TreeQuest: Magitech (Riot Quest)

Plus it would be a new attack against an enemy that seems to change to be strong against what we used. So the next attack may be designed to be very resistant against fire.

Besides worries like 'poison our creek with malice' and 'attack our allies'.
While we don't have enough information to confirm this, we should prepare for it anyway, if for no other reason than because our enemies could luck into something largely, if not totally, immune to our current attacks. Or, as I said, the opposite: The more elements we have, the more weaknesses we can exploit.
 
[X][Action] Research Intermediate Movement (Magic Research) (Movement Research)
-[X] Destructive Testing on the invader vines.
[X][Focus] Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn!
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack x2
[X][Squirrel] Coordinate Anti-Evil Vine War
[X][Deer] Assist fight against Evil Vines
[X][Moles] Undermine Evil Vine roots
[X][Bees] Remove any additional seedlings the Evil Vines attempt to send
[X][Ants] Clean Evil Vines off Trees
[X][Wolves] Assist fight against Evil Vines
 
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The attacks on us have been very clever, and very aware of us. I don't have the authority to demand we turn about and max out Void Trees, but we can probably afford to include counter-espionage into our magic research next winter.

I'm also mildly expecting high levels of magic expertise to require specialized trees to R&D. The Root Trees are going to get such a workout once we shore up the creeks and get our weather trees up and running.
 
[][Minor Question] (to Materson) "We've seen you use fire that can burn water, or at least something very much like it, a lot since these Vines showed up. Does that mean you can use water that doesn't boil too, should the need arise?"
-[] "On that note: What kind of monster would you use Water on?"
 
[X][Action] Write-in: Study the Vine's attacks. What was it they were looking for with that first attack? Is there a weakpoint in the attack method we can use to reduce the damage done? Can we guide the attacks so they seemingly find their target whilst also not doing any damage to us? In short, what can we learn so that future attacks do less damage and give whoever is creating these Malice-Entities as little information about us as possible.
 
Furthermore, you realize that you've targeted multiple noticeably-distinct creatures, and that this project will be more difficult for working to Connect with Crows, Ravens, Jays, Magpies, and probably a few other birds you've seen. That said, you expect the rewards to be proportionately powerful. (6.3 of 30 successes towards Corvids.)
Seems more efficient to do them all at once. But we aren't getting them in time to help with the vines so perhaps not a priority.

an attempt to damage the Vines by telepathically projecting nonsense at them ultimately only resulted in giving the Forest a mental ache and minor bits of structural damage. (-3 Resources. Bad luck, one and all, to the best of your knowledge.)
So it could potentially work. Although I suspect it would work better against something that was more Mind and less Instinct.

No easy victory here. Nice to have a challenge.


[X][Action] Coordinate fight against Evil Vines (Communication)

[X][Deer] Fight <Vines>
[X][Moles] Undermine Hostile Roots (Vines)
[X][Beavers] Chew Hostile Plants (Vines)
[X][Bees] Remove any additional seedlings the Vines attempt to send
[X][Ants] Attack Enemy (Vines)

Time to call forth the Wrath Of Nature.
 
Time to call forth the Wrath Of Nature.
Do we still count as Nature, though? I mean, we're altering our surroundings to better suit ourselves, we've got predators and prey working together, we're casting spells on a daily basis to achieve our goals (which we actually have)... Frankly, I don't think we're very Nature-y anymore.
 
[X][Action] Provide Dark Magic for an attempted Light/Dark Negacion attack on the vines.


[X][Focus] Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn!
[X][Focus] Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn!!
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack
[X][Squirrel] Coordinate Anti-Evil Vine War
[X][Deer] Assist fight against Evil Vines
[X][Moles] Undermine Evil Vine roots
[X][Bees] Remove any additional seedlings the Evil Vines attempt to send
[X][Ants] Clean Evil Vines off Trees
[X][Wolves] Assist fight against Evil Vines
 
I just want to point out again that Focusing on Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn! only provides 3 automatic successes per Focus action (9 for all 3 Focus actions) while Focusing on Focused Light Attack provides 6 automatic successes per Focus action (18 for all 3 Focus actions). The GM has stated that there are enough Vines in range for the Focued Light Attack for all 3 Focus actions.
 
