep our eldritch powers even though there is most likely going to be severe consequences if we do!" Result the PCs city wound up getting attacked by an army of monsters while making a large part of the population extremely violent.

"Hey lets use our powers to make a deal with a powerful entity for power requiring a sacrifice instead of waiting for permanent power ups which we can do instead but are too impatient!" Result there is now a powerful entity

"Hey let's take our comrades into a battle they are definitely not ready for instead of running away even though we have a good chance of getting away while our people are highly likely to die if we went up against these guys!" Result vote won and we ended losing a few named characters that were close to our PC and the players liked with several questers quitting the quest over the decision.

"Hey lets tell this guy that can destroy cities by himself just by fighting where the person that he absolutely hates and wants to murder is at even though his hatred was a major part of his legend. It'll be absolutely hilarious!" Result PCs best friend winds up dead, the PCs sister is most likely next, a city is about to be destroyed and it's likely two kingdoms are about to go to war.
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Or to add another one:

Players: "Hey we have a gun to our backs and the guy doing it threatened to shoot us if we snark. Let's snark even though the QM outright told us that last time if we tried it we would have gotten literally stabbed through the throat and traumatized!"

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Do people see the issue?

Remember when I said to try pinging all the voters and try to convince them not to vote for snark? That's still an idea.
In fact, I'm just going to do it.


[X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
Number of voters: 17
@Silversun17, @veekie, @aledeth, @RoninSword, @Axel Fones, @Doctor Elsewhere, @Probably Human,@Cthulu, @Zeromaru2, @z3r0gamer, @Avoozl, @Alitur, @SneakyWalrus, @will408914, @Hellarion, @Nihilo,@Toad

I have STRONG reservations against your choice of vote and ask you at least reconsider it.
Edit: Does this even alert them?
 
While I am in favor of the latest alteration to the "start recording and get ready" plan, I feel like I should remind that it very explicitly doesn't say what Jaune says/in what style he directly responds. Which it probably should.
 
While I am in favor of the latest alteration to the "start recording and get ready" plan, I feel like I should remind that it very explicitly doesn't say what Jaune says/in what style he directly responds. Which it probably should.
That's what I made my vote for, but everyone ignored it.
[X] Record everything for future use.
[X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
[X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
[X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
[X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
[X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
 
In my mind, he asked us to explain ourselves. The fact of the matter is our AI decided to ask another AI out on a date. If he was going to shoot at us for snarkily responding with the truth, he likely would have shot us already for being snarky at him. He knows we have an AI. What is happening is literally information he already has. He shouldn't ask a question he already knows the answer to.

Had he just decided to observe, he likely could have figured out what this meeting was originally without resorting to deaththreats.
 
Okay RedBovine, thanks for the heads up.

@Silversun17 , @veekie , @aledeth , @Ronin , @Axel Fones , @Doctor Elsewhere, @Probably Human ,@Cthulu , @Zeromaru2 , @z3r0gamer , @Avoozl , @Alitur , @SneakyWalrus , @will408914 , @Hellarion , @Nihilo ,@Toad

Please refer to
I suspect that a lot of people voting for the snark option has forgotten that @Prok is a QM with actual consequences for failure.

Remember, had the Penalty Roll and the Social Roll been reversed, we and Weiss would have been mutually traumatized to the point where we would have permanently lost her as a social link unless we'd ended up as teammates.

We have a gun pointed at us, please don't treat the situation as a joke.

A man with a gun pointed at our heart just told us to cut the snark.
So what does everybody do?
Try to snark more.
I believe I should clarify that I'm talking about the overwhelmingly popular "My AI asked your AI on a date" and "You won't shoot me" options.
Recording the conversation is smart. Very smart. Surreptitiously prepping Turn() if it's possible to do so stealthily is also very smart. Calling the family, maybe a good call maybe not, depending on if they panic and distract us at a critical moment. Maybe call our sister, not mom and dad.
Lipping off like a lot of people want to do? Not so smart.

Okay yeah, the leading vote actually being about snarking even when the guy warned us not to is one of the most idiotic and dumbass decisions ever made by players and trust me I've seen some really stupid decisions. In fact here is a list I made:

***********************************
"Hey let's fight this guy, to kill! He can take it and we were told to go all out in the fight(but nothing was said on killing)" Result didn't win(almost half the votes went to it) but if it had things would have escalated had the vote won and it is hinted that there was a good chnce we could have actually killed the guy.

