Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)

Iandude0 · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
I upped the ambition reward after the vote when I realized the scale was off. I believe I upped Teräs Käsi's rewars as well at the time.

mm, but even then I'm pretty sure we don't really know the big flaws and benefits of the options. I mean, people are saying the Jedi option has more freedom while the Palawan one doesn't.

I mean, that seems straight up wrong to me because the Jedi are going to have to teach Anakin a very rigid set of very different things that'd take up a lot of time, and leave very little to socialization or making friends.

Meanwhile the Teras Kasi, while training one thing to master, don't train nearly the breadth of skills the Jedi require Anakin to train, thus allowing us a lot more freedom to pursue other interests.

I'd see one as the one that trains many skills to a passable level, with little room for deviation, while the other trains one skill to mastery, and gives more wiggle room to do other things while you're there.

Am I right in this assessment?

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

But here are the definitive attributes of Teräs Käsi since I've beeb giving the pros of Jedi:

-Teräs Kasi mastery guaranteed
-OC's companions
-Dark Jedi Training once you've mastered Teräs Kasi
-access unfiltered to blue and red holocron
-more assassin style training
-mystic visions
-potential to take leadership of Palawa yourself
-access to old Sith histories and language
- first two years will be very "monk deprivation" but some nifty perk gains
-midichlorian manipulation training
-extend life...though that's true for Jedi eventually as well

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

Iandude0 said:
mm, but even then I'm pretty sure we don't really know the big flaws and benefits of the options. I mean, people are saying the Jedi option has more freedom while the Palawan one doesn't.

I mean, that seems straight up wrong to me because the Jedi are going to have to teach Anakin a very rigid set of very different things that'd take up a lot of time, and leave very little to socialization or making friends.

Meanwhile the Teras Kasi, while training one thing to master, don't train nearly the breadth of skills the Jedi require Anakin to train, thus allowing us a lot more freedom to pursue other interests.

I'd see one as the one that trains many skills to a passable level, with little room for deviation, while the other trains one skill to mastery, and gives more wiggle room to do other things while you're there.

Am I right in this assessment?

Freedom will be equal for both in the sense of you doing what you want to...Jedis just a more structured freedom if that makes sense?

Fabled Ranger · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
Firstly, I understand your frustration and it's not without cause. I'll say regarding the Jedi XP, I believe I changed that either in between Prologue 2 and 3 or 3 and Phantom Menace 1(can someone find that change? On phone atm) This is not a new change to incentive votes; it's a clerical error that was my fault. Copy and pasting the Sheet caused that to get lost.

I edited that ambition up when i did after it had been voted on bc I realized with my current rate of XP that only 10k was far too low a reward. You'll be level 20ish at least when you complete it if you do. Currently it takes around 4K XP to level up. That will increase a lot by the time you're in the 20s

I upped the ambition reward after the vote when I realized the scale was off. I believe I upped Teräs Käsi's rewars as well at the time.

Arthellion said:
Here was the edit to the numbers: Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest) | Page 31

Thank you for addressing my concerns, and linking your change. I do appreciate it, though I have a question. Why is their more exp and chosen points for the Jedi option rather than Teras Kasi's? One player said it might be due to more prestige, but I would like to hear your opinion.

Lalzparty · Jan 22, 2018

The one problem I have with the Jedi is that they don't allow themselves to have material wealth.
I propose we learn how to hack and secretly take away all the Confederacy's money/credits/loot while beating up their droids and taking over their facilities/spaceships/planets in the name of the Republic.
Edit: All for the sake of the inevitable separation of ourselves from the Jedi Order.

Fanhunter696 · Jan 22, 2018

[X] [Story] Write-in: Go with Qui-Gon and join the Jedi. Tell Master Zan about the offer to study at the Jedi academy. Say that it was a dream of ours to become a Knight, but that training under her has been an honor. Ask if, upon passing the Trials, we could come study under her once more. If she says yes, ask her if there's a means to contact her on her home planet and if she has any independent study materials we could use while at the Academy. If she says no, express our regret.

veekie · Jan 22, 2018

[X] [Personality] Frustrated: I need to be better!
[X] [Story] Go with Qui-Gon and join the Jedi.

Ave Anathema · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
Freedom will be equal for both in the sense of you doing what you want to...Jedis just a more structured freedom if that makes sense?

so were still free if we live long enough but the jedi are structured to keep us from strangling ourselves with it untill were mature to not do that

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

Fabled Ranger said:
Thank you for addressing my concerns, and linking your change. I do appreciate it, though I have a question. Why is their more exp and chosen points for the Jedi option rather than Teras Kasi's? One player said it might be due to more prestige, but I would like to hear your opinion.

Time and energy. Mastering Teräs Kasi is simply mastering a skill. Jedi Knight requires story line decisions and actual quests. You'll be a lower level when you master Teräs Käsi if you focus it than Knight Ambition. So that's why the difference

JAGwin · Jan 22, 2018

Right then. Changing vote.

[X] [Personality] Frustrated: I need to be better!
[X] [Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa.

