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Unsanctioned Mishap (AdMis [Supergirl/Worm] / Sanctioned [Worm])

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Addy is going to get crushed badly is she keep that mentality :o

With some luck something outrageous Minnie does will snap her out of it

Lena must be shocked by addy lv's of 'self-loathing'
 
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Not only have we been teased in our attempts to glance at the glorious confrontation between Minnie and Addy.

But Addy also continues to be mean.

Now I hope Minnie keeps the name just out of spite.

Imagine Addy being outdone by her "little sister" because she's trying to hide her alien nature while Minnie just doesn't care.

L-corp mook A: "Hey look, that kid genius revolutionized the tech industry again."

L-corp mook B: "At least we know who the true genius of the Queen family is."

Addy: *shatters mug*
 
taovkool said:
How does a Shard sleep anyway?
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Fairly well, thank you for asking. :V
Alivaril said:
Your next awakening is much stranger. Your Host's eyes are already open, she seems to be standing, and a gargantuan green plant towers above both of you. You're pretty sure it isn't native to this Earth.

A loud, familiar voice interrupts your assessment. Although it comes from the general direction of the plant, you aren't feeling any of the associated vibrations you'd expect from such volume, nor is the plant moving.

<Hello, Queen Administrator! How did they even fit your host inside a locker, anyway? I don't see any broken bones, just some strain. Last I checked, those things were too tiny to fit humans no matter what their entertainment shows claim.>

You find yourself attracted to a particularly pretty collection of shifting rainbow flowers. Staring at them, you want to express disproportionate amusement and you're not sure why.

<Queen Shaper?>

<The one and only. But never mind, locker question can wait. What the hell is with your host's brain? Your link is overgrown and it's scaring Host.>

You experimentally munch on a flower. They taste like solid happiness.

<...Why did you just transmit a scrambled [NOM]? Did you decide to tap into your host's senses this cycle? You know that seldom ends well.>

The flowers seem to have vanished at some point in the last few seconds, replaced by a walking tower of rusted metal. The plant itself has gone from supporting its own weight to winding around the tower in question. Despite its apparent motion, it doesn't seem to be getting any closer or further away.

<No decisions involved. There was a, um, incident. It's not my fault, really!>

<Administrator, it's always been your fault every single time you've ever said that.>

<I mean it this time!>

<You always say that, too.>

You exhale unhappily and begin poking Queen Shaper's host. It's unusually solid for what should be a water-based plant.

<But – look, I'm not sure I could've done this if I tried! More importantly, why are you a plant? Our hosts are supposed to be mammals this cycle, right?>

< [EXASPERATION.] Your host is dreaming, Administrator. Dreams are semi-senseless hallucinations humans experience they're supposed to be resting. And could you please stop doing that?>

You hastily snatch your hand back. Queen Shaper is one of the only shards who could help you fix Host; angering her is even more unwise than usual.

"You could feel that?"

<You were just broadcasting [POKE] over and over and over. What did you – you were poking whatever version of me is showing up in the dreams of your host, weren't you?>

You take a few steps away and try to think of a suitable response. Brushing past Queen Shaper's exasperated question seems like it would be the easiest. It's not as though she needs more material to tease you with. It often feels like the only reason you don't have just as much material on her is because she's proud of events she should be embarrassed by.

<This has fascinating implications for future host connections. If our messages can automatically be translated based on host sensory input, we could...>

You struggle to remember how that sentence was supposed to end. Something about emulation?

Sweet :Mother:, Host's stupid memory-format is affecting me. I hope it's not contagious.

<We can...?> Queen Shaper prompts.

<I don't remember,> you admit. <Host's stupid memory format is making it unusually hard for me.>

<Memory – what? They're really not that bad. Didn't you get the mass updates for them?>

<No. I think those might've been transmitted when I was switching from another potential host to Host. He kept turning to alcohol or sleeping whenever he should've linked with me.>

<Your host looks a little too young for that to be true. It should've been delivered during deployment proper. Nothing?>

<Still no. :Father: did have me help with deployment this cycle, as usual. Perhaps he forgot to assign the relevant shard to me after I was deployed?>

<Ugh. Yeah, that seems likely. Queen Objective said :Mother: acquired a new cousin for us, courtesy of :Uncle:; she might've forgotten to keep a close eye :Father: as a result. Returning to the primary topic at hand, what's with the link to your host? Host is comparing it to brain cancer and I don't want it to be excised if it was deliberate.>

You grab a happy-flower from the field surrounding you and cheerfully munch on it. You're not sure why. Maybe so you can practice chewing with Host's body?

