Towards the Future

100 elf years ago they were talking about the weather with enough power to be detectable at interstellar distances, who knows what they're up to today. 100 elf years ago we were at approx. that level too.
 
True, still only having a limited belt of area where you're physically able to live is quite the disadvantage still.
Is it? We can only physically live on a small fraction of our planet's surface area too, like we're a terrestrial species that lives on a planet that's mostly ocean. At least Dannan's oceans still provided a base to the food chain to support more sophisticated life on land in a way that the apparently barren polar areas on the Lirrir planet don't, but uh... we also killed off 90% of our population and reproduce pretty slow.

Whatever disadvantages the smaller habitable band might have posed to their population growth/societal access to energy resources, us nuking/starving/freezing/poisoning an overwhelming supermajority of our population is absolutely going to set us back more than enough to make up for it. Unless they also nuke themselves into a 90%+ population reduction, they're going to have significantly more intellectual capital than us for a long time, so we should assume that they're going to advance at least as fast as us if not faster.
 
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If aliens are hostile the best we can hope for is accepting becoming a vassal state with how much the nuclear war set us back, and even that is doubtful since we went with the "aggression" cultural trauma so we'll be hard pressed to not respond to hostility by immediately launching what few remaining WMDs we have.
 
Is it? We can only physically live on a small fraction of our planet's surface area too, like we're a terrestrial species that lives on a planet that's mostly ocean. At least Dannan's oceans still provided a base to the food chain to support more sophisticated life on land in a way that the apparently barren polar areas on the Lirrir planet don't, but uh... we also killed off 90% of our population and reproduce pretty slow.

Whatever disadvantages the smaller habitable band might have posed to their population growth/societal access to energy resources, us nuking/starving/freezing/poisoning an overwhelming supermajority of our population is absolutely going to set us back more than enough to make up for it. Unless they also nuke themselves into a 90%+ population reduction, they're going to have significantly more intellectual capital than us for a long time, so we should assume that they're going to advance at least as fast as us if not faster.
Again true, but because they didn't have a devastating nuclear war or something like, so it is likely are a bunch of Nations instead of one possibly with no un analog to control the cats which would certainly make it were they are focus on a bunch of things instead of a few.
 
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If aliens are hostile the best we can hope for is accepting becoming a vassal state with how much the nuclear war set us back, and even that is doubtful since we went with the "aggression" cultural trauma so we'll be hard pressed to not respond to hostility by immediately launching what few remaining WMDs we have.

Not necessarily, it really depends on how the logistics of FTL work but its quite possible that any invasion fleet won't see reinforcements for possibly decades, in which case it might be possible to defeat it through the fact that our industrial base is in system while theirs is a ton of lightyears away.

As for the Lirrir vs our research speed, once again I think our big advantage of having an absurd workforce to population ratio combined with not having actually sent ourselves back to the stone age with the education system having been rebuilt ridiculously fast, mostly everyone still having the same level of education and the economy being as modern (more modern in some ways and less modern in others) as pre-nukes. The last bit is not an advantage as much as its reducing the disadvantage but y'know, its a thing. Imagine if we'd picked the militarist lizards instead, we might have bounced the population back rapidly but the education system would've been completely gone and need to be rebuilt from scratch with an uneducated population.
 
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Possible-Cannon Omake Operation Vengefull Storm
OPERATION VENGEFUL STORM

MISSION BRIEFING

BRIG. GEN. Oladan,

1. SITUATION

Approximately Three (3) months ago Lirrir representatives contacted Seelie Democratic Authority representatives relaying that possible first contact had been made with a new species. One (1) month ago, a Lirrir FTL ship arrived unannounced in the Authority's system. The new species, hereby referred to as ENY, arrived in the system with an invasion fleet, capturing space assets that surrender and destroying the rest before launching a ground invasion of the Lirrir's home planet as the Lirrir ship fled the system.

After interrogating the Lirrir crew about the disposition of ENY forces, High Command and political leadership has agreed to launch an immediate counteroffensive to sweep the ENY fleet out of orbit and liberate the Lirrir as to deny ENY a major population centre and restore an ally in what is now an inevitable interstellar war. Task Force Oladan will form the vanguard of the ground effort.

2. INTEL

Intel is extremely sparse to non-existent. The size, condition and disposition of ENY forces is unknown, but expected to significantly outnumber your own. However, they are also expected to be spread out and engaged in combat operations against local forces, and unprepared for our offensive.

3. MISSION

After landfall make contact with ENY, disrupt their operations and degrade their offensive capabilities as much as possible while preserving your own strength. Make contact with local forces and governments and encourage them to continue resisting ENY forces. Hold until relieved by follow up forces.

See the Space Support report for what support to expect from orbit.

Gods be with you, General.

High Command

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ORBAT

Task Force Oladan:

1x Manoeuvre Brigade
-1x Light Tank Battalion
-1x Mechanized Infantry Battalion
-2x Light Mechanized Infantry Battalion
-1x Heavy Mortar Battery
-1x UAV Company
-1x Brigade Engineering Company
-1x Brigade Support Battalion

1x Protection Brigade
-1x Engineering Battalion
-1x Military Police Battalion
-1x Air Defence Battalion
-1x CBRN Battalion
-1x Support Battalion

1x Sustainment Brigade
-1x Special Troop Battalion
-3x Sustainment Support Battalion

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The introduction of a hypothetical near-future war scenario following the exploits of Brigadier General Alanis Oladan and his scratch Task Force as they attempt to deliver a decisive counterblow on the ground to match the fleet's counterstroke in space. I'll see about continuing the narrative at least up to the end of fighting on the Lirrir home world.
 
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Thinking on it unless the particular aliens are bloodthirsty or the like, then don't see much reason why most aliens would be hostile to our Seelie since there's only benefits to being nice to them, like our guys live for a long time so make for good people to recruit for a variety of positions be it in government or private industry, and that our planet and economy is pretty fucked still so in a "good" position to really remember any help and gifts, anyone think otherwise though?
 
