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MediumGatoKatr said:
Is it though? I was under the impression that beasts hunt primarily on the astral plane, chimerical reality or whatever it was supposed to be. Without ESP you wouldn't be able to even see what they were doing as anything other than two crazy people ranting at each other, even assuming they were in physical proximity.
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With the right powers they can lift cars and fly. You wouldn't be able to see the monster part of things, but that's not the part they'd want to show off in the first place. There's nothing stopping one from putting on a cape and playing Superman (actually it'd be a pretty good disguise, people wouldn't see that and think 'he has a nightmare beast for a soul'). Or just breaking every world record in weightlifting and going to the Olympics or whatever else they want.
 
There's fun to be had with Beasts. Imagine some other supernatural type deciding to "deal with" this guy that's been messing with their stuff. They thought it was just an average joe. They were wrong.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
The issue is that while the actual Beast erupting from its mortal host to rip people apart isn't visible to normal people, they instead would see it as people being burned/crushed/ripped apart by an invisible force, seemingly centered on said host. Ditto with most of their other powers; the cause is invisible, but the effect isn't. The only "stealthy" powers they have are things like "I glare at someone and they immediately start gibbering and screaming and pissing themselves in fear."

Likewise, when they let their Horror feast on people through the collective unconscious, that manifests as a whole lot of people in the same general area having the same nightmare about the same eldritch abomination. The reasons Heroes seldom have trouble rounding up vigilante mobs to help them is that by the time a Beast's established itself enough for a Hero to notice them, the townsfolk are already aware that something is wrong, even if they can't put their finger on any specifics of that wrongness.
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(Butthead voice) uh isn't the editor like a pedo?

(Seriously though I want to know the story behind the writing team without the discussion devoving into a pedo hunt.)
 
GAWR said:
(Butthead voice) uh isn't the editor like a pedo?

(Seriously though I want to know the story behind the writing team without the discussion devoving into a pedo hunt.)
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The lead writer, Matt McFarland, was a pedophile and wrote the game as predator apologia. The beasts were evil monsters that prey on humans, but the writing took every chance it could to make the beasts look like a persecuted minority and the heroes look like evil psychopaths.
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
I wanted to discuss urban fantasy in a more general sense and this is the only applicable thread. I don't like world of darkness' setting or rules and I associate discussions of it with really bad memories of flame wars, but fuck me I don't have a choice in the matter. Nobody's interested in discussing anything else.
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Sounds like an easy enough problem to fix, and I did! Alas, no black jack or hookers though. General Urban Fantasy discussion & world building thread
 
Queshire said:
Alas, no black jack or hookers though.
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Could be worse. At least they aren't trying to eat you.

EDIT: Which reminds me... Zombie: The Coil was obviously written by a dude with a vore fetish.

EDIT: Also, I was talking about RPGs specifically, not fiction in general. I made a thread for brainstorming urban fantasy, or as the parody goes "new age mythic heartbreaker."
 
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MediumGatoKatr said:
I wanted to discuss urban fantasy in a more general sense and this is the only applicable thread. I don't like world of darkness' setting or rules and I associate discussions of it with really bad memories of flame wars, but fuck me I don't have a choice in the matter. Nobody's interested in discussing anything else.
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you might be interested in this: it's not exactly what you're looking for (it's gothic horror instead urban fantasy) but you can easily refluff it since it's D&D.
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
I wanted to discuss urban fantasy in a more general sense and this is the only applicable thread. I don't like world of darkness' setting or rules and I associate discussions of it with really bad memories of flame wars, but fuck me I don't have a choice in the matter. Nobody's interested in discussing anything else.
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but...you 100% do have a choice in the matter.

you could, like, not post in a thread that you keep saying aggravates your depression and makes you physically miserable. and, like, it's not exactly fair to people here either y'know? 'cause i'll be honest man, trying to discuss WoD stuff with you (which i think is pretty reasonable given that this is, uh, the WoD thread) isn't exactly pleasant 'cause you're coming in with a massive chip on your shoulder about WoD to begin with and then doubling down with a lot of your posts being about how WoD would be a lot better if it was Not WoD.

nobody's forcing you to post here man, and there's only a certain extent that people can and should be expected to accommodate your uh- i mean they're really demands at this point tbh?
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
I literally have depression right now, so please give me a break on all the "your opinions are always wrong and my opinions are objective reality" spiel. I get that all the time and it only makes me more misanthropic.
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I'm not quite ready to off myself for that inconvenience, but I really want to die sometime soon.
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MediumGatoKatr said:
Yeah, I can leave. I can grow increasingly hateful of myself for being unable to find anywhere I can talk to people with shared interests because my interests are all fundamentally stupid and wrong and shit. Just like me, a gigantic pile of shit pretending to be a human being.
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Then leave. We not going to make you feel better, we're not your therapists, we're just here to talk about these games. If being here causes you misery and you're gonna share it go somewhere else, preferably to get help for your problems.

I'm serious. We can't help you and you don't get to dump your baggage in here, so if you don't think you can participate healthily then dip and take care of yourself.
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
Yeah, I can leave. I can grow increasingly hateful of myself for being unable to find anywhere I can talk to people with shared interests because my interests are all fundamentally stupid and wrong and shit. Just like me, a gigantic pile of shit pretending to be a human being.
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Not what I said man, and the thing is like- there's 100% people here to talk about your shared interests here it just requires that you compromise more than Not At All or, at a bare minimum, engage more constructively than "the thing you like is stupid". And the fact that you aren't really willing to isn't anyone's responsibility or, like, dilemma to deal with but yours.

