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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
I figure out it's best not to raise it higher than 25, let's not give the voters (and Anna) a temptation to YOLO purchase Abomination. Aegis Field gives us HP anyway, so we're decent on that.
I figure out it's best not to raise it higher than 25, let's not give the voters (and Anna) a temptation to YOLO purchase Abomination. Aegis Field gives us HP anyway, so we're decent on that.
LostDeviljho
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Except I want Abomination, because I want some of the stuff that's gated behind it.
I figure out it's best not to raise it higher than 25, let's not give the voters (and Anna) a temptation to YOLO purchase Abomination. Aegis Field gives us HP anyway, so we're decent on that.
It's an SA. We're going to want it. Period. (Not to mention Kellego let it slip that those three were basically going to be how we raise our Growth Affinity until he realized that that wasn't a thing outside of a couple, very rare, circumstances).
I figure out it's best not to raise it higher than 25, let's not give the voters (and Anna) a temptation to YOLO purchase Abomination. Aegis Field gives us HP anyway, so we're decent on that.
We'll probably just want the others first.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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idk what's behind the others, but Summit can get Tear The Gods From Their Heights after she has Abomination. TTGFTH is a really good ability.
There's a lot of nice toys hidden in various places. Level 50 Panoply hides Superslayer.
That wasn't a backhand. That was a punch in the face from a very high end Dark Magical Girl who is really really good at spamming huge amounts of raw damage.
Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
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- Behind you~
I was being a little tongue in cheek, but it's a single attack.
Saying she was a high end Magical Girl as a qualifier is great, but it's not like Summit -isn't- going to find herself in the same battlefield as some of these people. And while not all of them are going to be world shattering damage threats, I don't think it's off base to say that most of them will hit pretty hard.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Considering her core build philosophy is being able to oneshot things with her punch spell, the fact that Summit tanked it is already doing pretty good.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Oh yeah, votes.
[X] Head back to the Magical Girl Quarters and fix the Ice Cream Maker with Magic™
[X] Head back to the Magical Girl Quarters and fix the Ice Cream Maker with Magic™
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
...All those things were disclosed in Discord, weren't they?
Why then did nobody release the information here???
That said to put things in perspective 35-50 Panoply is 1850+2100+2350=6300 xp.
Comparatively Paragon is 1100+1350+3500=5950 xp.
EDIT: Actually, with 2x instances of Formidable Defenses (210 xp to raise Aegis Field hp/level by 100 and resilience/level by 10) Paragon costs 1100+1350+3500+420=6370 xp.
Why then did nobody release the information here???
That said to put things in perspective 35-50 Panoply is 1850+2100+2350=6300 xp.
Comparatively Paragon is 1100+1350+3500=5950 xp.
EDIT: Actually, with 2x instances of Formidable Defenses (210 xp to raise Aegis Field hp/level by 100 and resilience/level by 10) Paragon costs 1100+1350+3500+420=6370 xp.
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Not mine.
I don't even have the Discord for any of this series of quests. :/
Well, the Superslayer thing was originally mentioned as a joke. Also, in addition to level 50 Panoply, it has the additional requirement of at least 5 regular Slayer Abilities.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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To be fair, I'm reasonably certain that the TTGFTH thing was mentioned here, back when we first found out about it.
But yeah, I'm trying to figure out a way to better disseminate info from the discord back to SV.
LostDeviljho-10/18/2017
For the record I would totally be okay with it if Summit learned Tear the Gods from their Heights at some point
tbh it's probably more thematically fitting on a maker MG than it was on 6th
Decim-10/19/2017
Making a guess for the requirements right now
tear the gods from their heights
kelllogo-10/19/2017
And you have to defeat an Epic or Divinity being. The Panoply level isn't part of the requirements.
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
ah sweet now we have goals
Decim-10/19/2017
huh
Wasn't expected to get most of it right
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
okay quick question
defeat as in "murderdeathkill" or defeat as in "win a sparring match"?
