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Oh my fucking shit I can't even.

Hey.
Hey, remember when people got so irritated at this shit that they posted the town and maf's factions in the OP?
You think there might be a fucking reason behind it?

I utterly agree.

[X]TPK

Voting to lynch him because he's attacking Nani for not wanting to divulge too close a role claim info.
Unless I am mistaken, but TPK is being sorta aggressive like last game of mafia and we have nothing much to go on so meh.
 
I utterly agree.

[X]TPK

Voting to lynch him because he's attacking Nani for not wanting to divulge too close a role claim info.
Unless I am mistaken, but TPK is being sorta aggressive like last game of mafia and we have nothing much to go on so meh.
Watch your vote format.

Right now, that's a TPK proxy.
 
I made stance on relying on PM fluff at all pretty clear in my game, so why would my view be different in this game?

This will bring TPK up to 5 now so tread carefully about voting him now.

Also @TPK if you really think that the song helps find information focus in on @atk50 because he doesn't seem to know what you are talking about.

Having proof that somebody doesn't know what you are talking about seems more useful than somebody not answering a question that many of us don't agree with. Of course you would have to make a good argument to get me to vote for someone on that basis.

I'd vote to lynch but once Rikimaru fixes his vote TPK will be at 6.

 
Note: The number discrepancy is due to editing the post midway as more votes flooded in.
 
I'm not especially mad as Nani is, but I can understand it being enraging, and there is literally no reason to suspect her.

The cold war is heating up.

Though maybe scum factions are at each others throats again?

oh yeah I meant to red the lynch and I messed it up.

[X]Lynch TPK
 
I dunno guys. Let's cool our heads for a bit.

Idk but to me TPKs actions/attitude kinda rings alarms for a potential Jester play.

Whats the chance that he's a maf that fucked up this early already? Probably slim.

Jester play? Possible imo.

Dumb Town play? Possible too, but less so than Jester imo. TPK i dunno, seems a bit too competent to alienate others like this, this early, if he was town.
 
I can admit I dislike this tool but here is the thing its available and it currently appears we actually hooked someone with it. Now it would be simple enough for Nanimani to just respond correctly and I would cease to think Nani was scum.

This is a one use tool that only works before a townie dies, and I can't agree with this policy vote when I honestly believe TPK is town.

It still is shitty and will get people modkilled. First day isn't for pinpointing scum, it's for analysis of posts to see habits and such. Lynches are typically either policy, fuckups, or randos. This is a firm policy lynch for me.

Everyday is for pinpointing scum. Its wonderful and glorious when you actually hit scum day 1 and not unexpected to get a townie lynched however knowingly trying to get a townie to die off a policy lynch is disgusting to me, you may disagree with the manner, but it feels exactly like a town play.

Perhaps it's not straight paranoia, but I don't think it's good for the spirit of the game. Reason enough to return to the old vote.

Spirit of the game is all well in good, but trying to get a townie killed for it is quite foolish.

Tpk is being pushy I don't like it.

[X] null vote
[X]lynch TPK

... That reasoning is so suspicious welcome to my list.

I utterly agree.

[X]TPK

Voting to lynch him because he's attacking Nani for not wanting to divulge too close a role claim info.
Unless I am mistaken, but TPK is being sorta aggressive like last game of mafia and we have nothing much to go on so meh.

Only info he is asking for is town's team name nothing else.

@TPK, have a policy vote. My only policy (Lynch verifiable randomness) has been extended to Lynch Meta Verification.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch TPK

Do you think what TPK is doing is a scum play though?

I'm not especially mad as Nani is, but I can understand it being enraging, and there is literally no reason to suspect her.

The cold war is heating up.

Though maybe scum factions are at each others throats again?

oh yeah I meant to red the lynch and I messed it up.

[X]Lynch TPK

Likely only 1 scum faction this game 2 scum groups in only a 15 player game would be very agro. TPK's statements are reasoning on why to suspect them... they don't seem to know town's name.



Now all of you think about it this way what do we get out of a TPK vote currently? You make an example of someone you don't like the actions of but you don't progress with the accumulation of information and discovery. Nani's lynch on the other hand reveals quite a bit now, if they show up town (which I currently find unlikely) well it will push blame onto myself and TPK immensely. If Nani shows up as non-town it reveals that scum and neutrals don't know town's name as well as grants quite a bit of insight into players such as Shadow Shinobi and others.
 
I dunno guys. Let's cool our heads for a bit.

Idk but to me TPKs actions/attitude kinda rings alarms for a potential Jester play.

Whats the chance that he's a maf that fucked up this early already? Probably slim.

Jester play? Possible imo.

Dumb Town play? Possible too, but less so than Jester imo. TPK i dunno, seems a bit too competent to alienate others like this, this early, if he was town.

... If he was making a jester play he'd role-claim some sort of role day one and go for that policy lynch this policy lynch is extremely foolhardy.
 
[X]Null

we need to lynch on last hour not early.

More info needed to learn/guess
 
Either way, we got time before time limit. Let's try and milk it some more instead of ending it so soon already.
 
TPK could be Executioner of some sort of course.

Yes cause you give your target a simple enough response to make that gets them our of your lynch vote when they are already the one on the chopping block without any of your own prying. Strong exe-play.

I can't see TPK's play so far as scum play, I don't understand where you all think this policy lynch is on anything other than a townie. And I absolutely hate the fact that I'm defending/somewhat answering for another player... I consider that in of itself a scum-tell but that is how strongly I'm already against a TPK lynch.
 
Yes cause you give your target a simple enough response to make that gets them our of your lynch vote when they are already the one on the chopping block without any of your own prying. Strong exe-play.