Fabled Ranger · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
But here are the definitive attributes of Teräs Käsi since I've beeb giving the pros of Jedi:

-Teräs Kasi mastery guaranteed
-OC's companions
-Dark Jedi Training once you've mastered Teräs Kasi
-access unfiltered to blue and red holocron
-more assassin style training
-mystic visions
-potential to take leadership of Palawa yourself
-access to old Sith histories and language
- first two years will be very "monk deprivation" but some nifty perk gains
-midichlorian manipulation training
-extend life...though that's true for Jedi eventually as well

Fellow Pawala voters you should know what this means...

Space Ra's al Ghul is a go!

Iandude0 · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
-midichlorian manipulation training

THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

LIKE, HOLY SHIT THAT'D BLOW ANY OF THE BASIC TECHNIQUES THE JEDI CAN TEACH US OUT OF THE WATER.

Also, this is what I was talking about. You toned the option to look like it was only Teras Kasi we'd be able to learn there, but stuff like this was hiding behind there.

ThirzaA · Jan 22, 2018

[Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa.

I just want us to be there if we roll for Maul to come to the farm. We can then at least influence things somewhat then find out sometime after that they all died. We have Master Zan there and afew things to bargain with if he shows up.

PeliusAnar · Jan 22, 2018

JAGwin said:
If we do that, he'll just escape when he senses danger because of the bomb.

There is Force Suppression and Force Breach to cut something's connection to the Force. There are so many techniques out there. Force Powers. We won't be able to use Drain Knowledge since that is a Dark Side technique and could have sped up learning a bunch of things. My idea after Palawa was to travel around to interesting places and pick off criminals and Dark Force users we come across for massive boosts while not having a fleet after us.

We could take our time, like 60 years to build up our skills in secret before making a Jedi related move.

Arthellion said:
Freedom will be equal for both in the sense of you doing what you want to...Jedis just a more structured freedom if that makes sense?

With the Jedi we learn Jedi skills but can pick. With the Martial Arts we could pick anything like blasters or piloting. Makes sense.

Lalzparty said:
The one problem I have with the Jedi is that they don't allow themselves have material wealth.
I propose we learn how to hack and secretly take away all the Confederacy's money/credits/loot while beating up their droids and taking over their facilities/spaceships/planets in the name of the Republic.
Edit: All for the sake of the inevitable separation of ourselves from the Jedi Order.

I gave you a funny for this, since this is the exact kind of thing the Jedi would disapprove of. They are above material wealth. So when we get stuck as a Padawan for hacking the Banking Clan's Bank, I just lolz at that. That is the kind of rebelious thing the Council would frown on. Just like canon Anakin ;p

Iandude0 · Jan 22, 2018

ThirzaA said:
[Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa.

make sure to put a [x] in front of everything if you want the vote to count.

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

Iandude0 said:
THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

LIKE, HOLY SHIT THAT'D BLOW ANY OF THE BASIC TECHNIQUES THE JEDI CAN TEACH US OUT OF THE WATER.

Also, this is what I was talking about. You toned the option to look like it was only Teras Kasi we'd be able to learn there, but stuff like this was hiding behind there.

Just gonna day y'all should consider all this information as if you had mastered shatterpoint. Further decisions won't have as much info

PeliusAnar · Jan 22, 2018

Iandude0 said:
THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

LIKE, HOLY SHIT THAT'D BLOW ANY OF THE BASIC TECHNIQUES THE JEDI CAN TEACH US OUT OF THE WATER.

Also, this is what I was talking about. You toned the option to look like it was only Teras Kasi we'd be able to learn there, but stuff like this was hiding behind there.

Now the vote will be a lot closer, since this is like the Holy Grail of Force Powers. It created this quest after all.

Iandude0 · Jan 22, 2018

Arthellion said:
Just gonna day y'all should consider all this information as if you had mastered shatterpoint. Further decisions won't have as much info

I assume this was in part because of the insane amount of conversation this vote spawned?

JAGwin · Jan 22, 2018

PeliusAnar said:
There is Force Suppression and Force Breach to cut something's connection to the Force.

If manage to hit him with one of those, then why not just stab him with a Lightsaber/Vibroblade or shoot him with a blaster? Seems more foolproof to me.

PeliusAnar said:
We won't be able to use Drain Knowledge since that is a Dark Side technique and could have sped up learning a bunch of things.

We will if we get Center of The Force. We might even be able to use it without that, depending on whether the mechanics for using opposite-aligned powers are "you can't" or "they cost more".

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

PeliusAnar said:
Now the vote will be a lot closer, since this is like the Holy Grail of Force Powers. It created this quest after all.

Not to say you wouldn't learn to manipulate then mmm if you went Jedi. Just not as much of a head start.

Both Jedi and Palawa provide similar possibilities, they just favor some over others r.

Arthellion · Jan 22, 2018

Iandude0 said:
I assume this was in part because of the insane amount of conversation this vote spawned?

Yes lol

Chronobreak · Jan 22, 2018

How could you want to join the Jedi SV? They don't allow waifus!

Icefyre · Jan 22, 2018

[X] [Personality] Frustrated: I need to be better!
[X] [Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa.

Hm alright then.

aceraptor · Jan 22, 2018

Space Multiply said:
How could you want to join the Jedi SV? They don't allow waifus!

We (or at least I) just want to loot the Jedi for every knowledge we can and then go bye bye to deal with Sidious in our own way.

ThirzaA · Jan 22, 2018

[X][Story] Leave with Master Zan and Join the Followers of Palawa.

Whoops, there fixed.

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