Typechange Johto

Well apparently Pokemon in paldea can terrastrialize, which is anninnbattle form change that makes them into shiny transparent versions of themselves with an over the top hat. Now the hat is important because it tells you what the type of the terrastrialization is. Pokemon can usually tetra-type into one of their extant types and moves of that type get an enhanced stab bonus, from x1.5 to x2.

What's interesting is that some mon can terrastrialize into completely different type and get regular stab on those moves. So most Gardevoir could normally have a terra type of psychic or fairy but every once in a while you can stumble on one that terrastrializes to water.

I don't know if this is an actual type change or if it impacts defense at all, but it does confirm that you can just randomly have individual Pokemon who have affinities for types not normally associated with their species.

I think it's interesting anyway.
I can confirm that it's a total type change and that it works both offensively and defensively.
So a Gardevoir that Terracristalyze into a Fairy got x2 boost to its fairy move, become weak to only steel and poison and resist dark type move.
A Gardevoir that Terracristalyse into a water type got an x1.5 boost to any water move it knows, becomes weak to electricity and plant and resistant to fire.

Source: Pokemon.com
 
Phone Home
--- Phone Home ---

Bellossom's claws were much more convenient for moving quickly than her more normal set of limbs. It made a quick dodge out of the way of her opponent's attacks much easier. Although currently with the downside that she needed to dodge much more than before in order to keep her Jade safe from attacks.

The Ursaring she was up against was strong, and bulky, but had clearly not been prepared for her to be able to scamper out of his way. Unfortunately he was prepared for the shocks and leaves she could send at him while she dodged. It was only a matter of time before a more solid hit broke the gold and made her have to use the Fire type instead.

"Try and go for draining moves," Alexa suggested in a rumble, and Bellossom kept one eye on Leader Whitney to confirm a suspicion.

"Whitney can understand," she quickly told her trainer and scrambled out of the way of another claw swipe that brought the bear close enough to possibly use such a move, but definitely would get her hit hard. "I have an idea." If Bellossom could get it to work. Charizard had tried to teach her something that would drastically improve her ability to fight, but it was a very off-type move, and not even for a type she really used.

She built up a liquid energy in the back of her throat. If this didn't work then her backup at this point was probably to tear off the Jade herself and just get it fixed later. With a probably too telegraphed motion she spat a large ball of glowing water, that splashed over the bear and changed his fur to a blue color and added webbing between his claws.

"Soak," the Ursaring complained at his wet, but made to be wet, fur. "You of all pokemon know Soak?" Then the bear blinked at the sparks playing across her leaves and flowers. "Wait, wait, you know Soak!"

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Rhydon had a toxic core to his topiary form, and a plan of using his lessons with Goodra to outlast whatever typically bulky pokemon of the Normal type he ended up against. He was as a result quite happy to see the Kangaskhan across from him on the arena floor quite deliberately set her child down in the trainer section before they could start.

"Hmph, did you have to be Poison typed?" she complained with a huff.

"Well, no, but it seemed like the best option," he answered. "My Grass type form isn't as good about big hits yet."

"You... didn't. You did not have to be Poison typed?" Kangaskhan questioned slowly as Whitney finally got the baby settled.

"Start with stomp," Whitney cut the conversation off but, as Bellossom had noted earlier, the Gym Leader had clearly been able to follow it.

"Toxin then stay safe," Alexa ordered to confirm they were still going with the same plan. Rhydon made sure the glob of toxin he spat at Kangaskhan wasn't transformative, and easily hit his target.

Unfortunately his opponent also easily hit him, but while it did make one of his limb-branches creak it didn't hurt too badly. He had enough time before the followup strike to let his body move much more freely, and a quick series of motions allowed him to almost-flow out from under the Normal type.

Staying fluid in motion wasn't too hard, but the fact that there was still a solid part to his body meant it wasn't quite as effective. As a result Rhydon was quite battered himself by the time Kangaskhan was out of the match.

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Heracross took wing immediately, and smirked at the annoyed Pidgeotto that clearly had expected a Bug type, or perhaps even just a regular Fighting type. Although the match up still wasn't really in his favor either.

"Try Mercury Contagion," Alexa suggested, while he missed Whitney's own order that sent Pidgeotto after him. Heracross spat some liquid metal onto the bird just before they raked their talons across his back.

There was a squawk of confusion behind him as he recovered with a couple of strong flaps, and then spun around to properly hit some Fighting type strikes against the now more vulnerable bird pokemon.

Pidgeotto now had a notably weighty coating of liquid metal on their feathers, and seemed to realize the situation quickly. "Fighting types," the bird complained. "Always trying to get around a good pair of wings."

"Well, at least I'm trying out having a pair," Heracross replied and flung himself forward into a strong kick while his opponent was still clearly getting a handle on how their flight had changed. "That- Crap, you okay?" he reacted as Pidgeotto fell out of the air from the strike. He quickly flapped after and caught the bird.

"Uh, maybe," the dazed bird replied, and then vanished as they were recalled.

"I'm still up for another fight," Heracross complained. He didn't think he had hit that hard, but it was always hard to tell how things worked out when you changed an opponent's types around.

"Heracross is staying out," Alexa informed the Gym Leader.

"If he's sure," Whitney declared, and then sent out a Miltank. Heracross had a plan for this pokemon, he thought as the cow pokemon immediately curled into a ball, and it would hopefully save him from a powerful Rock typed attack. His Fighting type partially countered the Flying type weakness, but from his time as part Bug he knew it was still a viable counter to him.

"Stay at range," Alexa ordered. "She can only jump so far in the air." The meaning was more that there was a limit to where Miltank could get in any single arc rather than that high enough was a safe place in general to fly, but Heracross could work with it.

Heracross made sure to send a dense cloud of dust at Miltank for the first arc, but the Normal type angled her path around it in mid air. "Careful, Sand Attack is still dangerous to Rollout," Whitney instructed her pokemon, and Heracross smiled at that. If it was Sand Attack that might have been useful advice.

Heracross had not actually done any damage before the third cloud caught Miltank. "Who said I was using Sand Attack?" he asked as Miltank suddenly went from hide to chitin. It was an interesting change, with the pokemon staying pink and black, but her body changing into a large beetle as the plates of a Bug type formed to make up her surface. The Miltank's overall shape had not changed very much at all, but still enough to knock her out of Rollout in a flailing of now mobile back-shell pieces that possibly had some vaguely usable wings.

"Now I think I can handle you from the air better," Heracross joked as both Gym Leader and Miltank appeared to need a moment to process what had happened.

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The next day Alexa, now a Mephagic, had the entire private phone call room to herself. Her team could come out if really needed, except for Charizard. Her Starter was in another private room to have the first voiced conversation of his life with his human parents thanks to the translator.

"Alexa, good to finally see you again," her father laughed as the call connected. Professor Larch was currently human, which Alexa was honestly glad to see, but her mother appeared to be a Vespikiln again.

"Hi dad, hi mom," Alexa started. "Vespikiln again?" she had to ask.

"It turns out that we were not as careful as we thought with cleaning up bedding. I got home and tried to do laundry and ended up like this," her mother complained. "Thank Maizie again for us. That discovery about pokeballs for these forms has helped a whole lot."

"I can manage that, I'm fairly sure she wants me to call again," Alexa agreed easily and tried to work out what to cover next. "Did you get everything I sent from Celebi?"

"You mean the massive pile of rare fruit? Including two different examples of something that gives pokemon the Dragon type? Well one that gives the type but makes you sick if you eat another, and one that only gives the type with a bit more work," her father laughed. "Yes, we got all of that and your new Contagion too. I've ran the test on that last one that you asked for already, and I think I've found a magical sensor upgrade module for your Pokedex that will let you test those metaphysical properties yourself. You should get it soon if you stay in Goldenrod a few more days, and you can compare to my own results."

Alexa breathed a sigh of relief at that. "Good, I want to be able to at least verify that what we come up with isn't immediately permanent," she admitted. "It didn't seem likely for that one, but I had been looking at the plants I could identify and some of them worried me with how they fell into that category. 'Cannonball Coconut' sounded like it could be a problem if it tasted good enough."

"It is honestly hard enough for a pokemon to eat enough of one of those to get the Steel type, let alone making it permanent, but I understand the concern," her father clarified. "There were some interesting ones in that group. The 'Sharp Bamboo' is one of the fairly rare Fighting type options I've been looking for, and there was a 'Frozen Pinecone' for the Ice type you asked about among them too."

"Yeah, I hope that you will be able to grow more of them," Alexa said. "Celebi didn't give me too many of any of them, so I didn't want to use them up myself. That's why I got some Rime Dust for the Ice type instead." She kind of wanted to get started on that soon, but without an upcoming Gym match it would be harder to book a training field for it. "Oh, what happened during your tests of Vipercury that delayed things?"

"Well, we actually didn't get a chance to test anything," her mother laughed. "We started asking around for a good place to ask for volunteers, and then Viridian Gym calls us up. Apparently Leader Oak had been looking for any information at all on Vipercury for months."

"Leader Gary Oak went on an expedition that found a temple over the break between Leagues," her father continued. "And there he found out the hard way it was for a Mercurial Ninetails. It seems we nearly didn't have a Viridian Gym this year because he had been stuck as a Vipercury himself for months."

"Months?" Alexa had to ask, outright confused. The issue with that form where you made more of what changed you was the same as for Vespikiln, and she had managed that one on her own easily enough. "How?"

"He didn't know what caused the change, and it isn't like he developed his own move just to restore pokemon to their original form," her mother teased her. "He didn't grab a tail, but he also didn't know why he was changed other than some insults from the Ninetails, who we think also did not actually know why she could change some humans."

"Leader Oak had tried quite a few curse breaking methods, but had been too careful about keeping the liquid metal he made while sleeping safely away from other people," her father specified. "The Ninetails said that sleeping along with others would spread the curse, but didn't say anything about the metal being the cause. He had been cleaning it up somewhat himself, but not carefully enough because he only focused on not letting anyone else touch the somewhat toxic metal. Apparently the rest of the expedition group was not effected by the Contagion."

"Wait, was this before or after we accidentally made another Mercurial Ninetails?" Alexa questioned, now that she considered the timeline. "I thought that he had those expeditions early in the break so there was more time to go over what they find."

"A while before then," her father answered. "I did get a request about that change, but the focus was on if the newly evolved pokemon could cast any special 'curses' on people, and, well, we didn't exactly think of the Contagion like that."

"So, I taught some of his pokemon Contagion Cure, and he maybe hinted that it seemed like the kind of move that a Legendary pokemon teaches others," her mother admitted. "So, we might have said that Charizard isn't quite a normal Charizard."

"Celebi told us that my entire team counts, me included of course," Alexa replied with a cringe. "So that isn't exactly wrong."

"Your entire team?" Professor Larch asked, and it was a Professor question rather than a dad one from the tone. "Did she explain why?"

"We learned things that most pokemon don't," Alexa answered, perhaps a bit vaguely. "We also might have asked for some lessons about more of those things." It took her a moment to realize she had answered as a Legendary pokemon instead of a daughter.

Her mother laughed at the exchange. "Well, I see you two will be able to handle professional interaction now that you've grown up, Alexa," Alexandria Larch joked. "Although I really did not expect my daughter to end up with 'Legendary Pokemon' as a job." The Vespikiln collected herself at their twin glares over how it was not that funny. "Maybe we should move onto another topic, how did your latest Gym match go?"

"The last one went well," Alexa latched onto the change in topic that also avoided the Gym match she did not want to talk about. "Bellossom was able to use her Chlorophyll Jade without getting it broken, which is a good sign. Rhydon went for Poison/Grass to try out Acid Armor a bit because of a suggestion by William's Goodra, but it didn't really work out that differently from normal yet. Heracross had a good time with Fighting/Flying, and even took down two of Leader Whitney's team."