Well, any spacefaring state we meet will likely try to act within its own interests, as they see it. The issue is what exactly they think is in their best interests. There's plenty of reasonable reasons why a state might think its in their interests to wage war, wether it be eliminating or subjugating potential threats or competitors, desiring 'garden worlds' to settle in order to curb overpopulation, or perhaps ideologicap reasons to do the same.

To assess the 'threat' any other spacefaring nation poses we'd start by looking at their capacity to wage interstellar war first, and then we'd have to look at their politics, history and so on to see if they actually are likely to do it if they think they can get away with it.

One of the reasons im making the Lirrir an allied species in the hypothetical is because it is my opinion that the highly decentralised and fragmented political state they found themselves in as they reached the modern age, and therefor probably still find themselves in makes it highly unlikely that they'd ever declare an offensive war against another spacefaring species, at least one thats their equal more or less. Meanwhile in the omake the ENY have their own reasons for going to war that I shan't spoil, but its reasonable to assume that their political situation is very different.
 
True, still think that unless for ideological or bloodthirsty reasons that most aliens would be more interested in turning our guys into a Ally or a new highly valued component in there class pyramid multi species empire, is it wrong or optimistic to think this way?
 
Timeskip Turn 5 (27-32 AE)
Timeskip Turn 5 (27-32 AE)

Economic Results of the 5th Plan(WP-PDL Perspective here, rest PGAP):


A total commitment to building education has delivered massive results in improving outcomes and ensuring that the average Seelie can receive as much education as necessary. The pressures of the world before the revolution and the exchange may have encouraged a limited elite with knowledge but now the education has been distributed to the people. Standard degrees after eight years of mandatory study followed by two to six years of specialized study are soon to be universally available delivering the promise of universal education that has time and time again been de-prioritized. Now there will be no lost generation from the exchange and the children born today will have an unimaginable chance for prosperity.

In the largest changes in the last few years, the passage of a universal aid program administered by the government has been hailed as everything from destroying the private sector to the end of capitalist pressure. In practice, it has guaranteed a bare minimal floor to every Seelie on the planet if not exactly in the desired locations for most. For the first time in existence, work can be a liberating technically optional activity rather than something existential and constant. Compared to those who called the policy the end of the workforce, the minimal provisions for survival have not been attractive to anyone remotely willing to work. A portion of the labor force has moved to part-time labor with an accompanying drop in production but that was more than expected.

The fourth industrial revolution was believed to be the start of automation technologies but their pre-war scope has consistently been limited by both capital and issues in hardware. With increasing investment in electronics and consistent pressure to reduce the tasks that workers need to do combined with improvements in machine learning continuous progress has been made. Gate lengths of modern circuitry have effectively been shortened to sixteen nanometers with widths proving far more stubborn to reduce. Increasing yields across the older 2x25 and 2x20 nodes have still provided significant gains but those have been mostly realized in personal computing rather than server applications. Specialized AI hardware and cards have also entered the mainstream with massive improvements in automation and processing beyond the scope of any pre-war capacity.

Progress in the material sciences has been its technical revolution at almost the scale of the Second Industrial Revolution. Plastics can now be made for almost negligible costs and with a far greater length of polymers than ever considered previously. New metal manufacturing and additive methods with high entropy alloys deposited in thin films have gone beyond any expectation in sophistication and capability. It is no longer a question of tradeoffs with additive manufacturing but a question of how much of an improvement can be realized. There are still some limitations in high throughput parts and high ductility applications but those are expected to be solved in time.

Green power efforts have coincided with the partial automation of economic transactions. Massive state programs for increasing the prominence of green and nuclear energy have coincided with a general expansion of economic planning. The new systems have been core to construction and material sourcing, allowing supply chains to be made significantly more efficient. Further work on improving the new production lines has come alongside the program being operated through methods of economic optimization reducing costs and allowing for continuous productivity improvements.

Orbital developments have focused on the continuous expansion of the low orbital system with several dozen new shuttles built for the transport of personnel. This has coincided with major orbital yeards capable of laying down ships in hundred-meter-long sections effectively allowing section building on a frame for long ships protected by a shadow shield. The capacity has already been used for laying down a new generation of Dannan system ships with far more efficient drives and massive improvements in cargo capacity. Plans have already been drawn for new policing ships and craft capable of going further than ever before, effectively exploring the entire system rather than being confined to the inner planets.


Social Developments:

The close negotiations between the strong unified left block with the PGAP have forced massive systemic concessions to be given as the left wing defected against even more army funding all while rendering a coalition with the PPP impractical. This led to the effective appointment of several green ministers through the backroom deals along with a bare guarantee of majority for governance. Social policy was broadly given a total allowance for passage while fighting for more state-centric development was fought back in favor of preserving some aspect of the biosphere in the initial negotiations.

Positioning themselves as the only way the coalition would operate in any functional manner, the most immediate common sense legislation was massive funding towards a new environmental protection bureau with a broad allowance towards the minimization of impact. Despite the allocation of almost forty billion Or to the program for five years the sheer scope of the damage rapidly blunted any immediate optimism on the ground. Impacts from nuclear ordinance had effectively scattered entire nuclear cores onto the ground while the combined aspects of old trash burden and the starch have left wide swaths of ocean dead and lifeless. The contamination of soils has effectively rendered almost one-third of what was previously considered viable farmland too polluted for deep-rooted agriculture.

This has only followed a new phase in the starch contamination of the oceans as some of the material has reached a sufficient film-like layer to prove resistant to turnover. Fairly rapidly the starch has accelerated in rotting, forming turgid large masses in the ocean and proving resistant to both predators and anything else alive in the area. Lacking oxygen exchange from the formation of biofilms has killed most sealife in equatorial zones with few air-breathing exceptions that died later from lack of food. Northern seas have been spared some of the issues with the freeze serving to disrupt film formation and allow the steady introduction of oxygen effectively preserving tiny stocks that were severely damaged by over-fishing.

Three more hyper cane impacts have occurred, with two cutting through more remote areas with a moderate degree of casualties while one instead hit a small town head-on, destroying four thousand homes and effectively removing the settlement from existence. Casualties have only been in the thousands due to shelters and a favorable location for following flood waters but the phenomenon is expected to continue. Hurricane numbers have continued to increase with over four hundred storms in the last five years, most of greater intensity and well outside the normal belts. Heat waves in the summers have led to casualties but few fatalities, as fatigue can be worked around to a point. Compared to the best guesses of pre-industrial and pre-colonization temperatures the planet has warmed by almost four degrees with few slowdowns.

