It feels like the Seed for our own HeavenI feel like that's intentional. It's the only option with an extra effect. This feels like a bit of a "trap", or at the very least a tradeoff.
It feels like the Seed for our own HeavenI feel like that's intentional. It's the only option with an extra effect. This feels like a bit of a "trap", or at the very least a tradeoff.
This statement is just false on so many levels though (Lugh is far more experienced than Hiyori in such matters, and her motives are plainly comprehensible with the correct context, context that Lugh might already have).You cannot fathom what I fight for, and what I am willing to do. [Shoot Lugh]
>Kuro's internal priority is to protect the Real World.
Switching tacks, what do you think Hiyori the character wants and prioritizes in the long term? Might be easier to approach this vote from this angle and all.>Lugh is asking you, more or less, if you would be willing to kill and under what context.
Makes sense, but wow do we need to choke that off ASAP if true - that would be a pretty terrible Rule to impose on the rest of the world?
Turn on the news. Doesn't matter which channel
[X] Write-In [I'll do anything to prevent another Sword Art Online] (Tank the Bullet with Ash Nazg)
-[X] So that not everyone needs to be strong (by Kayaba's standards, or by GGO's, or by hour's, or by mine, or whatever half-baked rule that a Chosen can come up with)
How does this sound? Feel like this is also Blank's problem with the existing world, and it's main feature of Diversity if that makes sense?
[ ] Write-In [FREE]
>Lugh is asking you, more or less, if you would be willing to kill and under what context.
>You can also write a dramatic resolution to the mexican standoff!
>The QM will create a relevant skill.
>Kuro has previously chosen to prioritize the lives of others over the life of herself during a prior vote. If your write-in contradicts this, you may find yourself in conflict with your Shadow.
Remind me what starfall crater is? And anyways, we're holding the black star atm. Can we even change a gun without Lugh shooting us?@afreaknamedpete so to clarify, will this replace our current iteration of Real Deal, or add another Real Deal Trait?
Regardless:
[X] Write-in: [I'm surprised you haven't figured this out!] (out yourself as an SAO Survivor before attacking with Starfall Crater)
-Kuro's main priority is to protect the Real World while also preventing anyone from going through the same trauma she experienced in SAO.
-Kuro is reluctant to kill, and will only do so if circumstances force her to do so. She is otherwise willing to do whatever it takes to protect the Real World and help others along the way.
I hope this write-in isn't too similar to any of the existing options, or is a cop-out on the front of intent to kill.
Ah, I see. I'm not sure how feasible this is but I like the idea so
No fucking shot. That's crazy.>Lugh intends to teach you another 'lesson'!
>You have gained the new MAJOR ACTION: [Intent//[PLAN]. This allows you to WRITE-IN a major action.
This is probably the option I most agree with thus far in spirit, but something about the wording bothers me. Maybe it's because Death Games aren't our only major seed-related obstacles? It feels too focused on the now for such a big decision, even if it mainly refers to Kuro.[X] I want the Death Game to end. [Activate ASH NAZG and tank Lugh's Bullet with Null:Curse]
>Kuro's priority is stopping those who use the SEED to force their idea of strength on others. If they, or SEED itself, have to die, so be it.
Fair point, I'm using "Death Game" as a shorthand for every time a SEED game tries something that encroaches on reality, be it SAO death-in-real-life stuff, ALO brainwashing or Death Gun shit in GGO. I would say that - in some ways - for Hiyori, SAO still hasn't ended and this current crisis is just more of the same.Maybe it's because Death Games aren't our only major seed-related obstacles?
I used the same wording as the original examples to try and fit the pattern, but good to know it came off that way to you.Fair point, I'm using "Death Game" as a shorthand for every time a SEED game tries something that encroaches on reality, be it SAO death-in-real-life stuff, ALO brainwashing or Death Gun shit in GGO. I would say that - in some ways - for Hiyori, SAO still hasn't ended and this current crisis is just more of the same.
War, war never changes.
I would note that Lugh is specifically asking what would it take for Hiyori to kill someone, and your write-in doesn't seem to answer that. I think our language needs to be more direct than than "foiling" or "stopping" people.
This phrasing sounds like putting off the decision through using vague terms (how unwilling, exactly, is "reluctant"? Who decides when the threat is sufficiently neutralized, and how?). It seems like, when push comes to shove, Hiyori will keep finding reasons it's not absolutely necessary. We're trying to convince Lugh of our determination, after all.
I was using reluctant in the same way that the original prompts did, in that choosing not to go for lethal options when Hiyori can't bring an enemy down by stripping them of their power like she did Sugou, or, conversely, choosing to go straight for the kill when such options are available would be out of character and risk consequences with her shadow.This phrasing sounds like putting off the decision through using vague terms (how unwilling, exactly, is "reluctant"? Who decides when the threat is sufficiently neutralized, and how?). It seems like, when push comes to shove, Hiyori will keep finding reasons it's not absolutely necessary. We're trying to convince Lugh of our determination, after all.
I'm also wary of committing to sort of being an Ally of Justice everywhere, at all times, which is why I limited the wording. Our cryptosis acquaintance uses GGO (a SEED game) to basically con people. She's a villain in a sense, but I wouldn't want to spend time on fighting her or any number of similarly less than crucial issues when we have world-ending problems to focus on. Hiyori herself forced others (ALO players) into serving her goals (saving the world, vengeance against Sugo, etc.). Just in general reality is full of unjust systems that let the strong (according to those systems) abuse the weak, so I feel opposing one thing (SEED trying to become reality for the players) is best. I could accept something more focused, like this:
[X] I want people to stop playing games with everyone's lives. [Activate ASH NAZG and tank Lugh's Bullet with Null:Curse]
>Kuro's priority is stopping those who use the SEED to force others into risking their lives for their own ideals or goals.
>Kuro will prioritize removing villains and masterminds' means of control and opposing their goals, even if killing them is the only way to stop them before they hurt more people.
(Shooting his gun out of his hand is something I absolutely don't believe she's capable of, and doing these sorts of tricks with a lethal weapon is effectively saying "I'm willing to risk your death to look cool." Tanking his attack already disarms him.)
I definitely agree. As @Alcor said, Hiyori has a lot of room to develop her views in the future. I personally have high hopes for the Augma arc, since it'll probably challenge the real/virtual separation in interesting ways.
While the line is Cringe, I do think Kuro's priority here is to protect the Real World.
@afreaknamedpete so to clarify, will this replace our current iteration of Real Deal, or add another Real Deal Trait?
If we don't get a Persona later with an Archetype that gives us bonuses on edginess (Sauron doesn't count, that's more villainess-esque bs, I'm talking pure, unadulterated, anime edgelord cringe) I'm suing