- Location
- Gladstone, OR
Okay so this is admittedly late to the previous Thaumaturgy discussion, but I got tired of all the sandbagging. So I decided to look at the rules and create a nice summary of required traits. Before though, a couple of disclaimers:
You cannot train in arts without a teacher; this is explicit in the rules unless you are Occult 5, and that extends the Training Time to Years. You CAN however teach yourself Procedures.
So blah blah blah what does this all say: well, it says that anyone with a single dot of Occult can perform Apprentice level Procedures, and can learn up to Adept level procedures in ANY art. Ever. With just a single dot of Occult.
Is this systemically idea? Eh, I like how open it is once you really look at it, but I agree that rolling [Relevant Ability] would be better than focusing it all through Occult. I don't mind Occult Minimums when used well, but they weren't here.
There's more I could say but I'm tired.
- These rules are hard to pick out from the 2e corebook and for that reason, I understand dissatisfaction.
- NPCs are not meant to use XP as advancement, so take any declarations with a grain of salt.
Minimum Occult for Procedure | Minimum Occult for Art | |
Apprentice | 1 dot; anyone can do this with no training | 1 dot |
Initiate | 1 | 1 |
Adept | 1 | 3 |
Master | 3 | 5 |
Procedure Training Time Unfavored/Favored | Art Training Time Unfavored/Favored | |
One week per procedure/1 day per procedure | [Degree] Months/Weeks | |
Procedure BP/XP | Art BP/XP | |
1bp for 3 procedures, 1xp per procedure | 4bp/5bp per degree, 8/10xp per degree |
So blah blah blah what does this all say: well, it says that anyone with a single dot of Occult can perform Apprentice level Procedures, and can learn up to Adept level procedures in ANY art. Ever. With just a single dot of Occult.
Is this systemically idea? Eh, I like how open it is once you really look at it, but I agree that rolling [Relevant Ability] would be better than focusing it all through Occult. I don't mind Occult Minimums when used well, but they weren't here.
There's more I could say but I'm tired.