People aren't required to manage your reactions for you.
 
Queshire said:
There's fun to be had with Beasts. Imagine some other supernatural type deciding to "deal with" this guy that's been messing with their stuff. They thought it was just an average joe. They were wrong.
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I always wanted to ignore most of the fluff of beast and do a game where your some form of organized crime group, like bank robbers.

Where your powers blur the line between reality and fiction, and your compelled by your beast aspects.

Like maybe one of them is a dragon, using a shotgun with dragons breath rounds (That operate super good, because dragon power)

And then he takes a hostage and kills one in front of a swat member.

The swat member then becomes a hero on a rampage tracking them down and showing up in gear to take them down even at other banks not in his jurisdiction.
Eventually Swat hero may even "Invade the lair"


So yeah your evil, but your bound by your nature and trying to survive, maybe your trying to minimize damage, maybe your not.
Maybe you are trying to be robin hood, and do what your nature makes you (kill, steal, etc etc) but in such a way to improve society but innocents get caught in the cross fire.
 
TenfoldShields said:
engage more constructively than "the thing you like is stupid".
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I don't think the thing you like is stupid. I have different likes. My likes are stupid because everyone always tells me so, so objectively I have stupid taste.

The problem here is that we can't have a constructive discussion about what we like in common because this game isn't a toolkit. My idealized setting and rules would look completely different from the canon. There are so many things about world of darkness that don't interest and that I would prefer to change, rules and setting. Nobody here is remotely interested in discussing alternate settings or rules.

I would really like to discuss urban fantasy tabletop in general, but that venue doesn't exist and it probably never will. So my interest in urban fantasy amounts to a pile of burning shit.
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
I would really like to discuss urban fantasy tabletop in general, but that venue doesn't exist and it probably never will. So my interest in urban fantasy amounts to a pile of burning shit.
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General Urban Fantasy discussion & world building thread

So, basically what it says on the tin. This thread is meant to talk about anything and everything dealing with the genre of urban fantasy. Is there a particular series that stands out? Masquerade or no masquerade? Wanna try making some and need some feedback on your world building ideas? Well...
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You have made no good faith effort to have a conversation in a fitting place and instead only complain here.

Go post what you love and want to discuss about urban fantasy and if others find it worth commenting on they will and a discussion can happen.

The venue was explicitly made for you and you ignored it.
 
*cough* Technically prompted by, not explicitly made for. It's open for anyone. I may or may not be pondering on writing an urban fantasy story myself.
 
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General Urban Fantasy discussion & world building thread

So, basically what it says on the tin. This thread is meant to talk about anything and everything dealing with the genre of urban fantasy. Is there a particular series that stands out? Masquerade or no masquerade? Wanna try making some and need some feedback on your world building ideas? Well...
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You have made no good faith effort to have a conversation in a fitting place and instead only complain here.

Go post what you love and want to discuss about urban fantasy and if others find it worth commenting on they will and a discussion can happen.

The venue was explicitly made for you and you ignored it.
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I know I'm a pile of shit, but I have to complain again. That's the fiction forum, not the gaming forum. I'm not trying to write prose, I'm interested in game settings. I already made a thread for discussing world building urban fantasy gaming and, surprise surprise, nobody gives a flying fuck because my opinions are shit and always have been shit.

World of darkness is the be-all-end-all of urban fantasy gaming and I can go fuck off and die in a fire for not slavishly worshiping it.
 
ManusDomini said:
look it has an okay page on zoroastrianism that was better than the one on the wiki until i went on an editing spree with another zoroastrian
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Really? Interesting! How familiar are you with Princess: the Hopeful, and specifically it's supplement for Hunter? Because I always thought that a hunter conspiracy specialized in hunting Darkspawn based around Zoroastrianism should be a perfect fit, though the idea didn't go anywhere not just because of my terminally erratic attention span, but also because I wasn't sure if I knew or could easily find out enough to formulate the idea properly.
 
MediumGatoKatr said:
I know I'm a pile of shit, but I have to complain again. That's the fiction forum, not the gaming forum. I'm not trying to write prose, I'm interested in game settings. I already made a thread for discussing world building urban fantasy gaming and, surprise surprise, nobody gives a flying fuck because my opinions are shit and always have been shit.

World of darkness is the be-all-end-all of urban fantasy gaming and I can go fuck off and die in a fire for not slavishly worshiping it.
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Then go make it in the gaming forum. Your a man complaining your dying of thirst, and refusing to unscrew a water bottle, then telling everyone else how terrible they are for making you watch them drink.
 
Gnarker said:
Really? Interesting! How familiar are you with Princess: the Hopeful, and specifically it's supplement for Hunter? Because I always thought that a hunter conspiracy specialized in hunting Darkspawn based around Zoroastrianism should be a perfect fit, though the idea didn't go anywhere not just because of my terminally erratic attention span, but also because I wasn't sure if I knew or could easily find out enough to formulate the idea properly.
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I'm pretty familiar, but I haven't really bothered with it for a long time due to disillusionment with it and tiring a bit out on the line in general. I do have a very unfinished write-up for Hunter about a Conspiracy of Zoroastrians that hunt vampires though, using holy robes to drag them into the sunlight and tie them to towers where they face the sun. Also I thought it would be interesting and funny to have a group of vampire hunters who refuse to use fire, the most effective weapon against vampires.
 
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