Typechange Johto

I'm glad to hear you've come to a decision on this.

It really is so lightweight a concept that, unless you copied @mp3.1415player style of writing, the words on the page would devolve into The Silmarillion, Pokémon Edition.
 
Honestly I can't see how such a "normal" story would be interesting to read, let alone write, since it would be heavily implying more interesting stuff happening around the corner, but not in the story itself. And, I'm actually of the impression that there is no such thing as an average pokemon trainer if they reach the League. They are likely all eccentric one way or the other, and having has some weird experiences along the way. The games don't help this view, as each and every single game has weird stuff happen to the protagonist, even discounting them dismantling the local gang/team along the way. And of course, the view in the anime and manga are of extreme people getting into extreme situations as well.

As said, your actual normal trainer probably doesn't even get all eight badges. Probably just half of that or less, honestly. Though thinking about it, what about Janice? She isn't a trainer, she got trained to be a starter but didn't go through with it. Did she do some minor training as a journey before giving up, or skip the whole trainer experience? Some stories indicate that everyone goes through the trainer experience, others that it's only a select number of people that get some training before they leave so they are properly prepared for living on their own. The digimon humans certainly got the impression that every single pokemon-human child goes through the trainer experience, even if that isn't what actually happens.
 
Actually, if you stop and think about it just about every main protagonist in all forms of Pokemon media are explicitly off the statistical charts in some way or another. Red is the once in a century Pokémon training God in the games and not far behind that in the manga. The other main protagonists are at least also in the .1% skill bracket. Ash has once in lifetime events happen on a weekly basis. The PCs of PMD are explicitly unique, the effective legendries and mythical Pokémon in a world, for example, where the supposed god of victory is a hyped-up carnival barker and a supersonic jet-wyvern thing is... technically a petty thief.

In other words, Pokémon doesn't do normal.
 
I'm glad to hear you've come to a decision on this.

It really is so lightweight a concept that, unless you copied @mp3.1415player style of writing, the words on the page would devolve into The Silmarillion, Pokémon Edition.
I think I will stick to having information given out piecemeal whenever it is plot relevant, with some more details added in response posts that may or may not get threadmarks.
Honestly I can't see how such a "normal" story would be interesting to read, let alone write, since it would be heavily implying more interesting stuff happening around the corner, but not in the story itself. And, I'm actually of the impression that there is no such thing as an average pokemon trainer if they reach the League. They are likely all eccentric one way or the other, and having has some weird experiences along the way. The games don't help this view, as each and every single game has weird stuff happen to the protagonist, even discounting them dismantling the local gang/team along the way. And of course, the view in the anime and manga are of extreme people getting into extreme situations as well.
"Normal" is still a bit unusual in this setting. I'm going for a feel of the main characters of my fics still being notable people, but at the same time that they are exceptions they are not so rare that they are fully out of place.
There are normal people who aren't that impressive or noteworthy by comparison, but I kind of want to go with a setting where those who make it to the League Tournament or spend a lot of time traveling will always have at least one story of that time they ended up needing to deal with something out of an episode of the pokemon anime.
See Mimi's Coordinator friends from DSS, who are a pair of perfectly normal non-battle trainers who had their own stories of unusual events.
As said, your actual normal trainer probably doesn't even get all eight badges. Probably just half of that or less, honestly. Though thinking about it, what about Janice? She isn't a trainer, she got trained to be a starter but didn't go through with it. Did she do some minor training as a journey before giving up, or skip the whole trainer experience? Some stories indicate that everyone goes through the trainer experience, others that it's only a select number of people that get some training before they leave so they are properly prepared for living on their own. The digimon humans certainly got the impression that every single pokemon-human child goes through the trainer experience, even if that isn't what actually happens.
So, one thing that I have pointed out many times before is that part of the reason for almost everyone going on these journeys is to see if another town or city has an opening for a job that they enjoy. Most kids from the many smaller towns, and many kids from the larger cities, will basically use the League as a combination of trade school for pokemon handling and extended job search. Pokemon handling is a common enough job requirement in the world that some will only be going for a few Badges before heading right back home to get a local job that required that certification.

There are two main exceptions to kids going on a League Run. Kids who have a job that doesn't need pokemon handling training, and kids who go on to a more specialist education for a job that requires more knowledge than the basics.
Janice is an example of the second. She considered both being a trainer and being a starter, but in the end went back to school to learn software engineering. I'm not sure if that came across fully, but Janice is a former member of the DSS Development Team that switched over to being the full time technical support when the Box Porygon project entered full use. She spent that time effectively getting a college degree in a specialist field.
The first kind has a good example right now in this story actually. Maizie did not go on a League Run, and simply took over as a local pokeball crafter from her grandfather instead. In a way that was sort of an apprenticeship kind of job, but that is typically how those exceptions work.
Both of these options are more common in large cities, which have more jobs that don't relate to pokemon and in general.
Actually, if you stop and think about it just about every main protagonist in all forms of Pokemon media are explicitly off the statistical charts in some way or another. Red is the once in a century Pokémon training God in the games and not far behind that in the manga. The other main protagonists are at least also in the .1% skill bracket. Ash has once in lifetime events happen on a weekly basis. The PCs of PMD are explicitly unique, the effective legendries and mythical Pokémon in a world, for example, where the supposed god of victory is a hyped-up carnival barker and a supersonic jet-wyvern thing is... technically a petty thief.