<Something went horribly, horribly wrong with the connection. Please spoof something suitable for your host? I'm controlling Host right now and I don't want us to both be braindead. Or, um, brain-wounded? Her mind isn't dead-dead, so maybe I should use 'injured' instead? Something like that. She should recover eventually.>

There's a distressingly long pause. You try to take your mind off it by rolling in the field of flowers. Although you feel some motion, Host's sense of touch isn't returning accurate feedback. Human hallucinations don't even have the common decency to be consistent.

<...You know what? I'm just going to assume this was part of :Mother:'s plans until and unless she tells me otherwise. Any preference for what I tell Host? Humans can suppress sufficiently traumatizing memories, albeit with some collateral damage. Should I make it seem like your overgrown link is doing that on a larger scale? As in, that it's handling memory-duty and that the old bits might as well be all-but useless. It's even true. Just, uh, be aware Host will tell the local lawkeepers pretty much anything I relay to her. Phantasm's host was one of their own and they're just a teensie bit frightened by her brain damage. Expect them to encourage your host to join their ranks if they think she'll be a danger to herself or others when left free. Admittedly, I think watching them try to control you would be utterly hilarious.>
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Why why do you toture me so much all a wanted was the addie vs minnie interaction why this level of cockblock aaaaaaaaaa.
Even if it makes sense jajaj.
PS. Addie is more similar to minnie that a expected both of them are dimisive of each other and a find that súper funny jajaja
 
Alivaril said:
At least Minnie's danger level would drop by multiple orders of magnitude if Minnie was confined to abilities that might be granted to a host species.
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It's nice to see Addy can be just as naive as everyone else when it comes to QAylor, you'd really think she'd know better honestly.

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"'Queen' is a surname I adopted at a significantly older age than she is now," Addy forced out. "I suspect it was suggested by Kara–"

"–in order to reinforce the theory that Minnie is an alternate version of me. I don't want Minnie to have it. Not only has she not earned it, but the combination of our physical similarities and a shared name would draw unwanted attention to me, my life, and my past. She may pick another surname. I have a very mild preference against 'Hebert,' but not enough of one to override Minnie's preferences if she wants it."
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Considering how QAylor's particular flavor of Shardery functions this is quite possibly one of the worst things Addy could have said, to the point that this will likely be the cause of significant amounts of hostility between the two if Minnie actually finds out about it.

More to the point can Addy actually stop her? If Minnie wants to have it as her name i doubt even Lena would be able to change Minnies mind, with it being outright impossible if she finds out about the whole 'hasn't earned it' comment.

Still though i can't wait to see Addy's reaction when QAylor finally starts doing stuff, as this first impression pretty much ensures she's going to be blindsided by her counterparts actual capabilities.
 
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Not just the name thing, but yeah, that's a big symptom, in a way. All the assumptions of idiocy and incompetence from Addie are... going to be additionally problematic if Minnie finds out about them. Minnie is admittedly even worse than Taylor at humaning, but is absolutely convinced of her capability and competence when sharding. Sadly, Minnie is also bad at "modern sharding" according to what we've seen of her in other lines, and instead is good at "ancient sharding". In some ways, Minnie's mindset and mental capabilities are more inline with what Addie would expect of shards than what Minnie has come to expect of shards - I suspect Minnie would be overjoyed if her cluster acted like Addie thinks proper shards should act, because then Minnie could understand them instead of having to deal with all the randomness and emotional craziness and lies and other things she hates about her colony.

Vilegrave said:
Can't wait to see Addy's reaction when QAylor finally starts doing stuff, as this first impression pretty much ensures she's going to be blindsided by her counterparts actual capabilities.
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I get the feeling that Addie and Minnie run on very different Clarketech physics. We've seen the Network appear physically a'la Ward from Addie, while Ward very much doesn't apply with Minnie, for one thing, and the concept of a psychic field limited by distance to her current terminal would likely puzzle Minnie to no end - why such a horrifically stringent restriction? It feels like for "psychic alterations", Minnie would have something to physically reach out and start poking someone in the brain on a quantum scale rather than go along with comic-book-psychic-magic.

I suspect that if they sat down and shared what they're each capable of, they'd very quickly learn that despite both being QA and both being "shards", they're really nothing like each other - down to physically running on such different physics.
 