I just want to point out again that Focusing on Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn! only provides 3 automatic successes per Focus action (9 for all 3 Focus actions) while Focusing on Focused Light Attack provides 6 automatic successes per Focus action (18 for all 3 Focus actions). The GM has stated that there are enough Vines in range for the Focued Light Attack for all 3 Focus actions.
This is before Weakness multipliers, however. I don't know what their Light affinity is, but Fire does 3x damage to them, so those 3 automatic successes per action are actually 9 before whatever penalties we may suffer.

If you're gonna provide numbers, at least make sure you do all the math first so they're the right numbers.
 
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This is before Weakness multipliers, however. I don't know what their Light affinity is, but Fire does 3x damage to them, so those 3 automatic successes per action are actually 9 before whatever penalties we may suffer.

If you're gonna provide numbers, at least make sure you do all the math first so they're the right numbers.
That's a good point, but shouldn't a Focused Light Attack be pretty much a laser that sets the Vines on fire? @Robinton, can you please clarify whether a Focused Light Attack gets a damage multiplier as well?
 
Was anything said on how hard/feasible is it to extend our Growth to animal life?
All i remember is a section from a turn post with the money quote being "You suspect that all of those are possible, none of those are easy". It seems quite weaponizable, though.
You've had no success trying to enlarge Animals by Magic, nor trying to speed their Growth. Unless you count "feed them often, regularly, plentifully, and nutritiously," which certainly seems to serve well in the natural way. You haven't attempted any test that seems likely to be destructive on your Connected creatures. That said, you have made some attempts at destructive testing - a few mundane spiders, a hungry coyote, and a single Bee (that was dying and specifically indicated it was fine dying faster for your Research) have all… basically exploded, and had their bodies turn weirdly Tree-like on some level. Non-Destructive careful testing has had no meaningful results. On the upside, you are fairly certain you understand why: you are Trees; Animals are different enough from you that you would have to find a workaround for the sheer differences, and the fact that Magic generally has no way to pull the correct pattern for a Squirrel from a Tree. You could spend a lot of time analyzing them, try to figure out how to get Magic to acquire their pattern from them via your Connection, or possibly even try teaching your Connected animals how to perform Magic. You suspect that all of those are possible, none of those are easy (the middle one perhaps the least difficult), and each of those has its own upsides and downsides.
 
@Robinton IF you could clarify the effectiveness of a Fire attack vs Focused Light attack on the Vines for the Focus, that would be great.

To the rest: If focused light is close enough to Fire in efficacy once all other factors are taken into account, we should go Focused Light. It's free Light Magic training.

Also, we should probably spend a Favor having the Village tear off the vines.
 
@Robinton
You could spend a lot of time analyzing them, try to figure out how to get Magic to acquire their pattern from them via your Connection, or possibly even try teaching your Connected animals how to perform Magic. You suspect that all of those are possible, none of those are easy (the middle one perhaps the least difficult), and each of those has its own upsides and downsides.
Would the middle one have to be a Communication action or can it be Research?
 
Alright, annoying vines, turnabout is fair play.

[X] Inspired by the Venus Fly-trap, and the Vines themselves, try to figure out how 'eating' works.
-[X] Destructive testing on Vines

[X][Deer] Fight <Vines>
[X][Moles] Undermine Hostile Roots (Vines)
[X][Beavers] Chew Hostile Plants (Vines)
 
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[X][Minor Question] Speak to Mr. Tavish about the existence of the Fire Within and our ability to shape it, and ask him if there exists other sorts of "stuff" Within, such as the Light Within.
He studies several books at length.

"I've found beginner references to Earth Within and Water Within. Lightning Within and Air Within show up a few times in higher-level descriptions. I don't think I've seen a Light Within reference, unless you're counting 'warmth begets Light; you cannot see it, but every warm thing is glowing, for eyes to see that can.'"

