Towards the Future
- Thread starter Blackstar
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- nuclear war (war)
Will be fun to see how our peoples do to rebuild and other stuff, like can imagine the military will be a big part of politics still because how much they will be have to be used for non military stuff like helping the orbit command and other areas, and anyone else have the feeling that generally because of the nuclear apocalypse how a lot of stuff had to be abandoned or cannibalized to Jerry rig more simple stuff, that there technology will be built to be more easily repaired with unattended parts and more rugged as well?
- Location
- The great frozen north
This sounds like a good decision yeah. Might attract more of an audience too. This was advertised as the "space quest" but once the "rebuild after nuclear war" prologue ended it was mostly an exercise in wrangling a newborne Liberal Democracy with a small space minigame on the side, which doesn't get to show off the hard sci-fi stuff much.
Timeskip Turn 1 (8-12 AE)
- Location
- The United States
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Time-skip Turn 1 (8-12 AE) (Rest will be in five year increments)
The government's core has steadily changed towards that of the younger cadres with the advancement of socialism and the continued development of the people's economy. Ecological policies towards mass hardening have been passed with few arguments outside of the most committed Green's driving forward the message that whatever the remnants of the planet can throw at the people they can counteract just as well. Army consolidations of disaster relief have been both a necessary policy consideration to get the generals away from tanks and a clear sign of the current failures of the government to push the army away from critical positions. Giving away state institutions to the military is only going to make the future worse and deny any chance of advancing towards socialism out of a desire to make political compromises towards surviving today instead of building onto the future.
In arguably the largest victory for Unions across Dannan and a demonstration of the worker's power, if a workplace is considered majority Unionized, every new worker must by default join one of the Unions involved. This has already revolutionized the number of Union members and ensured that any new workplace will be dominated and practically operated by the People. This foundation has already led to several strikes against selective enforcement of the law and poor working conditions, with every strike bringing people closer to the development of socialism. The right-wing has of course called these strikes economically disastrous and damaging to the fabric of Society, but as long as the workers are not represented or listened to they are almost certain to continue.
Plan negotiations have themselves immediately stalled out due to the army's look at the next electoral polls, directly coming to the party with negotiations focused on passing some policy so that everyone is not overtaken by the literal Fascists. Some concessions have been granted with increases in orbital funding, ensuring a steady stream of personnel, and a continuation of some current recruiting policies that could be spun. Neither party leadership is happy with the compromise but the coalition has held together thanks to previous policy and as long as a plan commits some funding towards improving space capacity and maintaining the most important of ground-side capabilities, it should pass. This compromise is almost certain to come back to haunt the government, but better the army than a bunch of Galchobarists convinced that democracy itself was the problem.
Legislative common-sense reforms to improve the cause of the workers and increase the general safety of every industry have passed as non-controversial and non-problematic legislation. These have been combined with updates towards building codes and continued development of the people over the issues of previous administrations. Large-scale reform has been held off in favor of creating a plan that could be as flexible as possible in the interests of serving the workers, ensuring that the army itself could be fought off and the pace of development maintained. The preference for economics over massive structural reform has left the left wing of the party discontented, necessitating some internal concessions, but as long as nothing goes wrong everything should be fine.
Orbital development in the last year has reached new heights with the fabrication of independent drives and despite shortfalls in electronic production some tentative efforts for the production of new control systems. Immediate funding towards the construction of new shuttles for the sake of transferring payloads into LDO has been authorized as a logical factor to improve transit with the additional funding shunted over. Actual orbital and further construction are expected to lag for quite some time as the massive task of re-crewing the orbitals and resuming orbital production remains the primary goal of any program. Tentative Launch ramp construction started in the years following the plan, with the fabrication of new small boost stages taking up the majority of the time as printing the same components remains a massive technical challenge. The actual ramp itself has been comparatively easy to repair, with more expensive and mass-produced launches just a few years away.
