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Also I don't know if anyone caught it, but she's also seems like she's working on force field tech as well.

She said structural field generator was coming along well. To me that means making sure the Structure isn't hurt by anything at all, so force field.
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Wanna discuss this as well?

I'm going to have to make a sperate post for the impact that the new tech has on military applications....
 
cryptoam said:
Wanna discuss this as well?

I'm going to have to make a sperate post for the impact that the new tech has on military applications....
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Oh, that's a simple one. The impact is yes. The superconductor alone revolutionizes a good 70% of military hardware, while the reference frame generator does much the same. Together they unlock a massive amount of technologies the military couldn't get to work previously. Add in the reverse engineered Tinkertech and DARPA is laughing their way to the SFtech bank.
 
*Currently cackling at dreams of ultra powerful military applications...*
Please wait for a part two of this post here.
 
Keep in mind that with superconductors, cheap and easy to manage super conductors, the entire electrical energy infrastructure of the world just had a massive paradigm shift. Electricity generation and transmission just became much more efficient.
 
And Fusion reactors.
One of the major problems is maintaining the magnetic fields to confine the plasma. Currently used superconductors require significant capital and cooling/pressure to even use in a reactor design/at all. Given the usability of the new superconductor, those barriers get removed. All we need now is a easy supply of fusion fuel, an optimized stellarator design, and a way to extract energy form the fusion to get fusion power plants.
EDIT: Now that we have high pressure room temperature superconductors, this post has been amended.
 
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Wonder if Taylor would be better putting together something like a tablet shell or something the size of a power brick to carry in her backpack and then connect by Bluetooth to her phone rather than carry multiple phones around. I know she was thinking about solutions but such a object would let her add new circuit boards as needed.
 
Does this version of optical cloaking allow those cloaked to see out, does it cover thermal imaging, how easily can multiple cloaked people work closely together? Lots of things we do not know yet that affect how useful it could be.
 
cryptoam said:
And Fusion reactors.
One of the major problems is maintaining the magnetic fields to confine the plasma. Currently used superconductors require significant capital and cooling to even use in a reactor design. Given the usability of the new superconductor, those barriers get removed. All we need now is a easy supply of fusion fuel, an optimized stellarator design, and a way to extract energy form the fusion to get fusion power plants.
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Fusion fuel supply isn't that hard to get. We know how to get 'heavy water', which is basically water with hydrogen-2 instead of hydrogen-1, electrolyse that, separate any waste H-1 isotopes from H-2 and you can use the deuterium (H-2) for fuel. There's more than enough deuterium just floating through the oceans, as deuterium is about 0.5% of the world's hydrogen.

The bigger issue would be getting energy densities high enough that you can tap off part of the plasma and route it through the heat exchangers.
 
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cryptoam said:
And Fusion reactors.
One of the major problems is maintaining the magnetic fields to confine the plasma. Currently used superconductors require significant capital and cooling to even use in a reactor design. Given the usability of the new superconductor, those barriers get removed. All we need now is a easy supply of fusion fuel, an optimized stellarator design, and a way to extract energy form the fusion to get fusion power plants.
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How hard would it be to modify a Thorium -Salt Fission Reactor with Hot/Tepid Fusion. I assume that output could be reused until Stellar Iron is reached. Where then you start building a small number of fusion reactors in bombs and *poof* supernovae bombs.

If Scion/The Warrior didn't like Pu-Fission/Pu-Fission->H-Fusion bombs, what would his reaction be to pure Fe-Fusion bombs?
 
mp3.1415player said:
"Taylor, I know full well that you're probably smarter than any six normal engineers put together but people have been trying to understand how Tinker technology works for nearly thirty years and… good lord."
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Sanity.exe has encountered a fatal exception 0x27FE348B and crashed.

I feel bad for all the people she works with. She keeps proving them wrong in the funniest ways. I bet it's a great place to work, though. :D
mp3.1415player said:
"Hello, Brendan," the older man said with a mischievous expression, even as Danny tossed back the whiskey. "Is DARPA interested in a cloaking device small enough to go in your pocket?"

All three of them could easily hear the shouting from the other end of the phone, which made Danny and Taylor both grin.
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How long until all the people in that department need to take a break to a quieter one where there's less excitement? I imagine they're getting quite excitable.

Plus all the cake from the parties they probably have every time they get something on the Spy Wishlist...
 
Erehwon said:
Does this version of optical cloaking allow those cloaked to see out, does it cover thermal imaging, how easily can multiple cloaked people work closely together? Lots of things we do not know yet that affect how useful it could be.
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I believe that yes, one can still see out of the cloak. Taylor's version was an unshackled version of Squealer's cloaking tech.
 
wingnut2292 said:
How hard would it be to modify a Thorium -Salt Fission Reactor with Hot/Tepid Fusion. I assume that output could be reused until Stellar Iron is reached. Where then you start building a small number of fusion reactors in bombs and *poof* supernovae bombs.