"Has Bellossom been able to include the Jade in with her defensive energy?" Move Tutor Alexandria Larch asked, but that at least was an easier to handle job title. "Because while that is hard for most pokemon, if she is Legendary too then it should be easier for her." Alexa reconsidered her thought about how that was a better job title. "That kind of extra energy is easier for them, kind of like how... Alexander, has our daughter always been able to infuse stuff better than most people." It was not really a question.

"I have no idea, there are not in fact research papers on human energy infusion beyond what clothing makers produce, and those don't cover the more exotic stuff that has to worry about that," her father immediately answered. "She could more than we can, but I don't know if that has increased further now that she is properly a Legendary."

"Not sure I want to test that," Alexa admitted. "But I do know that sort of thing applies to the main pokeball I have."

"Huh, well back to my first question, can Bellossom do it with the Jade?" her mother questioned.

"We think so from how it held up in training, but I worked with her mostly on keeping it from getting hit instead," Alexa more easily answered. "It did manage to hold up to glancing hits better than I expected."

"That's great then," her father said then changed topic. "How much experience do you have with Acid Armor? I know you went up against Josh's Vaporeon quite a bit, but it is usually a rare move."

"Well, I can only manage as a Lobasalt myself," Alexa started off thoughtfully. "It isn't too hard in that form, but I set really quickly like that." A clicking 'giggle' from her mother made Alexa realize he meant for her team. "Charizard and Bellossom both have been really fluid before, with Mercury Contagion forms that use it by default like a Muk. Mostly it has been Rhydon using something like it to keep mobile in a way that reduces physical damage."

"You've managed Acid Armor yourself with that one?" her mother said just as thoughtfully. "I've had requests for help with that move before, it is very rare and experts are quite valuable. I might have to try some more if it can help with that."

"The Contagion substances as a whole seem to provide something close to that ability fairly often," her father suggested. "We might want to see if the new Contagion is a good one to use."

"I'm still planning on making an Ice typed one before going over the Earthen Contagion," Alexa pointed out. "Or at least a good attempt, Charizard says it was harder than it looked to make Magma Contagion but I am hoping that we might be able to work out the baseline that makes them work in general."

"Well, it sounds like a good side project, but don't forget to work on your combat skills too," her mother laughed and buzzed up a small shimmer of heat. "Don't get so lost in changing that you miss out on practicing good ones. Like how Heracross apparently found one of those to win against two other pokemon?"

"He likes the combat ability of his Stable Cloud form," Alexa admitted. "Although it is one of the ones that is a bit more tricky to time. He likes Fighting too much to have easy options to make that one longer, so he's working out what he wants to keep up training with. It worked for the Gym before too," she added before she remembered that she did not want to talk about that one.

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Charizard was in his natural form for this. Alone in the room, because he was not about to explain anything about his hone life to anyone who didn't need to know it. "Right, they should have the phone clear today for this," he stalled for a moment before he finally gave in and made the call.

"Hello? Oh, Charles! Dear, Charles is on the phone!" his human mother answers, and Charizard can only sigh at both the name and the shuffle to get his human father there too, soon followed by his Charizard mother.

"Water-Son," his bio-mom said, and he remembered that there were in fact worse name options available to him. "Did you really gain that type truly?"

Charizard took this chance to drink from the bottle of altered water he brought just for that question. With a long drink he lost the Flying type and gained Water, along with a shift from wings to fins and a green flame. He also had vials of both Contagions on hand just in case they wanted to see them too. "Yeah, it works pretty well," he answered, and as expected his bio-mom just nodded in response, then the translator repeats his words and all of his parents on the other side paused. "So, where did 'Charles' come from?" he then asked now that his parents were aware that all of them could understand his speech.

"I still think it is cute," his bio-mom of all people replied. "You should be able to go back to the original last name. 'Charles Zard' is much better than 'Charles Larch'."

Charizard blinked at that. "Charles what?" Charizard demanded quietly and firmly. "You named a Charmander 'Charles Zard'?" he specified so his translator could inform his human parents.

"We actually name all of you like that," his human mom answered smiling widely. "Your mother is 'Cindy Zard' for example."

"And your father 'Chuck Zard'," his human dad added with mirth. "Not to mention all of your brothers and sisters."

"This is not what I expected to share with my trainer," Charizard complained quietly as his human father went over the entire list. Although apparently not quiet enough to avoid the translator telling everyone he said it.

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Alexa was not sure how her father had managed to convince her mother not to burn down the Azalea Town Gym. Especially since he seemed to be in the mood to make former Leader Bugsy into a test subject for some of the more permanent options effects on humans. She in fact really hoped that she misheard him about how "Wisp's Breath needs a long term trial".

"Anyway, I'm using the League Badge, so I just need the last half of the League now," Alexa tried to change the topic. "That is the harder half, but I think it will also be where we can use things very well with a bit more work. I'm really hoping to make use of a few types I want to develop stuff for. Not to mention the Legendary stuff I need to work out what to do about."

"Legendary stuff you aren't officially telling us," her mother insisted. "Because there is a lot of paperwork about official Legendary pokemon, and some of it will cause you problems for a League."

"Possibly worse ones this year," her father added. "Leader Oak noted that the League asked him to try being a pokemon for the duration of the next League, publicly. I know you've decided to try that, but it is a bit much to be asking everyone."

"Yeah, William and Charizard are trying that out for this city, but I doubt we are going to stick with it," Alexa informed them. It was sort of working out, but getting around was a lot more annoying without someone who looked human in the group.

"So Charizard is being the trainer while you hide in a pokeball?" her mother teased.

"Charizard is being a trainer while I hide in a pokeball," Alexa unapologetically agreed. "But seriously, it has been alright. Only a couple of times where I actually did that, which given how Celadon would have gone if I had the option is an improvement."

"Didn't Charizard mysteriously manage to 'find' a bunch of things you weren't up for getting?" her father questioned.

"He is quite lucky I didn't know he could read and write back then," she agreed again.

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[Author's Note]
Thank you to XNerd2 on Sufficient Velocity and UnderseaWings on Spacebattles for the two Dragon typed fruit ideas. The fact I got two of those made it seem like an interesting thing to put in first.
XNerd2 is also responsible for the Cannonball Coconut.
zagan on Sufficient Velocity was responsible for the Sharp Bamboo and Frozen Pinecone.
I want to thank everyone who submitted ideas in the threads. I do hope to use more of them as we go on, and perhaps even go into more detail than just a mention for these ones. I will be posting an informational with the full set of ideas and links after this.
 
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Typechange Crowd Sourced Ideas

Here is the rough collection of all item ideas given so far with links. I mean rough, I don't have the willpower to really clean this up.
Current up to 9/14/2024.


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XNerd2
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I have an idea, a Dragon typed fruit that tastes delicious to most Pokemon, but only Fairy types can safely eat more than one or two at a time because the dragon typing is the plant's defense mechanism against most Pokemon just ruining the seeds. Once the typing kicks in eating any more fruit...

I have an idea, a Dragon typed fruit that tastes delicious to most Pokemon, but only Fairy types can safely eat more than one or two at a time because the dragon typing is the plant's defense mechanism against most Pokemon just ruining the seeds. Once the typing kicks in eating any more fruit will cause the dragon typings to cross react making the hapless Pokemon violently ill.

I also have a goofy idea for a Steel typed coconut, that is nicknamed the "Cannonball Coconut," that due to a, sadly apocryphal, legend was used by marooned pirates as ammunition to shoot something they could actually eat without needing high explosives or a modern machine shop to drill into.

Edit: I just thought of something, ANY Pokemon could be a legendary in waiting, it just requires the extreme willpower to keep banging your head against the wall until not just the wall breaks but physics does as well. Hmm, I wonder if that's why so many Legendaries are so... eccentric? I mean nobody normal would consider taking gardening tips from Doc Brown and expand upon them....


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I was going for a Dragon typed fruit actually, after all only Dragon types and Ghost types are weak to themselves. Basically it gives them a minor overdose in typed energy, which Fairies are completely immune to anyways so it doesn't stick to them, barring said Fairy outright gorging themselves...

-E.I.G. said:
-Sounds like an interesting idea for a fairly rare one.
-A Fairy typed, and thus bad for Dragon types, fruit that turns anyone without the Fairy type into a Dragon type.
-Any ideas about what exactly it does to pokemon to make them into Dragons?

I was going for a Dragon typed fruit actually, after all only Dragon types and Ghost types are weak to themselves. Basically it gives them a minor overdose in typed energy, which Fairies are completely immune to anyways so it doesn't stick to them, barring said Fairy outright gorging themselves on the fruit, I suppose.

-E.I.G. said:
-A nice kind of non-transformative fruit from the sounds of it, although something that if you do get through the shell to make you Steel typed enough to eat more sounds like it could be fun.

I figure it could easily lead to a permanent steel typing if you eat more than one full coconut in a given sitting, due to how extremely dense the steel typed energy would be in order to be so tough. The real trick is getting it open without ruining most of the meat due to said durability. Oddly enough the juice doesn't have much energy in it so it's perfectly safe to drink.


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For a ghost type I could imagine some kind of cursed mirror, considering the whole other world thing associated with them, that and Giratina's direct association with using mirrors to cross the barrier of the Reverse World in the movies. Of course there's also the old joke about ghost type...

For a ghost type I could imagine some kind of cursed mirror, considering the whole other world thing associated with them, that and Giratina's direct association with using mirrors to cross the barrier of the Reverse World in the movies.

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zagan
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There's still something that confuses me about the fact that Alexa is considered a Legendary pokemon. Her ability to change the type of other pokemon is not (yet?) an inherent ability of hers, she's still mostly dependent on external items. She did learn how to create some, mercury and magma...

I don't remember any Fighting type transformation, so let's try to create one.
Bamboo might be a good starting point. A lot of martial art use bamboo in their training.
Bamboo Shoots that give the fighting type, with a tendency toward giving plant or steel as secondary. Often give claws or horns that allow the use of Sword-like moves, like Sacred Sword.


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So we could consider Alexa and her team to be One Legendary Pokemon collectivelly. A little like Zygarde if you squint, one legendary made of multiple elements. Glad you like it. Still, need a name, Sharp Bamboo? Here's another one. Frozen Pinecone. It would give the Ice type obviously. Perhaps...

Glad you like it. Still, need a name, Sharp Bamboo?
Here's another one.
Frozen Pinecone. It would give the Ice type obviously. Perhaps instead of transforming the body, it would cover it with a layer of ice.
So in addition to changing type, you'll lose a lot in speed but gain a lot in defense.


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After reading the last chapter I got an idea that just wouldn't leave me so here it is. It's a mix between a type-changing item and a mini-omake. Rainbow Prism: This unique artifact, is a multicolored fist-sized gemstone with 18 facets* that was created by the Legendary pokemon/Human Alexa...


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Bloodalchemy
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There are plants that have massive boosts to growth or seed production after being burned in a wildfire. So a forest bush/vine that when burned, the smoke gives pokemon the grass type. Deathworld route would be so that grass pokemon burn easier in the fire so their dead bodies would give...

There are plants that have massive boosts to growth or seed production after being burned in a wildfire. So a forest bush/vine that when burned, the smoke gives pokemon the grass type.

Deathworld route would be so that grass pokemon burn easier in the fire so their dead bodies would give nutrients to the new plants.

Good Pokemon route would be so the temp grass types would constantly shed seeds as they walk around.