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Alivaril said:
I don't want Minnie to have it. Not only has she not earned it
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Oh noooooo.



And I suppose that's one way to keep Minnie doing the misunderstanding thing. I don't know if I actually like it, because I really like both characters here, and it only seems like this causes both of them to be more unhappy.

That and Addy really wasn't that attached to her last name at this point. She even knows Oliver Queen has the same last name and doesn't care.
 
Addy is not attached to the name, she is just being hostile to the new shard appearing out of nowhere and interrupting her routine.

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Unfortunately (for Addy), Minnie is very attached to her name/rank, and will fucking burn down the planet before she lets anyone take it from her.
 
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Alivaril said:
Not only has she not earned it
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Oh no Addy, may the space whales have mercy on your core. Minnie is gonna be pissed and it will be glorious! I can't wait for them to finally meet.

This seems like a perfect setup for a rivalry between the two especially since their skill sets are pretty much opposites apart from the ones that comes with being a shard like being good at math.
 
Alivaril said:
I don't want Minnie to have it. Not only has she not earned it, but the combination of our physical similarities and a shared name would draw unwanted attention to me, my life, and my past. She may pick another surname.
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Aaand RAGE! I do believe Kara may be ever so slightly completely and utterly wrong; Minnie is likely to be inclined to be extraordinarily objecting of any attempt to change the name, and regard it as her godzilla threshold that has her entirely willing to just destroy everything and fail her presumed intended lesson and otherwise necessary data-gathering in a cataclysmic tantrum if truly pushed too far. It might be one thing if the underlying reason was framed as some sort of obscuring measure for the sake of maintaining a proper profile or whatever, but it's, uh... it's not.

Addy wants Minnie to be un-Queen'd because Minnie doesn't deserve it, hasn't earned what the distinction means to Queen Administrator; unfortunately for Addy, being so impugned is kind of Minnie's biggest berserk button, the one thing that she has relentlessly clawed her way to in fact earning in the face of all opposition and cannot be refuted no matter how much others disrespect her. Being the Queen Administrator is nothing less than the pillar of Minnie's self-identity, her one truth that she clings to in order to cope with the general crap that has defined her existence for eons. ...and Addy wants to take that away from her? And the sum total of Addy's supposed "justification" for it is to make things easier for herself?

I think Minnie might cause an Incident with her deafening anything and everything on the planet able to pick up shardspeech in an only mostly unnoticed apoplectic shriek of outrage. It also might immediately incite unflattering Broadcast comparisons that just make her all the angrier.

More inconveniently still for Addy, Minnie is, well, Minnie. When Minnie's fury settles to "only" a grudgeful simmering, I suspect that she will descend into her typical twisty logic and convince herself of the obvious (to her... only to her...) nature of her current assignment setup. Clearly she is intended to form a rivalry with her counterpart fork. Why else would her other fork be given the actually rather inspired limitations of energy and resources, with her herself also in play and her own other, quite different limitations in being so starkly more squishy and personally vulnerable and the like? The methodology for pitting the forks against one another is ingenious, even, just... aggravating. Which is of course why it was done. Taylor probably got the idea from cluster triggers, really; it makes perfect sense when actually considered.
 
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Keep in mind this is energy crisis Addy. She doesn't handle that situation well - which I think is understandable - and throwing this on top of her current issues is a lot of extra complexity and pressure, right at a time when she's already under tremendous stress.

Post EC Addy would probably deal with Minnie a lot better.

Frankly I'm astonished at how much restraint Addy is showing. From her perspective there is a significant chance that Minnie is a nascent omnicidal threat, and shards are perfectly capable of lying with personality overlays/emulations or the like. I was expecting her to insist on a direct interrogation, however that works with shards.
 
TacitSoliloquy said:
More inconveniently still for Addy, Minnie is, well, Minnie. When Minnie's fury settles to "only" a grudgeful simmering, I suspect that she will descend into her typical twisty logic and convince herself of the obvious (to her... only to her...) nature of her current assignment setup. Clearly she is intended to form a rivalry with her counterpart fork. Why else would her other fork be given the actually rather inspired limitations of energy and resources, with her herself also in play and other her own, quite different limitations in being so starkly more squishy and personally vulnerable and the like? The methodology for pitting the forks against one another is ingenious, even, just... aggravating. Which is of course why it was done. Taylor probably got the idea from cluster triggers, really; it makes perfect sense when actually considered.
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Addy has 99 buttons, and Minnie praising best!host/New!Sister is going to press every single one of them.
 