Commitments of the 2nd Plan (Choose 9) (You have 1 tech roll by default, as your scientific establishment starts existing, you will get more rolls from the tech table to a certain point.):
Civilian:
[]Basic Housing: A home for every Seelie is a promise of the coalition and starting work on it now will almost certainly fall short of accomplishing it with purely new builds. Still, a visible effort for the massive construction of new homes for the people and committed campaigns towards modernizing the remnants of housing left over from before the exchange can serve to fill gaps. The struggle for housing people will be nowhere near done, but it will at least be mostly completed.
[]Water Security: Water was previously ignored and most islands cannot sustain any state beyond strict water rationing without technical funding and far more investment in rainwater management. Work towards improving civil infrastructure and ending rationing for domestic water supplies will be seen as a major victory no matter what it costs, and even if agricultural viability has slimmed, being able to take a daily shower should massively improve morale.
[]Education: Universal education is going to be essential for moving as far away as possible from the excesses of any old government and consolidating the gains of socialism. The promise of a universal eight years of education for every young Seelie is going to be a massive technical challenge that eats through skilled labor like nothing else, but avoiding even more of a lost generation is going to be necessary. The mere act of universalizing what was considered to be decent education pre-war and doing so without debt will be a massive improvement in social mobility previously unheard of. (Adds 1 Tech Rolls)
[]University System: Research and technologies may not give much in the current moment but the mere promise of some form of future and restarting advancement can serve to mobilize the people. Higher-end scientific research will to an extent be a matter of technical rediscovery and a constant struggle for advancement, but it can be done. Further resuming large-scale teaching of new subject area specialized professionals will allow a massive gain in productivity and capability in the long term. (Adds 3 Tech Rolls)
[]Healthcare: Ensuring that any trauma case or general procedural checkup is funded by the state, supported, and universally accessible will take a massive quantity of funding, but that can be supplied. Employing doctors in a centralized system is already effective in areas where they are practicing, but making the system universal will take a considerable amount of funding. Steady development of the healthcare system will also allow for future improvements, universalizing care.
[]Enviromental Hardening: Committing funding towards improving seawalls, providing cooling to areas that are expected to be most hit by heat waves, and ensuring protection from sunlight will not come cheap, but codifying spending now may save considerable amounts of money in the future. Even simple water management methods can preserve significant amounts of topsoil with few issues, allowing all but the worst rains and storms to be weathered safely.
[]Infrastructure Reconstruction: Building up massive amounts of cargo ports and starting the development of some new ports in areas where those fleeing the countryside settled represents a major use of aggregate and labor. The lack of heavy machinery and the steadily falling industrial base is going to limit what can be done now, but even then improving transportation is one of the easiest ways to improve the economy. Building new ships can also be funded, stabilizing maintenance losses and committing towards entirely reversing them.
Industrial(1 Private Sector Random Selection):
[]Electronics Drives: More advanced electronics are beyond immediate replicability and are frankly beyond any sense of mass production with the assets available. Working towards producing a massive quantity of integrated circuits with 32nm feature sizes will ensure that the most basic of devices can continue functioning, including most automotive and lower-priority applications. Bulk circuitry is going to be useful no matter what the feature size of the future is, and producing enough of it to supply the general demand will make sure that every citizen can start receiving computing power. (-1 Choice in Future Plans if not Taken)
[]Advanced Electronics: Building a five or three-nanometer chipset is beyond all but the best experts in the orbitals and some of those on the ground with the effective machinery for it all but nonexistent. The only bright point of developing new programs is that the knowledge and designs for the basic production machinery have been recovered and just need to be implemented. Starting work now on the production is expected to start yielding low-yield circuits at poor volume, offering near-modern replacements for the most essential of hardware. (Adds 1 Tech Roll)
