im waiting for the reveal of minnies alien status to Lena to see her reaction to minnie actually being a biological weapons computer that has been part of a gestalt that has genocided entire realities for countless millenia .... aka minnie being a cutie
 
Reassembling her is pretty much impossible at this point.
The Thinker's death is something of a sliding scale. In the early eighties when she was originally disabled she could have been revived through a horribly careless accident, in the nineties she could have been revived through careful work by Scion, but by now she's been thoroughly lobotomized and enough core shards are broken that nothing could revive her.

Minnie doesn't realize that people have been continuously attacking the Thinker - through Cauldron capes pulling chunks out of the collective, Cauldron experiments killing bits here and there, and Eidolon draining vast swathes - and as such is being entirely reasonable. If Cauldron had called it a day after initially disabling the Thinker she'd be completely correct.
 
While I assume Minnie isn't being entirely logical with her escape plans, I wonder where she plans to go? If she is able to get a sample and doesn't have her dimensional breaching power, it's not like she can just hide in somebody's basement, right? Unless she can temporarily become a tiny emergency version of herself, like she's a seed.
 
As we know from Worm proper, her death is a lot more thorough than that. If I recall correctly, just about every Thinker shard (except possibly Path To Victory, if you consider that one of hers) is dead or otherwise unresponsive. Reassembling her is pretty much impossible at this point.

Kara probably doesn't know this, but Addy probably does. If it was actually possible to reassemble the Thinker, the Warrior would have presumably just done that instead of saving cats stuck in trees for 20+ years.
not true, the component shards arent dead, they simply lack the ability to cross communicate due to non-standard setup, and they are losing energy due to being frankensteined to hell and back and lacking proper connections with the other shards they were forced to cross connect with but they arent *dead* this is why Eidolons shard was capable of doing things without actual direct intent from Eidolon ie. called the endbringers.

i may be wrong but i also think there was a wog somewhere that thinker wasnt even technically dead at the start of canon either, shes just lost the vital shards that she needed to command her other shards and was hence "dying" still for the past couple decades, though iirc she was fully dead by GM. also warrior couldnt just "fix" the thinker because he didnt know where the thinker actually was, and he was so stuck in his emotional emulation he never even thought to spend the energy needed to breach whatever dimensional barriers was protecting him from finding her (iirc it was mantellum no? iirc his anti-thinker power actually works on entities, it was how the entities hid from others of their kind)

While I assume Minnie isn't being entirely logical with her escape plans, I wonder where she plans to go? If she is able to get a sample and doesn't have her dimensional breaching power, it's not like she can just hide in somebody's basement, right? Unless she can temporarily become a tiny emergency version of herself, like she's a seed.
i assume she plans to pull her body from whatever moon or planet its on and pull it to a neighboring empty dimension to this one, rather than pull to her current location. not all dimensions are within the entities sphere of influence, they had a lot, but they didnt have infinity
 
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man this feels a lot like kara is reading way to much into minie which is funny. kara and adie still don't know that the shards in sactioned are very different than the shards of mishap.
i mean am pretty sure that QA in sactioned has fucked a lot of cycles with accident. where QA mishap was a slave
 
man this feels a lot like kara is reading way to much into minie which is funny. kara and adie still don't know that the shards in sactioned are very different than the shards of mishap.
i mean am pretty sure that QA in sactioned has fucked a lot of cycles with accident. where QA mishap was a slave
I haven't read the OG quest this is a spin off of, but from sanctioned QA has said, it feels like she was a slave with extra steps. Not massively different.
 
You wrote that Kara still do still do to Lena in the text conversation about food, which might be a mistake? I think you meant "I am not sure I still do".

Just wanted to point that out.

This chapter was really good and I would love to see Addy and Minnie talk it out over the bribe of Geese
 
Huh considering Addy is still literally and figuratively masked in this timeline, I wonder if she was seen with a goose acquaintance if she would be asked about it on her personal twitter she runs primarily about Geese.
 
