Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)

Imo the way you've phrased this shows that the Force itself is not the fault at all in this situation.

It's how people perceive and use it. The Force didn't kill all those people. It was the constant battles and struggles between ideologies that did so.

The Death Star, for example, was a technological terror, not a Force one. But it was equally monstrous.
The force is to dangerous to be left alive, anyone could be born with it and if they are they would be influenced by it, it's like having the chance of some random kid being born with a nuke, the results would be disastrous.
 
Sith start off with mastering their passions and striving for them.
Sith are striving for their passions yes. But they do not Master them, not in my view. They are egoistical assholes, who only care about themselves, they are wholly ruled by their passions and don't care about others at all.

Palpantine was not calm and collected during his fights. He literally gets more powerful from his emotions. This is canon, this is the Dark Side. This is why he laughs and/or screams in rage in all his fights. In no way can you say he is less emotional than the Jedi. Being a great manipulator and planner does not mean one can't also be passionate and emotional.
 
The force is to dangerous to be left alive, anyone could be born with it and if they are they would be influenced by it, it's like having the chance of some random kid being born with a nuke, the results would be disastrous.
Meetra Surik had this fascinating ability to sever's one connection to the Force and her willingness to disconnect was what impressed Kreia in the beginning because here was someone who had turned their back on the Force. Technically you don't need to kill the Force to make it so the Force sensitives can't actually feel the Force anymore.

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Palpantine was not calm and collected during his fights. He literally gets more powerful from his emotions. This is canon, this is the Dark Side. This is why he laughs and/or screams in rage in all his fights. In no way can you say he is less emotional than the Jedi. Being a great manipulator and planner does not mean one can't also be passionate and emotional.
That he was passionate and emotional at times does not mean that he couldn't be calm and collected when needed.
 
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Bunny
[X] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.

Story
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.

Ambition
[X] To Find out who Killed Qui-gon and Obi-wan? (+2000XP, +1 CP)
[X] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
 
[x] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)

[x] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)

[x] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.


You're mistaking my point. @Arthellion summed it better. Palpatine might've used hatred and anger to fuel his powers but when he needed to control and channel his emotions he did it.

Up until the moment he was too busy zapping Luke to notice Vaders redemption.
 
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[X] [Bunny] Denied the pet, saying, "No, use T'da to remember me."
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.
[X] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)
 
[X] [Bunny] Denied the pet, saying, "No, use T'da to remember me."
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.
[X] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
[X] [Ambition] To improve your relationship with Dooku (+1000 XP)
 
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Bunny
[X] [Bunny] Denied the pet, saying, "No, use T'da to remember me."

Story
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.

Ambition
[X] [Ambition] To improve your relationship with Dooku (+1000 XP)
[X] [Ambition] To Learn how to Swim (+1500XP)
 
[x] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)

[x] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)

[x] [Story] Search fluffy cute creatures
 
[x] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)

[x] [Story] Find remains of trade federation's combat drones to study them and\or grab some parts for later use.
 
You're mistaking my point. @Arthellion summed it better. Palpatine might've used hatred and anger to fuel his powers but when he needed to control and channel his emotions he did it.
See, I kind of see where you are coming from. But to me, this kind of thing veers a little too close to "the Sith were right all along" style of thinking. The Jedi try to bottle up their emotions, and fail. Palpantine and the Sith don't, and they instead control their emotions and channel them to become more powerful. This is not supported by canon, since almost every Sith happens to be a violent, sadistic killer. Sure, Palpantine can control himself and appear charming, but beneath it all, he is far from emotionally stable.

So, in my opinion, the Sith don't control their emotions and desires. They are controlled by them. They can channel them into something somewhat productive, say using their hate to build the determination it takes to maintain a thousand year plan. But at the end of the day, when all pretense and other factors are stripped away, the Sith only care for themselves. They take what they want, do whatever they want because they feel like it. This is, for instance, why they kill people who have mildly irritated them or torture people for fun. When not following some greater plan, they have no filters. They are slaves to their desires.

Also, I'd like to remind you all that Palps died because he gloated and got too emotional. He wanted Luke as his apprentice, and did not kill him when he had the chance. When he did decide to kill him, he gloated and tortured Luke, instead of just killing him. Then he was too blinded by his own arrogance and his own triumph that he didn't realize that Vader would turn on him, before it was too late.
 
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Bunny
[X] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.

It's a good way to gain some light side points and the thought is appreciated.

Story
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.

I personally want to build a better bond with Dooku.

Ambition
[X] To Find out who Killed Qui-gon and Obi-wan? (+2000XP, +1 CP)

Finding Maul is the first step

[X] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)

We might be visiting Tatooine anyway and this seems pretty simple.

I really want to get some fluffy creatures for our initiate friends, but that can wait for the moment.

We also might want to alternate between the checking on our family ambition and the Shii-Cho ambition.
 
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[x] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)

[x] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)

[x] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.
 
[X] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.
[X] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
[x] [Ambition] Find some fluffy cute creature to send to our friends back in our Jedi clan so they will always remember us! (1500XP)
 
Overconfidence is a character flaw and it proved fatal in the end, but he had every reason to be since he'd been Emperor for twenty years and not once had Vader moved against him.

