jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
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this sounds like the phoenix flame choice from Ulthran quest where how well the choice fit what the person wanted determined the D.C. of the dice and if they didn't make the right choice they would have bad ended in the second post.
I am convinced, I disliked Air because we are actively defining what an Orc is by changing the customs we don't like, so to hide behind the word as a shield wasn't that appealing. I was debating between water and earth, healing and purity, but there is anger there too the blood rage and hatred of all demons.
[X] I am the blood of the Blackrock. Through fire and forges we took our place in the world. (Fire)
I'm a little uncertain about the choice given we are on the path to removing the clans and this vote could outline what we consider most important which doesn't really fit almost went for water but the reasoning does make sense.
I am convinced, I disliked Air because we are actively defining what an Orc is by changing the customs we don't like, so to hide behind the word as a shield wasn't that appealing. I was debating between water and earth, healing and purity, but there is anger there too the blood rage and hatred of all demons.
[X] I am the blood of the Blackrock. Through fire and forges we took our place in the world. (Fire)
I'm a little uncertain about the choice given we are on the path to removing the clans and this vote could outline what we consider most important which doesn't really fit almost went for water but the reasoning does make sense.
[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
Edit: why are people voting Blackrock anyway? we turned away from that in disgust from what the Horde did and embraced being Mag'har fully, seems kind of Ooc to suddenly start embracing that especially now that we've relabeled the old horde as the Shame.
Edit: why are people voting Blackrock anyway? we turned away from that in disgust from what the Horde did and embraced being Mag'har fully, seems kind of Ooc to suddenly start embracing that especially now that we've relabeled the old horde as the Shame.
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[X] I am the blood of the Blackrock. Through fire and forges we took our place in the world. (Fire)
Massgamer
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What's the current vote count?
And why are people suddenly going fire?
We are going to be living in the past going that route while water makes us look toward the future.
GM said this is a very important decision we have to look toward the long term and water does that best.
And why are people suddenly going fire?
We are going to be living in the past going that route while water makes us look toward the future.
GM said this is a very important decision we have to look toward the long term and water does that best.
The Stormbringer
Worm Fanfic & Crack Connoisseur
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[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
Really hoping for Water. It just feels thematically more fitting to Dranosh. The only other thing I would say would work well is Earth. He isn't loose and free like the Wind, he is grounded and has roots with his people. He isn't ferocious and fiery, he is calm and decisive. He seeks to bring peace and unity, and stand as a bulwark and bastion.
Really hoping for Water. It just feels thematically more fitting to Dranosh. The only other thing I would say would work well is Earth. He isn't loose and free like the Wind, he is grounded and has roots with his people. He isn't ferocious and fiery, he is calm and decisive. He seeks to bring peace and unity, and stand as a bulwark and bastion.
Derek58
Rocket Punch is Best Punch
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Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[] I am the free, that of the Mag'har. Pure, and purified, of the taint of fel things. (Earth)
No. of votes: 11
Nix's Warden, Sinsystems, Lost Star, Alectai, Heretek, yrsillar, notanautomaton, Zoxabels, Kairae, Guilliman, Carrnage
[] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
No. of votes: 28
DragonParadox, Outoftheinferno, Iandude0, thehermit242, Massgamer, Derek58, Alex pears, Karion, Void Stalker, HanEmpire, Razor One, MagusBlack, veekie, tarrangar, Timaeus, Droman, tenchifew, Archanist, Tylonius, Beyogi, Whumbly, TheHappyVampire, Frankite316, Cjdavis103, ebolasos, rippleuser344, Vilegrave, The Stormbringer
[] I am orc. Scion of Nagrand, Land of the Wind. I am no more. I am no less. For that is enough. (Air)
No. of votes: 19
Ashynarr, Nervos Belli, Astaroh-M, Ando Owen, afterthought53, Romv, FullNothingness, Dark Ness, Somebodynobody10, Crowhunter, Andrew5073, CreepyShutIn, Stormgear, Khepri14, Darkcrest, Thanatos757, SneakyWalrus, Nox, Shard
[] I am the blood of the Blackrock. Through fire and forges we took our place in the world. (Fire)
No. of votes: 12
Reklaw, Qeqre, Krowe, EricShin, Loktarogar, Skybreaker, Garlak, Karugus, al103, jwolfe_beta, kitsune9, The Grim Squeaker
##### 3.21
[] I am the free, that of the Mag'har. Pure, and purified, of the taint of fel things. (Earth)
No. of votes: 11
Nix's Warden, Sinsystems, Lost Star, Alectai, Heretek, yrsillar, notanautomaton, Zoxabels, Kairae, Guilliman, Carrnage
[] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
No. of votes: 28
DragonParadox, Outoftheinferno, Iandude0, thehermit242, Massgamer, Derek58, Alex pears, Karion, Void Stalker, HanEmpire, Razor One, MagusBlack, veekie, tarrangar, Timaeus, Droman, tenchifew, Archanist, Tylonius, Beyogi, Whumbly, TheHappyVampire, Frankite316, Cjdavis103, ebolasos, rippleuser344, Vilegrave, The Stormbringer
[] I am orc. Scion of Nagrand, Land of the Wind. I am no more. I am no less. For that is enough. (Air)
No. of votes: 19
Ashynarr, Nervos Belli, Astaroh-M, Ando Owen, afterthought53, Romv, FullNothingness, Dark Ness, Somebodynobody10, Crowhunter, Andrew5073, CreepyShutIn, Stormgear, Khepri14, Darkcrest, Thanatos757, SneakyWalrus, Nox, Shard
[] I am the blood of the Blackrock. Through fire and forges we took our place in the world. (Fire)
No. of votes: 12
Reklaw, Qeqre, Krowe, EricShin, Loktarogar, Skybreaker, Garlak, Karugus, al103, jwolfe_beta, kitsune9, The Grim Squeaker
Water still has a decent lead.