My guess? Probably our equivalent to their "mother vine." Another way they're underestimating us: Every single tree in our Forest is completely sentient, not just the progenitor.
IC: Very good guess.
OOC: Confirmed. And the kraken-thing was looking for that sort of weakness, too. It's common to constructs and things like you, and even when it's not present, there are often ways to Curse the whole by Cursing the First Root.

If you knew another year or two of Magic, I'd give you a project to seize and burn the Vines' first Root in order to destroy (or cripple) them all.

[][Minor Question] (to Materson) "We've seen you use fire that can burn water, or at least something very much like it, a lot since these Vines showed up. Does that mean you can use water that doesn't boil too, should the need arise?"
-[] "On that note: What kind of monster would you use Water on?"
"Sure! Haven't used that one often, but it's a decent way to deal damage through armor."

"Some Slime monsters are weak to water. Most infection-type or cloud-type nasties, too. A couple of desert monsters. Maybe a giant cat, if I just wanted to drive it off."

[][Minor Question] (to Materson) "Could Fire/Ice/Darkness Negation be a thing or are they not opposed enough?"
Ice and Darkness aren't opposed enough. But the other two pairings work fine individually.

So it could potentially work. Although I suspect it would work better against something that was more Mind and less Instinct.
Very good guess.

I just want to point out again that Focusing on Fuego! Pyrofuego! Burn! only provides 3 automatic successes per Focus action (9 for all 3 Focus actions) while Focusing on Focused Light Attack provides 6 automatic successes per Focus action (18 for all 3 Focus actions). The GM has stated that there are enough Vines in range for the Focued Light Attack for all 3 Focus actions.
That's a good point, but shouldn't a Focused Light Attack be pretty much a laser that sets the Vines on fire? @Robinton, can you please clarify whether a Focused Light Attack gets a damage multiplier as well?
@Robinton IF you could clarify the effectiveness of a Fire attack vs Focused Light attack on the Vines for the Focus, that would be great.
Under non-drought circumstances (confirmed), you expect Focused Light to provide modestly more damage as a Focus action. For standard Tree actions, just keep burning the thing.

@Robinton

Would the middle one have to be a Communication action or can it be Research?
I believe it would be both, or (more likely yet) a joint project.
 
Hey everybody: We can, per GM, burn our Village Favor alongside two tree dice to auto-success at removing the Vines inside our forest. We've got three Trees on removing vines; can I request that we burn the favor and stop voting for vine removal with any of our creatures (outside of Bees)? Also, focused light for a Focused Action is more effective than fire and gives us free Light Magic training.

[X][Action] Shore up Creek Banks
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack (Vines) x1
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack (Vines) x2
[X][Focus] Focused Light Attack (Vines) x3
[X][Squirrel] Coordinate Anti-Evil Vine War
[X][Deer] Assist fight against Evil Vines
[X][Moles] Undermine Evil Vine roots
[X][Bees] Remove any additional seedlings the Evil Vines attempt to send
[X][Ants] Attack Enemy (Vines)
[X][Wolves] Assist fight against Evil Vines
[X][Burn Favor] Ask the villagers to remove vines and seedlings within the forest, under the protection of our Shields.

@Robinton I see someone is trying to do a Light/Dark Negacion attack on the vines, is that going to be effective given that we've never tried that Negacion in any other format? I would think that a straight up Darkness attack on their growth would be equally or more so effective than a Negacion we've never done.
 
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To all current appearances and study... no.

Which is a bit odd, actually.
Crazy thought: Every Tree changed in whatever way we're different from normal Trees completely independently, and then subsequently banded together upon realizing they're all part of the same Forest.

In other words, every single Tree is its own First Root, and the Forest itself doesn't have one because it was never truly a single entity to begin with.

...yeah, I know, this is probably completely and utterly absurd by all known magical laws, but what if...
 
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