For max pun, it's called Smoke Weed.
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How about a reverse type item? Cactus are great at absorbing water. So a cactus that nullifies Water type when eaten. Could be a good item for water trainers against an electric gym.


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Another idea, the irl mushroom that inspired parasect infects ants, grows in the brain killing the ant, then puppets the zombie ants body to a high place to spread its fungi spores. I'm sure some culture would have parasect mushrooms as a traditional food. So you could have someone try to grow...

Another idea, the irl mushroom that inspired parasect infects ants, grows in the brain killing the ant, then puppets the zombie ants body to a high place to spread its fungi spores.

I'm sure some culture would have parasect mushrooms as a traditional food. So you could have someone try to grow the mushrooms without needing a parasect.

Turns out that when not grown in a pokemon the mushroom has odd effects. I cant decide if it gives Bug or Ghost type. Bug for the in world parasect connection, Ghost for the irl connection.

Edit: my ideas are super dark today.

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Wyvern
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Hm, it seems like you'd have to be really careful with type-removing stuff, given that single-type pokemon exist? Unless it just turns them human, I guess, which would be a kindof amusing bit of symmetry... As for type-changing plants, I posit the fel-creeper: a rare parasitic* vine that lives...

As for type-changing plants, I posit the fel-creeper: a rare parasitic* vine that lives in the deep jungle, in places where light never gets to the forest floor. Its amazingly-sweet fruits grant the Dark type to pokemon eating them... which grants them a weakness to the bug-type pokemon that tend to pollinate the vines.

* Parasitic, in this context, meaning 'sinks its roots into trees', rather than the creepier example of pokemon like Paras. Though, well, plant-type pokemon are also a thing, so I suppose you could also plant the vine in a plant pokemon to apply a longer-lasting secondary Dark type, along the lines of the Frozen Flame... (Edit: ...But it would probably die pretty quickly if you took it out into direct sunlight, so that's maybe not so useful.)

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Suggestion -Spoon gourds: These gourds grow in very hot climates often on the edges of the desert and look like spoons. Humans in the region have traditionally used the gourds as eating utensils by splitting them in half and drying them out. The gourd itself is rarely eaten as it gives humans...

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[I really like the idea of transformatives which are dangerous or our right harmful to some pokemon] Observation Log: Reithe Desert This desert is considered one of the hottest locations on the planet. However, classifying the stretch of land as a desert is controversial due to the...

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w34v3r
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Nemesis Nettle: This plant is covered in sharp hooks and spines that secrete a sap when jostled, this sap converts a target to a type it's normally weak against. Null Blossom: this flower feeds on type energy around it and it's color changes based on the energy it's fed upon.

Nemesis Nettle: This plant is covered in sharp hooks and spines that secrete a sap when jostled, this sap converts a target to a type it's normally weak against.

Null Blossom: this flower feeds on type energy around it and it's color changes based on the energy it's fed upon.

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Mr. Cloak
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If you mix three or more different elemental foods together they resonate and turn into Punch Punch. A punch that makes the drinker a fighting type on their secondary and lets them punch better! And to make a third fruit... How about a Ground Apple? Found when a tree was uprooted in an area...

If you mix three or more different elemental foods together they resonate and turn into Punch Punch.
A punch that makes the drinker a fighting type on their secondary and lets them punch better!

And to make a third fruit... How about a Ground Apple? Found when a tree was uprooted in an area with a very strong ground-type element, and turned out that the apple tree that wasn't bearing fruit on the top was bearing it on the bottom! Tastes like potatoes, eaten and cultivated by Digglet. (Overrides primary type)

Or an ice-mint! Literally mint that, if eaten, gives the ice type for a day (overrides primary type).

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I've noticed there hasn't really been a rock one yet, so here we go: Silica Bath! Black sand formed from crushed volcanic rock created by a Heatran, it will replace a Fire type's secondary type with Rock after taking a thorough sand bath. The skin will be greatly toughened, with numerous...
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Silica Bath Black sand formed from crushed volcanic rock created by a Heatran, it will replace a Fire type's secondary type with Rock after taking a thorough sand bath. The skin will be greatly toughened, with numerous rock-like osteoderms, as well as taking a darker coloration. Density greatly...

I've noticed there hasn't really been a rock one yet, so here we go: Silica Bath!

Black sand formed from crushed volcanic rock created by a Heatran, it will replace a Fire type's secondary type with Rock after taking a thorough sand bath. The skin will be greatly toughened, with numerous rock-like osteoderms, as well as taking a darker coloration. Density greatly increases, and some of the osteoderms 'weep' molten glass. Increased effectiveness of "sand" type moves, and enables use of the signature move "Glass Storm," similar to Sandstormbut less long-lived and upon ending, it creates a field effect like Spikes and Stealth Rock.


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.....I'm having a thought. It does kinda lift a few ideas from DSS, but they're combined in a hopefully semi-novel way? Restless Mask This bone mask was cursed by a restless ghost that resides within it. The mask will resize itself to whoever it holding it. When worn by a Pokemon, it will fuse...
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Silica Bath Black sand formed from crushed volcanic rock created by a Heatran, it will replace a Fire type's secondary type with Rock after taking a thorough sand bath. The skin will be greatly toughened, with numerous rock-like osteoderms, as well as taking a darker coloration. Density greatly...

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I don't think there's been a Fighting type item yet. Thinking about the Fighting type, it's a little hard to come up with an item, since it's oddly metaphysical and physical at the same time? So trying to think what a Fighting type transformation looks like is hard. But I think this'll do? I'm...
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There was some bamboo by zagan here, but that does look like a nice one that would work for something Alexa already knew about but dismissed for having no physical effects. Which was a thing that happened in the first story when I also struggled with the Fighting type, it is just awkward to find...
Urshifu Headband

The discarded headband of an Urshifu, the strong Fighting type energy has soaked into the fabric over the years of wear. After tying the headband around their head, the wearer will be able to tap into the Urshifu's accumulated kinesthetic genius: their muscle memory, in other words. The wearer will have their primary typing switched to a secondary typing, and have it replace with a new primary Fighting type. The joints of the wearer will also loosen, allowing for a wider and smoother range of motion. To obtain any effect from wearing the headband, the Pokemon must be organic and have a vaguely humanoid body type: a set of clearly defined legs, clearly defined arms, and a head. [EX:Ledian would gain the benefits, as it has but Ledian or Centiskorch would not, as their is no distinction between their legs and arms. Golurk has the correct body type, but is inorganic, so it would gain no benefits.] Pure and primary Fighting types who wear the headband only gain the benefits of muscle memory, secondary Fighting types have their primary and secondary type switched, but otherwise again only benefit from the muscle memory.

When worn by humans, physical strength and flexibility are greatly increased. Gaining of Fighing type is inconsistent, thus far. Some become Fighting type, some don't. There is anecdotal evidence that martial artists/boxers/people with a high degree of physical fitness seem to gain the type more easily, but sample sizes are too small to state for certain. The extent to which the wearer gains access to the Urshifu's muscle memory varies, with wearer who don't gain the Fighting type barely gaining the benefit, with wearers that have above average Fighting type energy being able to do full katas and moves. Elite Four member Bruno was even able to utilize Wicked Blow. There have been no recorded changes into a Pokemon while wearing an Urshifu Headband...yet?


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When thinking up the Urshifu Band, I kept going back and forth between it having a permanent physical effect when taken off, like it constantly was improving your baseline physique, but I just couldn't get it to sound exactly right. THe best one I had was it was increasing the number of muscle...
When thinking up the Urshifu Band, I kept going back and forth between it having a permanent physical effect when taken off, like it constantly was improving your baseline physique, but I just couldn't get it to sound exactly right. THe best one I had was it was increasing the number of muscle fibres(myofibrillar hypertrophy) while also slightly decreasing the size of the muscle fibres, so in effect muscle density greatly increased while muscle size only changed a little.....but it just seemed more of the same kind of invisible changes.

Does make me think if the main difference in between Fighting type and other Pokemon is something with their muscles. Different types of muscle fiber, so comparing a non-Fighting type to a Fighting type is like comparing a humans and chimps.


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Landscape Moss(Dryad Moss, Ent Moss, Wandering Moss) When affixed to a Pokemon, the Pokemon's primary type becomes strongly Grass(the former Primary and secondary become secondary and tertiary typings). The Moss rapidly grows, and covers most of the Pokemon, as well as spreading a short...
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Reposting from SV! Landscape Moss(Dryad Moss, Ent Moss, Wandering Moss) When affixed to a Pokemon, the Pokemon's primary type becomes strongly Grass(the former Primary and secondary become secondary and tertiary typings). The Moss rapidly grows, and covers most of the Pokemon, as well as...


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I was thinking of some sort of crystalline transformation and this pun came to me and I just had to get it out. Lattice Lettuce This crystalline vegetable grows deep, deep underground. It is sometimes observed to be tended by Carbink in the area. The crystal is very low on the hardness scale...


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Well, I stretched the truth a little bit, they're not all Fighting, but they all look plausibly Fighting type to me, so good enough. This is what I got, but something about it doesn't feel quite right. Needs something, but I don't know what. Edit: added section on transformation reversal


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Had an idea for one that actually changes both primary and secondary type! It's kind of like an immobile Clearwater Geode, but with a twist. A little derivative, I know, but it's a Monday. My brain don't work yet. Purest Rainwater Basin This water is created when the clean rain from a Kyogre's...


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Had another idea for a transformation item! I'm on a roll today! Calyrex Grape Leaves These leaves come from grape vines in Calyrex's personal vineyard. When held in the mouth, a Pokemon will gain a secondary Grass typing or replacing its existing secondary typing with Grass. The Pokemon will...
Had another idea for a transformation item! I'm on a roll today!
Calyrex Grape Leaves

These leaves come from grape vines in Calyrex's personal vineyard. When held in the mouth, a Pokemon will gain a secondary Grass typing or replacing its existing secondary typing with Grass. The Pokemon will grow vines out of their body, forming a thick protective layer of woody vines with thinner vines forming decorative knotwork patterns on top, as well as a laurel wreath like crest on the head. The transformed Pokemon will gain an instinctive knowledge of how to use Vine Whip and Power Whip, as well as Bind and Constrict. This transformation lasts for as long as the Pokemon can hold the Leaf in its mouth, without breaking it, swallowing it, or spitting it out. Eventually, the leaf will dissolve, but the strong Grass type energy of Calyrex means that process will take longer than you think. Particularly determined individuals can maintain the transformation for weeks. When the transformation ends, the vines wither away, leaving the Pokemon unharmed.

Attempted reuse of the Leaf is both unsanitary and ineffective.
My main idea here was a combo of the difficult part of the Animagus transformation from Harry Potter and basically a wooden version of how Rachel from Worm powers up her dogs. But less gruesome to undo.


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Had an idea that might be a fun(read:not enjoyable for most people) transformation! Felt like adding a little spicy risk of permanency as well. Century Shed Certain snake-morph Pokemon undergo limited senescence, meaning they do not age in a meaningful way. These snake Pokemon simply continue...


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Oooooh I just had an idea for an item that could cause some Mayhem. I might think of a better name for it later, but for now I'm gonna call it a Swap/Storage Fluorite. I'm envisioning a small translucent gemstone that comes in many different colors. When touched by someone, depending on the...

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The Acoustic Caves: The caverns echo and resonate, amplifying each whisper until you cant tell who or where it came from. Pokemon that follow them all the way from the entrance to the exit find that they have gained a sonic "theme" and have far greater ability with sound based moves.

The Acoustic Caves:
The caverns echo and resonate, amplifying each whisper until you cant tell who or where it came from.
Pokemon that follow them all the way from the entrance to the exit find that they have gained a sonic "theme" and have far greater ability with sound based moves.