[]Aggregate Industries: Massively increasing the production of basic construction materials and ensuring that easy access is there for them will be a massive industrial undertaking. Working towards improving the aggregate industry will take time and funding but it will be one of the most essential steps towards resuming large-scale construction. By the next plan, the effects should become rapidly noticeable as the industry improves and far more funding is available for even larger construction projects. (+1 Choice in Future Plans)
[]Heavy Industry: The steel industry was the industry that built the old empire and one that so desperately needed funding and modernization to keep pace with the demands of the future. Production of heavy industrial products ranging from tool steels to simple marging steels is deficient and only likely to get more so. Throwing funding at the sector will generate rapid returns in capacity, providing a baseline for other construction and stabilizing large tracts of development. (Allows Steel Demanding Actions)
[]Grid Stabilization: There is so far a degree of excess in the power system that can still be utilized but both spare parts and extra fuel sources are steadily expected to grow scarce over time. Committing funding toward improving access to fuel and the production of new components for combustion plants is expected to yield significant dividends. Furthermore, ensuring that the power grid is capable of supplying extra power will at the minimum ensure that everyone in urban and near urban areas has reliable lighting and cooking fuel. (Not yet critical)
[]Networking: The long process of networking back the nation and reconstructing the undersea communications cables will be expensive but necessary to restart large-scale communications. The internet heralded one of the largest industrial revolutions and it is almost certain to be essential for several tasks ranging from production management to simple scientific cooperation. Starting the building now will only provide speeds in the megabytes outside the most important facilities, but that amount of data is a massive step above the far more limited grids currently available. (Precursor to Several Projects to Improve Planning) (Adds 1 Tech Roll)
Military(Must Choose 2):
[]Dual Use Vehicle Industries: Trucks, dozers, and general heavy construction machinery have steadily been failing and reducing in numbers despite every effort to maintain stockpiles. Directly improving the production of vehicles will take time and the resumption of several industrial plants but it can be done. Constructing them all as dual-use and to militarized standards will also ensure a degree of ruggedness and if nothing else buy off several military voters that have advocated for further funding without excess negative consequences. (-1 Choice in Future Plans if not Taken) (Steel Demanding) (Counts as Half for Military Requirments)
[]Dual Use Shipyards: Constructing a new series of cargo vessels and the shipyards necessary to develop them will be critical to increasing trade and the direct transportation of goods. Most of the hulls that are going to be laid down in the first lots are going to be built on rationalized steam turbine-boiler systems that are far easier to produce and maintain. Increasing the scale of construction will assist in recovering shipping, though once the situation is more stable the military is expecting to use the yards for the laying down of new hulls. (+1 Choice in Future Plans with Infrastructure Reconstruction) (Steel Demanding) (Counts as Half for Military Requirments)
[]Modernization of Infantry: The massive conscript infantry force that has been kept in a nearly obsolete state for years is only steadily aging and going well beyond what it could be useful for. Instead of keeping massive numbers of personnel on call and desperately maintaining the oldest equipment, a new generation of equipment can be issued that can be readily produced. The largest spending however will come towards improving the training of those sent into the police force, ensuring that there is a minimal standard of education and escalation capability.
[]Restoration of Strategic Defense Command: The massive strategic lasers that blunted enemy missile offensives and burned themselves out in the desperate scramble to defend the country from nuclear attack. Reconstructing the massive installations to the same standards as before is going to be a major technical challenge but one that can still be accomplished. Building up the defense command in itself will provide a further tool to reduce space debris, using ablation to deorbit medium pieces of debris and offering an alternative system of space launch.
[]Nuclear Reactor Developments: Building some new nuclear cores will be a massive technical undertaking and transfer several engineers, but it will be essential for restarting fuel production and increasing power supplies. A rationalized simple light water reactor design has already been selected for mass distribution due to a compromise between low-cost operation and technical reliability. The initial plan will only call for a dozen new nuclear cores, but the experience created by the program can be used for a true civilian program along with building experience for further nuclear applications.