Effective government hostage-taking towards fixing the issues by the Greens and to an extent the voters after a news environment dominated by constant ecological disasters has spurned action with a combined agenda made for the new plan on how to address the crisis. Priorities rest in the addressing of massive increases in methane releases by decaying starchy masses on the ocean with a following reduction of carbon emissions across the board rather than continuing industrialization in the old model. Anything that is done now will come too late to prevent damage but the situation can at least be prevented from getting worse. The left coalition itself has forced an internal vote led by the PDL to unilaterally consider the climate the primary threat to existence rather than capitalism, with significant dissent on the left flank.

Socially, new policies and technologies have caused and solved several problems as the spread of social media and its associated problems have become endemic. Rates of youth hopelessness along with the old pervasive issues of political defeatism have cropped up in several areas of the internet to an almost greater degree than by the mid-war. Instead of the previous controlled sphere, a constant drive towards negative content has constantly colored views towards more negative ones all while unity is desperately needed to solve the problem instead of useless cowering. The internet is returning to its old spot as continued developments in networking have reached even the furthest corners of the planet, delivering at least basic content to everyone with as much as a basic computer.

Genetic engineering breakthroughs have only continued in the last few years as several poorly understood coding segments for appearance have been understood to an acceptable degree. Exact coding sequences for everything ranging from latent musculature to questionable adjustments to brain size are now possible. Compared to the old generations of genetic engineering programs a simple viral package focused on error-prevention cells combined with a selective disengagement of the immune system has provided immense potential for adult genetic engineering. Everything ranging from changing color to bulking well beyond the largest of old athletes is possible technically, the social aspects are however a massive thorny issue with harsh debate from all sides currently favoring a slow rolling of complete packages that are both proven to be safe and capable of being provided universally.

Continued observations of the Lirrir have severely adjusted previous assumptions on their state of existence as the full translation of seventeen discrete languages has provided a wealth of data when combined with what appear to be translations of historical events for a series of students. Previously believed degenerative diseases have been confirmed to be a strange facet of their evolutionary history as intelligence was selected for but conditions for the propagation of it or the long-term maintenance of it were not. This has likely come from the only several week-long seasons of the planet as there was far less demand for the preservation of critical knowledge in the early civilizational phase, allowing evolution to never develop a true error-checking mechanism.

In the most concerning news that has been produced by signal intercepts, it has been discovered that the Lirrir completely believe that they had an advanced civilization to which some great mythologized catastrophe happened. Their recent news and politics have practically been dominated by news of the discovery of an entire city complex built underground. The scale of it is also well beyond any reasonable hoax or falsehood with several governments sending groups to study it and report on it. Assuming this is not some form of long-term psyop targeted at civilizations listening to their radio signals it is almost certain that something happened to their old civilization that collapsed technological progress for what they believe to be anywhere from ten to fifty thousand years.

Politically a far better picture has been produced of the planet as more information has come in with it containing practically a thousand independent nation-states in some form or other. Most of the time conflict between them has been of a far lesser scale than the similar historical period on Dannan, as it is guessed that with portions of the population dying at exceedingly greater rates from disease and age-related degeneration, the existential conflicts over land and territory never formed. Instead, conflicts remained primarily civil outside of a few small-scale battles with a mild degree of casualties rather than more existential wars to secure food resources and compensate for massive difficulties in maintaining living standards under population pressure.


New Technologies(9 Tech Rolls) (Everything rolled as experimental or non-applicable skipped):

Enhanced Population-Facing Algorithms:
Advancing population-facing machine learning models has only intensified with the state operation of social media interactions. It is still impossible to make a model that cannot be distinguished from a Seelie in all circumstances, but that is almost within reach. Basic chat-bots have been refined so that one can be used with a focused set of goals and a solid general comprehension of information. Further advances in ensuring that models that fail can indicate a low-confidence answer, allowing for an improved user perspective.

FTL Tacheons: Combining a specialized method of particle physics, the interaction of W bosons in a strong magnetic and electrostatic field has managed to reliably produce several tachyons. These particles have managed to do a previously impossible interaction in conventional models of physics and effectively send a signal out instantaneously. Receiver infrastructure has only been built in another lab, but a basic signal was transmitted along with a narrow band data stream through a Morse-like system. Theoretical larger and more capable systems have already been commissioned, but they are not expected to be smaller than dedicated buildings and will almost certainly be limited in data transmission. (An unscientific carve-out of relativity in the sense of a privileged special frame that is nonetheless for writing what I want to instead of the more speculative science approach am taking with everything else.)

Basic Quantum Computing: Further achievements in computing have not come from shortening gate lengths or improving the density of conventional circuits but through the creation of dedicated quantum computing units. These processors can hold almost ten thousand qbits with some capacity for calculation, even if they are not relevant for most tasks that are better suited for conventional computing. Most of the units are useless outside of discrete applications in small data problems and low-level particle modeling, but the application alone is sufficient to drive investment in the field and push for improved models.

Improved AI Market Models: Beating out a capable Seelie at modeling in the stock market has already been done but current ML models can take behaviors a step further. Optimizing on direct data streams and using a model of learned behavior and information analysis correct market decisions can be made well in advance of the general public and most investment agents. The actual deployment of the technology has been limited to financial firms focused on optimizing the market with significant gains expected for the early adopters. At this point, people have mostly been removed from market activity with high data algorithms trained off interpreting behavior taking precedence.

Early Spaceship ISRU: Procedures for the in-space refinement of metals have rapidly been developed to further exportation and increase yields. Next-generation mining techniques in the form of total asteroid capture followed by pulverization and liquefaction under mild centrifugal forces have yielded significant gains in refinement and on-site processing. The next generation of mining ships is expected to entirely incorporate new methods, effectively breaking off chunks of asteroids before capturing them and refining them internally. Water off-gas can be directly utilized for propulsion and life support while more solid elements are left for further refinement, allowing lighter nuclear drives to easily provide sufficient transit reserve.