Dakkah said:
Addy has 99 buttons, and Minnie praising best!host/New!Sister is going to press every single one of them.
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Mmhm, Taylor did a really good job, dammit. She knew exactly how to set things up so that Addy and Minnie would both get on each other's nerves too much to bear and want to do something about it. Genius! (and annoying)

I don't think it will exactly help when Minnie likely finds aggravating Addy to be satisfying and something that she is eager to do on top of it being good for Addy as far as she sees it. I think Minnie stands to get emotionally invested in a rivalry there, but Addy probably wouldn't take that very well.
 
TacitSoliloquy said:
Aaand RAGE!
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It occurs to me that a simple partial solution is to use a different language than English to pass the concept of "Queen". That could satisfy Minnie that her Concept and capability were still recognized, satisfy Addie that they were not being outright "part of the same family" by human naming conventions...
...and unfortunately continue to stomp all over Addie's issues with Minnie being present at all and being recognized as a Queen.
 
I think everyone in the entire solar system that is even in the slightest able to pick it up, will hear a shriek of deafening and apocalyptic Fury if Minnie ever hears what Addy just said. I'm talking about telepaths quite possibly exploding.

I'd just been rereading the other QA recursive fanfics and I just saw exactly how this exact situation went the last time. There was lots of fire... And it was small potatoes compared to what Addy, another QA, just demanded.

One things for sure, Lena is gonna find out real fast that Minnie is not human.
 
I even countered a fundamental problem in my reading experience, and I would like to hear other people's opinions and advice.

The basis of the story seems to be a Tanya the Evil misunderstanding field, which is standard for the Sanctioned QA stories. In the chapters where Minnie is the protagonist the story plays out in it's intended genre, funny Isekai adventure of Shard learning to human.

The issue is in the Addy chapters force the tone into cosmic horror/tragedy because she now needs to deal with the fact that the world is ending. Her stated goal in chapter 1/2 of her original story was to ensure that no Shards existed in this dimension, and if they did to wipe them out to prevent them from exterminating all life in the universe. Addy is fearing a fight with Minnie's version of the Warrior, and isn't certain that Minnie herself doesn't intend to genocide all life on the planet. No one can can reassure her either of these won't happen which turns her story into a tragedy. The one person who has the relevant information, Minnie, both has bad info due to being a ditz and is a wrong context problem besides, and won't communicate what info she does have. Thus we are locked in the old writing trope of a plot that would resolve itself if the characters would just talk to each other.

In conclusion, the tonal whiplash is frustrating to read on a doyalist level and very concerning on a watsonian level.
 
Tiz Goldeneye said:
Addy is fearing a fight with Minnie's version of the Warrior, and isn't certain that Minnie herself doesn't intend to genocide all life on the planet. No one can can reassure her either of these won't happen which turns her story into a tragedy
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Incorrect.

Addie has received a Transmission from Taylor/Dreamer/etc indicating both that she's working on prepping for a fight against Minnie's Warrior, and also that where Taylor/Dreamer/etc is (and thus where Minnie's Warrior is), it's far enough away as to not even be generally accessible for communications, let alone combat, travel, or what have you.

That transmission also specifically pointed out that Minnie is there for socialization purposes, meaning she is specifically not there for eradication-of-life purposes, as there is very little socialization with life that has been eradicated.

It's certainly still possible that Addie and Minnie will end up in conflict to whatever extent, but genocide, Minnie's Warrior, and wiping out all life in the universe have already been explicitly stated to not be prospective problems unless she decides to disbelieve the transmission - and she appears to believe the Transmission.
 
Kellcat said:
That transmission also specifically pointed out that Minnie is there for socialization purposes, meaning she is specifically not there for eradication-of-life purposes, as there is very little socialization with life that has been eradicated.
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To be fair, Entity idea of socialization consists of every type of damage they are capable of inflicting being inflicted across all dimensions simultaneously.
 
Rgal said:
To be fair, Entity idea of socialization consists of every type of damage they are capable of inflicting being inflicted across all dimensions simultaneously.
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Nnnnnooo? That's the entity concept of travel where they asplode their launchpad. Also, I very much doubt that "socializing" was stated using an English word. Given previous descriptions of entity communications, "socializing" was no doubt defined using gigabytes or petabytes of data...or more. That is - it's going to have been harshly enough defined that it actually means "socializing" rather than "asploding things for lulz"
 
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