[]Orbital Development: The launch ramp represents the largest step for getting into orbit and solving any crisis of launch mass. The development of infrastructure in middle orbits will to an extent be prioritized, with the eventual end goal of completing the management of LDO by the end of the next decade. Further buildup of the moons is almost expected, with the development of enough mining for primary self-sufficiency along with the production of new propellent essential for the further colonization of space. Once current projects are complete then efforts towards the recovery of high metal asteroids can begin, solving supplies before any drive towards more expensive seafloor mining. (Precursor to Several Projects to Improve Orbital Development)
12 AE Elections(Pick One):
[]Continue with the Same Coalition: The current coalition between the left wing and the army is expected to be pressured but with a strong economic performance and maintenance of the coalition it has held off most challenges. With a second term, the priority has shifted towards dynamic reforms of governance to make it more appropriate for the workers and in general improve the durability of democracy. Policies focused on eliminating much of the advantage the oldest Seelie has over their younger counterparts while fixing the problems of the current system will take a massive amount of political capital that can lead to a worse future coalition, but without them, our young democracy will stay vulnerable to all of the mistakes of old. (WP-PDL-BFP)
[]Abandon the Left Wings: Economic policy does not have to be separate from social policy in ensuring the economy is growing as rapidly as possible is its own goal. Growing the economy will be the priority, but improving the social standing of minorities will also be essential for developing a state that will stamp out discrimination instead of tacitly allowing it to exist. These reforms will come with essential changes to the electoral system as some districts have already become nearly undemocratic due to constant strategic voting. The cannibalization of the left wings and push for their incorporation will be criticized harshly, but the political necessity of a more representative democratic system will be worth it. (PDL-PPM-BFP)
12-Hour Moratorium, Vote by Plan
The government's core has steadily changed towards that of the younger cadres with the advancement of socialism and the continued development of the people's economy. Ecological policies towards mass hardening have been passed with few arguments outside of the most committed Green's driving forward the message that whatever the remnants of the planet can throw at the people they can counteract just as well. Army consolidations of disaster relief have been both a necessary policy consideration to get the generals away from tanks and a clear sign of the current failures of the government to push the army away from critical positions. Giving away state institutions to the military is only going to make the future worse and deny any chance of advancing towards socialism out of a desire to make political compromises towards surviving today instead of building onto the future.
In arguably the largest victory for Unions across Dannan and a demonstration of the worker's power, if a workplace is considered majority Unionized, every new worker must by default join one of the Unions involved. This has already revolutionized the number of Union members and ensured that any new workplace will be dominated and practically operated by the People. This foundation has already led to several strikes against selective enforcement of the law and poor working conditions, with every strike bringing people closer to the development of socialism. The right-wing has of course called these strikes economically disastrous and damaging to the fabric of Society, but as long as the workers are not represented or listened to they are almost certain to continue.
Plan negotiations have themselves immediately stalled out due to the army's look at the next electoral polls, directly coming to the party with negotiations focused on passing some policy so that everyone is not overtaken by the literal Fascists. Some concessions have been granted with increases in orbital funding, ensuring a steady stream of personnel, and a continuation of some current recruiting policies that could be spun. Neither party leadership is happy with the compromise but the coalition has held together thanks to previous policy and as long as a plan commits some funding towards improving space capacity and maintaining the most important of ground-side capabilities, it should pass. This compromise is almost certain to come back to haunt the government, but better the army than a bunch of Galchobarists convinced that democracy itself was the problem.
Legislative common-sense reforms to improve the cause of the workers and increase the general safety of every industry have passed as non-controversial and non-problematic legislation. These have been combined with updates towards building codes and continued development of the people over the issues of previous administrations. Large-scale reform has been held off in favor of creating a plan that could be as flexible as possible in the interests of serving the workers, ensuring that the army itself could be fought off and the pace of development maintained. The preference for economics over massive structural reform has left the left wing of the party discontented, necessitating some internal concessions, but as long as nothing goes wrong everything should be fine.
Orbital development in the last year has reached new heights with the fabrication of independent drives and despite shortfalls in electronic production some tentative efforts for the production of new control systems. Immediate funding towards the construction of new shuttles for the sake of transferring payloads into LDO has been authorized as a logical factor to improve transit with the additional funding shunted over. Actual orbital and further construction are expected to lag for quite some time as the massive task of re-crewing the orbitals and resuming orbital production remains the primary goal of any program. Tentative Launch ramp construction started in the years following the plan, with the fabrication of new small boost stages taking up the majority of the time as printing the same components remains a massive technical challenge. The actual ramp itself has been comparatively easy to repair, with more expensive and mass-produced launches just a few years away.