FullNothingness
Mostly DHMO.
I'm getting a bit suspicious of torroar's behaviour here... I think this vote might be more about the arguments than the vote count.
I voted for it because fire symbolizes that disgust most strongly.
Air claims detachment from everything, Earth claims us free from those sins and untainted and Water seeks to repair the damage and be forgiven rather than burn with righteous fury at those atrocities ever having happened.
We were disgusted yes. But we did not avert our eyes.
We did not turn away. We acknowledged the shame. Our Shame for they were our kin. Are related to us.
Hence, we are fire. It was Wrong and we'll not make light of that nor pretend that it wasn't our clansmen who committed those atrocities.
Does it hurt? Absolutely. We forged this hatred into purpose however, and with our passion, it spread to the rest of our people.
Fire =/= Horde. Though Wind does have a strong connection to the New Horde.
That's an opinion Mass. Not a fact.
Massgamer
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I know and I can be fully wrong but I can still state my opinion.
Sorry if I sounded rude if it came across that way.
Personally think that repairing the damage done is more important and will have better long term affects.
We can still destroy out enemies but we also can't let our hate for them overcome the fact that there are still injuries we must heal first.
That would make sense.
The Stormbringer
Worm Fanfic & Crack Connoisseur
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It also strikes me as the more violent path. What happens when Thrall's Horde comes around? Will we be so righteous and angry that we don't give them a chance? Will we strike them as soon as we hear the mere mention of the name?
Or, as the unifier and chooser of the path of water, will we instead open ourselves to the possibilities that they have changed, speak with them guardedly and test them to be sure they are no threat? Repairing the damage could also mean better relations with the Draenei and the Alliance as well.
[X] I am the free, that of the Mag'har. Pure, and purified, of the taint of fel things. (Earth)
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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[X] I am orc. Scion of Nagrand, Land of the Wind. I am no more. I am no less. For that is enough. (Air)
Flat. Simple. To the point. All we want. All we need. We have no reason for more. No reason for less. Be.
Flat. Simple. To the point. All we want. All we need. We have no reason for more. No reason for less. Be.
We literally went into a bloodrage on turn 1, have 2 traits that give us stat boosts out of sheer rage and gave our entire faction a hatred of demons through passionate speeches.
Also:
...Yea. We're not calm, we're hot-blooded.
Maybe.
But does Dranosh think that?
The fire that forges rather than the fire that scorches.
We will never truck with demons, never forgive the shame, even if we have to burn at a lower pitch for a while we will still seek to end the Horde. To End the Legion.
It is.
This is fearmongering however.
We are not the only leader of the Mag'har(being more akin to the first amongst equals if even that). If our Rage causes us to act irrationally? I trust Garrosh/Jorin/Kaz to smack some sense into us(or Greatmother Geyah if she's still alive by then).
Where in water do you see "Speak with them Guardedly"?
Do we open ourselves to the possibility that the Forsaken's Dreadlord is really a nice guy? That the Burning Legion can be redeemed? That the Bonechewers aren't cannibalistic monsters?
The Laughing Skulls have shown that we are already open to the possibility of people changing. Should we accept their continued use of Warlocks? Their proclaiming the Monsters of the Shame to be Heroes? No.
Like fire, we will burn away such misconceptions. Let them hear our passion and know that we speak truth.
Let these "heroes" of the New Horde respond to that.
If they acknowledge it? We trigger a reform in the Horde to be more akin to ourselves.
If they remain unapologetic however? We will know that they have not changed(and should not be accepted).
Water seeks forgiveness. The approval of others.
Fire seeks the acknowledgement that what the Horde did was Wrong.
In this, Water means better relations with the New Horde. The "We're totally good guys now and should be forgiven" New Horde.
Fire means better relations with the Draenei and Alliance. The "Those guys were horrible monsters that murdered us for no good reason." Alliance and Draenei.
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Chaosbrain
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[X] I am unifier, the brother who seeks forgiveness and to heal the pains caused by my kind. (Water)
Massgamer
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We don't seek approval we simply seek to make right the wrongs the Horde brought like Garrosh chose to do and the doesn't mean we have to be friendly with the New Horde at all.
Also water makes it so we live for more than just destroying our enemies but work for the peace our people and allies deserve.
Fire is the way of the warrior seeking to destroy his enemies while water is the way of leader that works for the future his people deserve while making things right with his desires coming second.
And Fire means we seek to ensure that such a thing never happens again. That those wronged are given justice rather than for those who have suffered to forgive us.
Also, Fire doesn't mean we can't be friendly with the New Horde either. Just that we won't tolerate them doing evil shit.
Fire makes it so that we live for Honour.
Not just "destroying our enemies" it seeks to uphold our morals rather than undoing the damage of others.
We will still try to undo the damage. But we will try it because it is the right thing to do.
No. No it isn't.
Fire is Justice to Water's Healing.
It is the Paladin to Water's Priest.
Fire is for Principles first. 'This is Wrong, we will not stand for it'
Water is for people first. 'These people have suffered, we should help them'
In the latter's case, fire would also help those harmed through the actions of the Horde out of duty.
Neither is selfish. And I most strenuously disagree with your opinion of such.
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