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Fair enough. Could be both. And, because I had an idea for a transformation item… Tear of Jirachi Due to Jirachi’s rarity and the brevity of it’s active time before it returns to the crystal shell it takes on while inactive, this material is extremely rarely found. When Jirachi experience...


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To be honest, I just forgot to think about duration or reversion requirements. But it being permanent does make some sense… I didn’t go into any real detail on the post, it was a bit more stream-of-consciousness than planned, but my idea was that the tear triggering the transformation wasn’t...
-I like the idea of this seemingly permanent Psychic type change. It is something that technically does what Alexa's group wanted with a Psychic typechange, but sounds permanent which they were deliberately avoiding.

To be honest, I just forgot to think about duration or reversion requirements. But it being permanent does make some sense… I didn't go into any real detail on the post, it was a bit more stream-of-consciousness than planned, but my idea was that the tear triggering the transformation wasn't consistent, the exact catalyst for the transformation is uncertain. The same Pokémon can use the tear off and on for days for the empathic traits and not transform, only to pick it up one day and transform within minutes. Or another Pokémon might touch one for the first time and transform within the hour.

(My idea is that while the catalyst is not known to anyone researching it, the actual requirement for the transformation is matching the emotions that Jirachi felt when the tear was created. The same mix of anger, fear and pain; or joy and excitement depending on the tear.)


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To some degree I was inspired by this incident, in that while most transformations seem to be harmless (at least with natural precautions like “don’t cover nearby people with unusual body materials”), the occasional one is less so. Gray Scale An oddly gray-colored piece of ice discovered in...

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I was going to say that every pure Fighting type, at least, either wears something or wields something, but then I thought to check and found too many exceptions. Also a few exceptions to the humanoid-shape trend, even beyond the Swords of Justice and Zamazenta. Still, even though its absence...
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I tend to think of Moon Stones (which are probably about as abundant as Fire, Thunder, Water, Leaf, and Ice Stones) as being Normal-typed, despite being just as strongly associated with the Fairy type. (There's also a Psychic-type evolution and a Poison-to-Poison/Ground evolution for the Moon...
Artificial Clay

This substance (which resembles non-drying modelling clay) was made by powdering and wetting the matrix rock or sediment surrounding evolution stones, in an attempt to artificially replicate the process that gives rise to Mundane Clay. The makers underestimated how metaphysically sensitive the process is, and infused their product not with mundanity but with artificiality.

The effect of rubbing Artificial Clay on a pokémon is highly inconsistent. It generally has no effect on pokémon known or suspected to have an artificial origin, such as Porygon, Castform, or Golett. Among pokémon Artificial Clay does affect, it usually changes their type to Normal and changes their form to resemble a plasticine model of themselves, but leaves both mutable. The details of that mutability are themselves variable: some pokémon become capable of at-will shapeshifting and typechanging like Porygon; some become sensitive to environmental stimuli like Castform; others change in still other ways.

The one consistent thing about Artificial Clay transformations is that they very conveniently last until the pokémon decides they don't want it, at which point they end immediately.


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This has been knocking around in my head for a while... Burnwillow WandBurnwillows (also written burn-willows) are willow trees that grow over deposits of Fire Stones. Originally described under the name Salix ignifolium, it has since been discovered that multiple otherwise-mundane species of...
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Sorry for the delay! Burnwillows are directly inspired by a single M:tG card, Grove of the Burnwillows, and someone (I forget who) who has a Grovyle of the Burnwillows as an avatar here or on SB. If we go by the card (and what I had in mind when I was writing about the wand), a burnwillow's...


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Because my brain, I immediately thought to make this even more complicated. Making soft-serve ice cream from Miltank Contagion would turn it into Vanilluxe Contagion, obviously. Yogurt is fermented, like kefir, which could easily count enough as "spoiled" to neutralise the Contagion. Fresh...
Because my brain, I immediately thought to make this even more complicated. Making soft-serve ice cream from Miltank Contagion would turn it into Vanilluxe Contagion, obviously. Yogurt is fermented, like kefir, which could easily count enough as "spoiled" to neutralise the Contagion. Fresh cheeses (anything from fresh curds to mozzarella) would preserve Miltank Contagion, but mouldy cheeses instead turn it into Fungal Contagion, which transforms anyone who eats it into a random/appropriate mushroom Pokémon.


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I was doing a bit of re-reading, and noticed that I never shared an idea I had for Florabedtor. It stretches the definition of "flower", but it's seasonally appropriate! If a Florabedtor somehow comes to visit the Distortion World, they will naturally become a Ghost type. Rather than the...


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A miscellany of transformation/type-change ideas and musings... First, in reference to the idiom "like death warmed over" for "very, very ill", and in celebration of the fact that I no longer sound like death warmed over, I submit the Fake-Out Flu, which is I believe the thread's first...


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Inspired by Oricorio (and its signature Ability Dancer) and Porygon, I've come up with a couple Dance moves that are further variations on the theme of Conversion/Reflect Type. Mimicry Dance: The user dances to evoke the primary type of the target, thus changing their own primary type to match...
Inspired by Oricorio (and its signature Ability Dancer) and Porygon, I've come up with a couple Dance moves that are further variations on the theme of Conversion/Reflect Type.

Mimicry Dance: The user dances to evoke the primary type of the target, thus changing their own primary type to match. If the user has a secondary type, this move normally leaves it unchanged; if it's the same as the target's primary type, however, it becomes what the user's primary had been. Because it has a similar thematic logic to Mirror Move (the original Japanese name of which translates to "Parrot Mimicry"), Mimicry Dance shares the property of being unexpectedly Flying-type.

Peruperu: The user dances with such aggression that they become a type that would be super effective against the target; the target flinches.


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Primewdial Ooze: Extremely rare substance that is obtained from a hot springs that is regularly visited by a Mew. The Mew sheds hair/fur while enjoying the hot springs, leaving behind genetic information that is dissolved by the heat and dissolvent properties of water. With time, pockets of...

Primewdial Ooze:

Extremely rare substance that is obtained from a hot springs that is regularly visited by a Mew. The Mew sheds hair/fur while enjoying the hot springs, leaving behind genetic information that is dissolved by the heat and dissolvent properties of water. With time, pockets of primewdial ooze, a soft pink gel, pop up in the hot springs. Consumption of this substance turns the subject into a Ditto, and if not used, the substance eventually births a new ditto.

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Fairy gossamer- a pinkish fabric, contact with a pokemon will cause them to gain the fairy type and have fairy gossomer sprout from their body, usually in the form of clothing or hair. The fairy gossamer can be controlled with practice, and similar to the Contagions the transformation lasts as...

Fairy gossamer- a pinkish fabric, contact with a pokemon will cause them to gain the fairy type and have fairy gossomer sprout from their body, usually in the form of clothing or hair. The fairy gossamer can be controlled with practice, and similar to the Contagions the transformation lasts as long as gossamer is attached, meaning it must be shaved off to revert forms. Figured since the only two themes really present in Fairy types are "pink" and "cloth that's part of the body/animate hair" I would just combine the two.

Spectral Memento- objects that have absorbed enough ghost typed energy to become ghost pokemon but failed at actually animating into one, spectral mementos can be used to grant a ghost type, while also transforming the user into an animate mass of whatever the spectral memento is an object of. For instance, if Charizard used a fork, he'd become a Charizard shaped being of metal, with fork tines for teeth, claws, and wings.

Regi moss- A type of moss originally found growing on Regigas, consumption removes the user's secondary type and turns them into an animate mass of their primary type.

Reins of unity- If this works on people besides Calyrex, it would fit, linking the mount and rider's energy so closely they're more like a two-headed pokemon than separate pokemon, creating a single pokemon with the primary type of the rider's primary type and a secondary type of the mounts primary type. It didn't transform Calyrex and their mount, but that could be handwaved by saying that due to Calyrex's severe weakening all of the energy went to alleviating the metaphysical equivalent of starvation, with none left over to cause transformation. That this lets you have Mephagic Alexa and Charizard combine into a poison/fire type or some similar event is also a neat bonus.

Magic powder- this move already seems to fit a type-changing substance really well, and like chitin powder you could say it takes a while to settle in order to have a more lengthy duration than just a battle. Alternatively, you could say the more potent form can only be found near large groups of Hatterene/Gigantamax Hatterene

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Fallen Star- Wishing Stars and other Eternmax fragments drained of power, these have only been recently created due to Macro Cosmos's use of Galat particles. Similar to the frozen flame, this is embedded in a pokemon and grants either the dragon or poison type. Poison type causes the pokemon to emit glowing energy from their mouths and eyes and develop glowing spots on their body, while dragon type turns them into a black substance similar to Eternatus with glowing joints. In both cases the glow corresponds to their other type, and for pokemon who become dragon/poison they match Eternatus even more, transforming into to a dark, draconic skeleton with flesh made of red energy. In all cases they gain similar traits to Eternatus, losing the ability to generate typed energy when low on it, but gaining the ability to absorb energy of their types and increased capacity of typed energy as well as generating large amounts of energy when near full.

They can also absorb Galar Particles, although lose the ability to dynamax as all Galar Particles absorbed are fed into the Fallen Star. Absorbing enough Galar Particles will result in it turning back into a wishing star and falling off the pokemon as their transformation reverts. Research has shown that pokemon transformed by Fallen Stars can absorb enough Galar Particles to forcibly revert Dynamax Pokemon and temporarily prevent Dynamaxing in their vicinity, which has caused the government of Galar to start stockpiling them in case of another Darkest Day.

Use on Pokemon who are Fairy/Steel or originally Dragon/Poison is not recommended.


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Nah. It’s more that, much like a Grass-type who learned to manipulate time became a Celebi, there’s a good chance a Fairy/Steel type who learns how to be extra effective against dynamax pokemon or a Dragon/Poison who learns how to generate and absorb Galar Particles will turn into a...
-Proginoskes said:
-As is often the case, the emphasis on "not recommended" reminded me of the Errantry Concordance entry for eversion. To evert is to turn inside-out. This makes me imagine that there's something that turns a being's energy structure inside-out, for some value of the term. Possibly it would make a Pokémon's typed energy tightly constrained (effectively human), and loosen a human's typed energy to the point of expression.

Nah.
It's more that, much like a Grass-type who learned to manipulate time became a Celebi, there's a good chance a Fairy/Steel type who learns how to be extra effective against dynamax pokemon or a Dragon/Poison who learns how to generate and absorb Galar Particles will turn into a Zacian/Zamazenta or Eternatus, respectively.
And while few people would have a problem with more Zacian/Zamazenta, no one wants a second Eternatus so they try to avoid any situation that might result in one.


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Got stuck thinking about that, and it caused me to make a robotic transformation item. Modular Widget- a body part belonging to one of the steel-type lines that evolve by fusing with each other such as the Beldum, Magnemite, and Klink lines. The transformation items are created by several...
Modular Widget- a body part belonging to one of the steel-type lines that evolve by fusing with each other such as the Beldum, Magnemite, and Klink lines. The transformation items are created by several cultures of their respective species that use their mechanical nature to undergo ritualistic transplants using the body parts of their ancestors. After undergoing repeated transplants, body parts will become sufficiently infused with Steel type energy and mystically aligned with fusing with somebody to act as a type-changing item for other species.

Contact with the item almost always causes the transformee to gain a steel type and a robotic form similar to the donor Pokémon line, with the item visibly integrated with the Pokémon's body. Removal of the item causes reversion, similar to the Frozen Flame. If one of the Pokémon's types matches the donor lines' non-Steel type, that type will be preserved in almost all known cases.

For an unknown reason, certain species of Pokémon instead transform into a consistent form regardless of the line the item originated from, and frequently gain a type instead of Steel despite their robotic appearance.