"Hey lets split the party as we attack this enemy base even though the QM flat out said it was a terrible idea and we could do literally anything else!" Result vote won and word of QM said half our party could have died with what was basically a coin flip and that there blood would have been on the hands or our PC.

"Hey let's try to save this person by trying a completely made up technique that a voter just came up with instead of our already proven reliable technique!" Result vote won and our PC didn't ssave the girl and wound up in a coma, again, while stating that our standard healing technique could have worked.

"Hey lets pump our magic into literally the root of all evil in the world! (this was a write-in) Nothing can possibly go wrong!" Result things went very wrong.

"Hey let's try to make partnership with that guy known OOC to have severe chronic backstabbing disorder (while PC happens to really hate backstabbers) and after he tried to destroy the country of one of our friends just because he seems cool!" Result voters still want to work with the guy.

"Hey let's keep our eldritch powers even though there is most likely going to be severe consequences if we do!" Result the PCs city wound up getting attacked by an army of monsters while making a large part of the population extremely violent.

"Hey lets use our powers to make a deal with a powerful entity for power requiring a sacrifice instead of waiting for permanent power ups which we can do instead but are too impatient!" Result there is now a powerful entity

"Hey let's take our comrades into a battle they are definitely not ready for instead of running away even though we have a good chance of getting away while our people are highly likely to die if we went up against these guys!" Result vote won and we ended losing a few named characters that were close to our PC and the players liked with several questers quitting the quest over the decision.

"Hey lets tell this guy that can destroy cities by himself just by fighting where the person that he absolutely hates and wants to murder is at even though his hatred was a major part of his legend. It'll be absolutely hilarious!" Result PCs best friend winds up dead, the PCs sister is most likely next, a city is about to be destroyed and it's likely two kingdoms are about to go to war.
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Or to add another one:

Players: "Hey we have a gun to our backs and the guy doing it threatened to shoot us if we snark. Let's snark even though the QM outright told us that last time if we tried it we would have gotten literally stabbed through the throat and traumatized!"

****************************

Do people see the issue?

Remember when I said to try pinging all the voters and try to convince them not to vote for snark? That's still an idea.
In fact, I'm just going to do it.


[X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
Number of voters: 17
@Silversun17, @veekie, @aledeth, @RoninSword, @Axel Fones, @Doctor Elsewhere, @Probably Human,@Cthulu, @Zeromaru2, @z3r0gamer, @Avoozl, @Alitur, @SneakyWalrus, @will408914, @Hellarion, @Nihilo,@Toad

I have STRONG reservations against your choice of vote and ask you at least reconsider it.
Edit: Does this even alert them?
In my mind, he asked us to explain ourselves. The fact of the matter is our AI decided to ask another AI out on a date. If he was going to shoot at us for snarkily responding with the truth, he likely would have shot us already for being snarky at him. He knows we have an AI. What is happening is literally information he already has. He shouldn't ask a question he already knows the answer to.

Had he just decided to observe, he likely could have figured out what this meeting was originally without resorting to deaththreats.

All I'm asking is if you're absolutely sure you want to do this. The fate of the quest may depend on it.

Did I do it this time?
 
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In my mind, he asked us to explain ourselves. The fact of the matter is our AI decided to ask another AI out on a date. If he was going to shoot at us for snarkily responding with the truth, he likely would have shot us already for being snarky at him. He knows we have an AI. What is happening is literally information he already has. He shouldn't ask a question he already knows the answer to.

Had he just decided to observe, he likely could have figured out what this meeting was originally without resorting to deaththreats.

You know there is actually nothing stopping us from saying that we created an AI that wanted to meet another AI. In fact:

[X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here.

Pretty much explains things without the snark and appearing like we aren't making shit up by not being serious.
Adhoc vote count started by Red Bovine on Feb 9, 2018 at 5:27 PM, finished with 2246 posts and 37 votes.