I can't see TPK's play so far as scum play, I don't understand where you all think this policy lynch is on anything other than a townie. And I absolutely hate the fact that I'm defending/somewhat answering for another player... I consider that in of itself a scum-tell but that is how strongly I'm already against a TPK lynch.

Oh snap. Yeah I need to clear my ToS mindset. The amount of exe's who instantly go for their target is shocking.

We got more of your reasoning so that's good.
 
Bigger response later, but I did not jump on Nani and declare them immediately scum, even after they refused to -basically- do something as simple as reveal Town's IC name. I said that it made them more suspicious than anyone else is at this point, because it's D1 and we don't have anything else to work with beyond random guessing.

And if you look, the difference between making a kill based on fluff claims and declaring someone is suspicious because (in effect) they can't tell you Town's name is apparent. Scum might have been given Town's name, but we all know that TOWN knows Town's name for sure. Logically, the only people who can't reveal Town's name are Scum, if they were not told about Town in their role PMs.

Again, I am not basing my suspicion on fluff, but on the simple fact that Town MUST know Town's name. If Nani cannot give evidence that he knows that name, then he cannot logically be Town.
 
Bigger response later, but I did not jump on Nani and declare them immediately scum, even after they refused to -basically- do something as simple as reveal Town's IC name. I said that it made them more suspicious than anyone else is at this point, because it's D1 and we don't have anything else to work with beyond random guessing.

And if you look, the difference between making a kill based on fluff claims and declaring someone is suspicious because (in effect) they can't tell you Town's name is apparent. Scum might have been given Town's name, but we all know that TOWN knows Town's name for sure. Logically, the only people who can't reveal Town's name are Scum, if they were not told about Town in their role PMs.

Again, I am not basing my suspicion on fluff, but on the simple fact that Town MUST know Town's name. If Nani cannot give evidence that he knows that name, then he cannot logically be Town.

Sorry, I must have misread the scuffle, I didn't realize you were only wanting to know what Town was called.
I won't give scum a bone, so not gonna say what fluff Town is.
 
Yeahhhhhh this right here is harkening back to the era of digging up people's direct PM info in every way possible without outright quoting it.

Perhaps it's not straight paranoia, but I don't think it's good for the spirit of the game. Reason enough to return to the old vote.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch TPK
I miss those days. They were better than the current day 1 role claims or total lack of info bullshit.

My only policy (Lynch verifiable randomness) has been extended to Lynch Meta Verification.
I disagree with this policy. I really disagree with this policy.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch AlphaDelta

I would vote for TPK, but they're at 6 and I really disagree with this policy.
 
I miss those days. They were better than the current day 1 role claims or total lack of info bullshit.


I disagree with this policy. I really disagree with this policy.

[X] Null
[X] Lynch AlphaDelta

I would vote for TPK, but they're at 6 and I really disagree with this policy.

Thoughts on the whole Nanimani situation though?
 
Day 1 Vote Log:
Nanimani: Lynch atk50 (1)
Phoenixian: Lynch TPK (1)
ComiTurtle: Lynch Nanimani (1)
Atk50: Lynch Nanimani (2)
Lelouch: Lynch Rikimaru (1)
TPK: Lynch atk50 (2)
Rikimaru: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (1)
Winged Cat: Lynch Nanimani (3)

Phoenixian: Null TPK (0)
Phoenixian: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (2)
Rikimaru: Null Shadow Shinobi (1)
Rikimaru: Lynch JoeBobJoe
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch Rikimaru (2)

Rikimaru: Null JoeBobJoe (0)
Nanimani: Null atk50 (1)

Nanimani: Lynch Rikimaru (3)
Rikimaru: Lynch Megaolix (1)
Bahn: Lynch Rikimaru (4)

Bahn: Null Rikimaru (3)
Bahn: Lynch Nanimani (4)
LDJ: Lynch JoeBobJoe (1)
AlphaDelta: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (3)

TPK: Null atk50 (0)
TPK: Lynch Nanimani (5)
Shadow Shinobi: Null Rikimaru (2)
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch Nanimani (6)
Bahn: Null Nanimani (5)
Nanimani: Null Rikimaru (2)

Nanimani: Lynch TPK (1)
TMR: Lynch TPK (2)

Phoenixian: Null Shadow Shinobi (2)
Phoenixian: Lynch TPK (3)
Shadow Shinobi: Null Nanimani (5)
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch TPK (4)
Rikimaru: Null Megaolix (0)
RIkimaru: Lynch TPK (5)
AlphaDelta: Null Shadow Shinobi (1)
AlphaDelta: Lynch TPK (6)
Rikimaru: Null TPK (5)
LDJ: Null JoeBobJoe (0)

LDJ: Lynch AlphaDelta (1)
 
Thoughts on the whole Nanimani situation though?
*shrugs* Eh, Nani's Nani, and he's perfectly justified in being pissed when TPK goes for the interrogation method he (TPK) has bitched about in the past and built his own game to prevent. Not really sus at the mo, though I have noted the refusal to answer for further reference.
 
*shrugs* Eh, Nani's Nani, and he's perfectly justified in being pissed when TPK goes for the interrogation method he (TPK) has bitched about in the past and built his own game to prevent. Not really sus at the mo, though I have noted the refusal to answer for further reference.
Perhaps you missed my post. I've already clarified why I hold what I'm doing now and what I disliked then differently.

I am not saying "How many words are in your team declaration", or "What is your win condition". Those kinds of question I disagree with, and might policy vote on. I am saying, in essence, that Town loses nothing by letting someone under pressure reveal its name in order to alleviate some of that pressure on D1.
 
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