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Random idea time Sturdy paste This paste was intended to be a way of greatly increasing a pokemon’s defenses, as an alternative to X-defense. While it did increase test Pokémon’s defenses, it did so by physically changing their forms to be better suited towards defense. While the Pokémons types...
Sturdy paste
This paste was intended to be a way of greatly increasing a pokemon's defenses, as an alternative to X-defense. While it did increase test Pokémon's defenses, it did so by physically changing their forms to be better suited towards defense. While the Pokémons types didn't change, it still was considered to be a too extreme of an effect for the intended product to be viable, and never made it to the production stage.
The change reverse itself after about 4 hours.

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Idea for a transformative item: the entire team on the same type of Contagion (Mercury, Toxic or Magma) then have blood-equivalents drawn from them and mix them in the same manner used for creating that healing sap. Idea is that this creates a more 'potent' version of the contagion that...
Idea for a transformative item: the entire team on the same type of Contagion (Mercury, Toxic or Magma) then have blood-equivalents drawn from them and mix them in the same manner used for creating that healing sap.

Idea is that this creates a more 'potent' version of the contagion that, instead of simply changing their primary type, the new 'processed' contagion actually changes a pokemon into a monotype (Similar to the Terastal phenomenon for the upcoming pokemon game). Via this method, the Mercury, Toxic and Magma contagions become "[x] Type Converter Fluid" (I.E. Steel Converter Fluid, Poison Converter Fluid). These have extremely 'fucky' effects if the Converter Fluid matches the pokemon's 'Hidden Power' type.

Additionally, the Converter Fluids can be used to make Chlorophyll Jade equivalents when used to treat a depleted elemental stone. However, the effect is much weaker as the proper way to treat the stones haven't been discovered yet. Instead, the Chlorophyll Jade method is applied to the depleted Elemental Stones. In this case, the 'Converter Fluid Treated Stones" or CFTS merely changes the type of the Pokemon's 'Hidden Power' move rather than causing any outward changes.


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Character development for chesnaught... soon she'll be corrupted into being a type change maniac like the rest of them Idea for a transformative item: Reversion Fluid Made from Contagion Cure and Everstone Powder, mixed together using alchemy, Reversion Fluid can reverse level-based evolutions.
Reversion Fluid
Made from Contagion Cure and Everstone Powder, mixed together using alchemy, Reversion Fluid can reverse level-based evolutions.


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Hey I got an idea for you A method of preserving Chansey eggs in clay: Grind a spent evolution stone down to clay sized particles and mix it with alchemically purified water. Cover a Chansey Egg with the resulting paste, then dry with alchemically purified fire. After 72 hours, the [Typed]...
Hey I got an idea for you

A method of preserving Chansey eggs in clay:
Grind a spent evolution stone down to clay sized particles and mix it with alchemically purified water.

Cover a Chansey Egg with the resulting paste, then dry with alchemically purified fire.

After 72 hours, the [Typed] Chansey egg is done. When consumed, turns the pokemon that ate it into an appropriately typed chansey variant for 72 hours

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Well, here's one idea then. 'Reverse Prisms' Found either (rarely) in the reverse world or in places where portals and other openings to the reverse world have been frequently opened over long periods of time (IE, even more rarely), these crystal like items can cause an interesting reaction in...
Well, here's one idea then.

'Reverse Prisms'
Found either (rarely) in the reverse world or in places where portals and other openings to the reverse world have been frequently opened over long periods of time (IE, even more rarely), these crystal like items can cause an interesting reaction in those exposed to them while they are refracting light from both the normal world and the reverse world at the same time. To be precise, if a pokemon has a primary type and a secondary type, those types will reverse so that their secondary type becomes their primary type and their primary type becomes their secondary type until the next dawn or nightfall.

This is (very loosely) inspired by a sword a character I played in a game long ago had, which could reveal ghosts and other undead because it was forged from underworld crystals and so light refracted through it would count as underworld light, which made me think about magic crystals and then I just decided to take the name of a 'Reverse Prism' literally and have it... well, reverse a pokemon's types. And the 'until dawn breaks or nightfall sets' just seemed an appropriately fairytail/magical ending clause. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.


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'Zenith Berry' A plant associated with the rare legendary pokemon known as Marshadow, Zenith Berries can be found where Marshadows have repeatedly entered the special form change known as 'Zenith Mode', and are said to have resulted from a portion of their fighting spirit rubbing off on the...
'Zenith Berry'
A plant associated with the rare legendary pokemon known as Marshadow, Zenith Berries can be found where Marshadows have repeatedly entered the special form change known as 'Zenith Mode', and are said to have resulted from a portion of their fighting spirit rubbing off on the plantlife around them. The plantlife then promptly shoved all that fighting spirit into said berries to get the spiritual contamination away from them... at least according to myth. The berries do give pokemon that eat them the Fighting type for the following day however, unless they are ghosts, in which case they tend to be stuck with the fighting type for around a week before the change wears off. As a generally tendency, the change tends to be one that either awakens, amplifies, or involves the energy known as 'Aura' that Lucario in particular are known for controlling, and some connections have been suggested with the supportive aura shown by the Alola region's Totem pokemon.

For a less meme version of what's basically the same idea.


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Speaking of type changing items, here's a new one I just thought up of. Bloodright Helix These strange items have only recently been discovered, and seem to be accidentally generated as cast off and extra material caused by running certain forms of fossil revival machines. When properly...


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Miraidon Shard A rare item caused as a side effect when a high powered Miraidon engages in battle and sheds a scale that ends up somehow trapping some of that Miraidon's vital energy within itself, these items are named due to their shining appearance, looking to the casual eye as if they were...


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So DSS probably has a clue from all the energy-less universes they've been running into then? Also, on another note, and speaking of DSS... Distilled Ichor An exceedingly rare item created from a substance generated by an even more exceedingly obscure legendary known as Basirablemon, Distilled...


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Type Dial One of the many kinds of ancient artifacts created by one or another long lost civilization, a Type Dial visually appears akin to a sundial, only with the elemental type symbols replacing the normal 'which hour is it when the shadow is here' symbols and an empty hole where the fin that...


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Gotcha. Here’s mine… Origin Sand Every so often, one may find a desert in a nonsensical place. It’s not in the rain shadow of any mountains, it’s right in the path of an ocean-to-land air current, et cetera, and yet… rain (and sometimes low clouds) just seems to go out of its way to avoid...


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It is related to Origin Sand, but it’s got an entirely different point to it. I’ll just make a new post here… In the communities of Poliwag that live in or around the crescent-shaped lakes and marshes that border Origin Sand deserts, there is a worrying trend. These Poliwags will live as...
In the communities of Poliwag that live in or around the crescent-shaped lakes and marshes that border Origin Sand deserts, there is a worrying trend. These Poliwags will live as normal Poliwags, evolve into normal Poliwhirl and eventually Poliwrath or Politoed, as they prefer, and spawn new Poliwag in their homes. This, according to them, is the one and only, true way to live.

It is, therefore, very tragic when such a Poliwag evolves into a Poliwhirl within the bounds of a Hydropellant Field, gaining the Ground typing at the cost of the bitter (and sometimes violent) rejection of the only community they've ever known.

These Poliwhirl almost always end up wandering said Hydropellant Field, eventually finding community with other such Poliwhirl in caves beneath the desert, where they train, fight, and meditate without water for extremely long periods of time. This latter activity evolves them into Ground/Fighting-type Poliwrath, which are pillars of such communities.


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Rainbow Oil Rainbow Oil is a very strange substance. It’s found in deposits all over the world, with seemingly no rhyme or reason. One Professor Turo of Uva Academy has claimed (less than credibly) that it’s industrial toxic waste from the future (see the last paragraph of this report). When...


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Inspired by recent discussion. Miraidon Tail Shedding A relatively small piece of shed Miraidon skin from the tail will, if ingested by a Pokémon, confer upon that Pokémon the Steel or Electric typing until said skin fragment is fully digested. This typing is not random, and Pokémon of the...
Miraidon Tail Shedding

A relatively small piece of shed Miraidon skin from the tail will, if ingested by a Pokémon, confer upon that Pokémon the Steel or Electric typing until said skin fragment is fully digested. This typing is not random, and Pokémon of the same species will always become the same type. If the Pokémon is already a Steel- or Electric-type, then their other existing Type (if applicable) is overwritten with whichever Type they don't already have. The attendant physical transformations always seem to make the Pokémon look obviously artificial, often robotic.

Note that Miraidon tail sheddings are ferrous and frequently contain residual electric charge, and so most Pokémon may need significant cajoling and/or a very close bond with their Trainer before they consent to eating them.


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Got another idea for a Type Mutagen: Reverse Grapes -Despite their name, Reverse Grapes are actually a kind of tuber. Unlike most tubers, however, it forms a thin ‘vine’ underground which grows multiple fleshy spheroids, resembling grapes but closer in appearance and consistency to small...
Reverse Grapes

-Despite their name, Reverse Grapes are actually a kind of tuber. Unlike most tubers, however, it forms a thin 'vine' underground which grows multiple fleshy sacs, resembling grapes but closer in appearance and consistency to small potatoes.

If eaten by a single-typed Pokémon, these sacs do nothing*. If eaten by a dual-typed Pokémon, however, the sacs cause the primary and secondary Types to switch, causing appropriate physical changes over the course of fifteen minutes. The effects last for five hours. Further consumption increases the duration of the effect, but with a sharp decline in effectiveness, such that five grapes extends the duration to fifteen hours, and multiple grapes are required on top of this to extend the effect by even another hour.

*One of the Pokémon tested reported extreme gastrointestinal distress, but this Pokémon was later found to have been very successfully begging for greasy, high-fat snack foods from multiple researchers, so this being a symptom of Reverse Grape consumption has been judged highly improbable.


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Was rereading the Informational threadmarks, and found this, which is… not really true? There’s a third theme: Animate food. I mean, yeah, it’s not unique to the Fairy type, but it’s still a theme. Anyways: Faerie Cake -A variety of small cake that can be baked by certain Legendaries (which...


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Okay, got the thing: Libra Dust Libra Dust is a waste product produced when certain types of divination spells are (usually unsuccessfully) twisted away from their purpose and made to divine Pokémon types. It is a light blue, translucent dust with a tendency to stick together. When snorted...


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Coming up with possible new Contagions, because I’m inspired. Vile Contagion (Dark) -An inky black liquid that tends to semi-solidify into thin, fragile sacs when exposed to the air. The sacs are technically denatured, but liquefy into an active state quickly enough after they’re broken. The...
Vile Contagion (Dark)
-An inky black liquid that tends to semi-solidify into thin, fragile sacs when exposed to the air. The sacs are technically denatured, but liquefy into an active state quickly enough after they're broken. The transformations it induces follow a gothic theming - lots of black, spikes, plain metal, et cetera. Notably, while the Dark typing doesn't inherently affect your personality, the Vile Contagion does. Those under its effects will feel an urge to act more selfishly and sadistically. It's not an irresistible urge, but it doesn't go away until the Contagion is removed, which means that any given person (human, Pokémon, or otherwise) will inevitably give in to it if they continue to operate under its effects.

Marrow Contagion (Ghost)
-A bone-white fluid with a gritty texture. The transformations it induces are bone-themed and generally end with the Pokémon looking like a skeletal version of itself. Notably, Cubone and Marowak are completely immune.


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I thought you were going in a different direction with this. Here's an actual type-changing item based on what I thought you were going to do: Hegelian Clothing -Hegelian Clothing is made to portray a dichotomy between two Types, and when worn by a Pokémon of either (not both) of those two...