Genome Engineering: Taking a second look at the genome outside of the initial clumsy attempts by the old regime has yielded massive and rapid gains as transgenic applications have only grown in extent. Work towards tailoring physiological processes along with the specific location of genes responsible for appearance has effectively allowed an unlimited degree of modification. The forefront of the current breakthrough is a co-opting of internal systems of self-correction, allowing a specialized viral payload to infect large parts of the body along with the systems themselves with any remaining cells fixed to the new genetic package. Modifications ranging from more than tripling muscle mass set points to effective morphological control can be conducted, but most depend significantly on the degree of laws passed around them.


Commitments of the 5th Plan(30-35 AE) (Choose 15):

Civilian:

[]Industrial Desalination:
Reducing the scope of rainwater harvesting and letting some of it flow back into the biosphere is going to be painful, but given the rate of deforestation it is entirely possible that on several small islands, there will not be one as all water is too rigidly controlled. Fresh water demand is not expected to go down in any reasonable time-frame but something has to be done about producing it natively. Some additionally made fresh water can be transferred to the farms but the majority will go towards reducing the damage to the hydrosphere every emergency measure has done. (Increases Electricity Demand)

[]Nationalization of Healthcare: Even in its immature form the existence of private healthcare has served to constantly and consistently undermine the state system by allowing the wealthy to skip in line and consistently agitate for the misapplication of funding. Clamping down on the system has been called a mistake by some in both parties as something not worth the fight, but it is essential for equality. By consolidating all funding in the state sector and making it the only approach regardless of class the conditions for encouraging support for the system can be made, avoiding the flight of doctors and funding towards the private sector.

[]Development Grants: Enabling the smallest town to exist and modernize is going to be a major challenge but with the growth of new industries that can be done. Local power generation via effective subsidization of solar and wind along with on-site low-scale desalination for coastal villages can massively reduce impacts. Further work can be made on improving the energy efficiency of newly built housing, effectively providing significant tax discounts for housing built with a low carbon burden and a high level of thermodynamic efficiency.

[]Expanding University Access: Expanding funding for the universities along with a general increase of funding towards research can significantly help the general state of education. Work will focus primarily on social sciences programs that have historically been underfunded for candidate slots even if technical funding will comprise the majority of new grants. There are still some gains that can be made through further education funding but only so many university slots can be utilized without significant reductions in rigor. (Adds 1 Tech Roll)

[]Natalist Programs: Increasing the rate of births is going to be one of the most important long-term factors for improving productivity. Further actually providing the resources for people to have children is going to significantly reduce the rate of poverty in general. Funding will be allocated towards providing a monetary credit for any family or single parents with children under fourteen living together. Further, programs for starting daycare services and subsidized care for the youngest will be started to improve conditions as much as politically possible.

[]Distribution of Electronics: Remote work is going to be central for any transformation of the transportation sector as the internet has allowed for significant gains in productivity. Allowing most workers who do not have a mandatory reason to exist in office space can massively increase the density of operations along with considerable energy savings. The workers themselves further even prefer remote work over directly walking to the office, saving time and significant amounts of energy. Some essential office space is still expected to exist, but the vast majority of structures can be bought at cost by the state and converted into housing.

[]Further Hardening Programs: Increasing the scale of hardening with waterproof hard-points distributed into urban centers along with a focus on increasing resistance to strong winds and hyper-canes has proven necessary. Wind speeds and oceanic temperatures are only expected to increase as time goes on as the remaining emissions of the exchange persist in the atmosphere. A large portion of the methane is steadily falling out but the carbon dioxide remains, leaving the planet at an estimated three and a half degrees of radiative forcing. The situation is going to get worse before it gets better and hardening programs are essential.

[]Construction Initiatives: Expanding the program of construction with regenerative materials and a focus on reducing the immediate carbon impact of concrete through wider use of plasticizers enabling material minimization. New plastics technologies can become the forefront of the effort as scrap and garbage can effectively be mined for new construction materials. Work towards ensuring that they are used for the next generation of housing and industrial buildings will take some funding, but once it is developed and normalized the reductions in carbon intensity will be locked in.

[]Popular Modernization Drives: Mobilizing the workers to enable a general set of modernization along with funding community-level programs can help the workers and the environment. Direct programs for funding lower-level construction and greening with a focus on increasing green spaces can be started at effectively little administrative overhead. The main purpose of the program will be to expand parks and ensure that streets are far more presentable with zones of natural grasses expanded to allow for planting at minimal water use. For areas with little water access engineered very low water cultivars can be used instead, solving issues of soil retention and reducing perceived temperatures.

[]Garden Programs: Every citizen that has a garden is producing their food and helping to reduce prices for "luxury" foods. A focus on teaching gardening skills along with communal growth programs can significantly improve overall yields at little effective cost. Population density has significantly reduced at this point and outside the cities there exists space for significant low-scale agriculture. Local vegetable production has already been formalized at scale but a dedicated program will provide significant productivity increases.

[]Genetic Conservation Programs: Creating repositories of already extinct species will be a massive project and involve the salvaging of several databases and preserved samples, but it can still be done. A combined program of recovering the genetic diversity of the planet and low-scale cloning can start to recover populations. Once a sufficient breeding population is made reproductive rates can be tuned up for those set to be released in the wild and the next twenty years most species with existing genetic samples can be replicated. Work on some of the harder-to-recover ones will take longer but the simple cataloging and mass modification of genes should significantly increase funding for the genetic sciences.

[]Reversal of the Starch Program: The starch organisms are effectively direct derivatives of the bio-weapons program with effectively identical designs to environmental-production weapons, if with a different payload. Rationalizing starch organisms into ones that can safely be consumed by wildlife in case of escape and without significant differences to conventional algae can be done with some funding. Once those programs are complete and distributed, the remaining starch organisms in the wild can be killed with a targeted viral package, restoring the oceans and significantly improving oceanic oxygen access by disrupting the formed biofilm all while opening it to being consumed by fishes. (-1 Choice next Plan)


Industrial (2 Private Sector Random Selections):

[]Increasing Automation:
The production of improved automation can continue the elimination of work in the intellectual sphere. Comprehensive overhauls of programming practices to take advantage of AI along with improvements in methodology for most intellectual work can finally start the construction of an economy separated from capitalism. Hardware specialized for machine learning systems will be rapidly scaled in production to allow for entire offices to be replaced with server farms. Alternative work will have to come from social programs, but automation promises a total across-board reduction in working hours that must be realized. (+1 Choice next Plan)

[]Deployment of Quantum Computing: There is currently no application for quantum computing outside of selective improvements in encryption for military matters but the field itself holds immense promise. Technical work on producing more complex machinery and developing further techniques towards improving computing will take the majority of the time. Some have argued that the spending here is entirely wasteful, but the few problems that can be solved through quantum methods will be decisively solved.