She's actually still trying to hide the biological side of things, which makes excuses difficult and full of seemingly-sullen silences. Minnie may or may not be succeeding at hiding them, but she's trying.
When you're looking at the molecular and atomic scale, manufacturing is chemistry is biology and none are too far removed from straight physics and maths. I mean, take a look at the literal proton-powered turbines making ATP around the three minute mark in this video on the operation of midichlorians mitochondria, or the DNA copying and RNA transcription from around 2:20 to 5:00 in another. If she's talking about nanoswarms, she's already talking about biology.
 
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My first instinct was to just edit this into the previous post, but it's been hours, Alivaril already looked at that one, and it more than doubles the length I had, so please forgive the double post in this case.

Anyway, I finally found the playlist with all of the animations in that series:

Biomedical Animation by wehi.tv

To expand on my original comment above in regards to this fic and character interaction specifically, whether Lena and Kara think in those terms is of course still open to question; Lena is a polymath genius and Kara was on track to the Kryptonian scientist caste, but neither of them appear to be particularly wetware-focused and with the universe operating on comics tropes by default "nanotechnology" is often treated as just another flavor of space-magic. On one hand that means it is possible Minie can at least for the moment successfully "hide" the bio-tinker aspects to avoid setting off "that's icky" or "playing god/science gone too far/things man was not meant to know" panic, but at the same time plays directly into the more frustrating limitations they want to impose. One way or the other, neither is likely to remain unaware of the implications for long once they put any real effort into investigating, even without digging into extraterrestrial databases.
 
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not true, the component shards arent dead, they simply lack the ability to cross communicate due to non-standard setup,

Shards definition of *death* is can't communicate, they are dead by their own definition.

When you're looking at the molecular and atomic scale, manufacturing is chemistry is biology and none are too far removed from straight physics and maths. I mean, take a look at the literal proton-powered turbines making ATP around the three minute mark in this video on the operation of midichlorians mitochondria, or the DNA copying and RNA transcription from around 2:20 to 3:00 in another. If she's talking about nanoswarms, she's already talking about biology.

Technically, on the molecular scale, the main difference between *organic* and *inorganic* is what Atoms are the most used (dicounting hydrogen, it's everywhere), if it's oxygen and carbon, it's organic, otherwise it's not. The interactions are basically the same otherwise. And yeah, even that line is blurry.
 
I kinda thought the kryptonite-seeker drone was just some set-up for a joke, and that Kara was just going to dismiss it. But she seems to be actually considering using it for real.

I mean... why is she even taking it seriously? That's impractical as hell, not to mention the sheer insanity of constantly carrying a specialized animal on your body. Where is she even going to hide it when she's in her civilian identity?
She was even thinking about using a pet dragon as a scarf. Had she inhaled some strange kryptonite fumes or something before meeting with Minnie?

Go home, Kara, get some sleep.
 
I kinda thought the kryptonite-seeker drone was just some set-up for a joke, and that Kara was just going to dismiss it. But she seems to be actually considering using it for real.

I mean... why is she even taking it seriously? That's impractical as hell, not to mention the sheer insanity of constantly carrying a specialized animal on your body. Where is she even going to hide it when she's in her civilian identity?
She was even thinking about using a pet dragon as a scarf. Had she inhaled some strange kryptonite fumes or something before meeting with Minnie?

Go home, Kara, get some sleep.