In other words, Pokémon doesn't do normal.
Game protagonists are first League Champions, which is not typical even among Champions. Jane from DSS is an exceptional trainer, as was noted from the start with her and her brother.
Anime-Ash is explicitly a cartoon in this setting, based on real events for many of his adventures but with the caveat that it wasn't actually a single person who did everything. So basically spread that out over lots of people.
PMD protagonists are universally called up in times that require either divine intervention or to hold an intervention for a divine being.
 
PMD protagonists are universally called up in times that require either divine intervention or to hold an intervention for a divine being.
That reads like the intro line to countless jokes. :lol2:

EDIT: only now does it come to me that the countless inevitable jokes might be made more mundane and literal than expected. 😱
Gatcha/lootbox games probably get upgraded from municipal banning to universal banning in the pokeworld because some local Champion will have to subdue a local urban/tech-friendly Legendary's random rampage, and reported to the League that the cause of the random rampage was a temper tantrum due to repeated bad pulls, while the Legendary insists its rampage was justified because not even magic rituals fixed the abysmal drop rates. :V
 
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"I'm more concerned with how to keep from burning down the forest," Kingler clicked and turned to Heracross. "Any tips for suddenly becoming a furnace?" The fact she was molten again wasn't as extreme as that prior time, it felt like she was a sticky thicker material this time instead of a thin flowing one.

"The big thing is to keep it inside more," her rodent teammate said a bit harshly at the reminder of that transformation. "At least to start out. That isn't enough to really cut it down to comfortable levels, but if you just try and cool off it stresses you out more."

One of the things I noticed in your last story is you do have a tendency to use the word harshly fairly often, and in some odd ways. Connotation is one of those things that can vary from individual to individual, but sometimes it would jar me a bit. For example- and obviously this is just personal preference- I might use bitterly if you're conveying that the reminder hurts and makes them angry, sharply if they're chastising kingler for bringing it up, or grumpily if they're just kind of mad but not at anything in particular. Still, I'm really glad to be reading this, thanks for putting it out there!
 
That reads like the intro line to countless jokes. :lol2:

EDIT: only now does it come to me that the countless inevitable jokes might be made more mundane and literal than expected. 😱
Gatcha/lootbox games probably get upgraded from municipal banning to universal banning in the pokeworld because some local Champion will have to subdue a local urban/tech-friendly Legendary's random rampage, and reported to the League that the cause of the random rampage was a temper tantrum due to repeated bad pulls, while the Legendary insists its rampage was justified because not even magic rituals fixed the abysmal drop rates. :V
I kind of was being halfway literal there. The second set of PMD games at minimum were basically about staging an intervention to stop Dialga from destroying everything, and I think "odd eldritch foes" is how the ones afterward that I have not played have gone.
One of the things I noticed in your last story is you do have a tendency to use the word harshly fairly often, and in some odd ways. Connotation is one of those things that can vary from individual to individual, but sometimes it would jar me a bit. For example- and obviously this is just personal preference- I might use bitterly if you're conveying that the reminder hurts and makes them angry, sharply if they're chastising kingler for bringing it up, or grumpily if they're just kind of mad but not at anything in particular. Still, I'm really glad to be reading this, thanks for putting it out there!
That is something I probably should try to work on a bit. Thank you for the suggestions, I'll try to keep them in mind.
 
William Rough Sketch
A brief power outage led to me deciding to take a moment to try my hand at drawing again, and one result was a rough sketch of William without an illusion:

View: https://imgur.com/a/ZOAWsUF

This is just the result of a few minutes without much thought about details, but I kind of like how it turned out.

I'm in the proofread/rework time for the next chapter, but it was a tricky one so I'm not sure when it will be posted.
 
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Inconveniently, the link worked fine for me the first time - and I can still see the image in EdroGrimshell's quote - but the revised link doesn't load for me.
 
Azalea Town Training
--- Azalea Town Training ---

Alexa hovered out of the door of the pokeball shop with a sigh. "Well, that didn't go too badly," she attempted to tell the other trainer.

"As far as hits to my view of the world goes, this one is one of the more mundane," William agreed and looked over Wooper's new Water Ball. It had a dark and light blue shell, with white lines and an even lighter blue to make a Water type symbol on its upper half just above the button. "Somehow that's worse. I can handle knowing some strange fact about reality that doesn't effect me much a lot better than the possibility that pokemon-trainers aren't getting the right education."

"We need to ask Charizard if he was told about those," Alexa agreed easily. It had her both worried about her own prospects this League, and about how Charizard would have done in the last one if he had set off as a trainer instead. "Also I need to get at least five different pairs of gloves."