[]Electric Shipyards: Modernizing shipbuilding for all but the longest-range ships towards a new standard of near-automated electric shipping can revolutionize commerce and massively reduce energy requirements. Barges are expected to be the largest beneficiary of the program as adequate energy supplies are available around smaller island chains. Construction programs will scale to adequate sizes to replace most smaller shipping by the end of the plan with follow-up programs centered around larger freight ships. An added advantage of the electrification of naval transportation is that comparative increases in electricity will take time to be felt. (+1 Choice next Plan)

[]Bio-fuel Programs: Modern algal programs have fed the planet but they can be tuned and transformed towards alternative ends. Using algae as a bulk producer of fatty acids can enable the production of biodiesel with few issues. The program will of course come at a greater cost than conventional oil production but every bit of carbon that can be prevented is a massive gain to production. The diesel itself will technically not be entirely green, but as long as it is replacing petrochemicals it will effectively reduce emissions.

[]Green Fuel Programs: Dual programs for the further utilization of carbon fuels have proven essential to reduce current emissions. Carbon dioxide production from cement plants can be readily captured and converted to methanol to replace extracted fuels. Independent efforts outside of that will be placed toward the development of increased ammonia production capacity as a replacement for conventional bunker fuels. It is relatively cheap and can readily be produced with clean hydrogen to supplement combustion systems. (Increases Electricity Demand)

[]Electrification of Industry: Pushing for increasing electrical use over fuel use is going to be a decade-long program at best. Starting programs to improve industrial production along with systems to eliminate the use of primary fuels in several industrial applications. New steel mills can be constructed purely with electrification in mind along with most heating being changed to electric heating. Some additional costs will come from the program but with just a bit of spending significant amounts of carbon can be avoided. The low-hanging fruit is going to be modernized in the current program with future gains likely to be slower. (2xIncreases Electricity Demand)

[]Transportation Electrification: The mass production of cars and trucks capable of running on electricity is going to be essential for further developing the industry. There is little reason to construct a vehicle that runs on gasoline or diesel outside of select naval applications. The limitations of naval nuclear power still limit most applications but work towards all other aspects can be done. Electrification of railroads on either a battery or centenary model can be accompanied by a far more general electrification of transit. A full greening will take more than a decade but there is little reason why it cannot be done.

[]Metal Recycling Programs: With metal previously assumed to be unlimited and easy to acquire modern reductions in mining and challenges with further expansion have rapidly limited production. Instead of focusing on expensive primary production several high throughput projects for the recovery of aluminum and iron can be started to significantly reduce the garbage burden and provide more construction materials. The re-processing of metals can also slow concerns of metal depletion and avoid destructive underwater mining programs.

[]Green Steel Production: Committing towards green steel enabled by increased production of hydrogen through water cracking can effectively eliminate emissions from production. A total industry overhaul is well outside the scope of current efforts but significant amounts of work can go into improving the yields of advanced green techniques. Reduction with hydrogen will further increase purity independent of coal grade, allowing some improvements in alloying to be maintained at little cost. (Increases Electricity Demand)

[]Agricultural Support: The production of millions of tons of fertilizers is going to be essential for the recovery of terrestrial agriculture. Preemptive fixation of nitrogen rather than reliance on plants can significantly improve the economy of agriculture by reducing labor. The majority of the program will center around the construction of several highly efficient ammonia reactors, ensuring a stable supply of materials. With improved energy production the new systems can be built with a mind towards green hydrogen production, cracking seawater for feed-stock. (Increases Electricity Demand)

[]Reactor Mass Production: Expanding the scope of the supercritical reactor program t further can provide a clean base-load for islands that can take advantage of it. The program itself is technically more expensive than renewable power but it provides a basis for the production of further fuel and offers reassurances to those doubting conventional green energy. Grid storage applications of batteries have made them semi-obsolescent, but if the facilities exist they may as well be built at scale. (2xIncreasing Electricity Production) (-1 if Increasing Electricity Production is not taken, further -1 for each unmet demand)

[]Mass Renewable Deployment: Photovoltaics alone promise to entirely price out most conventional thermal power even when ignoring the aspects of water-deployed wind power. A practically unlimited supply of power is available from the planet's weather and there is no reason not to utilize it. Continued programs for capturing the scope of green energy can accompany expansions in production. Assuming funding is kept strong between nuclear and more conventional renewables the entire grid can be moved to a green one within less than two decades. (2xIncreasing Electricity Production) (-1 if Increasing Electricity Production is not taken, further -1 for each unmet demand)

[]Return to Fusion: Building a cascade of five fusion reactors capable of producing several GWe will form a foundational aspect of the power grid and further improve access to new technologies. The cores themselves are expected to be used as power cores rather than experimental ones. Having a viable fusion model will allow for the continued development of the science, driving towards further innovations and making future cores as far more viable. (Tech Dice can roll Fusion Improvements) (Increasing Electricity Production) (-1 if Increasing Electricity Production is not taken, further -1 for each unmet demand)

[]Cybernetic Programs: New algorithms have significantly improved productivity and further work towards involving them in the economy can be undertaken. Automated systems of recommendations and some elements of pre-emptive logistics can start construction to further improve the functioning of the economy to a good degree of confidence. Automation on the planning level will effectively further simplify logistics and by entirely automating tasking systems massive inefficiencies can be eliminated. (+1 Choice next Plan)

[]Automation of Social Relations: With the availability of a practically unlimited stream of information work can be done to turn it towards beneficial ends. Instead of some form of surveillance program or systems to modify public opinion, it can instead be turned towards the social good. Automated systems can pre-emptivly recommend treatment for mental illness and antisocial behavior can be corrected at its inception. The negative effects on criminal activity can likely be similar to old programs allowing much of the increase in criminality to be reversed. (Increases Electricity Demand)


Military(Must Choose 4):

[]New AFV Manufacturing:
Committing the funds towards modernizing the ground-side army is essential to improving the quality of policing and training. Current standards have steadily fallen towards the mass use of trucks as many elements of the wartime army have decayed. Spending the money now will provide a means for maintaining vehicle manufacturing and preventing current units from getting worse.