Its being described as a robot because the difference isn't massive to Minnie. Also a mildly impractical solution to the number one most significant threat to your life isn't something to dismiss out of hand. Like a bulletproof vest is heavy, fairly large and not great to wear but people will take that over getting shot without it. This is even more extreme because she's basically invulnerable to most other forms of attack and this accessory means the first time someone pulls it against her it's nullified.
 
the main difference between *organic* and *inorganic* is what Atoms are the most used
That's why I didn't say anything about organic or inorganic, yeah. Chemically, my Transformers, the chair I'm sitting in, my trackball, and even the monitor in front of me since it has a plastic screen and the power supply is a separate component are majority organic, but none of them would be setting off the "meddling in life's domain" people aside from environmentalists looking at manufacturing or eventual disposal side effects rather than the items themselves. Just like "sapient" versus "sophont" though, "organic" commonly gets used to mean "is or was alive" or at best "has organs" rather than in the chemical sense, both of which are examples for why I disapprove of that "languages are constantly changing, so words mean whatever people use them to mean" business. Balderdash! Literally incromulent splunge!
 
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Just like "sapient" versus "sophont" though, "organic" commonly gets used to mean "is or was alive" or at best "has organs" rather than in the chemical sense, both of which are examples for why I disapprove of that "languages are constantly changing, so words mean whatever people use them to mean" business. Balderdash! Literally incromulent splunge!
"Organic" as in "living" or "containing organs" is older than the chemical sense, so you're fine with language changing over time and just don't like that it doesn't change completely for everyone.
 
"I do not have an opinion on human attempts to produce pleasing noises. I have primarily been exposed to wordless soundtracks used to accompany visual entertainment media, which were apparently associated with specific 'moods.' The ability of some music to artificially induce human emotions is, however, uncomfortably similar to malware. I believe it is often utilized in order to compensate for boring attempts at 'entertainment.'"
Funny fact, in a ward intelude, the three faces commented that music does appear in different life forms, but it is usually significantly different, meaning every species (that does have music equivalent) have it's own idea of what music is, and what is good music.

Of course this likely wouldn't be true in the much more human centric universe of Supergirl, where everyone is practically a human that looks differently or have super powers, with very very few exceptions.
 
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Funny fact, in a ward intelude, the three faces commented that music does appear in different life forms, but it is usually significantly different, meaning every species (that does have music equivalent) have it's own idea of what music is, and what is good music.

Well, this is a logical extension of the idea that alien are not humans and might not even share the same senses, or the same plages of sensibilities in shared senses, so, makes sense.
 
assume she plans to pull her body from whatever moon or planet its on and pull it to a neighboring empty dimension to this one, rather than pull to her current location. not all dimensions are within the entities sphere of influence, they had a lot, but they didnt have infinity
Nothing really says there are infinity dimensions, hell, in the CW, all earth were nearly destroyed multiple times, which implies finity.

We know now that there are multiple branches, Addy comes from one, CW is another, and Minnie comes from another, but there is no proof there are infinite of those, or that those don't make a bigger branch which is harder to get to other branches from.
 
"Organic" as in "living" or "containing organs" is older than the chemical sense, so you're fine with language changing over time and just don't like that it doesn't change completely for everyone.
Not really - if "organic" solely meant "living" or "composed of organs" and we just had neologisms for the chemistry I'd be even happier. In the lack, I prefer words to have a unique, specific meaning, and either of those are shorter and easier than defining the properties that make an organic molecule in the chemical sense, even if you pare that down to "mostly composed of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and/or nitrogen."

Hells, I'd settle for a consistent, grammatically mandatory indicator for sarcasm, instead of having to rely on tone and context that may be distorted or stripped by poor people skills or the medium itself. My sarliteral hat off to anyone who can make that stick with the endless legions of sargeniuses who make up the general population, though. Addy and Minie would probably find that one of the few points they agree on, but without forbidding a final statement of your own, I say we should let this tangent end before it turns into (even more of) a derail.
 
For now, you did get approval for the Kryptonite-eaters—from Lena, that is, I'm still not sure they'd be worth–"
"Elaboration: Something similar in shape to a ferret or snake would be preferred. Ideally, it will be an appearance that you and other Kryptonians are comfortable with permanently wearing as part of your costumes, but you and Administrator take priority."
Y'know I really want this to happen now. Someone shows up with some kryptonite based weapon and Supergirl's ferret jumps down and eats it.
 
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