Because Madama Morte is in town... >_>
kelllogo-10/19/2017
Sparring match works. You just have to have an honest win. Killing berserker would certainly count
Decim-10/19/2017
Wouldn't Madama Morte just rez her?(edited)
Vertex-10/19/2017
Kill Nightmare of Flesh
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
Madama's spell isn't high enough level to have Reincarnate yet
Decim-10/19/2017
Ah
nvm
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
on the other hand
Dark Steel has a save from death...
we could probably take her?
as long as we don't let her touch the Panoply
then we'd be fucked
For the record I would totally be okay with it if Summit learned Tear the Gods from their Heights at some point
tbh it's probably more thematically fitting on a maker MG than it was on 6th
Decim-10/19/2017
Making a guess for the requirements right now
-Panoply Level 40
-To Defy the Gods
-Abomination
-To Defy the Gods
-Abomination
kelllogo-10/19/2017
And you have to defeat an Epic or Divinity being. The Panoply level isn't part of the requirements.
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
ah sweet now we have goals
Decim-10/19/2017
huh
Wasn't expected to get most of it right
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
okay quick question
defeat as in "murderdeathkill" or defeat as in "win a sparring match"?
Because Madama Morte is in town... >_>
kelllogo-10/19/2017
Sparring match works. You just have to have an honest win. Killing berserker would certainly count
Decim-10/19/2017
Wouldn't Madama Morte just rez her?(edited)
Vertex-10/19/2017
Kill Nightmare of Flesh
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
Madama's spell isn't high enough level to have Reincarnate yet
Decim-10/19/2017
Ah
nvm
LostDeviljho-10/19/2017
on the other hand
Dark Steel has a save from death...
we could probably take her?
as long as we don't let her touch the Panoply
then we'd be fucked
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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- Any
Alternatively on the "kill an epic" prereq, we could get Darkslayer and go murder a Balrog. Pretty sure it was mentioned there's some of those around her somewhere.
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- madison
[X] EXP-Plan Build and Dismantle
instant manufacturer is nice, and being able to spot buy more things in a pinch is always a great surprise for our foes. Also, each protan slot has an exponential affect right now because we have modifiers that we can stick on that will multiply the attack.
I really want to see what laser+rain of light looks like.
instant manufacturer is nice, and being able to spot buy more things in a pinch is always a great surprise for our foes. Also, each protan slot has an exponential affect right now because we have modifiers that we can stick on that will multiply the attack.
I really want to see what laser+rain of light looks like.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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Probably kinda meh, tbh. It's not like Laser will increase the RoL ticks or anything.
Edit: I mean, it'll do more damage, yes, but it won't be some spectacular super combo.
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- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
You mean one of Dwarven Overseer's Happy Fun Stuff ones?
Hmmmm. Ray, Heavy Caliber, Multi Shot and Danmaku can allow us to kill one with a single salvo. Even without Darkslayer.
- (Tame? Monster) Mr. Snuggle
Look at me!
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- (Happy Fun Stuff) Balrog
Wanna hug?
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They can probably use their Roar on us, and it's probably going to have Omnipresent, Burn, Juggernaut and Smite, for a maximum of 45000 damage. Multiply by 1.3 for 58500. Divide by 4 - 14625 damage. 1000 Resilience, -700 SMITED, +2925 Reactive Field, - 2944 Juggernaut, +736 Thick Armor = 1017 Damage Reduction. Damage 13608, or 5443 with Ceaseless Warrior... 3 attacks, 3 balrogs - and probably more if we pick Adamantine while we're getting closer and/or they don't get their full MM roll.
So yeah, if the current EXP plan goes through, we'll be good for hunting a solitary Balrog, since Mr. Snuggle is more or less harmless for us.
On a different note:
@kelllogo, what do we have to do to get Interceptor Fire aka Intercept (Ranged)? I think Summit would appreciate being able to Protect others without needing to interpose herself between them and the danger.
EDIT: A few things to note:
1) While On Wings of Imagination doesn't allow us to ignore Mr.Snuggle's Stun spell, Ceaseless Warrior explicitly does. So yes, they are irrelevant.
2) According to battle with the Starlancer and some comments, Magical Girl Summit has a resistance to Darkness effects equal to 10% of its most significant digit... In this case, it's a maximum of 58500 damage, so 10% of 50000 - 5000 extra Damage Reduction. Or, after reduction, it's 1000. That means the damage string is in fact:
(Roar of the Destroyer: 22500 Base Damage, +22500 Dice = 45000 Damage
Flames of Hell Triggers! Attack gains Burn, Juggernaut and Smite abilities!
Avatar of Evil Triggers! Damage increased by 30%!
58500 Total Damage
To Defy the Gods Triggers! Damage reduced to 1/4th!
