Would You Look At The Time! (Worm/Ben 10)

Kyber doesn't have Captain America levels of strength, the quote you are pulling from Kyber's strength compared to Vilgax is like Captain America's strength compared to Thanos. Your analysis put Vilgax as being stronger than Alexandria, which implies Kyber is probably pretty strong.
Honestly, I'm assuming that they were unaware of how nuts Thanos is, power-wise, because, uh, Thanos is literally well over a trillion times stronger then Captain America. As in, using that scaling with what we see of Vilgax, Khyber would be weaker then a sickly human.

However, the Captain America comparison does hold up better, as Khyber seems roughly comparable to Blonco, whose race is roughly comparable to humans.

And the exact quote is:
Vilgax is much, much stronger than Khyber. If Khyber is around a Captain America power level, then Vilgax would be Thanos level.
With regards to the knife's speed, we manipulate inertia to get going that fast, which might not translate to more hitting power.
With regards to Glory Girl, Taylor doesn't know any details of her power. Additionally, Glory Girl would be pissed if we just try to pull her out, and since we don't know about her forcefield's vulnerability we would be trying to move a person who can lift a bus easily. This is Worm, most capes wouldn't back off from a fight.
Kinecelerans manipulate friction, not inertia.

As for Glory Girl, sure, but she's going after Khyber as well, meaning she's just prolonging this fight. Also, the bus thing never actually happened, WoG is that people are just guessing how strong she is, including herself. She's confirmed to be able to "deadlift over a ton", but anything beyond that is speculation.

And plenty of capes back of from a fight. And yeah, she'll be pissed, but I don't exactly care about that much. Meanwhile, your plan has the issue in that Glory Girl is attacking Khyber, not working together against Kraab.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Lunaryon on Oct 9, 2019 at 1:00 PM, finished with 43 posts and 21 votes.

  • [x][Cape]Kinetic
    [X][Cape]Zero-One
    [X] Take down Crab
    - [X] According to Khyber, you're faster the Kraab. And you know that Khybers knife was capable of piercing through Kraabs armour, at least in weak areas.
    -- [X] Make it seem like you're putting Khyber between the two/like your heading towards Glory Girl(heading towards the left), then rush back around the right. As Kraabs claw is on the right side of their body, grab it.
    --- [X] Once you have the knife, aim for the joints of the limbs, try and disable them. Get that gun away from Kraab.
    ---- [X] If you can't get the knife out, try your claws. If that fails, move right onto the next step.
    ----- [X] Success or failure, grab Glory Girl and get out. Focus on containing the situation and keeping bystanders out of harms way.
    [X] Take down Crab
    -[X] Check with Khyber, to make sure he hasn't actually committed any crimes on Earth.
    -[X] If Khyber is technically innocent, then having the three of you work together is fine.
    -[X] If he has, not much you can do right now besides not being an easy target.
    -[X] With your speed, try to immobilize or distract Crab.
    -[X] If that isn't good enough, then time to test out superspeed punching.
    [X][Cape] Kinetic Five
    [X] Take down Crab
    - [X] According to Khyber, you're faster the Kraab. And you know that Khybers knife was capable of piercing through Kraabs armour, at least in weak areas.
    -- [X] Make it seem like you're putting Khyber between the two/like your heading towards Glory Girl(heading towards the left), then rush back around the right. As Kraabs claw is on the right side of their body, grab it.
    --- [X] Once you have the knife, aim for the joints of the limbs, try and disable them. Get that gun away from Kraab.
    ---- [X] If you can't get the knife out, try your claws. If that fails, move right onto the next step.
    [x] Retreat
    -[x] Run. Run fast.
    [X] Take down Crab
    -[X] Move to avoid Crab's gun
    -[X] Stay mobile, prioritize dodging Crab's attacks over getting hits in
    -[X] Try to disarm Crab and get his gun away from him.
    -[X] Attack spots that look less armored, like joints
    -[X] Try to distract Crab and create openings for Glory Girl or Kyber to attack
 
[X] Kinetic
[X] Take down Crab
-[X] Check with Khyber, to make sure he hasn't actually committed any crimes on Earth.
-[X] If Khyber is technically innocent, then having the three of you work together is fine.
-[X] If he has, not much you can do right now besides not being an easy target.
-[X] With your speed, try to immobilize or distract Crab.
-[X] If that isn't good enough, then time to test out superspeed punching.

Let's avoid Glory Girl picking a fight with Khyber.

Anyways, you have to wonder whether or not Khyber would consider the Endbringers to be "good prey".
 
So I'll be officially closing the vote in the morning and starting on the update.

You want to convince people to change votes, now would be the time.
 
I'm glad that Kinetic is winning out over Zero-one. If we give each alien a different name, people will assume they're a parahuman group (due to the shared Omnitrix symbol), but if they all have the same name, people will assume they're a powerful changer. When people see a wristwatch with that symbol on Taylor, a link to a parahuman group is much more ideal than a link to the powerful changer.
Basically, if people see Taylor wearing the symbol of a powerful changer who's able to completely change their appearance, people are going to start making assumptions, and some of them are bound to be right, but if she's wearing the symbol of a new group, those assumptions will be less correct.
 
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I'm glad that Kinetic is winning out over Zero-one. If we give each alien a different name, people will assume they're a parahuman group (due to the shared Omnitrix symbol), but if they all have the same name, people will assume they're a powerful changer. When people see a wristwatch with that symbol on Taylor, a link to a parahuman group is much more ideal than a link to the powerful changer.
Basically, if people see Taylor wearing the symbol of a powerful changer who's able to completely change their appearance, people are going to start making assumptions, and some of them are bound to be right, but if she's wearing the symbol of a new group, those assumptions will be less correct.