"Five?" William asked but then groaned. "Right, two sets of arms for Vespikiln. I forgot that you need all of the clothes for every form. I just have to mimic what I've got if I use clothes for other forms."

"I'm not going to just wear gloves on one set of arms," Alexa buzzed with a bit of annoyance and held out her four arms for emphasis.

"Alexa Larch?" a voice questioned from nearby, which turned out to be the local Gym Leader. Bugsy's purple hair and field gear was easily recognizable. "The reason why Falkner apparently has spent a few days as a Bug type?"

"To be fair, I'm pretty sure that was the fastest way to turn him into a Flying typed pokemon Alexa had," William admitted with dry sarcasm. "You've met him right?"

Bugsy took a moment to look over Alexa with a critical eye that felt a bit uncomfortable. "It was a Bug type with wings," the Leader sighed, but still looked at her in a way that wasn't at all a Gym Leader looking at a possible opponent trainer. It was an expert trainer for her current type of pokemon that was inspecting a new species. "Of course, why did I think it was any other reason."

"Falkner was a bit driven on that front," Alexa admitted a bit more firmly than she normally spoke, in the hope that being able to talk would help with that sort of thing like William suggested it would. "My team and I ended up warning his team about it, because we were worried he might just fly off somewhere."

"Again, he might just fly off somewhere again," Bugsy corrected her. He still didn't seem to be looking at her like a human. "He has done that before even without his own set of wings. Unless you count mechanical ones, in which case he's just plain done it before."

"His Pidgeot might have mentioned that," Alexa allowed tiredly. William gave her a sympathetic look at how being able to talk did nothing to change Bugsy's reaction to her appearance. "I honestly kind of hope you don't want to try out being a Vespikiln too." She wondered if reminding the Leader she was a transformed human would help.

"To be one of them, no. To have a match against one of those ancient Bug types though," Bugsy suggested. "I won't make it a hard requirement to participate yourself, but if you could it would make my year."

Alexa had not been in a trainer verses trainer match yet herself, despite spending a bit of time on Route 32 working with her pokemon more physically than she had ever attempted before. She honestly had not seriously engaged with her pokemon like they did with each other for serious training. However, this was a request from a Gym Leader, and while Bugsy said it wasn't a requirement that didn't change that she wasn't sure she could honestly say 'no'. At best she could say she wasn't ready, and it was very possible that this Gym Leader would ask if she could come back when she was. A third Badge match she wasn't quite ready for might still be easier than a fourth or fifth that she was somewhat more prepared for, and she did not want to even try sixth or higher herself without a lot more work.

"Alexa hasn't fought in any matches herself yet," William said a bit firmly himself. "And from what I've heard all it would take is her own loss to lose the entire match."

"I was thinking a four on four match against a typical first time third Badge team with the added requirement that all pokemon on her team are either Bug typed or had originally been Bug typed," Bugsy clarified with a nod. "Not to mention that Vespikiln are Bug types known for hunting other Bug types."

"I think I might be able to handle that with a bit of practice," Alexa cut in before William could argue on her behalf more. "But I will need to double check with my team before I can say I have that many pokemon that count for it. Only one was originally Bug, and one of the two who tried Bug before isn't entirely fond of that change." Bellossom might possibly agree, but Rhydon really did not like the way the change ended for everyone other than Alexa.

"So you need to prepare still. How about in a week, can you spare that much time?" Bugsy questioned thoughtfully.

"I believe we already planned on being here that long at least," Alexa agreed, and she was quite glad to see the Gym Leader nod and walk away at that confirmation.

"Are you sure about that?" William asked her with concern.

"I need to try eventually," Alexa admitted. "And I don't want to have come all the way here and not get a Gym match out of it."

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"A Gym Leader asked you to do some extreme challenge again," Charizard summarized as they found an empty area near the town to train in. "Do you have to just switch between your two parents? I'd rather not have my trainer end up with a collection of scars as big as your mother's."

"My Lobasalt form can resurface," Alexa grumbled, well aware that it would not likely solve that issue. "I don't want to have come all this way only to need to come back again when he uses an even stronger team. Third Badge is about the limit of when you would actually use a newly caught pokemon without much training, so I should be able to handle whatever one he uses last on my own."

"We start with Mercury Contagion, the move version," Bellossom said in agreement instead of helping with Charizard's argument. "You already have Chitin Powder, but his pokemon are already Bug typed."

"We probably should start with making sure she can handle the basics," Kingler argued and motioned towards Rhydon. "I say we go for super effective moves first, both at and from her. She's dealing with double from Rock types, and single from Flying and Water." Kingler also pointed out Charizard and Rhydon.

"That might also tell us what kinds of Bugs he is going to try to use," Alexa noted and nodded at the idea. "The rest of you can setup to be able to take on those types."

"Huh, I could go for Bug/Water," Charizard considered with a joking smile.

"William, what in the world is happening," Chesnaught lamented from where the other trainer was letting out his own team. "Why is the strange Starter-trainer talking about being two types that are his opposites at the same time?"

