I'm not doing it so Dorne will like Robb more, I'm proposing it because I like the mental image of him being carted down like a footless turkey. I don't really give two shits about the politics or whatever in this, I'm just reading 'cause it's a Charcolt thing.
Devan is already assembling a 15-20k army. Casterly Rock has the funds for it. Plus the Lannisport guard is incredibly competent professional force. Casterly Rock is also a fucking nightmare to take and siege would leave us too open. Don't get cocky. I will
Mmmm, never thought of it like that.
I don´t doubt they have the funds, but assemble another army after their main force has been crushed would take weeks, and that is being optimistic.
And how long do you think it gonna take us to move from Riverrun to Casterly Rock with a huge army behind us? Long. Specially since we have to siege and take the Golden Tooth among other keeps in the way.
Tywin's the biggest card in our hand, but we can't let him go. We've humiliated his entire male line and Grey Wind mutilated his golden boy. If he gets free he will not stop until he's razed the whole of the North and salted the ground to repay this insult. Diplomacy isn't going to win this at this point. Maybe, maybe when this is all over we can send Tywin to the Wall but I wouldn't put money on it.
No we don't. That's stupid. Like. Really? Kill our most valuable hostage for a revenge boner that won't solve anything?
It's a response thing, if they kill Ned Stark and we don't kill someone of equal importance, it's a sign that we'll continue to let the lannisters do what they want despite our hostages. Now, killing Tywin may not seem worth it, it's the only way we can strike back at them and not seem weak. the situation sucks because we know Joffrey's a cocky little shit that will kill Ned, so we gotta do something to be taken seriously, and Jaime and Tyrion are not even near the worth of Tywin in the eyes of most. I mean, we know Jaimes worth the most to Cersei, but Robb doesn't know that.
That's what hostages are for though. If they kill Ned, we are almost obliged to kill Tywin in turn. If only to tell the Lannisters that we are serious and that further executions will be met in kind.
Yeah, that's why they killed Jaime in canon. Not like they have hostages in place or something besides Ned.
If we don't, the Northern lords will turn on us for being weak. Ned is the Lannister's most valuable hostage. If we don't kill Tuwin in response, Roose Bolton and other Northern lords will start plotting ate downfall.
They can't do anything to Sansa or Arya because we still have Jamie and Tyrion. Jamie didn't die in canon because he was the Starks only hostage of note and killing him would make it impossible to even try and secure Sansa and Area's safety.
Tyrion is worthless as a hostage for Cersei, frankly she would rather have him dead. Jaime is the one with any worth, which means she can kill either Sansa or Arya, if she finds the latter. But sure, execute him and bet on Cersei/Joffrey not having a revenge boner. Then you can kill Jaime, and wait until they kill the remaining sister.
If we don't there's no guarantee they will not execute them seeing as we would have then proven that we are not willing to execute hostages.
We don't know IC that Cersei would be happy with us killing Tyrion.
And what about Kevans two sons? Remember in this timeline he's retreated to Kings Landing with what remains of Tywins army, he became hand of the king in cannon and was shown as being competent enough for Varys to murder him directly. I don't think he would take his children or Tyrions lives being tossed aside very lightly
Another thing we know OOC is that the only hostage they have is Sansa.
Yeah, because Cersei and Joffrey will care a lot about them.
Ooh she would. She didn't lose her father and didn't have Tyrion to control her worst tendencies from the beginning. She wouldn't on purpose, but Cersei execution of stuff leaves a lot to be desired. Oh yeah, there's also the fact that Jaime was permanently maimed. Wonder what kind of things she can do to Sansa without killing her? Hmmm.