[]Modernization of the Naval Force: The submarine force is the only valid deterrence for any interstellar attack as it represents a force that cannot be arbitrarily destroyed from orbit. Building several yards and commissioning a plan of four dozen missile subs will harden the planet and blunt any form of invasion with improved nuclear warheads. SLBM silos will be reconfigured to a triple configuration specialized in delivering independent warheads to a target, saturating it with x-ray laser bursts as sixty shots can be fired from every submarine.

[]Air-force Restorations: The commission of a new VTOL aircraft for most units with basic stealth technologies and the capability for independent launch from fortified complexes can provide a degree of rapid response capability. Low altitude operations with significant terrain cover along with the limitations of space-launched craft will provide us some advantages in protection, allowing for the selective penetration of a more advanced AA environment. Technical developments will still be necessary but a single new multi-role aircraft will finally allow old inventories to be replaced.

[]Dannan-1 Industries: Starting the wholesale transfer of production systems for both carbon deposition along high entropy alloying centers can massively increase the sustainment of the moon colonies and provide materials in a shallower gravity well. Shipbuilding and fueling around the greater moon can be done with few issues, relying on simple mostly automated shuttles to do routine flights. Electronics outside simple transistor circuitry with a low density is going to be out of the capability of any industrial plant, but compared to structural and mechanical elements control systems are a tiny fraction of the weight.

[]Orbital Laboratories: Starting technical work and testing in zero gravity is going to be essential for understanding the construction techniques necessary for future development. Large-scale construction of new hulls presents several challenges along with plans for the use of new alloys for mass minimization. By pioneering massive scientific complexes in lower orbit along with the construction of two significant cylinders focused around engineering test cases with significant telecommuting staff significant progress can be made for both colonization and exploration. (Adds 1 Tech Roll)

[]Expanding the Mining Fleet: Building another twenty-four hulls incorporating the latest techniques and based on high-efficiency MPD drives capable of ISRU refueling is entirely possible and viable at the current point. Each of the massive ships will be larger than any constructed before, practically mobile rotating massive bays for the wholesale processing of asteroid chunks through microwave heating. These ships should efficiently eliminate scarcity of conventional metals in orbit while stabilizing the prices of newly incorporated manufacturing materials.

[]Packet Return-Launchers: Setting up simple rail-launch systems in the belt with counter-pushing drives set to operate off of local water resources can ensure a timely transit of refined materials on the planet. Ships can stay in the belt for years at a time, taking on cargo and sending it back in a more convenient format than long burns conducted before. This will practically mean that communities and actual facilities will have to be established belt-ward. To an extent, this was always expected as populations off-world increased but it has only steadily grown more intense in recent years as a significant portion of metals has been sourced orbitally. (+1 Choices Next Plan with Expanding the Mining Fleet)

[]Large-Scale Habitation: The development of three new large cylinders in LDO will form the basis for the settlement of the orbit and a population base for manufacturing. Each of the cylinders will be constructed to the standards expected of merchant marine crews due to the ease of rotation to the planet. Once the program is completed and by the end of the decade it is expected that room for almost sixty thousand workers will be available along with the basis for starting zero gravity manufacturing.

[]Local Orbital Production: Placing a significant amount of dedicated industry in orbit significantly builds upon previous developments and will allow for the localized refinement of highly pure metals from retrieved asteroids. Developments will be combined with several plants for the fine refinement of ultrapure silicon and work towards improving the studies of orbital phenomena through the placement of several telescopes. As manufacturing capacity improves, it is possible to start the wholesale construction of a spaceship from almost entirely local components. (+1 Choices Next Plan with Large-Scale Habitation)

[]Going Further: Creating a class of four ships capable of returning Seelie to the systems gas giant and continuing a push to plant flags will produce few results but it will represent a massive technical achievement. Small scientific outposts that were evacuated or effectively killed during the retreat will be re-established along with plans to go even further. Several small objects well outside the ice line can be explored with flags planted and exploration televised. Economic return is not expected in any factor but the sheer technical achievement will demonstrate that we have finally exceeded the pre-war government in all measures.


32 AE Elections(Pick One):

[]Green Progress: Working with the more reasonable sectors of the right-wing towards some of their economic policies will allow the widest degree of compromise on green policy. The PPP can be paid off through several measures to improve the private sector and increase competitiveness while the BFP will almost certainly just request a higher degree of funding that can be afforded. Prioritization of funds will go towards local adaption and hardening with a massive priority towards the conservation of parks, old shrines, and a massive number of wild areas. (GP-PPP-BFP)

[]Green Progressives:
With the separation of the left and the general problems both factions currently have working with each other, the more democratic party can be a coalition. Working with the PPP from a position of strength will allow for several compromises in ecological policy that are hard to win from anyone else, enabling actual deep structural reform to be passed. Cooperation with the PDL will come in the form of subsidies for workers and ensuring that too many are not displaced in the transition continuing the economy with some mild costs. (GP-PPP-PDL)

[]Green Right:
Accepting the PPP conception that the PSC can be fairly trivially led around has its risks. However, forming an actual coalition with them could allow for a considerable amount of the agenda to pass. Several local laws will likely have to be compromised but the PSC has frankly minimal demands for entering a coalition likely from not being in government for so long. Restoring some figures from the past and launching an official re-evaluation is a tiny cost for preserving the species. The PPP itself will need some economic concessions as the second major partner but that can be provided at little cost. (GP-PPP-PSC)


12-Hour Moratorium, Vote by Plan (This is the last post before the sequel, results will be posted along with a link to the sequel, thank you for the fun post nuclear war triage even if it was not intended.)
 