"So, am I going to have to be a Bug again?" Rhydon asked with considerable concern while William explained the Gym challenge Alexa had been given. "The change itself isn't bad, but the way it ends." Her pokemon shuddered.

"We could try with your altered Grass type form," Alexa suggested with a look at Bellossom. The difference that layered forms made was notable. "That might cause you to change back differently."

"Although if we do try that then it either works or he doesn't use the other one," Charizard pointed out. "Unless we go into the forest and look for Celebi," he then added with a joking tone. Alexa pretended that she did not hear a faint giggle, and also that everyone else present didn't pale slightly after the sound that she decided did not happen.

"I can always try, but I might need to remove some layers first," Bellossom offered a touch nervously and used claws to scratch at the base of some of the flowers along the heavily transformed reptile's spine. "Although if it makes the Jade stay on better I might want another one over it."

Alexa nodded and got a vial of Crystal Syrup out of her bag for Rhydon. She spared a glance over at Chesnaught, but William's Grass/Fighting type didn't seem to really notice anything special about the substance. Rhydon took the much stronger vial and drank it easily. His body breaking apart into leaves, branches, and a core of dirt once again.

"Ooh, rocky pokemon turned into fluffy pokemon," Wooper said with the considerable and loud interest of a small child.

"Suddenly I am aware of why the rest of the team has been looking at me funny," Mareep added a bit faintly.

"Oh, that looks like it would be an interesting Acid Armor variant," Goodra contributed to the crowd's conversation as Rhydon spent a moment to really stretch and shift. "You keep all the branches moving so they only hit leaves instead of just being not-solid. I like it."

"So, Chitin Powder now?" Alexa asked, and Rhydon nodded. Charizard once more ended up with their Pokedex, and she was careful not to get any of the powder on herself, despite already being changed by the substance, mostly in case it increased her own duration further. Alexa wanted some time as something other than a Vespikiln before this Gym match.

The powder landed on Rhydon, and immediately the dirt that made up his core began to expand outward and change into a number of paper shells. A few more smaller wasp nests then formed at other locations among his branches. Then a number of tiny wasps began to emerge from the paper structures and buzz around Rhydon. They were tiny things, barely the length of a human's pinky finger, and seemed to shift along with Rhydon's movements in an odd way.

"Alexa, this is the most confusing change yet," the topiary pokemon with a few wasp nests stated. "I'm sort of the wasps too? Maybe?" Rhydon's eyes crossed to look at one on the leaves along his face, and a number of the tiny bugs flew in an odd pattern to face the same spot. "Can that be a thing?"

"Yes," Goodra answered before Alexa could even consider the question. "Yes, that is a thing that can happen with some pokemon. What was that fish pokemon we ran into during our first League?"

"Wishiwashi," William sighed the answer. "We lost to a Wishiwashi some foreign trainer brought to the League Tournament because none of us knew that 'one' pokemon could just be an entire school of fish."

"Okay, well I doubt that this will end the same way as before, but I will have to see what happens to all the little bugs," Rhydon tentatively allowed. "Although I am a bit worried they might just fly away, and that is kind of concerning."

"Scans are a bit iffy on this one. Alexa, I think you might need to look into this. We might even need your dad's help," Charizard said with a puzzled look at the Pokedex. "I'm getting some odd readings form them, and despite how many times you've handed me this thing I don't actually understand most of this stuff."

Alexa took the device back and tried to check the results herself. Then blinked at them, shifted the Pokedex to her lower arms and started to look for the manual in her bag with her upper pair. It was easier to use those for stuff she was looking at mostly because they were closer to her head. "Yeah, I think this is a dad-problem," she replied after a quick check of the dense book that revealed that she had no idea what some parts of the explanation of the display meant, let alone the things they were trying to tell her.

"I think we should work a bit on your lower arms too," Charizard noted thoughtfully. "You use them a bit, but I've seen you forget you have them a couple of times the past few days too."

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Chesnaught flinched as she felt her shell grow a bit more rigid, and the feeling of heat of Alexa's Vespikiln form increased noticeably. This was the second time the two of them had gone for a training bout that day, so Chesnaught was well aware of the dangers of the temporary Steel type addition move Alexa was working on, and as a result she was able to counter Alexa with a strong Rollout attack that was slightly enhanced by the addition of a metal coat.

The Bug/Fire type took the hit hard, and Chesnaught aborted the attack roughly herself in order to make up for that lack of skill. "Ugh, alright, I think your team should handle super effective moves for you," she grumbled from the small crater that she dug in order to stop herself. "Or at least I'm not trying anymore."

"I'm pretty sure most of the problem is with me," Alexa admitted apologetically. "I think I might need to dodge more than take hits in general." The Vespikiln didn't actually stand to say that, instead staying down in a way that had taken Chesnaught a few weeks to understand the need for after becoming a Starter. The classes on being a Starter had taught the skill of resting to not make the situation worse, but it had taken actual practice on William's team to drive the lessons home. "We might not be able to afford the supplies I'd need to practice this quickly."

