Warhammer Fantasy: Honor is all, Chivalry is all (Bretonnia CK2)
- Thread starter Voikirium
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Pray really, really hard? It worked for Thorfin.
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Voikirium
SV's Estalia Guy
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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Aw, that scene with Philip and his dad was touching
Just like the greenskins axe was touching his organs, right?
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More seriously though, there's not much point to playing Bretonnia and declaring "Industrial era or bust!" It's like playing a humble elf, charitable Tilean, or forgiving dwarf.
Too soon.
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Khepri14
Thus kindly I scatter...
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Well, huh. A dyslexic protagonist. Well that's not as bad as it could be. Plus, we can always take Personal Actions to try to learn more(Of course the DC would probably be in the 90s at first...) and fix the problem. And we might want to take a Personal Action to raise our Intrigue at least once or twice. At least our Diplomacy makes it so we can't really insult someone by accident which really saves us.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
This is one of the best intros to one of these CK2 characters I've seen. I really like this guy.
Philip is smart as a tack, he just doesn't know it.
He's good at math, he a good general which involves all sorts of complicated logistics and shit, and, judging by his piety score, he's probably memorized scripture without knowing how to read. That's pretty darn impressive, scripture can be hard to follow if you can actually, if you can understand that and comprehend and remember it and spit it back at people when only hearing in second hand? Your gifted.
Now, obviously, I'm assuming quite a bit on that Piety part, but I don't imagine I'm too far off.
Besides, it should be obvious that the learning stat isn't the same as intelligence. I mean, being a genius is only a +5 to everything, we could be a literal genius and only have a 6 in learning, which is, you know, let's just say it's below average. It's not good, it's pretty bad. We'd still think we were slow. Presumably it would mean that we have some sort of difficulty with formal education, either the dyslexia like here or even something more simple like just not being able to get into class so we don't put in the work so we think we are dumb, but it's just how this game and, hell, life works. You could be a literal genius and still have yourself and everyone around you thinking your about as bright as a light bulb that got pulled outta the socket and buried underground.
Besides, if we were as much of a fool as our learning stat seemed we'd have either the slow trait or the imbecile stat and then, we'll, we'd have negative learning. So, at minimum, we know we are at least average.
Dunce?
Philip is smart as a tack, he just doesn't know it.
He's good at math, he a good general which involves all sorts of complicated logistics and shit, and, judging by his piety score, he's probably memorized scripture without knowing how to read. That's pretty darn impressive, scripture can be hard to follow if you can actually, if you can understand that and comprehend and remember it and spit it back at people when only hearing in second hand? Your gifted.
Now, obviously, I'm assuming quite a bit on that Piety part, but I don't imagine I'm too far off.
Besides, it should be obvious that the learning stat isn't the same as intelligence. I mean, being a genius is only a +5 to everything, we could be a literal genius and only have a 6 in learning, which is, you know, let's just say it's below average. It's not good, it's pretty bad. We'd still think we were slow. Presumably it would mean that we have some sort of difficulty with formal education, either the dyslexia like here or even something more simple like just not being able to get into class so we don't put in the work so we think we are dumb, but it's just how this game and, hell, life works. You could be a literal genius and still have yourself and everyone around you thinking your about as bright as a light bulb that got pulled outta the socket and buried underground.
Besides, if we were as much of a fool as our learning stat seemed we'd have either the slow trait or the imbecile stat and then, we'll, we'd have negative learning. So, at minimum, we know we are at least average.
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Voikirium
SV's Estalia Guy
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Imagine the most gifted speaker you can think of. Imagine a voice that could convince gods, a tale that breaks the hearts of all men, holy words that burn in your brain and don't make you feel lesser because the Lady doesn't ask that you be clever, or know how to read with smooth precision, but only that you only be honorable, and chivalrous, and willing to fight when you must fight, all of which come fairly easy to you.
That is why Philip remembers the sermons so easily. Part of it is just that he's smarter than he or his sister would give him credit for, but the Lady is a very good goddess to serve for anyone but especially for someone like him.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
I'm pretty sure only Leonceur is said to bleed light, it being the source of his Regeneration rule on TT.
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I'm actually happy about that outcome. With high learning or intrigue some people (including me) would have been very tempted to ignore the chivalry part of the quest for more efficient options. But the Lady has blessed us by delivering us from temptation.
Besides it's always funnier to play with one dumpstat.
Besides it's always funnier to play with one dumpstat.
I wonder how the learning option will work. Some adviser deals with that kind of stuff?
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Why not? If we had low martial we'd send our general to fight for us, the low intrigue guys give their spymaster instructions and low piety throws money at priests. Same should work here.
True. But Bretonnia pretty much lives in Medieval Stasis. So finding more technologically affiliated people would be difficult. Our R&D guy/girl might be a foreigner since Bretonnia has a massive lack of education (and thinking outside of the box) compared to the Empire.
You are assuming we will have one. With those stats learning might be locked altogether because the PC does not see the point of those horrible jumped up peasants called engineers.
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I don't really expect an engineer or anything advanced but there is always someone who thinks he can improve agriculture, or who has seen that in other cities with public bathes sickness is rarer or even just that tax collectors work better if they learn their numbers from a teacher and not just that other collector who can do some math.
We most likely wont get any great improvements, especially compared to other quests but some learning actions are reasonable. Someone always has ideas and between our diplomacy and stewardship we will propably at least listen to them.
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We'll give the hardworking peasant a few pigs
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Also, I'm pretty sure Learning is good for more than just tech.
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This can be the exception.
Hell, we're Fantasy!France. We could have Learning and have cool things like attracting troubadours or hiring someone to write down all the songs and poems our bards make, or stuff like that! Plus, yeah, I think Learning could be interesting if it was used as a category/stat that helped unlock options in other areas. Like, you use Learning to figure out things about the economy/money/building stuff, and then apply it in other categories.