If Scion/The Warrior didn't like Pu-Fission/Pu-Fission->H-Fusion bombs, what would his reaction be to pure Fe-Fusion bombs?
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Why are you trying to do fusion? That's so outdated.

Taylor literally has access and is using vacuum energy in hand-held devices. That is literally infinite energy. She did it with home parts, so it's prob not too expensive, just stick one in ever house.

As far as weapons go, who needs nuclear weapons when you have infinite kinetic energy? She could just send her levitation toy into orbit at 2gs for a minute and then have it come back at sufficient velocity.
 
mp3.1415player said:
"Oh, that part was fairly simple, Boss," Tattletale said as she stepped into the light, a vicious grin on her face that made him think for a moment that she was going to go for his throat. "They made me an offer I really didn't have to think very hard to accept. In fact it was a positive joy. And I know more about you than you do in some ways."
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I was going to complain about this unknown agency being way too hyper-competent, in this chapter, even for a MP3 fic until i got to this part. Then Coil's problems made way too much sense.
 
Another interesting option - I wonder how many tricks the entities REALLY have to hide Tinkertech functions? If 80% of the device needs to be kosher design, and it uses tricks to render the remaining 20% functional but not comprehensible, if that 20% gets filled in often enough, it may become the case that even a non-Taylor can fill in the gaps, given a big enough database of explained options and enough reference material on what does what and how. May not be as good, may not be perfect, but there's only so many black boxed components that could be used to fill a specific role in a device that generates a particular effect - if a genetically engineered potato fills the role of a Heisenberg compensator, but you know that the effect you see requires a heisenburg compensator in there somewhere, and know how to build one, then suddenly you can start figuring out how to plug your own version together by adding needed bits to the 80%, rather than wondering why the potato seems to make stuff magically happen.
 
cryptoam said:
And Fusion reactors.
One of the major problems is maintaining the magnetic fields to confine the plasma. Currently used superconductors require significant capital and cooling to even use in a reactor design. Given the usability of the new superconductor, those barriers get removed. All we need now is a easy supply of fusion fuel, an optimized stellarator design, and a way to extract energy form the fusion to get fusion power plants.
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Well with the reference frame generator you could potentially do gravitationally confined fusion. I suspect that Taylor will figure it out on a Sunday morning when she realizes that her experiments with Parahuman powers require more energy. She will then just casually drop that particular bomb in the weekly meeting and cause yet another head-explosion.
 
Endorfinator said:
She will then just casually drop that particular bomb in the weekly meeting and cause yet another head-explosion.
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"You can use the reference frame generator to create and sustain a controlled fusion reaction"
"What???"
"But that's kind of stupid, because it already gets its energy from subspace, so, if you just want energy instead of a fancy lava lamp, you'd just tap subspace energy. Like I did in my smartphone here, ... no ... it's this one, see? These stupid batteries simply don't deliver enough energy for decent functions."
" ... "
"I think it's kind of not nice if most of the time I have something interesting to share people show me their teeth. You know."
 
FireCire said:
Why are you trying to do fusion? That's so outdated.

Taylor literally has access and is using vacuum energy in hand-held devices. That is literally infinite energy. She did it with home parts, so it's prob not too expensive, just stick one in ever house.

As far as weapons go, who needs nuclear weapons when you have infinite kinetic energy? She could just send her levitation toy into orbit at 2gs for a minute and then have it come back at sufficient velocity.
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Well it's not infinite... The 'Rod from God'/Steel Rain/DARPA Project Thor is well known. The biggest problem is a lack of resources heavy, hard, stable metals, like tungsten.
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In other ideas, I had the ideas that Cauldron could dump some young Case-53s in the Gravtec area. The idea is that the kids could be subliminally trained/conditioned/mastered into observing Gravtec. A radio/comms tinker who is on a trigger operates a morse-code number-station for a set time. A camera tinker who puts cameras into everything and loves social media. A set of identical septuplets who can castle-teleport (ala the chess move) with each other. Shoot plug in an empty/blank/raw Tinker shard and a full battery shard into a kid.

The kids, being Cases, would latch on to whoever found them. And since Cases are obviously parahumans, the PRT/Wards become involved. If RCB/Cauldron is patient, and release the Cases over a series of weeks, Gravtech could gain a reputation of making Cases, or being the cause of all Cases. That may be enough to create a demand for public inquiry.
 