"Alexa, I can pay for the medical supplies for this," Charizard pointed out, and Chesnaught tried to not react to another mention of how the other Starter of their group was also basically a trainer. It was one thing for William to be like that, he could speak human and look like one too. Even Alexa was human first and turned into pokemon forms. Charizard had just learned how to read and write, which Chesnaught had the opportunity for but never actually considered doing. It was a level of knowledge within her reach.

"I think Alexa still needs a break for today," William suggested as the bee trainer started to unsteadily stand up, which was a good distraction from that thought.

"I hate to say it, William, but I don't agree," Chesnaught sighed as she considered the practical aspects of this. "She has a week to get into shape to handle a Gym battle, and from what everyone is saying if she goes down they just lose. I know the plan is for her to go last, but all it will take is for the last pokemon to have a good super effective move right now."

"It is better than when we started, but I'm in trouble if I can't handle at least one bad hit enough to send in someone else," Alexa agreed and fumbled a bit to use a potion. "That was one move to take me out of the fight."

"Chesnaught did hit a bit harder than most three Badge fights," Charizard pointed out and got another potion for his trainer. "But that is part of the point, we want to be ready for something worse than we are going to face." He did not use the healing item. "I think that broke your defense, the first one didn't seem to work. We might need to wait a bit anyway, or use a Revive to restart it."

"A break then," Alexa lamented. "We can't afford that much even if you use your money. Rhydon, are you up for a bit of work while I recover?"

Chesnaught felt that seeing Rhydon change was a bit more of an explanation of just how Alexa's team could deal with the strangeness. Apparently he was one of the first changed, and the first to outright prefer a form over his original. It was a massive alteration compared to the brief move-based changes to her own type she had faced before and now. Trick-Or-Treat was now a horrible realization that she had been Ghost typed, even if just for a short time. Soak was half familiar, and now that Chesnaught had a better idea of what options were out there a bit worse than the others. Losing her types for one she couldn't use was worse in the moment.

In comparison to those two, the move Alexa was using to make her Steel typed for an extra Fire type weakness was halfway tolerable. It also made it so Alexa's limited Bug type moves less viable, and outright removed any risk from the Poison type moves the Vespikiln had attempted earlier before it was clear that Alexa couldn't outlast a foe yet.

"Oh, can try?" Wooper questioned. "Want to try!"

Chesnaught shared a look with William about the small pokemon who was double weak to the Grass type going against one. "Maybe you can wait for Alexa to be ready again," her trainer suggested instead. "Give her some time with a new pokemon to work with that."

"She's going to need help with that," Chesnaught agreed, and tried not to flinch too much about how Alexa could in fact put out some fairly strong Fire attacks. Even without the double weakness of an added Steel type the Vespikiln could manage a win against Chesnaught with a few solid hits. It would still be the safer option for her team's newest member, but maybe not by much.

"I'm a bit nervous about trying to go up against that team myself," Mareep noted quietly, but not quiet enough. "Fire is a nice addition, but- But Alexa is changing Chesnaught's type as an attack, and that is a bit much for me right now."

In the end it was Scyther that ended up going against Rhydon, which was to the Grass/Bug type's disadvantage, but Chesnaught's teammate was even less used to an opponent that could manage Rock typed attacks without being one. Rhydon's attempt at Rock Throw was fairly small and weak compared to what Chesnaught was sure he could do in his natural form, but for a plant with a wasp nest in it the result was impressive and a good surprise.

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"We might as well get as much practice as we can," Charizard said with a flick of the fin at the end of his currently Fire/Water typed tail. Alexa carefully watched as her Starter got ready to see what Chitin Powder did to him when he was like this, Pokedex in her lower arms because she was more dexterous with her upper ones. The reminder that she had the extra limbs to do this herself was a bit embarrassing.

"Fire should still be the less compatible one," Alexa said, mostly to William's team. "Although I'm not sure how Bug/Water will turn out for you."

"I want to see what he looks like with a shell," Chesnaught called out smugly, apparently a bit more comfortable now with these changes.

Alexa shook her head and once again sprinkled some of the powder onto him. His skin again started to harden into segmented plates, but this time the main color shifted to a dark blue instead of the green he had become the first time they used the powder on him. His face and head became more angular but also widened as it changed to flat surfaces and his two horns simply becoming longer, thicker, and pointed. His claws and arms changed the same way again, with the formation of a notable ball at his shoulder and clear segments to his arms while his claws expanded into a circular three part structure that was nearly round when closed. His legs and toes only became segmented, but his tail once more broadened out into a long thick segmented appendage with a fin at the end like a lobster. Finally his tailflame was replaced with closely collected water and additional spheres appeared along the tips of his fin-ribs, as those back fins remained entirely unchanged.

"I think this explains why it didn't work on Kingler," Charizard clicked, and frowned at the sound. "I kind of want to see if we can get more lobster forms at this point," he joked.

