Warcraft: The Rise of the Mag'har

Heh.

I was actually considering a warcraft crossover with pikmin of all things yesterday.

Mind you the pikmin are adorable, but its obscure enough that I wouldn't expect much of it.
The fact that I know that game probably says something about me. But yeah its really easy to cross unlikely things together.

But I'd suggest sticking to your current quests and then the mass effect sequel because I can't wait for a Batarian to become Hydra chow.
 
To be fair, you can't blame the Scarlet Crusaders from not distinguishing between Forsaken and Scourge when a significant fraction of the Forsaken faction was exactly as evil and destructive as the Scourge.

Yes, many members of the Forsaken aren't evil, but when you have no way of knowing which is which (because they don't very well have uniforms distinguishing the bad from the good), and they all get violently angry when you kill members of their faction (because the benevolent Forsaken don't really know about the malevolent ones), it's no surprise that the Scarlet Crusaders just said "hell with it, kill 'em all".

Fanaticism and demonic infiltration/corruption didn't help though, to be sure.

That argument can easily be twisted around to talk about any member of any race, because there is no objectively good race. Everyone has their paragons and their nerdowells.
 
Yes, but most races don't actively let demons make executive decisions for them. Nor do most races desecrate graveyards as a matter of course to bolster their numbers.

Just saying, the Forsaken don't exactly present a good first impression. You have to actually get to know individual members to see the worth of them, because their factions policies, which everyone else sees first, are terribad PR.
 
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Yes, but most races don't actively let demons make executive decisions for them. Nor do most races desecrate graveyards as a matter of course to bolster their numbers.

Just saying, the Forsaken don't exactly present a good first impression. You have to actually get too know individual members to see the worth of them, because their factions policies, which everyone else sees first, are terribad PR.
Most races, or is Sylvanas just a poor judge of character?
 
Sylvannas thought she had him under her thumb. Especially since she believed she had him commit a crime he could never return home from by making him "kill" his own brother. Which was supposedly an iron clad rule of their race.

Course, They found a loophole to exploit which they did ruthlessly.
 
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No, they can be slain. You just have to try really really hard. Or kill them in the Twisting Nether. Or contain them before killing then so that they can't send a few scraps of their being back to reform in the Twisting Nether.
 
No, they can be slain. You just have to try really really hard. Or kill them in the Twisting Nether. Or contain them before killing then so that they can't send a few scraps of their being back to reform in the Twisting Nether.

Since Outland is floating in the Twisting Nether can we kill them on Outland?
 
Well, there were two ways that Dreadlords may have been permanently killed. The first is Nuking them with a power greater than their own.
Which is what illidan did to Tichondrias by using the fel energy from Skull of Gul'dan. Course, this could have also been because he used Fel energy

The second is apparently decapitating them after you kill them, which is what Sylvanas did to the middle brother of Balnazaar and Varimathras.

Course, it's not confirmed whether they're truly dead after that or if they're just relaxing in the Twisting Nether, but we haven't seen them afterwards so that's almost as good.
 
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Wasn't the only reason Thrall accepted the Foresaken into the Horde, despite objections from the Trolls, Tauren and the Orcs, due to the Earthern Ring telling him it was a good idea?

I can't remember, but I'm fairly certain that he made the choice on account of shamanistic stuff.

The Grimtotems and Earthen Ring lobbied they be accepted to find a cure for their condition.
 
Well, there were two ways that Dreadlords may have been permanently killed. The first is Nuking them with a power greater than their own.
Which is what illidan did to Tichondrias by using the fel energy from Skull of Gul'dan. Course, this could have also been because he used Fel energy

The second is apparently decapitating them after you kill them, which is what Sylvanas did to the middle brother of Balnazaar and Varimathras.

Course, it's not confirmed whether they're truly dead after that or if they're just relaxing in the Twisting Nether, but we haven't seen them afterwards so that's almost as good.

We hadn't seen Mal'ganis until Wrath of the Lich King, and he was killed with the "IMMA EATIN' YOUR SOUL" sword.
 
We hadn't seen Mal'ganis until Wrath of the Lich King, and he was killed with the "IMMA EATIN' YOUR SOUL" sword.
I don't know, the Natherzim themselves forged the sword, I'd say they added a 'no Demon Souls nom'd' clause.

So it's not a case of 'lack of power', but 'inherent forging limitation'.
 
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Well, there were two ways that Dreadlords may have been permanently killed. The first is Nuking them with a power greater than their own.
Which is what illidan did to Tichondrias by using the fel energy from Skull of Gul'dan. Course, this could have also been because he used Fel energy

The second is apparently decapitating them after you kill them, which is what Sylvanas did to the middle brother of Balnazaar and Varimathras.

Course, it's not confirmed whether they're truly dead after that or if they're just relaxing in the Twisting Nether, but we haven't seen them afterwards so that's almost as good.
There's also things like using weapons that consume souls. Malganis seemed pretty damned surprised when Arthas used Frostmourne to perm-kill him. Although, since Frostmourne was destroyed and all the souls it contained passed on, it's likely that he's back in the Twisting Nether.
 
There's also things like using weapons that consume souls. Malganis seemed pretty damned surprised when Arthas used Frostmourne to perm-kill him. Although, since Frostmourne was destroyed and all the souls it contained passed on, it's likely that he's back in the Twisting Nether.
Mal'Ganis did not die to Arthas. He survived, took the guise of Barean Westwind and took over the Scarlet Onslaught when Wrath of the Lich King rolled in, just like how Balnazzar had done it with the original Scarlet Crusade.
 
Survey Closed
Garadar Guard
Don't Let Them Sneak
Preparing Zangarmarsh
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What Can We Do For you
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Oh Hey, They're Right There
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Greatmother Geyah
Prophetic Meeting
 
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