14625 Total Damage
Magical Girl Summit: 1000 Resilience, -700 SMITED!, +2925 Reactive Field, - 2944 Juggernaut, +736 Thick Armor, +1000 Resistant to Darkness Effects = 2017 Damage Reduction
12608 End Damage
60% Ceaseless Warrior
5044 Final End Damage
Magical Girl Summit: 14500-5044=9456 Health
Burn Triggers! 145 Damage per turn!)
So there we go.
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I don't think we can get that specific ability. That one actually has a rather non-indicative name.
Its more like Unmatched Skill, but only against mass-based projectiles, and as far as Magical Girls are concerned, is exclusive to the Technology affinity.
If you want to do actual Intercepts with a ranged weapon, you need to have Intercept as either a personal ability or an ability of your ranged weapon.
If you want to be able to use your ranged weapon to Intercept a ranged attack aimed at someone besides yourself, a personal ability is the only option.
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mostly I want to see how it looks and if we get any soft rule benefits from combining the top of the single big attack and lots of little attacks trees. Mostly the benefits are from stuff like the appropriate anti or Salyer abilities.
What really hurts is things that stack multiplicatively with each other and don't use up extra actions.
With what we have right now, an example would be Multi-Shot (3x damage) + Ordnance (1.4x damage and far longer range) + Collateral Damage (much bigger AOE) + Anti-Infantry (6x damage to weak enemies).
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- Any
Stun spell. Don't underestimate that. Stun is kinda OP if they have a teammate because they can keep you locked down indefinitely if they hit you even once.
It looks like charging up your attack before shooting a lot of bullets. Because that's basically what it is.
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But Abomination is the best one! (Has the best stuff behind it/on it.) Why wouldn't Anna want to pick it up?On the subject of Discord stuffs: I teased Superslayer being behind Pioneer, Level 50 Panoply, and six other slayer abilities. Tear the Gods from their Heights is behind Abomination and a personal accomplishment of beating something where TTGFTH would be very useful. I'm not sure where Spectrum is getting his ideas about the 3500xp abilities from >_>, I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything about what they do other than gate some high-rent abilities.
For ranged Intercept: No plans to add it at the moment. For now you'll have to live with starting Intercept conflicts within swinging range. For beam wars you want to start from where your weapon is strongest, right next to you.
Laser + Rain of Light: Imagine one of those bullet hell bosses that fills up 75% of the screen with a huge laser and shoots a tricky pattern while you're pressed up against the side of the screen. Most of the stored laser effect fires off first thing and the majority of the danmaku isn't appreciably boosted.
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Weren't we immune to that? Upon Iron Wings, precursor to Upon Wings of Imagination, allowed us to no-sell total paralysis from Toxic Horror in Crossworlds 4.3.
Well, not quite no-sell, but we were still able to move, fight, and Self-Repair to remove it.
How should I put it... First of all, the name and the flavor text. Second of all, it will be a detriment to her ability to socialize and her friendly acquaintances might object... Do you want to her to end up with no emotions like Machine Code? Third of all, her superiors might ask her to abstain.
On the subject of Discord stuffs: I teased Superslayer being behind Pioneer, Level 50 Panoply, and six other slayer abilities. Tear the Gods from their Heights is behind Abomination and a personal accomplishment of beating something where TTGFTH would be very useful. I'm not sure where Spectrum is getting his ideas about the 3500xp abilities from >_>, I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything about what they do other than gate some high-rent abilities.
For ranged Intercept: No plans to add it at the moment. For now you'll have to live with starting Intercept conflicts within swinging range. For beam wars you want to start from where your weapon is strongest, right next to you.
Laser + Rain of Light: Imagine one of those bullet hell bosses that fills up 75% of the screen with a huge laser and shoots a tricky pattern while you're pressed up against the side of the screen. Most of the stored laser effect fires off first thing and the majority of the danmaku isn't appreciably boosted.
About 3500xp abilities doing anything besides gating other things... You haven't denied them having some kind of effect either, and with costs nearly 5x of Peerless Explorer, I have little doubt others are also of the opinion it's more than a flavor/gate purchase.
About ranged intercept... Dammit... This is one of the times where I want Solid Core to be briefly teamed up with Summit (probably with Anna providing teleportation) and demonstrate the right way of using Supremacy Zone in an army action. Since it's an auto-ranged-intercept for oneself and allies, Summit might become inspired.
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
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- The glorious Pacific Northwest
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- Any
Stun is not a body modifier, I'm afraid.