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Flux Steel, a mysterious alloy left behind in areas Dialga has appeared. Since it's time-aligned it can alter one to either a more futuristic or retrospective form, depending on which charge it has. Using it is more difficult given the energy doesn't seep out. You need a machine to extract the...
Flux Steel, a mysterious alloy left behind in areas Dialga has appeared. Since it's time-aligned it can alter one to either a more futuristic or retrospective form, depending on which charge it has. Using it is more difficult given the energy doesn't seep out. You need a machine to extract the energy. Or just break it somehow, which is much harder. May or not be a useful item for making resurrection machine parts.


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Idea. Quark Crystal: A mysterious crystal found washed up on beaches, ingesting it slowly turns you into a Robot version, a steel type as you usually keep your primary type. It's named such for because of the data of the Pokemon found. As of right now, the changes are irreversible once it has...
Quark Crystal: A mysterious crystal found washed up on beaches, ingesting it slowly turns you into a Robot version, a steel type as you usually keep your primary type. It's named such for because of the data of the Pokemon found. As of right now, the changes are irreversible once it has fully completed Conversion, which usually takes 1 to 2 hours.
Notes: Mundane Clay does seem to undo Roboticization on mammals, though the Steel/Normal Typing remains afterward. No time limit has been found on this "cure". No insect or mineral cases have been found, so testing of such is stalled. A number of Water/Steel Type Magikarp have been discovered across the world from this phenomenon which relate to this.

Cause Paldea shenanigans messing with the time stream. Some end up in the ocean and wash up. Others get eaten by Magikarp, the idiots. There has been one case of an Iron Feebas discovered with Conversion moves, for some reason. All such Pokémon have Quark Drive as their ability, and cannot evolve naturally.


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So, made this one because I thought it could be interesting, plus I've not noticed all that many fighting type options available. Though the Feather of the Winged King looks promising. I figured I'd make something a little more... potentially available than a piece of a legendary pokemon...


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So, this one's a weird one. Takes a note from one you've already used as it fuses into the pokemon in question. Gemstone Hearts: It is known that gems have some relation to psionic abilities, and these gems are an extreme example of this as they can amplify psionic abilities considerably in...


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...while thinking about how i would do this sort of thing in a video game in the abstract, i realized it'd need a way to turn back without spending time, so i came up with a couple of ideas for solutions. Clear Aloe A succulent that sprouts in Lum Berry-enriched soil. If eaten, it cures a...
Clear Aloe
A succulent that sprouts in Lum Berry-enriched soil. If eaten, it cures a status condition, as well as curing any type change or transformation with a time limit (possibly with a limit, say, only up to 24 hours? maybe it reduces the "timer" by 24 hours?)

Clear Solution
A clear liquid processed from Clear Aloe, with a similar, but stronger effect. if rubbed in, it cures all status conditions, as well as curing any type change or transformation with a time limit (probably with a greater power? maybe up to a week?)

Clear Bell
A magic bell that, when rung, cures a status condition, type change, and/or transformation with a time limit of the nearest Pokemon, other than the wielder. (not sure how powerful it should be, and it would likely be either extremely rare to outright unique)


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Thinking on it, mildly suprised DSS Region doesn't have some sort of temporary powerup like the other two non-native Legends have, but A)The Sealed Things seem implied to be more hostile than Eternatus and Necrozma and B)The aforementioned two seem to be more adapted to the local area given they...


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I'm now unsure if the Gatpotear 'Dex entry isn't actually another product of the assorted time-travel, given mountain rescue is as already mentioned a bit off for garbled Chien-Pao rumors. Doesn't the Gym Leader already know Olivine isn't doing anything high-level after the Lugia issue? Only...


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Oscillating Trinkets A favourite of trinket-makers all over the world, these held items have as many names and shapes as there are regions. You might find a Fire-and-Ice Scarf, a Headband of Body and Mind, an Hourglass of High and Low Tide or a Stone of Fire and Smoke. All of these are...


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Off the top of my head, something like a coconut that gives you the Fighting type as a reference to Crabrawler, or maybe a Yache berry smoothie prepared with Ice Gems to make you an Ice type? Given a lot of the themes I’ve seen in your work, maybe the smoothie specifically makes the drinker into...

Off the top of my head, something like a coconut that gives you the Fighting type as a reference to Crabrawler, or maybe a Yache berry smoothie prepared with Ice Gems to make you an Ice type? Given a lot of the themes I've seen in your work, maybe the smoothie specifically makes the drinker into a Water/Ice type that can melt down into frozen slush.


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Followed that Fire Ecology link, found out about serotiny, had an idea. Fulminating Pinecone Pine trees in areas where Fire-type Pokemon live adapt to the constant fire by developing pyriscent cones. However, Fire-type attacks are not the only way certain Pokemon cook their food - Pikachu and...

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Dragon Fruit: A fruit found in tropical environments, particularly those with numerous dragon types. Primarily fed on by dragon types, the seeds of the fruit are usually dispersed by dragon types as they travel the global. Not usually accessible to other types due to the tough hide of the fruit...

Dragon Fruit:

A fruit found in tropical environments, particularly those with numerous dragon types. Primarily fed on by dragon types, the seeds of the fruit are usually dispersed by dragon types as they travel the global. Not usually accessible to other types due to the tough hide of the fruit and the numerous thorns that coat it. Doesn't have any effect on dragon types. When fed on by non-dragon types, it boosts dragon energy in the consumer. The energy boost is not enough to provide dragon typing to the consumer, but is enough to aid in the teaching of draconic typed moves. Often used by move tutors to help teach non-dragon types how to access and use dragon type energy.

Shadowfish:

A mundane fish that is found in the Hadalpelagic Zone of the ocean. Usually preyed upon by the denizens of the deep sea, it survives the depths of the deep sea by employing ghost type energies to maintain a semi-tangible state. This often results in predators deciding this animal is too difficult to secure capture of without having a typed move to counter the ghost type energy employed. Not able to be caught with normal nets, which it phases through, nets woven with Misdreavus hair are required to catch it. When consumed by non-aquatic Pokemon it can provide either a Ghost typing or a Water typing. The form of those that consume it are less solid and gain an almost semi-solid/fluid state (akin to a blob fish, which actually look normal when they are in their natural habitat). Guarantees a water typing if the Pokemon consuming it is a Ghost type.

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I thought it might be fun to play with the fact that deep sea organisms like the so-called blob fish are developed for entirely different environmental pressures than those we are familiar with. Under the pressures of the deep sea, they would look normal (have a normal solid state) but with the...
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-An intriguing option for the Ghost type, and I think you might be playing to my interests with the "semi-solid/fluid state" bit.

I thought it might be fun to play with the fact that deep sea organisms like the so-called blob fish are developed for entirely different environmental pressures than those we are familiar with. Under the pressures of the deep sea, they would look normal (have a normal solid state) but with the pressure we experience on land, they take on a semi-solid/fluid state.

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Nested quotes normally get these "expand quote" buttons and there's some workaround to get them to show if they were in a spoiler. Window resizing once it's open, I think? Hell...I knew I was forgetting something alongside the earlier chapter corrections I had noted down on my last phone and...
Hell...I knew I was forgetting something alongside the earlier chapter corrections I had noted down on my last phone and hadn't gotten back to.

Like a plant (Peach of Tomorrow? I don't think I had a name lined up) that would grant Psychic type but only if its very particular, very random tending requirements were met without being exposed to actual precognition. (Celebi using time travel to get around this is okay.)

*grabs phone for those plants Celebi might've delivered, cracks knuckles*

- Dragonsbreath [or firebreath] pepper: straightforward. Icy Mint its obvious inverse.
- Being PokéJapan, a gnawed leaf like for tanuki-sort of illusion...which is sometimes Psychic, sometimes Dark, I guess, though transformation's domain can also arguably Normal type, given Ditto/Porygon/Arceus.
- Wing Maple Seed, grant wings/flyingtype (hang on I need to fend off a Falkner swarm).
- Venomed Serpent Apple.
- I'd suggest a ghost pumpkin, but...hmm, nearly/in-effigy eating a Gourgeist/Pumpkaboo seems ghastly/Ghostly.
- Turtle Peaches as a spinoff of the fruit of immortality.
- ReBark, a strange bark that can be peeled off and applied to another creature to turn them into a plant. Must cover half before working; there's a bit of a lack of inconvenient TF mats in this work [at time of writing this list] which makes sense because they're in the field, not a lab [where they could deal with the inconveniences]
- Clock Nuts, which are clockwork cogs but not comprising steel even if they make one mechanical Steel-type. [Think an acorn but make the acorn one bevel gear and the cap another.]
- Shade Tree, granting extra dark type [past-me, what did you mean here] to anything shaded by its leaves. Possibly related to Shiftry.
- (name-pending) [guess I remembered correctly] psychic-granting berry paste, but only if the berry is called-shot picked before the picker is aware of it, requiring insane luck or psychic premonition or timetravel. Cannot be cultivated with use by psychics or people who did not pick them. If cultivated, after a bit of careful selective breeding (again optionally stupidly specific steps [normally] requiring premonition), bestows psychic type with quarter potency of original.
- "fey contagion" no, that's called Changeling.
- I expect[ed] Ice Contagion (creeping frost)
 
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Hmm, I thought I'd suggested one, but I guess I was remembering wrong? Or maybe it was something I thought up in the middle of the night and then forgot to actually post in the thread, that can happen sometimes. Another pretty good chapter though, and a good combat scene. You're both doing better with those and it's also nice to see people having to deal with the 'oh god what type am I now' stuff in combat.
 
Hmm, I thought I'd suggested one, but I guess I was remembering wrong? Or maybe it was something I thought up in the middle of the night and then forgot to actually post in the thread, that can happen sometimes. Another pretty good chapter though, and a good combat scene. You're both doing better with those and it's also nice to see people having to deal with the 'oh god what type am I now' stuff in combat.
A quick search function doesn't turn anything up in your posts. If you find/remember it be sure to post it, I'm planning on updating if I get more.

Glad to hear that those combat scenes worked out. I think that not having to go into detail on the setup and ending of a fight helped me actually write those quite a bit. Also there should be a notable uptick in that kind of combat when I have it now that the more serious Gym battles are upcoming. The ones where a team that isn't really practicing combat at 100% needs to make great use of their other tricks instead.
 
Well, here's one idea then.

'Reverse Prisms'
Found either (rarely) in the reverse world or in places where portals and other openings to the reverse world have been frequently opened over long periods of time (IE, even more rarely), these crystal like items can cause an interesting reaction in those exposed to them while they are refracting light from both the normal world and the reverse world at the same time. To be precise, if a pokemon has a primary type and a secondary type, those types will reverse so that their secondary type becomes their primary type and their primary type becomes their secondary type until the next dawn or nightfall.

This is (very loosely) inspired by a sword a character I played in a game long ago had, which could reveal ghosts and other undead because it was forged from underworld crystals and so light refracted through it would count as underworld light, which made me think about magic crystals and then I just decided to take the name of a 'Reverse Prism' literally and have it... well, reverse a pokemon's types. And the 'until dawn breaks or nightfall sets' just seemed an appropriately fairytail/magical ending clause. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
 
Well, here's one idea then.

'Reverse Prisms'
Found either (rarely) in the reverse world or in places where portals and other openings to the reverse world have been frequently opened over long periods of time (IE, even more rarely), these crystal like items can cause an interesting reaction in those exposed to them while they are refracting light from both the normal world and the reverse world at the same time. To be precise, if a pokemon has a primary type and a secondary type, those types will reverse so that their secondary type becomes their primary type and their primary type becomes their secondary type until the next dawn or nightfall.