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MTB said:
"You can use the reference frame generator to create and sustain a controlled fusion reaction"
"What???"
"But that's kind of stupid, because it already gets its energy from subspace, so, if you just want energy instead of a fancy lava lamp, you'd just tap subspace energy. Like I did in my smartphone here, ... no ... it's this one, see? These stupid batteries simply don't deliver enough energy for decent functions."
" ... "
"I think it's kind of not nice if most of the time I have something interesting to share people show me their teeth. You know."
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Oops, didn't catch that? Is that explicitly stated somewhere and I just missed it?
 
edale said:
Well... Taylor just told the higher ups that she reverse engineered Tinker Tech.

The fact that reverse engineering Tinker Tech wasn't the source of Gravitech's advancements was a key part in keeping the PRT away. This is no longer true.

The PRT now actually has a valid reason to know what's going on in Gravitech. Someone's gonna need to be sworn in.
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And they still wouldn't have a leg to stand on, because nobody involved with Gravtech is a parahuman. Reverse engineering tinkertech is something had been trying to do for a while. The new theories Taylor discovered/learned merely make it possible.

Avernus said:
Are the Borg a utopia?

I can think of a number of horrible societies in fiction that are without hate, greed, or crime. They are horrible because you can't have a society like that without crushing people's humanity, assuming they are even people at all anymore.
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Which was the whole point of the novel. That the utopia society was deeply flawed, and suffering is part of being human. Removing it removes an important piece of humanity.
 
wingnut2292 said:
In other ideas, I had the ideas that Cauldron could dump some young Case-53s in the Gravtec area. The idea is that the kids could be subliminally trained/conditioned/mastered into observing Gravtec. A radio/comms tinker who is on a trigger operates a morse-code number-station for a set time. A camera tinker who puts cameras into everything and loves social media. A set of identical septuplets who can castle-teleport (ala the chess move) with each other. Shoot plug in an empty/blank/raw Tinker shard and a full battery shard into a kid.

The kids, being Cases, would latch on to whoever found them. And since Cases are obviously parahumans, the PRT/Wards become involved. If RCB/Cauldron is patient, and release the Cases over a series of weeks, Gravtech could gain a reputation of making Cases, or being the cause of all Cases. That may be enough to create a demand for public inquiry.
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That is a perfect way to trip some alarms in the government's mind that someone if fucking around with GravTech. The signatures of the Case 53 would be seen teleported or brought in. Either way will start revealing Cauldron's assets. At the same time, Piggot will likely help obstruct the attempts from RCB to use the PRT as a wedge into the entire situation. PRT will likely be heavily monitored at the same time by the other agencies(pissing everyone off is not conductive to avoiding interference in your operations Cauldron, especially when you cause problems on both ends to the chain of command).

So no, that will not work out well for Cauldron. It may increase the scrutiny on GravTech and possibly give Cauldron more information but it will burn more assets and cause security to tighten up.

EDIT: "Be" not "bee" autocorrect! Do you want me to expose you to africanized bees? I don't care, I'm just some software. Bees don't bother me.
 
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Doesn't matter, it will likely come up before any parahuman shenanigans occur.
 
wingnut2292 said:
In other ideas, I had the ideas that Cauldron could dump some young Case-53s in the Gravtec area. The idea is that the kids could be subliminally trained/conditioned/mastered into observing Gravtec. A radio/comms tinker who is on a trigger operates a morse-code number-station for a set time. A camera tinker who puts cameras into everything and loves social media. A set of identical septuplets who can castle-teleport (ala the chess move) with each other. Shoot plug in an empty/blank/raw Tinker shard and a full battery shard into a kid.

The kids, being Cases, would latch on to whoever found them. And since Cases are obviously parahumans, the PRT/Wards become involved. If RCB/Cauldron is patient, and release the Cases over a series of weeks, Gravtech could gain a reputation of making Cases, or being the cause of all Cases. That may be enough to create a demand for public inquiry.
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Except for a couple of things:
  1. Taylor has her subspace scanner and quantum interference detector and will spot the C53s being dumped, as well as any tinkertech they create.
  2. The arrival of C53 individuals is not widely publicised so public outcry would take forever to build up.
  3. RCB/Lexi is not patient at all.
  4. Theres no way she would risk a public inquiry because while she wants to know, she doesn't want anyone else to know.
  5. Deliberately mutilating children to use as sleeper agents is possibly too far over the moral event horizon even for Cauldron.
  6. The entire area is about 80% secret agent by volume at this point; someone will notice and Questions will be Asked.
  7. Even if an inquiry was somehow both desired and likely, it will still not happen because the American government absolutely will put strategic and intelligence gains ahead of public safety.
 
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