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Warcraft: The Rise of the Mag'har

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overmind said:
...This has got to be the first time in a fantasy setting where Elves are not the first race, or the most powerful one.
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Yeah the trolls were on the planet first and were the most powerful race with a world spanning empire before the Titans showed up. They are one of the few native races on Azeroth that were not created by other worldly beings while still being badasses.
 
So, what do you guys think of the alliance in Draenor? Personally, I would rather that they come to us instead of us coming to them. We have already shown ourselves, so now we must let their own curiosity do the rest.
 
overmind said:
So, what do you guys think of the alliance in Draenor? Personally, I would rather that they come to us instead of us coming to them. We have already shown ourselves, so now we must let their own curiosity do the rest.
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The sooner we get in regular contact with them, the sooner we can get magical instruction from their High Elves, and coordinate operations against the Fel Orcs. I don't expect it to happen soon, but I'd like to get started on it right away.
 
The trolls also shattered the Old God's Bug Servant Kingdom all by themselves reducing them to 3 smaller bug clans of Azol'Nerub, Ahn'Qiraji, and Mantid.

Whereas the combined armies of the Elves and Dragons could barely seal away the armies of Ahn'Qiraji alone.
 
overmind said:
So, what do you guys think of the alliance in Draenor? Personally, I would rather that they come to us instead of us coming to them. We have already shown ourselves, so now we must let their own curiosity do the rest.
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Meeting with the more friendly members first before the less than friendly members can so they can't show us in a bad light is not good. I mean who are the rest of the alliance going to believe?

Besides having more friends agianst the Legion is alwys good and they can provide better technology and magical knowledge to help us.
 
For the Alliance. I think we definitely need to take things slow. For one, getting Ku're up and running should be a priority, not only to help our relationship with the Draenei but also so we can start throwing Naaru at the Alliance.

We should also see if we can try and meet Turalyon since he actually seems willing to compromise and avoid Alleria like the god damned plague.

Edit: But, we also shouldn't neglect other things just to get the Alliance. Like getting the Ogre Diplomacy thing settled so we don't have someone able to take on Gronn coming after us.
 
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Massgamer said:
Meeting with the more friendly members first before the less than friendly members can so they can't show us in a bad light is not good. I mean who are the rest of the alliance going to believe?
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Doing that is just common sense though, when Alleria's too full of hate to do anything but kill any Orc she sees.
 
Derek58 said:
Doing that is just common sense though, when Alleria's too full of hate to do anything but kill any Orc she sees.
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Yes, but Alleria is at the moment fighting the Fel Orcs, while the Paladin guy is looking for us. I think we can afford to let them come to us for the time being while we focus more in our relations with the Kurenai and the Draenei.
 
overmind said:
Yes, but Alleria is at the moment fighting the Fel Orcs, while the Paladin guy is looking for us. I think we can afford to let them come to us for the time being while we focus more in our relations with the Kurenai and the Draenei.
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If the Paladin can't find us he will go somewhere else and Alleria might go anywhere as long as she can fight Orcs Fel or not. We want to meet the Paladin first so that we at least have a chance of talking we wouldn't have with Alleria.

Our relatioship with the Draenei is going great so far those we need to talk to is the Alliance and the Warmaul Ogres.
 
Massgamer said:
If the Paladin can't find us he will go somewhere else and Alleria might go anywhere as long as she can fight Orcs Fel or not. We want to meet the Paladin first so that we at least have a chance of talking we wouldn't have with Alleria.

Our relatioship with the Draenei is going great so far those we need to talk to is the Alliance and the Warmaul Ogres.
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I can agree with the Warmaul Ogres. But I still think that we should wait for the Alliance relations. We must give them more time and not push the issue at the moment.
 
overmind said:
I can agree with the Warmaul Ogres. But I still think that we should wait for the Alliance relations. We must give them more time and not push the issue at the moment.
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We're not pushing it we are meeting with the Paladin that wants to meet us if him looking for us is any proof compared to Alleria who wantes to meet all Orcs so she can kill them. It's not like they are trying to ignore us and we are constantly trying to bug them.

When the leader of the Draenei (as a whole and the city) wanted to meet us we didn't wait for him to come to us we went to him.
 
Massgamer said:
We're not pushing it we are meeting with the Paladin that wants to meet us if him looking for us is any proof compared to Alleria who wantes to meet all Orcs so she can kill them. It's not like they are trying to ignore us and we are constantly trying to bug them.

When the leader of the Draenei (as a whole and the city) wanted to meet us we didn't wait for him to come to us we went to him.
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Velen sent a message that he wanted to meet us, this Paladin doesn't even know where we are.

I want something different than us going to the other factions, this time I want one of them to come to us.
 
overmind said:
Velen sent a message that he wanted to meet us, this Paladin doesn't even know where we are.

I want something different than us going to the other factions, this time I want one of them to come to us.
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What's the difference if the result is the same?

If we don't talk to them soon can we at least have the Laughing Skulls tail them so they learn from them?

Also if we don't talk to the Alliance let's talk to the Sporelings since we are destroying the Demon Portal in their home which will get us brownie points, they are very friendly to anyone that dosen't attack them, and they have farming knowledge that can be very useful for our population and that of our allies.
 
Massgamer said:
What's the difference if the result is the same?

If we don't talk to them soon can we at least have the Laughing Skulls tail them so they learn from them?

Also if we don't talk to the Alliance let's talk to the Sporelings since we are destroying the Demon Portal in their home which will get us brownie points, they are very friendly to anyone that dosen't attack them, and they have farming knowledge that can be very useful for our population and that of our allies.
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...Sporelings?o_O

What the heck are those?
 
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Sinsystems said:
They make very good mushroom based foods.
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Massgamer said:
They are awesome farmers and are very grateful to people who protect them agianst the larger mushroom monsters of the Marsh.
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...Well I do like mushrooms, and some variety in our diet is always good.

Very well, but we annex their territory and make them a vassal state. That way we can protect them and increase the land where we can hunt dangerous animals and creatures for our new generation.

By the way, think that the dragons might be the coming of the Dragonmaw Clan?
 
overmind said:
...Well I do like mushrooms, and some variety in our diet is always good.

Very well, but we annex their territory and make them a vassal state. That way we can protect them and increase the land where we can hunt dangerous animals and creatures for our new generation.

By the way, think that the dragons might be the coming of the Dragonmaw Clan?
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Sporelings will likely be okay and even welcome becoming a vassal state as long as we treat them well since they only have one real originized town (with a scattered amount of smaller villages), don't like fighting due to their small size and mindset, and us protecting them means they can focus on building their population, culture, and farms.

As for the dragons they are either from the Dragonmaw or the Neither Filght.
 
Massgamer said:
Yeah the trolls were on the planet first and were the most powerful race with a world spanning empire before the Titans showed up. They are one of the few native races on Azeroth that were not created by other worldly beings while still being badasses.
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there is also the fact that all other races including the insect empires where created by their gods the trolls however turned that around and went and crafted their own gods instead.
 
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