This is (very loosely) inspired by a sword a character I played in a game long ago had, which could reveal ghosts and other undead because it was forged from underworld crystals and so light refracted through it would count as underworld light, which made me think about magic crystals and then I just decided to take the name of a 'Reverse Prism' literally and have it... well, reverse a pokemon's types. And the 'until dawn breaks or nightfall sets' just seemed an appropriately fairytail/magical ending clause. Feel free to change it if you don't like it.
Oh I like that one because it is simultaneously subtle and dramatic.
There is reason behind why two pokemon with the same two types can be so different if they are ordered differently, and I have at least attempted to have the order matter with this concept.

For example, the Geodude line verses the Rhyhorn line. The former get more stony and blocky, while the latter goes more bulky and stable. If Rhydon was in his natural form and got reversed he would likely end up even less acrobatic, and would have a bit of an easier time with Rock type actions and harder with Ground type.
He would not like that particular change, but I do really like the idea. I'm going to have to consider if there is a good way to show such a thing off.

... I'm not sure how/if I'm going to get all of these into the story itself, but I have to thank everyone again for them.
 
Given the issues with needing light from the reverse world and light from the normal world to trigger the effect, you might want to edit that too, or maybe have some way of collecting or generating light from the reverse world (pinhole portal mirrors?), but I thought the idea as I had it was fun, so I'm glad you like it. ^_^

Or maybe it gets reverse engineered into a move too. Polarity Switch or something. Yet another way to mess with people's heads in the middle of a match. Sorry, enemy Delphox, now you're a Psychic type first and a Fire type second! Or they learn a self targeting version which has Falkner seeking them down again to learn to make himself a Flying/Bug type instead of a Bug/Flying type. Or Falkner could be the one to find one in the first place in his quest to become a primary flying type pokemon maybe?
 
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Given the issues with needing light from the reverse world and light from the normal world to trigger the effect, you might want to edit that too, or maybe have some way of collecting or generating light from the reverse world (pinhole portal mirrors?), but I thought the idea as I had it was fun, so I'm glad you like it. ^_^

Or maybe it gets reverse engineered into a move too. Polarity Switch or something. Yet another way to mess with people's heads in the middle of a match. Sorry, enemy Delphox, now you're a Psychic type first and a Fire type second! Or they learn a self targeting version which has Falkner seeking them down again to learn to make himself a Flying/Bug type instead of a Bug/Flying type. Or Falkner could be the one to find one in the first place in his quest to become a primary flying type pokemon maybe?
Honestly? I like the idea of there just being places where it can be found at times, or an ability/item to give access to the light.
It might be something to change in implementation given the things are already only found in such a place, but I like the idea of them seeming mundane unless you are also near/in such a liminal space.

If it created a move I'd definitely give that the Ghost type.
 
It also allows for questions like "Well, ok, Charizard, we know what happens when you become a Water type normally, but what happens if we change you into a Flying/Fire type and then turn you into a Water type?".
 
Feels good to have a few on the board, lol! The Fighting type continues to confound me, but I WILL figure out a visually interesting and thematic transformation! Believe it!
 
A Senzu Beans transformation item that gives pokemon that eat them spiked up hair and a battle aura along with the fighting type, that grow where pokemon with strong auras and the fighting type have fought and trained for generations and their energy has leaked into the ground, causing the plantlife to grow said beans to get said energy to stop contaminating them. The part where it tends to give them a battle aura type ability or is extra likely to work on ghost pokemon for a literal battle aura could be a bonus joke.
 
It also allows for questions like "Well, ok, Charizard, we know what happens when you become a Water type normally, but what happens if we change you into a Flying/Fire type and then turn you into a Water type?".
It does, which is why I like the idea.
I just also need to work out what things like a Flying/Fire Charizard look like before I can get to changing after that.
Feels good to have a few on the board, lol! The Fighting type continues to confound me, but I WILL figure out a visually interesting and thematic transformation! Believe it!
I'm looking forward to it, and I'm glad nobody seems upset about the lack of formatting for the list so far.
A Senzu Beans transformation item that gives pokemon that eat them spiked up hair and a battle aura along with the fighting type, that grow where pokemon with strong auras and the fighting type have fought and trained for generations and their energy has leaked into the ground, causing the plantlife to grow said beans to get said energy to stop contaminating them. The part where it tends to give them a battle aura type ability or is extra likely to work on ghost pokemon for a literal battle aura could be a bonus joke.
Ha, well that is something visual at least. I'm just not sure if you want me to add this one to the list or if it should be left off as just a joke.
 
Just read the new chapter, and don't have the time or energy to do quote-responses, but as usually I enjoyed it. Type-shifting shenanigans in battle to bewilder and disrupt the opponents will never get old.

Charles finally getting to properly air his grievances with his naming is nice. And the call between Alexa and her parents is nice, with a lot of references to some of our fan-made items. I'm mildly disappointed but not surprised that my Tear of Jirachi isn't included. It would be a rather rare item, even for type-changing items. Entirely reasonable to assume they have acquired none, and maybe even haven't heard of them.
 
'Zenith Berry'
A plant associated with the rare legendary pokemon known as Marshadow, Zenith Berries can be found where Marshadows have repeatedly entered the special form change known as 'Zenith Mode', and are said to have resulted from a portion of their fighting spirit rubbing off on the plantlife around them. The plantlife then promptly shoved all that fighting spirit into said berries to get the spiritual contamination away from them... at least according to myth. The berries do give pokemon that eat them the Fighting type for the following day however, unless they are ghosts, in which case they tend to be stuck with the fighting type for around a week before the change wears off. As a generally tendency, the change tends to be one that either awakens, amplifies, or involves the energy known as 'Aura' that Lucario in particular are known for controlling, and some connections have been suggested with the supportive aura shown by the Alola region's Totem pokemon.

For a less meme version of what's basically the same idea.
 
Feels good to have a few on the board, lol! The Fighting type continues to confound me, but I WILL figure out a visually interesting and thematic transformation! Believe it!
For dramatic visual effect for a fighting type transformation, borrow the cultivator story visual effect, eating [this] fighting type item or being hit by「that」ability causes the pokemon to be suddenly overcome by/excrete a full body black sludge that "removes the impurity" of other non-fighting typed energy, and swiftly explodes away to reveal a pure fighting typed pokemon variant.
I got this idea after considering that most fighting type pokemon descend from generations of combative pokemon drifting away from their own type energy techniques in favor of kicking ass more efficiently, which is pretty much how cultivator-logic looks at "removing impurities" work anyways.
 
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The problem we've been running into is 'what make a Pokemon look like a Fighting type, visually?' So far, the only thing we've been able to think of are clothes(Sawk and Throh's gi, Machamps belt, Hariyama's kesho-mawashi/tsuna, etc) or big muscles. Both of which aren't terribly interesting, as a transformation. It's easy to come up with items that could change someone to a Fighting type, but hard to make the transformation more interesting than "they're roided out."

Edit:I guess there's also weapons, like the Conkeldurr line has. But that's less common.
 
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Just read the new chapter, and don't have the time or energy to do quote-responses, but as usually I enjoyed it. Type-shifting shenanigans in battle to bewilder and disrupt the opponents will never get old.

Charles finally getting to properly air his grievances with his naming is nice. And the call between Alexa and her parents is nice, with a lot of references to some of our fan-made items. I'm mildly disappointed but not surprised that my Tear of Jirachi isn't included. It would be a rather rare item, even for type-changing items. Entirely reasonable to assume they have acquired none, and maybe even haven't heard of them.
Thank you.

I'm not sure if Charizard really "properly aired" his grievances considering he immediately found entirely new ones he had not even known about, but I understand the sentiment.

One reason Tear of Jirachi didn't show up here is because it wasn't a berry or the like. Those got a bit of priority because I could justify a Celebi having them lying around more easily.
'Zenith Berry'
A plant associated with the rare legendary pokemon known as Marshadow, Zenith Berries can be found where Marshadows have repeatedly entered the special form change known as 'Zenith Mode', and are said to have resulted from a portion of their fighting spirit rubbing off on the plantlife around them. The plantlife then promptly shoved all that fighting spirit into said berries to get the spiritual contamination away from them... at least according to myth. The berries do give pokemon that eat them the Fighting type for the following day however, unless they are ghosts, in which case they tend to be stuck with the fighting type for around a week before the change wears off. As a generally tendency, the change tends to be one that either awakens, amplifies, or involves the energy known as 'Aura' that Lucario in particular are known for controlling, and some connections have been suggested with the supportive aura shown by the Alola region's Totem pokemon.

For a less meme version of what's basically the same idea.
That works.:)
For dramatic visual effect for a fighting type transformation, borrow the cultivator story visual effect, eating [this] fighting type item or being hit by「that」ability causes the pokemon to be suddenly overcome by/excrete a full body black sludge that "removes the impurity" of other non-fighting typed energy, and swiftly explodes away to reveal a pure fighting typed pokemon variant.
I got this idea after considering that most fighting type pokemon descend from generations of combative pokemon drifting away from their own type energy techniques in favor of kicking ass more efficiently, which is pretty much how cultivator-logic looks at "removing impurities" work anyways.
That is a fairly good option for a more long term or permanant method.
The problem we've been running into is 'what make a Pokemon look like a Fighting type, visually?' So far, the only thing we've been able to think of are clothes(Sawk and Throh's gi, Machamps belt, Hariyama's kesho-mawashi/tsuna, etc) or big muscles. Both of which aren't terribly interesting, as a transformation. It's easy to come up with items that could change someone to a Fighting type, but hard to make the transformation more interesting than "they're roided out."

Edit:I guess there's also weapons, like the Conkeldurr line has. But that's less common.
Yeah, still a major limitation there.
 
Reading the big list, I belatedly realised that the eversion item (actually a few different things that could sort of fit) already appeared in Digital Storage Solutions. The transformative spells used by Starshine, Janice's medication, and the "turn human wearer into a pokemon" amulets could all operate on the principle of energy eversion. (The human-to-digimon and digimon-to-human amulets, while conceptually similar, probably have a different underlying mechanism.)

... DSS did have a human-to-pokemon amulet, right? I didn't make that up? I'll have to reread it...
 
Reading the big list, I belatedly realised that the eversion item (actually a few different things that could sort of fit) already appeared in Digital Storage Solutions. The transformative spells used by Starshine, Janice's medication, and the "turn human wearer into a pokemon" amulets could all operate on the principle of energy eversion. (The human-to-digimon and digimon-to-human amulets, while conceptually similar, probably have a different underlying mechanism.)

... DSS did have a human-to-pokemon amulet, right? I didn't make that up? I'll have to reread it...
That kind was created as part of the work to develop the human-to-digimon and digimon-to-human version.
Human and non-human-pokemon transformation is based on the metaphysical idea that humans and pokemon are different, along with a "if you were [a non-human] pokemon, what would you be" metaphysical concept. Although there are different ones.
This is strangely topical for the chapter I am writing at the moment.
One amusing situation that is theoretically possible with a greater understanding of the physical instead of metaphysical aspects of that topic is that "if [specific pokemon] were a different pokemon, what would they be" could theoretically work on the same method. It would likely need magical development to be a stable spell, but it could be made based on the many human-to-pokemon style magics.
... although I think I've personally established more pokemon-to-human things in DSS.
 
The Media Impact
--- The Media Impact ---

There was a knock on the door as Alexa prepared for what would either be a fairly simple or really complicated day. Today was their last in Goldenrod, and the only thing left was to help Whitney with Mundane Clay and to pick up their new gloves. "Hello?" she questioned as she opened the door. "Oh, Miss Glamur, good to see you. Is something wrong?"

