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Shepard Quest Mk V, Base of Operations (ME/MCU)

nightblade said:
They aren't going to know that. We should not make first contact with them.
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Given the cases of body snatching were voluntary exchanges, I don't see why it would be a problem. In any case, that is something which can be conveyed during first contact

Besides, we probably won't make first contact anyways. They show up in a Salarian system - depending on how politics goes, the Salarians may hide them if they promise advanced tech as per canon.
 
here's the main (side?) plot of the VA meeting the council.
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Virtual_Alien#History said:
In 2185 CE, the virtual aliens' starship entered the salarian-inhabited Antilin system. The starship's AI sought help as the energy source keeping the ship and the virtual world running was dwindling. When the "ghost ship" was first detected by the salarians, it was initially thought to be the vanguard of a geth attack because it emitted strong AI heuristics. Contact between the galaxy and the AI was first established by the famed human exobiologist Dr. Jordan Detweiler, who boarded the ship to communicate with the AI, learning of both the virtual world and the energy problem. The Citadel Council, wary of the threat posed by the AI, was prepared to rule against aiding the ship, placing the virtual world and the lives of its inhabitants in jeopardy. Alarmed, Detweiler entered the virtual world to warn the virtual aliens. Detweiler returned with an offer to the Council: the virtual aliens would trade their advanced technology in exchange for help. A veil of secrecy was immediately erected by the Council and matters involving the ship were classified top-secret.

One month later, it was revealed that a representative of the virtual aliens, Ambassador Sygan, had been using Dr. Detweiler's body to visit the Citadel to speak with the Council. After explaining the situation in a press conference, Sygan asked for asylum from the Council, stating that she is one of many of her race who wish to leave the virtual world. When the question of what would happen to Dr. Detweiler, whose mind remained in the virtual world, arose, a volunteer offered to take on Sygan's mind in Detweiler's place. After this was announced, some 400 individuals from various races also stepped forward to swap places with other virtual aliens.
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If we help the VA then we might get some very good help, they are known to have advanced tech and giving them FBPs would endear them to us. Plus making contact a form of AI that is not hostile could give us the public sentiment to research AI, they may even help us. Perhaps we can hire them as scientists?
 
JhonCollins said:
If we help the VA then we might get some very good help, they are known to have advanced tech and giving them FBPs would endear them to us. Plus making contact a form of AI that is not hostile could give us the public sentiment to research AI, they may even help us. Perhaps we can hire them as scientists?
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This happens over a decade in the future. God only knows what will have happened by then - the Salarians may never even publicize their existence.
 
Or this

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ploba said:
Ploba is the second, and by far the larger, of Antaeus' two gas giants. Active scans by survey ships have returned tantalizing indications of massive, solid structures deep within the atmosphere, too regular in pattern to be anything natural.
Some believe Ploba is a "Jupiter Brain", a planet-sized supercomputer. Adherents of this theory have fruitlessly beamed signals toward the sunken megastructures, hoping to get the machine's attention.
Others believe that an ancient spacefaring race disposed of their weapons of war by dumping them into the planet. The last attempt to reach and salvage Ploba's "Deep Anomalies" went tragically wrong, and ended with a crew of 12 being trapped and crushed in the gas giant's lower atmosphere.
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Wait, is it fannon or fact that the geth are all over the extra net? Playing game's and shit? I seem to remember that was part of the shadow broker set.

MMO raiding geth.
 
Pai said:
Wait, is it fannon or fact that the geth are all over the extra net? Playing game's and shit? I seem to remember that was part of the shadow broker set.

MMO raiding geth.
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It's canon that Legion at least beats the hell out of a lot of video games in his spare time. To the point where he regularly gets investigated for aimbotting, which he beat, and trolling, which he admitted to.

Except romance games, he sucks at them.
 
Stroth said:
It's canon that Legion at least beats the hell out of a lot of video games in his spare time. To the point where he regularly gets investigated for aimbotting, which he beat, and trolling, which he admitted to.

Except romance games, he sucks at them.
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Note: The romance game in question is about a Quarian, making it doubly hilarious.
 
Stroth said:
It's canon that Legion at least beats the hell out of a lot of video games in his spare time. To the point where he regularly gets investigated for aimbotting, which he beat, and trolling, which he admitted to.

Except romance games, he sucks at them.
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Didn't he rake in something like 15,000 points on the Foltilla game? I thought that was pretty high, or was it just avoiding telling him how many points he could have got in total?

I thought that was a romance game...unless it had combat scenes in which he raked in the points....
 
Tabron89 said:
Didn't he rake in something like 15,000 points on the Foltilla game? I thought that was pretty high, or was it just avoiding telling him how many points he could have got in total?

I thought that was a romance game...unless it had combat scenes in which he raked in the points....
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From the wiki:
Fleet and Flotilla: Interactive Cross-Species Relationship Simulator:
"Based on the Bestselling Vid!"
Playtime: 75 hours, 6 minutes
Player Score: 15 (Hopeless)
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Tabron89 said:
Didn't he rake in something like 15,000 points on the Foltilla game? I thought that was pretty high, or was it just avoiding telling him how many points he could have got in total?