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Tachyons huh? The first rumbles of FTL travel technology?
I gave a 'funny' reaction when you first posted then, then the update dropped and it turns out we DID actually completely fuck the non-polar oceans. And turned them into a planet-sized methane seep. Ugh.

And we definitely need to double down on both hardening and green power. These hurricanes are getting nasty.
This has likely come from the only several week-long seasons of the planet as there was far less demand for the preservation of critical knowledge in the early civilizational phase, allowing evolution to never develop a true error-checking mechanism.
I don't understand this sentence - what does "only several week-long seasons" mean and why would it discourage preservation of knowledge?
[]Cybernetic Programs: New algorithms have significantly improved productivity and further work towards involving them in the economy can be undertaken. Automated systems of recommendations and some elements of pre-emptive logistics can start construction to further improve the functioning of the economy to a good degree of confidence. Automation on the planning level will effectively further simplify logistics and by entirely automating tasking systems massive inefficiencies can be eliminated. (+1 Choice next Plan)
aaaaaaaaaagh no the spirit of Voznesensky has come to haunt us across time and space!
Well, it does seem a decent option, if at the upper limit of how much AI government I'm comfortable with.
[]Automation of Social Relations: With the availability of a practically unlimited stream of information work can be done to turn it towards beneficial ends. Instead of some form of surveillance program or systems to modify public opinion, it can instead be turned towards the social good. Automated systems can pre-emptivly recommend treatment for mental illness and antisocial behavior can be corrected at its inception. The negative effects on criminal activity can likely be similar to old programs allowing much of the increase in criminality to be reversed. (Increases Electricity Demand)
This on the other hand can go buzz right off. It's basically trying to use the power of the metaphorical One Ring that is the Panopticon for good rather than evil. Too much potential for abuse, and even in principle I don't like the idea of letting an incomprehensible algorithm determine who needs "fixing". One wonders how broadly "antisocial behavior" will be interpreted...
Military(Must Choose 4):
These bastards just get hungrier and hungrier!
 
I want to actually do more than 4 Military programs this timeskip.

A bunch of space stuff

And at least one of AFVs/Navy/Air Force, as, in Stellaris terms, it would really suck to not have Ground Armies when we end up needing them

I don't understand this sentence - what does "only several week-long seasons" mean and why would it discourage preservation of knowledge?
Probably an extremely fast orbital period- Winters that last a month instead of three. And the latter just seems like grasping at straws for explanation.
 
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I mean they are not totally wrong direction? Except its for the development civilization rather than general intelligence.
 
[]Plan Cutting Carbon, Space Focus
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:
-[]Electric Shipyards:
-[]Electrification of Industry:
-[]Transportation Electrification:
-[]Reactor Mass Production:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment
-[]Cybernetic Programs
-[]Expanding the Mining Fleet:
-[]Packet Return-Launchers:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:

This is a fairly monofocused plan that trades comforts for two things: reducing emissions and economic growth (to help continue funding expensive modernisation that reduce emissions, and to make sure we dont get labeled with the degrowth thing which would fuck the greens up bad). With Aid Programs providing a floor for civilians im quite content with this plan.

For the specifics, I have 1 choice that tackles hardening, 3 choices that preserve/starts restoring the biosphere and 6 choices focused on reducing carbon emissions. Im addition the economy is still gonna grow a staggering +4 choices assuming the private sector doesnt hit a double power demand in which case there'll be a temporary slowdown of growth to 'just' +2 options in return for even faster progress towards becoming carbon neutral.

I feel bad ignoring bote but we did all the work setting up the groundwork for space so I simply cant resist taking advantage of it. We'll have to make a note in the sequel to be consistent about procurement for groundside forces.
 
Starting Fusion again would probably be good long term, for better spaceship power plants.
 
We don't have to stick to the absolute minimum military spending, and I do want to spend something on the *actual military*, and not just space stuff in a hat.

Trading out transport electrification for new AFV manufacturing- Given that we haven't built any new combat vehicles in 20 years after the apocalypse- Will soften the blow of How Do We Military Procurement Anyway after this last timeskip turn.

Also, I want to enable future fusion work, so Reactor Mass Production gets changed out for Return to Fusion. With 3 electricity demand and 3 electricity improvements, we might be moderately wounded if the private industry picks are intensive but I am willing to take the risk to advance the technology.

[] Measured Greening
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:
-[]Electrification of Industry:
-[]Electric Shipyards
-[]Return to Fusion:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment
-[]Cybernetic Programs
-[]Expanding the Mining Fleet:
-[]Packet Return-Launchers:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:
-[]New AFV Manufacturing:
 
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[] Plan: Militant Ecology+Economy
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:

-[]Electric Shipyards:
-[]Reactor Mass Production:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment:
-[]Cybernetic Programs:

-[]New AFV Manufacturing:
-[]Modernization of the Naval Force:
-[]Dannan-1 Industries:
-[]Expanding the Mining Fleet:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:

A plan to do a bunch of Green things and put our military in a much better position for when we take control of them immediately after this.

For the latter, I picked up some of the procurement options that we have left hanging for ~15 Dannan years now so we aren't stuck with entirely outdated and falling apart equipment across the board. The ones I picked were the ones I felt were more important, the emergency anti-orbit system if we lose our fleet and can't keep them away, and our ways to actually fight on the ground if enemy troops are landed with the modern AFV to stay mechanized instead of motorized.

The other 4 options in that section are working on our space economy, with orbital habs+production, Dannan-1 industries, and a better mining fleet. I was considering the packet launchers to go with the miners instead of moon industry, but I felt that building a lot of our industry within easy reach of each other, alongside getting HEA production going in a shallower gravity well and reducing the upkeep needed for our moon colony we'll be responsible for, is worth it. Very long term habituation out in the belts and beyond can be the next big thing we push for as the military in the sequel.

The ecosystem actions taken are making lots of clean water so we can stop stealing as much of the rain from the biosphere in places, more hardening for the next batch of hypercanes and heatwaves, better concrete for less pollution, trying to clone dead species to bring them back, killing the starch, and a big rollout of even more nuclear and renewables.