"He looks good with a shell," Chesnaught complained loudly, which made Charizard burst out in sudden laughter. "It isn't funny, you were supposed to look silly and you don't."

"I'm more concerned about when he turns back," Rhydon grumbled, but with a bit of an uneasy smile. "But that will be a few days from now, and again a few more after that since the match is so long from now."

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[Author's Initial Note]
Not entirely happy with this one, but I also don't really have anything else to put here for the moment to continue it and it is taking a while to get this far.
I'm going to let this one sit until I have the next written, and then see if I can get things better with some distance.
[Updated]
So, I've reviewed this one, it does hold up to accomplish what I want out of it, and I was able to spot another thing to add, but it feels a bit short still.
 
"Do you have to just switch between your two parents? I'd rather not have my trainer end up with a collection of scars as big as your mother's."
Oh jeez, Alexa's mom is giving me Golddigger comic vibes: Indiana Jones but with even more violence and mystical madness, where rolling boulder traps are rated on their execution rather than ran away from.


William, what in the world is happening," Chesnaught lamented from where the other trainer was letting out his own team. "Why is the strange Starter-trainer talking about being two types that are his opposites at the same time?"
Chestnaught's confusion will go away when she realizes that Charizard is actually a "Pokémon-Professor's Assistant-Professor's Pokemon-Assistant."
Because it's obvious to Chestnaught's instincts that Charizard is neither a Trainer or a Starter, but an entirely different label of existence. Once she has the correct label, her instincts will settle down.


"Although if we do try that then it either works or he doesn't use the other one," Charizard pointed out. "Unless we go into the forest and look for Celebi," he then added with a joking tone. Alexa pretended that she did not hear a faint giggle, and also that everyone else present didn't pale slightly after the sound that she decided did not happen.
I love this so much. It really captures the heart of the earlier thread discussion about "Average Trainer Experiences".

What happens to the forest incarnating a Celebi when the Celebi itself undergoes a type change? Does the forest itself count as the collective un-expressed energy types of the Celebi it is incarnating?


Oh, that looks like it would be an interesting Acid Armor variant," Goodra contributed to the crowd's conversation as Rhydon spent a moment to really stretch and shift. "You keep all the branches moving so they only hit leaves instead of just being not-solid. I like it."
Goodra, please, just submit a job application to Digital Storage Solutions...
Wait, is this possibly the same Goodra who ends up heading the Acid Armor TM conversion experiment in the Experimental Box?


"Yeah, I think this is a dad-problem," she replied after a quick check of the dense book that revealed that she had no idea what some parts of the explanation of the display meant, let alone the things they were trying to tell her.
Just how information dense are Pokedexes, considering they lack an internet accessible database to refer back to...?
Ah, wait, I know the answer to this one. I recall something about Pokedexes being explicitly built with mystical components so as to not only pick up mystical data, but also to procedurally generate new data output streams onto the screen and equipment hookup line as a ruggedization and debugging feature, sorely needed when new Energy Type interactions appear in the world spontaneously again, and the manual is simply a collection of known possibilities for screen data output, so a new pattern of symbols or a completely unknown symbol can show up.


"Chesnaught did hit a bit harder than most three Badge fights," Charizard pointed out and got another potion for his trainer. "But that is part of the point, we want to be ready for something worse than we are going to face." He did not use the healing item. "I think that broke your defense, the first one didn't seem to work. We might need to wait a bit anyway, or use a Revive to restart it."
Defense broke? I remember your brief lecture on the subject, how pokemon hold their outer interactive layers of Typed Energy tightly together as their native defensive field, and that Humans also have a passive form of this,, but Alexa is ballet dancing over the line between Human and Pokémon. I'm worried about her mystical acclimation to pokemon defensive technique, or lack of adaptation thereof.

I'm also overjoyed to learn more about healing items, that they need that outermost interactive layer of Typed Energy intact and healthy to interface its healing effect with the pokemon at all. It really puts Type: Null's imprisonment-style energy-suppression Armor in a concerning light.


"I think this explains why it didn't work on Kingler," Charizard clicked, and frowned at the sound. "I kind of want to see if we can get more lobster forms at this point," he joked.
Elden Ring, and the rest of the Souls games, have taught me that Crabs are true dragons, merely needing to evolve into Arch Dragons with the right conditions. Charizard is absolutely unprepared for the eldritch truth of Meta-Carcinization.
 
Oh jeez, Alexa's mom is giving me Golddigger comic vibes: Indiana Jones but with even more violence and mystical madness, where rolling boulder traps are rated on their execution rather than ran away from.
Well, that isn't far off from what I'm thinking, or at least is an idea for how to refine what I am thinking on that front.
Chestnaught's confusion will go away when she realizes that Charizard is actually a "Pokémon-Professor's Assistant-Professor's Pokemon-Assistant."
Because it's obvious to Chestnaught's instincts that Charizard is neither a Trainer or a Starter, but an entirely different label of existence. Once she has the correct label, her instincts will settle down.
Possibly, although at this point it is partially that Charizard is not that different from her. So she's also facing the idea that she could possibly have been a trainer too.
She has no interest in that idea, but it is just now occurring to her as having been an option.
I love this so much. It really captures the heart of the earlier thread discussion about "Average Trainer Experiences".