I thought that was a romance game...unless it had combat scenes in which he raked in the points....
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You are off by a factor of 1000.
 
Pai said:
Wait, is it fannon or fact that the geth are all over the extra net? Playing game's and shit? I seem to remember that was part of the shadow broker set.

MMO raiding geth.
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Nope, I think that it is cannon that they lurk in the extranet (something about a constellation in the Batarian sky forming a Salarian goddess or something).
 
XenonPrime said:
That's been done, the Geth shot it if it entered their territory or ignored it if it didn't.

The Geth really want to be left alone.
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Again, do we actually know this, or is this a made-up 'fact' to support your argument? The only Canon references I can find to people who tried to talk to the Geth are Quarians who were then killed by their own people as race traitors. The only reference I can find to a Citadel response is where C-sec slaughtered all the AIs then living on the Citadel, Geth or otherwise. That doesn't scream 'interested in sending diplomatic envoys' to me.
 
TheEyes said:
Again, do we actually know this, or is this a made-up 'fact' to support your argument? The only Canon references I can find to people who tried to talk to the Geth are Quarians who were then killed by their own people as race traitors. The only reference I can find to a Citadel response is where C-sec slaughtered all the AIs then living on the Citadel, Geth or otherwise. That doesn't scream 'interested in sending diplomatic envoys' to me.
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While I would love to support that,
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Geth#Creation said:
They adopted an extremely isolationist attitude - any ships that ventured into geth space were immediately attacked and destroyed.
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My original hope for the plan was that the Geth would recognise the rising tech level of the rest of the galaxy and be worried enough to accept the deal.

My current plan of action is to meet with Admiral Zaal'Koris vas Qwib-Qwib and tell them that you will put forward some resources to attempt to peacefully negotiate for the return of Rannoch, then should they agree, during a press conference tell the press that you will be sending an unarmed drone loaded with a message with the Geth after two weeks. After said two weeks send the message to the Geth and hope they respond.

The message mainly details things like - if the Geth move to this system here that is away from the relay network and let the Quarians reclaim Rannoch, the rest of the Galactic community will leave the Geth alone and not bother them. Also it asks for a response on a specific private extranet forum thread (shared between two accounts one of which you keep and the other sent as a username and password to the Geth) within ~1 month.

I mainly have a similar hope that they will at least respond to the message out of concern due to the rising tech.

Finally the message also includes a text on the way organics do diplomacy and a short note on why the organics are scared of them. (assumption here being that synthetics, especially a hive mind like the Geth can't understand humans so they need to know that what we are doing is how we treat other alien species.)
 
Sounds like a nice, well thought out plan. I can even tell you how it ends: the Geth ignore you like they have ignored everyone else for 300 years.
 
Just found something very interesting...

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Ammut said:
Initial Scanner Result: Moderate
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That actually implies that you can get close enough to scan Ammut

Furthermore

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Haestrom said:
TRAVEL ADVISORY: Haestrom is a geth stronghold. Military spy drones using cutting-edge stealth technology are the only vehicles that have returned unharmed from geth space. All civilian traffic is prohibited.
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Van Ropen said:
Sounds like a nice, well thought out plan. I can even tell you how it ends: the Geth ignore you like they have ignored everyone else for 300 years.
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It is also implied that no-one has actually tried to effect diplomatic relations with the Geth... the only thing of note has been spy drones, military attacks and other generally non-peacefull movements towards the Geth oh and the reason I do not agree with the possibility of charitable civilians is because all systems (other than Rannoch for some reason) note that civilians are banned from entering the Geth systems.

Van Ropen said:
Yeah. Everyone knows that, there was a mission to the planet.

What is your point?
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Considering how hard it has been made out to get into Geth systems how is the Normandy (I am not going to justify the Tantulus core and it takes far more than an hour to move around that system) going to this planet getting close enough to scan it and just leaving unmolested?
 
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JhonCollins said:
It is also implied that no-one has actually tried to effect diplomatic relations with the Geth... the only thing of note has been spy drones, military attacks and other generally non-peacefull movements towards the Geth oh and the reason I do not agree with the possibility of charitable civilians is because all systems (other than Rannoch for some reason) note that civilians are banned from entering the Geth systems.


Considering how hard it has been made out to get into Geth systems how is the Normandy (I am not going to justify the Tantulus core and it takes far more than an hour to move around that system) going to this planet getting close enough to scan it and just leaving unmolested?
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THE IES Stealth system. Also, geth do not have windows. Structural weakness.
 
Amberion said:
THE IES Stealth system. Also, geth do not have windows. Structural weakness.
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and the actual scanning process?

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Normandy_SR-2#Sensors_.26_Scanning said:
The Normandy SR-2 uses a variety of passive and active scanners, such as visual, thermographic, and radio detectors, radar, and LADAR (LAser Detection and Ranging). LADAR has a narrower field of view than radar, but ladar resolution allows images of detected objects to be assembled.
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I doubt that the Geth would miss that.
 
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