That still doesn't change the fact that Palpatine clearly lost it, not does it detract from theboveraching point that, well, if the Sith are these ubemench who are truly in control of themselves... then why do they always end up the villains? Why, excluding darth vectivus (and I have elaborated my reasons as to why I do not believe he is a good example- add to this that reading between the lines he seems to have indulged in the same petty sadism that other Sith often did, he just didn't get caught/killed for it explicitly) do they all either end up leaving the order or participate in blatantly evil and despotic regimes?
 
See, I kind of see where you are coming from. But to me, this kind of thing veers a little too close to "the Sith were right all along" style of thinking. The Jedi try to bottle up their emotions, and fail. Palpantine and the Sith don't, and they instead control their emotions and channel them to become more powerful. This is not supported by canon, since almost every Sith happens to be a violent, sadistic killer. Sure, Palpantine can control himself and appear charming, but beneath it all, he is far from emotionally stable.

So, in my opinion, the Sith don't control their emotions and desires. They are controlled by them. They can channel them into something somewhat productive, say using their hate to build the determination it takes to maintain a thousand year plan. But at the end of the day, when all pretense and other factors are stripped away, the Sith only care for themselves. They take what they want, do what they whatever they want because they feel like it. This is, for instance, why they kill people who have mildly irritated them or torture people for fun. When not following some greater plan, they have no filters. They are slaves to their desires.

Also, I'd like to remind you all that Palps died because he gloated and got too emotional. He wanted Luke as his appremtice, and did not kill him wheh he had the chance. When he did decide to kill him, he gloated and tortured Luke, instead of just killing him. Then he was too blinded by his own arrogance and his own triumph that he didn't realize that Vader would turn on him, before it was too late.
You do know that channeling your emotions towards something productive, whether it's for good or not is controlling them, so what exactly are you going by they're controlled by them but can channel them? Like if Palps had in canon, before he became Emperor, allowed his emotions to control him, he would've been found out. He's learnt to control them, but that he doesn't always reign himself in, especially after he knows his victory is assured is a mark of overconfidence and a character flaw. Not something that is necessarily bad since everyone has those.

I'm not speaking of other Sith, besides Palps, Plagueis and Dooku here. Because they were quite SIth to me, ruthless, at times emotional and passionate, but when they needed to they were in control. It's fine if you don't like their path or the choices of the Sith that's fine, but if all your argument boils down to they were sadistic killers than isn't this more of a personal preference?

That still doesn't change the fact that Palpatine clearly lost it, not does it detract from theboveraching point that, well, if the Sith are these ubemench who are truly in control of themselves... then why do they always end up the villains? Why, excluding darth vectivus (and I have elaborated my reasons as to why I do not believe he is a good example- add to this that reading between the lines he seems to have indulged in the same petty sadism that other Sith often did, he just didn't get caught/killed for it explicitly) do they all either end up leaving the order or participate in blatantly evil and despotic regimes?

Because that's what they want to? They're not good people? They actually enjoy the suffering of others? They're Sith? What does them being evil have to do with being able to control and channel their emotions when needed?
 
Overconfidence is a character flaw and it proved fatal in the end, but he had every reason to be since he'd been Emperor for twenty years and not once had Vader moved against him.
I just had a thought on (one reason) why Anakin proved to be the Chosen One.

Throughout his life, he was controlled or treated as a pawn by others. As a slave. As the Chosen One (by many Jedi). As Palpatine's good little tool.

The moment he broke free and truly achieved his destiny was when he saved his son. The power of bonds that had been imparted to him in childhood by Shmi Skywalker made him truly unique compared to all the Jedi and Sith at the time, along with his tremendous Force potential.

A bit simplistic of an explanation, but I like it. It seems rather poetic to me, selflessness combined with the tremendous power of our relationships with one another achieved redemption and breaking free of the chains of others and fate.

ADDED: Yoda advised him to let go of all that he feared to lose. Palpatine manipulated him by playing on his intense attachment to those exact things. In this sense also, he achieved balance in the end, did he not?
 
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Bunny
[X] [Bunny] Accepted T'da as your pet.

Story
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.

Ambition
[X] To Find out who Killed Qui-gon and Obi-wan? (+2000XP, +1 CP)
[X] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
 
[X] [Bunny] Denied the pet, saying, "No, use T'da to remember me."
[X] [Story] Find remains of trade federation's combat drones to study them and\or grab some parts for later use.
[X] [Ambition] Achieve Level 3 in Shii-Cho (+750 XP)
[X] [Ambition] Build a Combat Droid (+1000XP)

Starting to build our future separatist droid army early and saving Anakin's childhood


I don't get that that find fluffy animal ambition. It looks not that trivial to do and effect is very questionable.
 
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[X] [Bunny] Denied the pet, saying, "No, use T'da to remember me."
[X] [Story] Did as Dooku asked and practiced and read.
[X] [Ambition] To Check on your family? (+2,000, +1CP)
[X] [Ambition] To improve your relationship with Dooku (+1000 XP)
 
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