What happens to the forest incarnating a Celebi when the Celebi itself undergoes a type change? Does the forest itself count as the collective un-expressed energy types of the Celebi it is incarnating?
... that is actually an excellent question I will need to consider carefully.
Goodra, please, just submit a job application to Digital Storage Solutions...
Wait, is this possibly the same Goodra who ends up heading the Acid Armor TM conversion experiment in the Experimental Box?
The timing does not line up at all for William's Goodra to get in the DSS Box System, but if he was aware of that project he probably would try to join the effort.
Just how information dense are Pokedexes, considering they lack an internet accessible database to refer back to...?
Ah, wait, I know the answer to this one. I recall something about Pokedexes being explicitly built with mystical components so as to not only pick up mystical data, but also to procedurally generate new data output streams onto the screen and equipment hookup line as a ruggedization and debugging feature, sorely needed when new Energy Type interactions appear in the world spontaneously again, and the manual is simply a collection of known possibilities for screen data output, so a new pattern of symbols or a completely unknown symbol can show up.
I work with the idea that a Pokedex is basically a field computer as made by people with considerably more tech than we have. So it is a really advanced pocket sensor system with attached mini-supercomputer and an impressive database.
Most of them actually end up highly customized by their owners, who tend to be some kind of Pokemon Lab Assistant at minimum.
In the case of Alexa's, it used to be the most advanced and potent scanning system her father had in his entire lab. He has been working on this stuff since Alexa was younger, so it has been his main computer for quite a while now.
Which also means it can be more complicated than what Alexa knows how to handle.
Defense broke? I remember your brief lecture on the subject, how pokemon hold their outer interactive layers of Typed Energy tightly together as their native defensive field, and that Humans also have a passive form of this,, but Alexa is ballet dancing over the line between Human and Pokémon. I'm worried about her mystical acclimation to pokemon defensive technique, or lack of adaptation thereof.

I'm also overjoyed to learn more about healing items, that they need that outermost interactive layer of Typed Energy intact and healthy to interface its healing effect with the pokemon at all. It really puts Type: Null's imprisonment-style energy-suppression Armor in a concerning light.
Defensive energy is a sort of side energy to typed energy. It is somewhere between life force energy, a protective shield, and a source of rapid healing. All creatures on the pokemon world have some, and a number of factors determine how it interacts with typed energy moves.
The typed energy of a creature determines the biggest shifts in defensive ability, basically how the resistance table applies to "HP". In universe "HP" is a very technical term only really used for scientific measurements of this energy that either got named because of what media called it, or led to media calling it that.
Humans tend to have an additional resistance on top of the typical from their tightly bound energies, which makes them more resilient than pokemon, but they still have the energy.

The energy when depleted enough "breaks", which for games counts as fainting. This is a state that still leaves the individual alive and able to recover, but they will be much more easily injured by any additional attacks. Special healing items are needed to restart the defensive energy from a break instead of just building it back up while there still is some.

As for Type: Null I have not played the Sun/Moon games, so I don't know the full lore there.
Elden Ring, and the rest of the Souls games, have taught me that Crabs are true dragons, merely needing to evolve into Arch Dragons with the right conditions. Charizard is absolutely unprepared for the eldritch truth of Meta-Carcinization.
Kingler is very happy to be a Dragon type, so that checks out. Although Charizard has pointed out that the team seems to have found a bit of Carcinization with their current set of changes.
 
Alexa had not been in a trainer verses trainer match yet herself, despite spending a bit of time on Route 32 working with her pokemon more physically than she had ever attempted before. She honestly had not seriously engaged with her pokemon like they did with each other for serious training. However, this was a request from a Gym Leader, and while Bugsy said it wasn't a requirement that didn't change that she wasn't sure she could honestly say 'no'. At best she could say she wasn't ready, and it was very possible that this Gym Leader would ask if she could come back when she was. A third Badge match she wasn't quite ready for might still be easier than a fourth or fifth that she was somewhat more prepared for, and she did not want to even try sixth or higher herself without a lot more work.

"Alexa hasn't fought in any matches herself yet," William said a bit firmly himself. "And from what I've heard all it would take is her own loss to lose the entire match."

"I was thinking a four on four match against a typical first time third Badge team with the added requirement that all pokemon on her team are either Bug typed or had originally been Bug typed," Bugsy clarified with a nod. "Not to mention that Vespikiln are Bug types known for hunting other Bug types."