The illusioned manager looked vaguely concerned, but seemed happier to see they had mostly packed up. "Your Gym match just made the news, a bit late if things were typical, but that is because an analyst just went over your 'unique' techniques in detail with a new view on them."

"So we might want to be discreet when we leave?" William questioned from where he had just finished packing.

"I would personally recommend using human forms that could not be easily recognized as you," Miss Glamur agreed, and then in an instant appeared to be someone else. "I am personally going to be 'on vacation' for a few days until this cools down. If we happen to see each other again call this form 'Mira'."

"Please let me know if she doesn't actually look like 'Mira'," William requested as the door closed. "I think she forgot I can't see her illusion. Are you going to go for Vespikiln to be able to pull that suggestion off? I've got an alternate if we really want to go for that."

"I can feel the crowd outside," Alexa admitted, with a look down at her four feet. The vibrations where a big reason she thought today would be complicated. "I was going to go Mephagic later, but I might try it now. We've avoided layering Contagions, but if I really-"

"I can go Water/Steel and make one while we get to the Gym," Charizard cut her off. "I'd rather go with being a mute human than risk something you've been avoiding." There was a slight splash as he went from Fire/Water to pure Water in order to make that change.

"That is probably a better idea, I really don't want to find out there is a problem with two adjacent layers that have the same reversal method," Alexa clarified due to the concerned look William was giving them. "It should only remove one at a time, but I haven't gone over the extra data my dad sent me with that new sensor. He just started more work on Contagion Cure for this project, it was a low priority." She made a bit. "I'm still going to go with Mephagic though."

"Do you already have a human form you know you can make?" William questioned her Starter instead.

"My parents already asked me to try during our phone call," Charizard answered. "I'll look a bit like my human brother, but that look is probably not widely known yet. We'd need to somehow let Whitney know we are doing it, but it is a better plan than getting there late."

---

Alexa had listened to the discussion outside through her mundane pokeball's sensors. The crowd immediately outside was mostly interested in pokemon who were also trainers. They wanted to see talking pokemon more than anything, and the discussion of the actual Gym battles didn't really start to happen until they were most of the way to the Gym itself. Which she could not really follow because she could not really see outside of the ball, and the sensors of the mundane pokeball were much worse than what she had on her custom ball.

"Alright, come this way," someone said to Charizard, and Alexa hoped they were in the Gym. She wondered if she needed to work on how to tell what was happening outside of a pokeball while in one.

"Okay, I can tell you're Charizard, but only because I've looked up your family, and you really look like your brother right now," Alexa heard Whitney complain. "Not that I don't get the reasoning, but we should move out of sight before someone else who knows that sees you."

There was a bit more walking before the sound quieted down with a shut door, and then Charizard let her out. Her Starter still looked like vaguely familiar in his chosen human shape, although Alexa didn't think that she had really met his human brother yet. William was also in his alternate shape, which was generic to the point where Alexa was fairly sure she had seen three people with the same face, if not the same haircut. "Did you just pick the most common human face for that one?" she asked as the idea occurred to her.

"Hearing that out loud makes me wonder how much how common it is comes from how humans work, and how much is from disguised Zoroark," William complained, and then went back to his more typical human form. One which looked like his parents to a degree similar to Charizard's current disguise for presumably similar reasons. "I think I'm done with being openly pokemon for this city."

"A fair response, although I do hope you get a chance to go over the analysis that started today's crowd before you head out," Whitney said critically. "Between you there were six pokemon nobody recognized without going over your other Gyms so far, and one that wasn't really helped by that." Alexa took a moment to go over everybody, and flinched as she realized she was being counted.

"If we can get our hands on a copy without issues," Charizard pointed out as he expanded back into his base shape for the Water/Steel form he was using. "I overheard that the print copies are sold out, and even if we have two Pokedex between us digital copies usually miss some of the graphs. I know it was a mess last year that led to a week of us trying to get one for a match we did well in. There was a nice picture of Kingler they left out of the digital version."

"I might need to look that one up," Whitney replied easily, despite the fact that Charizard did not have his translator out. "I can get copies, but if you want to wait for that maybe we should go over the details together. I don't think I can overstate how much you both caught attention with your matches. I'm not a Gym Leader that gets ignored most of the time, and you both went with the League plan to show you off and then some."

"I'd say that sounds a bit extreme, but Charizard just walked through a crowd as a human," William pointed out. "We have to admit we aren't a typical set of teams at this point. When the Zoroark is the normal trainer you might need to pay more attention to what people say about you."

"You are the normal one," Whitney specified and led them over to a monitor. "I only have the digital copy that apparently might be missing pictures, but that should be enough for this." A few pages of text appear on the screen. "Oh, okay I'm going to just say what I saw on my print copy because this is missing all of the images. William, you had four pages, and the first two were just for going over Shanker and your Flaaffy each." It was clearly much more dense without the images given there was a breakpoint early on in the first page.

Alexa leaned in to look over the text on the monitor with a ribbit. "Are Dark Stones really that rare?" she asked about the first paragraph of the Shanker part. "They spent this entire paragraph just saying that they actually exist."

"The author is local, and unless you are specifically ordering them from a mining company you won't just find one," Whitney answered. "Not to mention that Scyther aren't common enough to have people look up obscure evolutions to think to buy one for them. I'd not even known what a Shanker was before she was out and fighting, which meant I sent out my first bad match up. I didn't realize that the Bug type could be the one replaced, so I thought a Flying type would work out."

"I might be too used to odd pokemon types to tell what is odd," Alexa admitted nervously. "I've seen evolution stones for every type and quite a few things that aren't types. Actually, I can remember seeing a few odd type combinations last League."

"A few, but I doubt they were as strange as what we are doing now," Charizard said and pointed at the next section. "They seem to have gone into speculation about... 'Flaaffma'? I suppose that works. But they've gone off on a tangent here about possible origins that they could have just asked about to learn this was wrong."

"The more important part there is the typing. Alexa's Bellossom is the only other mix of Fire and Electric a people can find for this League," Whitney clarified. "I know of a handful of other pokemon with that pair of types, but they are from distant regions or are unusual alternate forms. It didn't take much for them to be able to work out you got help from Alexa there, and with the rest of it I suspect you are going to get challenged by anyone who sees you that wants to be Champion this League."

"What," William said as he paled. "How?" Alexa was rather impressed that he had the illusion pale like that.

"The rest of the analysis was more on your past Leagues than your other pokemon, mostly because those two were on your first team," the Gym Leader explained. "You made the top 16 last year, and now you have access to some interesting new pokemon."

"Which describes my entire team," Alexa admitted. "How does my team look in the article?"

"One page for each of your battles, and another for you and your other pokemon," Whitney said and switched the displayed article. "I mentioned that they talked about your Bellossom's fight against Falkner, that is the only reason they even believed that she was one. They just plain didn't think Rhydon was a Rhydon, and they called Heracross 'the unknown Flying/Fighting type'."

"Okay, now I'm even more upset with how I didn't get a chance. I missed out on being doubted as a Char," Charizard commented with a laugh, but then looked serious. "Heracross isn't going to be happy with that. He's been happy with that form, but he's still a Heracross."

"Yeah, I'm definitely going to need any copy of this to look over if they did that," Alexa agreed uneasily as she inspected it quickly. There was a lot of speculation on how much she could alter types, and even a small section on how plausible it would be for her to get authorized to use that as a Gym Leader specialty. This author seemed to think it was fairly likely, which was a lot more confidence than Alexa had with the idea in practice.

"If you really want to be a Gym Leader it is going to get complicated," Whitney said as the current Leader noticed where Alexa's eyes were focused. "With how many challenges a Gym gets you can't run one on your own and with just your personal team. I'm a major Gym so I have over a dozen staff under me, and a couple hundred pokemon."

"I take it a lot of that staff is to keep the pokemon up to speed?" William questioned while Alexa tried to work out how to ask to keep up her own illusion that she was interested in the job.

"The hard part is first through third Badge pokemon. You need a lot of them, and because you need them to not be too strong you usually can't have any stay at the level they start by the end," Whitney agreed. "The good news there is you end up with a good amount of fourth and fifth Badge pokemon by the time you get challengers for that. Quite a few will end up handed out as Starters the next year. Seventh and eighth Badge pokemon are where you actually spend your own training time, and usually get help from whatever personal team you keep for dealing with local problems."

"I really hope my mom was joking about becoming a Charizard Gym Leader," Charizard said a bit uneasily himself at that news.

"As in a Charizard that is a Gym Leader, or a Gym Leader for Chars?" Alexa asked carefully.

"Yes," he 'answered' with a large smile. "I really hope my bio-mom was just joking about how many kids she has."

"There probably aren't enough Char in Kanto for a Gym like that," Whitney giggled. "Mostly because I think everyone would try and get a Badge from it. Maybe we should move onto why I asked you here." The Gym Leader quickly removed a pair of small data storage cards from a small locker that turned out to be next to the monitor. Apparently full of the small chips for just this purpose. "Here are digital copies until you can get the print version."

"Do you have the time to be a pokemon for a week?" Alexa asked as they changed topic.

"Honestly? It would not be the first time I had to be a pokemon and a Gym Leader at the same time," Whitney replied with a cringe. "Last time was an artifact of sorts. Three days before I was back to normal, but I was in the middle of the League's start, and even that wasn't the first time. It is a risk of being a long term Gym Leader in an important place, so you are at least already prepared for that one."

"Then we should get started with... me turning back so I don't find out what a Normal typed Mephagic is for the next week," Alexa admitted as she realized it. "Because I know what it does to someone it doesn't work on, and know how to apply it. We want to be sure before you try it on other, um, before you try it on pokemon."

"Strangely enough this is the first time someone slipped up to almost say 'other pokemon' when they were talking to me," Whitney said with amusement. "Alright, let's see if I end up anything."

---

Whitney did not change with the Mundane Clay, which she was surprised to find was a disappointment. Being a pokemon that was notably human would have been an interesting change. "Thank you," she said to the three pokemon-trainers as Charizard got ready to return his trainer and took on the same human form he had arrived in again. "I'm sure that Arcanine agrees."

"It is an interesting difference," the changed to Normal type dog pokemon said, his words clarified by the small translator that would need a recharge soon. His fluffy fur was now just a uniform tan color, and notably tougher from what Whitney could tell. "And a chance at some interesting matches."

"Well then I hope this works out for you," Alexa, now back to her frog form, said cheerfully. The Legendary pokemon pretending to want to be a Gym Leader had been much happier after getting a chance to show off the details.

"Good luck on your League," Whitney said as the Mephagic disappeared into the plain pokeball, and the Zoroark led the way out. The Gym Leader then led Arcanine back towards the room where the other pokemon who would be trying the Normal type were waiting. "Alright, everyone ready to show my seventh and eighth Badge challengers a fight?" she asked the small collection in the room.

"Of course," Hydreigon hissed in three voices.

"Sounds like a fun time," Tyranitar rumbled with a Dark smile.

"Confirmed, alternate combat mode acceptable," Metagross intoned.

"I'm up for a shot at being a Gym pokemon for something that isn't Fire types only," the local Legendary Entei agreed easily.

"Wonderful, it should be quite the event," Whitney said with a wide smile.

---

[Author's Note]
... this one was a nightmare to actually get written. An absolute nightmare. I am not doing anything more with it.
But I am very glad to have the last part of this one in the story.
 
...Did Whitney just Normalize her personal league championship team? :confused:o_O:o
Those seventh and eighth badge trainers are going to get crushed. :rofl:
Oh no, Whitney's League Tournament team was mostly Normal types way back then.
These are just a collection of some of the notably strong psudo- and actual Legendary pokemon examples she could get her hands on to crush opponents with.
 
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