  • [X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
    [X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here.
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    -[X] You have connections... Fine, you have a connection, so put it to use. Have Blue message Weiss to explain that you're being held up by an Atlas goon and have her call you. Hand over your scroll and hope the heiress of the SDC has enough pull with whoever this guy works for.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    -[x] Call the cops surreptitiously.
    --[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    [X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    -[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    -[x] Be ready to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
    --[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
    [X] "Well obviously it's my AI who asked your AI out on a date. I mean really it should be obvious but maybe I'm expecting to much from people. The only reason I'm here besides being the chaperone is that I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying, but hey now that your here mabye I can have some pleasant company once you stop being a complete and utter DICK!"
    [x] Write-in: DANGER MODE TURN ACTIVATE
    -[x] Jaunt Behind who ever the fuck this is. Scan him. He just lost privacy privileges.
    --[x]Ready to ()Spiral a bitch and look for any other dickheads backing this guy up.
    ---[X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
    ----[x] THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT BLUE!
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    -[X] You have connections... Fine, you have a connection, so put it to use. Have Blue message Weiss to explain that you're being held up by an Atlas goon and have her call you. Hand over your scroll and hope the heiress of the SDC has enough pull with whoever this guy works for.
    -[X] Scan him. He just lost his Privacy Privileges.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    [X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
    [X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
    [X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
    [X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
    [X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
    [x] This vote should be considered an abstention regarding what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
    -[x] Record everything for future use.
    --[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    --[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
    [x] This vote should be considered and abstention on what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
    -[x] Record everything for future use.
    --[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    --[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
 
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[x] Red Bovine

There. It's not my problem anymore so I can stop getting pinged about it, but I just don't have the time to debate.
 
[ X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here

Edit: Changed my vote, yet again.
 
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[X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here

I didn't think the vote was snarky as much as it was panicked, but I guess after reading it again it could be taken that way. Whatever, not that big a deal. Though we should probably tell him about our condition, so they don't end up killing us accidentally by taking the Transistor away @Red Bovine
 
[X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here

I didn't think the vote was snarky as much as it was panicked, but I guess after reading it again it could be taken that way. Whatever, not that big a deal. Though we should probably tell him about our condition, so they don't end up killing us accidentally by taking the Transistor away @Red Bovine

I imagine that Jaune would bring it up on his own if it became an issue.
Adhoc vote count started by Red Bovine on Feb 9, 2018 at 5:48 PM, finished with 2247 posts and 37 votes.

  • [X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
    [X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here.
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    -[X] You have connections... Fine, you have a connection, so put it to use. Have Blue message Weiss to explain that you're being held up by an Atlas goon and have her call you. Hand over your scroll and hope the heiress of the SDC has enough pull with whoever this guy works for.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    -[x] Call the cops surreptitiously.
    --[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    [X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    -[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    -[x] Be ready to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
    --[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
    [X] "Well obviously it's my AI who asked your AI out on a date. I mean really it should be obvious but maybe I'm expecting to much from people. The only reason I'm here besides being the chaperone is that I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying, but hey now that your here mabye I can have some pleasant company once you stop being a complete and utter DICK!"
    [x] Write-in: DANGER MODE TURN ACTIVATE
    -[x] Jaunt Behind who ever the fuck this is. Scan him. He just lost privacy privileges.
    --[x]Ready to ()Spiral a bitch and look for any other dickheads backing this guy up.
    ---[X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
    ----[x] THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT BLUE!
    [X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
    -[X] You have connections... Fine, you have a connection, so put it to use. Have Blue message Weiss to explain that you're being held up by an Atlas goon and have her call you. Hand over your scroll and hope the heiress of the SDC has enough pull with whoever this guy works for.
    -[X] Scan him. He just lost his Privacy Privileges.
    [x] Record everything for future use.
    [X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
    [X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
    [X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
    [X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
    [X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
    [x] This vote should be considered an abstention regarding what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
    -[x] Record everything for future use.
    --[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    --[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
    [x] This vote should be considered and abstention on what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
    -[x] Record everything for future use.
    --[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
    --[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
 
[X] Record everything for future use.
[X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
[X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
[X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
[X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
[X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
 
[X] "You're bluffing. You're not actually going to gun me down in public, you just want me to confess to something you can pin on me."
 
[X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
 
Changing vote to:

[] Tell the Relevant Bits of the Truth- Talk about how you made an AI as part of your semblance and how you need it for medical reasons, show him your medical papers of necessary. Say that it noticed another AI sending a message and they got talking, don't elaborate on its capabilities unless pressed, and even then try to keep quiet about the functions and semblance copying and insane computing ability if you can.
 
[] Tell the Relevant Bits of the Truth- Talk about how you made an AI as part of your semblance and how you need it for medical reasons, show him your medical papers of necessary. Say that it noticed another AI sending a message and they got talking, don't elaborate on its capabilities unless pressed, and even then try to keep quiet about the functions and semblance copying and insane computing ability if you can.

Edit; vote changed
[X] Say that you created an AI that wanted to meet another AI which is why you are here
 
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