Indeed, this is basically my thought process behind the choice, as well.
 
Or I guess I can end up sleeping nearly the entire day away. That works too...

Whatever. I'm out of work due to the motorcycle crash for another month anyways.

Anyways, locking the vote.

Winning vote:
[x][Cape]Kinetic

[X] Take down Crab
- [X] According to Khyber, you're faster the Kraab. And you know that Khybers knife was capable of piercing through Kraabs armour, at least in weak areas.
-- [X] Make it seem like you're putting Khyber between the two/like your heading towards Glory Girl(heading towards the left), then rush back around the right. As Kraabs claw is on the right side of their body, grab it.
--- [X] Once you have the knife, aim for the joints of the limbs, try and disable them. Get that gun away from Kraab.
---- [X] If you can't get the knife out, try your claws. If that fails, move right onto the next step.
----- [X] Success or failure, grab Glory Girl and get out. Focus on containing the situation and keeping bystanders out of harms way.
 
You know, by the time Winslow starts, is Taylor going to be confident after her career as a hero? I mean, just wondering how she will respond to Sophia.
 
You know, by the time Winslow starts, is Taylor going to be confident after her career as a hero? I mean, just wondering how she will respond to Sophia.
She will probably react to bullies in the same way Ben originally did.

Badly.

And then she'll prank them with aliens.

Given that Gwen was able to capture XLR8 on video through means of mundane technology, I doubt that Taylor will get away with this for long, short of the Trio interferring to keep their heads out of the crossfire.
 
Thus deception is not gonna last long, tho, due to the Batman Clause.
... The unwritten rules forbid looking into people's personal lives, so even if someone did find out the truth (unlikely, since most people don't look too closely at people's identities, due to the rules), revealing her identity would be political suicide.

Coil revealing the Empire's capes was the exception, and even then he did it anonymously (because it's political suicide).
 
... The unwritten rules forbid looking into people's personal lives, so even if someone did find out the truth (unlikely, since most people don't look too closely at people's identities, due to the rules), revealing her identity would be political suicide.

Coil revealing the Empire's capes was the exception, and even then he did it anonymously (because it's political suicide).
I meant, more clearly, that the Omnitrix aliens are never going to appear together at the same time (thus Batman), so people will quickly move on from the theory that they are a team and go to the next likeliest, the Changer theory.
 
I meant, more clearly, that the Omnitrix aliens are never going to appear together at the same time (thus Batman), so people will quickly move on from the theory that they are a team and go to the next likeliest, the Changer theory.
... I counter with the Superman Clause: his 'Clark Kent' persona is literally just the same person with a pair of glasses, and nobody finds out. Ergo, due to the rules, nobody will look into it enough to realize that they're the same person. Besides, it's possible for two people to know each other, but never be seen publicly in the same place.

Actually he made it look like the undersiders(If im not confusing fanon) did it and they got absolute hell for it till they got Coil
Fair point; I forgot the specifics of what he did. My point stands, though; he didn't want people to know that he broke the rules.
 
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anyways I need:

5d10 for Kraab
4d25 for Kyber
5d10 for Glory
5d10 for Taylor

and 5d20 for memorization
 
I'll Do Khyber, since he's special and gets different dice.
Tygerion threw 4 25-faced dice. Reason: Khyber Total: 57
15 15 17 17 17 17 8 8
 
.. I counter with the Superman Clause: his 'Clark Kent' persona is literally just the same person with a pair of glasses, and nobody finds out. Ergo, due to the rules, nobody will look into it enough to realize that they're the same person. Besides, it's possible for two people to know each other, but never be seen publicly in the same place.
Yeah, but what about 10 people, who are supposedly a team, never being seen together, or even in different locations at the same time?

The unwritten rules do not protect us from people gathering information on our cape persona(s), including if they are working together and where and when they were seen. The PHO is full of stuff like that.
 
Yeah, but what about 10 people, who are supposedly a team, never being seen together, or even in different locations at the same time?

The unwritten rules do not protect us from people gathering information on our cape persona(s), including if they are working together and where and when they were seen. The PHO is full of stuff like that.
True, but it does forbid them from acting on it. Take the reaction to 'the undersiders' releasing the E88's personal details for example: everyone hated them.
The only reason the PRT got away with it was because they press-ganged everyone into accepting it, because they're a massive organization, and because they were targeting a known supervillain. Even then, the people they were supposedly protecting (read: put in danger) and helped said supervillain escape their trap. Glenn Chambers probably had a conniption over that fiasco, because the incident destroyed their PR.
Basically, the only time(s) we see a group (supposedly) violate the rules like that, they pay a heavy price for doing so. There's a reason that the rules are made out to be such a big deal.
 
True, but it does forbid them from acting on it. Take the reaction to 'the undersiders' releasing the E88's personal details for example: everyone hated them.
The only reason the PRT got away with it was because they press-ganged everyone into accepting it, because they're a massive organization, and because they were targeting a known supervillain. Even then, the people they were supposedly protecting (read: put in danger) and helped said supervillain escape their trap. Glenn Chambers probably had a conniption over that fiasco, because the incident destroyed their PR.
Basically, the only time(s) we see a group (supposedly) violate the rules like that, they pay a heavy price for doing so. There's a reason that the rules are made out to be such a big deal.
I think we are talking about different things here. I am not talking about anyone revealing Taylor's civilian identity. I am talking of attempting to pretend that we are 10 different heroes.

On the subject of Taylor's identity being revealed, I don't think we xan afford to worry about this. Aliens won't care about the unwritten rules, and we can't remove the watch.
 
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