"I think I might be able to handle that with a bit of practice," Alexa cut in before William could argue on her behalf more. "But I will need to double check with my team before I can say I have that many pokemon that count for it. Only one was originally Bug, and one of the two who tried Bug before isn't entirely fond of that change." Bellossom might possibly agree, but Rhydon really did not like the way the change ended for everyone other than Alexa.
So, Alexa is pretty much thinking she has no choice but to do this battle, and William's trying to get her out of it.
"Although if we do try that then it either works or he doesn't use the other one," Charizard pointed out. "Unless we go into the forest and look for Celebi," he then added with a joking tone. Alexa pretended that she did not hear a faint giggle, and also that everyone else present didn't pale slightly after the sound that she decided did not happen.
Is Celebi fairy-like enough to have some Fairy nature to him? Because this kinda sounds like they gave Celebi an idea for a Prank.
As for Type: Null I have not played the Sun/Moon games, so I don't know the full lore there.
Type: Null, originally labeled Type: Full, is an artificial Pokémon designed to to fight against Ultra Beasts, extra-dimensional Pokémon-like creatures. Part of the construction was the RKS system, a type-change function named after the inspiration for the system; Arceus. Unfortunately the system wasn't fully stable and Type: Full went berserk. They put a helmet on them that suppressed the RKS system, locking them into their default Normal type. They were then put into cryogenic storage and deemed a failure, given the name Null. Later, one was trained and bonded with until it "evolved", the helmet came off and it regained full control of the RKS system, and was renamed Silvally.

I put evolved in quotes because while it's treated as an evolution, the only difference physically is the helmet coming off, so it really isn't an evolution. Lol.
 
So, Alexa is pretty much thinking she has no choice but to do this battle, and William's trying to get her out of it.
That is part of the conflict here.
Is Celebi fairy-like enough to have some Fairy nature to him? Because this kinda sounds like they gave Celebi an idea for a Prank.
:)
Type: Null, originally labeled Type: Full, is an artificial Pokémon designed to to fight against Ultra Beasts, extra-dimensional Pokémon-like creatures. Part of the construction was the RKS system, a type-change function named after the inspiration for the system; Arceus. Unfortunately the system wasn't fully stable and Type: Full went berserk. They put a helmet on them that suppressed the RKS system, locking them into their default Normal type. They were then put into cryogenic storage and deemed a failure, given the name Null. Later, one was trained and bonded with until it "evolved", the helmet came off and it regained full control of the RKS system, and was renamed Silvally.

I put evolved in quotes because while it's treated as an evolution, the only difference physically is the helmet coming off, so it really isn't an evolution. Lol.
Alright. That sounds like it would result in suppressed types, but in my interpretation might actually result in some increased defense at the cost of ability to use moves overall.
 
Ehhhhh basically the helmet repressed the type changing ability, and the move that took most advantage of it, and cut speed, upside was that it prevented crits.

EDIT: Did a quick check, apparently silvally does have a significantly deeper move pool than type:null, and not just multi-attack and the bite moves, so yeah apparently the helmet was suppressing more than just speed and the RKS system ability.
 
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Ehhhhh basically the helmet repressed the type changing ability, and the move that took most advantage of it, and cut speed, upside was that it prevented crits.

EDIT: Did a quick check, apparently silvally does have a significantly deeper move pool than type:null, and not just multi-attack and the bit moves, so yeah apparently the helmet was suppressing more than just speed and the RKS system ability.
Alright, that does indicate it is a rather notable change to be safe to handle without the helmet.
Although it does sound like it is a bit ambiguous if they are safe without it by default or if that was actually a needed thing to do to the pokemon.
 
Fascinating! More?
Any art for the alt forms? I'd draw some, but I have damaged wrists and never was a good artist to begin with.
 
It's an affection based evolution, if that clarifies anything
I'm not saying ambiguous as a bad thing. I just am unsure if the implication is meant to be "is actually very dangerous without the armor until you have built up trust" or "is only dangerous if you don't try to build up trust, so the armor shouldn't be needed".
I think the intent is probably the second one, but from the description there isn't much that indicates the first isn't the case.
Fascinating! More?
Any art for the alt forms? I'd draw some, but I have damaged wrists and never was a good artist to begin with.
I am trying for a vaguely weekly schedule, at least to keep ahead of the FF.net and Ao3 versions, but my stories progress at the pace of my writing. I haven't given myself a solid timetable since the original Typechange thread, and that taught me that solid timetables just produce stress and poorly structured chapters.
As for art, there are some very nice pieces made by @Tam Lin during the first story. I probably have not thanked them enough for those.
Other than those there has not been any more attempts to show the forms yet. My own art skills are limited, and some are a bit difficult for me to attempt.
(Not posted along with that William sketch were aborted attempts at Alexa's three new forms.)
 
I just am unsure if the implication is meant to be "is actually very dangerous without the armor until you have built up trust" or "is only dangerous if you don't try to build up trust, so the armor shouldn't be needed".
I think the intent is probably the second one, but from the description there isn't much that indicates the first isn't the case.
The description is that they went berserk from rejecting the RKS system, and that the helmets lessened the effects of the rejection. So I think it's closer to the first; they're initially dangerous without the helmets due to the effects of the RKS system being rejected, and they probably acclimated to the system over time as they were trained and gained trust in their trainers.
 
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