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Warcraft: The Rise of the Mag'har

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Dark Abstraction said:
Less Kaz vs Alleria, and more Alleria vs Any orcs she can get her hands on. She's quite justified in her radioactive hatred for orcs, since she's never yet encountered any that weren't genocidal monsters. We're the very first inclings that there's disention in the orcish race, and since we've still got green rocs, it's not a cut-and-dry "Brown orcs good, Green and Red orcs bad" thing.
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Yea, the Horde did burn down...a third(?) of her home forest, and I think killed her little brother and possibly parents if I'm remembering right, in the Second War. You don't forget something like that.
 
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Alright, so. That last Rumor Mill thing means that the Fel Orcs are starting to enslave members of the Nether Flight. We need to start pushing north if we want to be a force of sanctuary and liberation to the refugee and enslaved dragons.

Cooperation with the Draenei, along with spreading knowledge of their past (and the insanely close parallels to our race's) might just (with Jorin, Garrosh, and Dranosh pushing it) end up giving a Mag'har racial trait of brotherhood (or at least inherent favor) of the Draenei. They are basically the orcish race with better tech, really, so it would be good to push fostering better relations with the hard now that the floodgates have been opened.
 
Dark Abstraction said:
Alright, so. That last Rumor Mill thing means that the Fel Orcs are starting to enslave members of the Nether Flight. We need to start pushing north if we want to be a force of sanctuary and liberation to the refugee and enslaved dragons.

Cooperation with the Draenei, along with spreading knowledge of their past (and the insanely close parallels to our race's) might just (with Jorin, Garrosh, and Dranosh pushing it) end up giving a Mag'har racial trait of brotherhood (or at least inherent favor) of the Draenei. They are basically the orcish race with better tech, really, so it would be good to push fostering better relations with the hard now that the floodgates have been opened.
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Helping them retake Auchindoun will be a huge aid in that.
 
Awesome turmn and Merry Christmas!

With the Boulder Fist in Nagrand suppressed we should be in a better position to talk to the Warmaul into friendly relations since we proved our strength in fighting the Boulder Fist with survivors returning to them for safety most likely spreading stories of the Orcs that kicked them out of Nagrand.
 
Derek58 said:
Now we need to get started on forming, and then improving. relations with the Alliance Expedition. That's gonna take a lot of work too, especially since hate still burns bright in Alleria's heart.
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Going to be a LOT harder than some people think it will be. Having Ku're revived and being our mediator would probably help Immensely though.

Hard to argue with beings that personify your faith after all. Not sure if even That will help us with Alleria though.
Dark Abstraction said:
Alright, so. That last Rumor Mill thing means that the Fel Orcs are starting to enslave members of the Nether Flight. We need to start pushing north if we want to be a force of sanctuary and liberation to the refugee and enslaved dragons.
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Hmm, where did you find that the Fel Orcs were enslaving the Nether Drakes? I didn't notice anything like that in the rumor.
 
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What's on our project list?

- Close down the portals
- Free Auchindoon
- Make peace with the Alliance
- Fuck up the Fel Orcs
- Do something about the Ogres
- Figure out what happened to Hellscream
- Make a plan with the Draenai to cleanse Outland
- Get out civilisation to a higher level
- Get rid of nasty stupid Orc traditions
 
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Heh.
Kinda funny...
But High Elves are kinda Elven version of Green Mag'har.
 
Sinsystems said:
Those are blood elves.
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No, they aren't.

Night Elf - High Elf - Highborn/Naga/whatever split is similar to Brown Mag'har - Green Mag'har - Fel Orcs.
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Well, more like Green non-Fel Orcs in general* in case of High Elves but kinda like that. And High Elves are mutated by arcane overconsumption.

*Split between non-Blood High Elves and Blood Elves would be similar to Green Mag'har and non-Fel Green Orc in New Horde** difference.

**Except for Thrall
 
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al103 said:
No, they aren't.

Night Elf - High Elf - Highborn/Naga/whatever split is similar to Brown Mag'har - Green Mag'har - Fel Orcs.
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Well, more like Green non-Fel Orcs in general* in case of High Elves but kinda like that. And High Elves are mutated by arcane overconsumption.

*Split between non-Blood High Elves and Blood Elves would be Green Mag'har and non-Fel Green Orc in Horde split analog.
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Don't forget that Night Elves are originally Dark Trolls that were mutated by living close to the Well of Eternity.
 
Oh, more than that. Dark Trolls became Night Elves, who became High Elves and Nagas and Satyrs and (perhaps) Harpies. High Elves became Blood Elves, who became Wretched and Felblood. Darkfallen and Highbornes may or may not count.
 
Dark Trolls -(Well of Eternity)- Night Elves -(More Arcane Magic)- Highborne [mostly social distinction]
-(Demons)- Satyrs
-(Old Gods)- Naga
--(Sunwell)-> High Elves -(Sunwell destruction)- Blood Elves
-(Demons)- Felblood
-(Necromancy)- Darkfallen
-(magic withdrawal)- Wretched
 
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So the Draenei and the Mag'har made peace. Once the truth about the origins of the Burning Legion spreads out it would boost relations from both sides to build a memorial to acknowledge the revelations and atrocities. Depending on the land on Oshu'gun the place should be suitable for one memorial and another at the city Garrosh is rebuilding.
 
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Romv said:
Dark Trolls -(Well of Eternity)- Night Elves -(More Arcane Magic)- Highborne [mostly social distinction]
-(Demons)- Satyrs
-(Old Gods)- Naga
--(Sunwell)-> High Elves -(Sunwell destruction)- Blood Elves
-(Demons)- Felblood
-(Necromancy)- Darkfallen
-(magic withdrawal)- Wretched
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Actually, the Harpies are technically related to the Elves as an offshoot race. Supposedly they have two differing legends behind their creation.

The first is that they're technically an arcane offshoot due to them being a bunch of highborn that betrayed Queen Azshara and as such were cursed to become Harpies as punishment.

The second is that they're technically a relative race of the Night Elves in the same vein that Centaurs are relatives of both Dryads and Keepers of the Grove. As a group of Night Elves that gave themselves over to the Goddess Aviana, they embraced aspects of her, such as being all feather and such, but during the Goddesses death during the War of the Ancient, they reverted into savages and have been that way ever since.

So most evidence points to them being Elf Relatives, from around the War of Ancients period.
 
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