Yeah, I remember talking about that - Uber made the adjustment, I didn't because he had assigned the dice. But if we are making some minor adjustments anyways...Excellent, Thanks.
Van Ropen, on your plan: You have us researching Optical computers and Adv. mass effect theory on the same turn...
Edit: I feel like I've asked that before, but It's fairly late here, and I'm a little fuzzy at the moment.
Going to sleep now, as well. When you get up, consider bringing in the MKII suit, and dumping the remaining spare points into blackboxing?
You are wrong. Here, the quote from where we researched basic genemodding:
That's described as a standard way of birth in the alliance. Genetic engineering is qutie accepted in the mainstream society. A rejuvenative treatment should be even less controversial, especially when we have asari who live a thousand years at least and are so human-like. After all, humans were already working on life-prolong in games (what was a projected lifespan for humans in canon? 150? Something like that).
Don't we need the AI license from the Citadel, not the Alliance? I wanted Adv. xenobiology so that we could get that swing with the Citadel Council.
I think it's that we have to apply to the Alliance and if they approve then they'll apply on our behalf to the Council.
Getting Eternal Youth guarantees humanity a council seat. Maybe not now, but in the long perspective. And everyone would realize that. It would have an interesting effect, politically, I think. Humans will stop clamoring for one (because now they, each, personally, have lots of time to wait), and council species will accept that humans will be getting one at the same time. It should decrease tensions significantly. As a side-effect of that, I can see us being given some leniency in licensing procedure. Plus, Alliance would bend backwards for us at that point and help us greatly.
It's only an 800 point tech - not exactly expensive to fit in when we finish the current plan.
True. Speaking of tech, there's one thing we have left uncovered potentially: economics. Tony was an economic genius. Revy is super-rich. She could do some work in economic theory and stuff like stock-trading V.I. or developing planned economy with V.I.s or some such. Maybe sociology too, to predict and find soultions to possible future societal problems? Kinda like Catalyst, only sane and without ability to make Reapers 2.0.
Do you have a quote on Tony's economic genius? My impression was that he was just a good salesman and weapons designer.
One thing that occurs to me is that we're overestimating the importance of QE comms. What makes QE comm a killer app is the ability for warships to send real-time tactical and strategic data too and from Command. The Alliance and other Citadel military will pay us a handsome amount for that, no doubt, but it's hardly as necessary as we're prioritizing it.
Our problem isn't that we're communicating with far-flung, lightly equipped outriders; we're communicating from one secure point--our main labs in Landing--to other secure points--our manufacturing, and possibly laboratory, if that's allowed, facilities around the planet and across the galaxy. We don''t need fancy QE Comms for that, we have old, reliable tech that is provably, mathematically secure: we fill one of our super-frigates with storage media and send a giant multi-yottabyte one-time pad to each of our remote installations, then we can just send comms via the plain-Jane extranet with no chance of being eavesdropped on. Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a cargo hold full of data.
You are forgetting a couple of things:One thing that occurs to me is that we're overestimating the importance of QE comms. What makes QE comm a killer app is the ability for warships to send real-time tactical and strategic data too and from Command. The Alliance and other Citadel military will pay us a handsome amount for that, no doubt, but it's hardly as necessary as we're prioritizing it.
Our problem isn't that we're communicating with far-flung, lightly equipped outriders; we're communicating from one secure point--our main labs in Landing--to other secure points--our manufacturing, and possibly laboratory, if that's allowed, facilities around the planet and across the galaxy. We don''t need fancy QE Comms for that, we have old, reliable tech that is provably, mathematically secure: we fill one of our super-frigates with storage media and send a giant multi-yottabyte one-time pad to each of our remote installations, then we can just send comms via the plain-Jane extranet with no chance of being eavesdropped on. Don't underestimate the bandwidth of a cargo hold full of data.
Sorry, no, I don't have quotes on Tony being financial genius. So, dropped/ conceded.
"I pledge alligiance to Glorious Shepardesia..."
the council has to recognise it.
Well we don't need to use our own frigates to start with, obviously: we can rent one to start with and keep our own personnel around to make sure nobody messes around with our cargo. I'm just saying that, while QE Comms are a killer app, what makes them a killer app isn't what we need them for. All we need are absolutely secure encryption with our manufacturing sites (and possibly lab sites; I'm trying to assimilate all the stuff on this thread but I'm still not sure whether or not we're allowed to put R&D and pure research labs on other planets, far from Revy and her super-genius dynamo), and we can have that using old tech, without having to spend the points in QE comms until later, possibly after we've gotten AI research assistants.
As I pointed above, not really. QE is hellishly useful and we need it for more than secure communication.
Right, but all those considerations are not relevant right now. We don't care about our comms being untraceable or undetectable, because for now they're between known secure points. Same with logistics and TIR systems, unless you're suggesting we try to run a factory with no materials coming in and no product going out, in which case how is it a factory? Yes, QE comms are nifty keen, but I'd argue we should aim for AIs and their potential research boosts as soon as possible, and in that regard QE comms are a neat toy, and definitely something we should aim for eventually, but ultimately a lower priority than aiming for research boosts ASAP.
You're arguing from a position of logic and sober cost/benefit analysis, the right and proper way for people to make a decision. I'm saying that the majority of humanity, and frankly the majority of the other ME races, don't necessarily make decisions based on those criteria. To these people, Revy is stealing away humanity and the other races's rights to eventually die, as is the natural order, and go live with their sky daddy. I'm not saying there will be protests and official condemnation; I'm saying there will be radical militants out for Revy's head, and waves of suicide bombers, and a Council who won't want to get near Revy and Paragon Industries with a 10 light-year pole.
No, I'm arguing from position of statistics. Gene-screened and modded birth process is a standard one within alliance. This indicates widespread societal position on gene-modding. Same with life prolonging treatments that are already canon (I think it was to 150 years of projected average livespan and increasing in canon) - we see no strong public or political backlash against those.
We need QE commms before TIR for it to be combat effective. And not a factory but a research lab.