There is some planet-bound economic growth too with the Electric Shipyards and Cybernetics, but a lot of my picks in the Industrial options were based around Energy Demand and the Private Sector Gacha. I'm making 4 Production from Nuclear and Renewables, with 1 eaten by default and 1 by Desalination leaving 2 free before we have problems. If I took Electrification of Industry we'd be full up and have 4 options in the gacha that hurt us if they get rolled, and two chances to get any of them. As I took none of the Industry Demand options instead there is 2 Production remaining, meaning that while we have 5 options that give Demand we can absorb rolling any of those 5 once or 4 of them twice without any issues. Which given that is almost half of the 11 Industrial options I didn't choose, I think that's rather good since there would be a significant chance we roll at least 1 of them. I could take Fusion too for that extra generation, but I would rather not drop even further below 2/15 choices for non-power production Industrial.

I'm considering Green Progress to put the BFP back in government to better give us their ear for at least the beginning of next quest, but I'm open to being convinced for Green Progressives.
 
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Tachyons huh? The first rumbles of FTL travel technology?

I gave a 'funny' reaction when you first posted then, then the update dropped and it turns out we DID actually completely fuck the non-polar oceans. And turned them into a planet-sized methane seep. Ugh.
I really do think we need to kill the starch, but I'm pretty sure this was obvious?

If it was going to go away on its own, it wouldn't have taken 20-30 years after the nuclear exchange to do so.


I want to actually do more than 4 Military programs this timeskip.

A bunch of space stuff

And at least one of AFVs/Navy/Air Force, as, in Stellaris terms, it would really suck to not have Ground Armies when we end up needing them
I sympathize, but we have so much to do to unfuck the planet.

I mean they are not totally wrong direction? Except its for the development civilization rather than general intelligence.
Mesopotamia has seasons, but they're nowhere near as pronounced as in, say, northern France. And yet civilization emerged in the former, not the latter. We can make similar observations about India...

[]Plan Cutting Carbon, Space Focus
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:
-[]Electric Shipyards:
-[]Electrification of Industry:
-[]Transportation Electrification:
-[]Reactor Mass Production:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment
-[]Cybernetic Programs
-[]Expanding the Mining Fleet:
-[]Packet Return-Launchers:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:

This is a fairly monofocused plan that trades comforts for two things: reducing emissions and economic growth (to help continue funding expensive modernisation that reduce emissions, and to make sure we dont get labeled with the degrowth thing which would fuck the greens up bad). With Aid Programs providing a floor for civilians im quite content with this plan.

For the specifics, I have 1 choice that tackles hardening, 3 choices that preserve/starts restoring the biosphere and 6 choices focused on reducing carbon emissions. Im addition the economy is still gonna grow a staggering +4 choices assuming the private sector doesnt hit a double power demand in which case there'll be a temporary slowdown of growth to 'just' +2 options in return for even faster progress towards becoming carbon neutral.

I feel bad ignoring bote but we did all the work setting up the groundwork for space so I simply cant resist taking advantage of it. We'll have to make a note in the sequel to be consistent about procurement for groundside forces.
I can work with something like this. I'm not entirely sure how the power budget stuff works at the moment, but it ticks all the boxes I'm sure are needed.
 
I sympathize, but we have so much to do to unfuck the planet.
I don't think this should be surprising for anyone, but it has been said in the discord that we're going to be having fun in the next quest if we swap over to controlling the military without any of the procurement actions. While we've given the military a bunch of civilian disaster relief duties and ships for space mining, we haven't given them anything new post-exchange besides a new infantry gun+kit mid timeskip and a "deeply suboptimal even for its original goals" dual use army truck. So basically all of the metal and airframes we have are the pre-exchange models that survived both the war, and then almost 5 elf years as really poorly done mothballs stored out in the open to rust and be stripped for parts. The AFV manufacturing option doesn't even talk about making a new one anymore like it did in turn 3 so much as it's emphasizing maintaining manufacturing and just preventing the situation from getting worse.

I can work with something like this. I'm not entirely sure how the power budget stuff works at the moment, but it ticks all the boxes I'm sure are needed.
Power budget is basically that we need to expand the grid capacity to keep up with growing demand, hence the "-1 if Increasing Electricity Production is not taken" part. So we need at least 1x Increasing Electricity Production to not cause issues due to not having enough power. There are certain options we can take that would increase the power demand even more, and are marked as such. So if they get taken, we need to have additional Increasing Electricity Production to match those as well to avoid any problems. There are a total of 7 "Increases Electricity Demand" tags across 6 choices this turn, and there are 5 "Increasing Electricity Production" tags across 3 choices. So counting the one we need by default, if we take every Production choice 4/7 Demand choices can be done without causing problems, less if we don't take every Production choice.
 
[]Plan Cutting Carbon, Space Focus
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:
-[]Electric Shipyards:
-[]Electrification of Industry:
-[]Transportation Electrification:
-[]Reactor Mass Production:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment
-[]Cybernetic Programs
-[]Expanding the Mining Fleet:
-[]Packet Return-Launchers:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:
-[]Green Progressives:

[]Plan Cutting Carbon, Balanced
-[]Industrial Desalination:
-[]Further Hardening Programs:
-[]Construction Initiatives:
-[]Genetic Conservation Programs:
-[]Reversal of the Starch Program:
-[]Electric Shipyards:
-[]Electrification of Industry:
-[]Transportation Electrification:
-[]Reactor Mass Production:
-[]Mass Renewable Deployment
-[]Cybernetic Programs
-[]New AFV Manufacturing:
-[]Dannan-1 Industries:
-[]Large-Scale Habitation:
-[]Local Orbital Production:
-[]Green Progressives:

Two variants now, one which econmaxxes in space and anothers thats probably a lot better that delays the mining fleet in favor of Dannan-1 Industries and AFV manufacturing since the army is getting desperate about that.
 
Modifications ranging from more than tripling muscle mass set points to effective morphological control can be conducted, but most depend significantly on the degree of laws passed around them.

Why would anyone other than conservative-religious fanatics would want to regulate this? Isn't this , you know , a thing that just makes everyone's life much better?
 
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