Commitments of the 2nd Plan (Choose 9) (You have 1 tech roll by default, as your scientific establishment starts existing, you will get more rolls from the tech table to a certain point.):
Civilian:
[]Basic Housing: A home for every Seelie is a promise of the coalition and starting work on it now will almost certainly fall short of accomplishing it with purely new builds. Still, a visible effort for the massive construction of new homes for the people and committed campaigns towards modernizing the remnants of housing left over from before the exchange can serve to fill gaps. The struggle for housing people will be nowhere near done, but it will at least be mostly completed.
[]Water Security: Water was previously ignored and most islands cannot sustain any state beyond strict water rationing without technical funding and far more investment in rainwater management. Work towards improving civil infrastructure and ending rationing for domestic water supplies will be seen as a major victory no matter what it costs, and even if agricultural viability has slimmed, being able to take a daily shower should massively improve morale.
[]Education: Universal education is going to be essential for moving as far away as possible from the excesses of any old government and consolidating the gains of socialism. The promise of a universal eight years of education for every young Seelie is going to be a massive technical challenge that eats through skilled labor like nothing else, but avoiding even more of a lost generation is going to be necessary. The mere act of universalizing what was considered to be decent education pre-war and doing so without debt will be a massive improvement in social mobility previously unheard of. (Adds 1 Tech Rolls)
[]University System: Research and technologies may not give much in the current moment but the mere promise of some form of future and restarting advancement can serve to mobilize the people. Higher-end scientific research will to an extent be a matter of technical rediscovery and a constant struggle for advancement, but it can be done. Further resuming large-scale teaching of new subject area specialized professionals will allow a massive gain in productivity and capability in the long term. (Adds 3 Tech Rolls)
[]Healthcare: Ensuring that any trauma case or general procedural checkup is funded by the state, supported, and universally accessible will take a massive quantity of funding, but that can be supplied. Employing doctors in a centralized system is already effective in areas where they are practicing, but making the system universal will take a considerable amount of funding. Steady development of the healthcare system will also allow for future improvements, universalizing care.
[]Enviromental Hardening: Committing funding towards improving seawalls, providing cooling to areas that are expected to be most hit by heat waves, and ensuring protection from sunlight will not come cheap, but codifying spending now may save considerable amounts of money in the future. Even simple water management methods can preserve significant amounts of topsoil with few issues, allowing all but the worst rains and storms to be weathered safely.
[]Infrastructure Reconstruction: Building up massive amounts of cargo ports and starting the development of some new ports in areas where those fleeing the countryside settled represents a major use of aggregate and labor. The lack of heavy machinery and the steadily falling industrial base is going to limit what can be done now, but even then improving transportation is one of the easiest ways to improve the economy. Building new ships can also be funded, stabilizing maintenance losses and committing towards entirely reversing them.
Industrial(1 Private Sector Random Selection):
[]Electronics Drives: More advanced electronics are beyond immediate replicability and are frankly beyond any sense of mass production with the assets available. Working towards producing a massive quantity of integrated circuits with 32nm feature sizes will ensure that the most basic of devices can continue functioning, including most automotive and lower-priority applications. Bulk circuitry is going to be useful no matter what the feature size of the future is, and producing enough of it to supply the general demand will make sure that every citizen can start receiving computing power. (-1 Choice in Future Plans if not Taken)
[]Advanced Electronics: Building a five or three-nanometer chipset is beyond all but the best experts in the orbitals and some of those on the ground with the effective machinery for it all but nonexistent. The only bright point of developing new programs is that the knowledge and designs for the basic production machinery have been recovered and just need to be implemented. Starting work now on the production is expected to start yielding low-yield circuits at poor volume, offering near-modern replacements for the most essential of hardware. (Adds 1 Tech Roll)
[]Aggregate Industries: Massively increasing the production of basic construction materials and ensuring that easy access is there for them will be a massive industrial undertaking. Working towards improving the aggregate industry will take time and funding but it will be one of the most essential steps towards resuming large-scale construction. By the next plan, the effects should become rapidly noticeable as the industry improves and far more funding is available for even larger construction projects. (+1 Choice in Future Plans)
[]Heavy Industry: The steel industry was the industry that built the old empire and one that so desperately needed funding and modernization to keep pace with the demands of the future. Production of heavy industrial products ranging from tool steels to simple marging steels is deficient and only likely to get more so. Throwing funding at the sector will generate rapid returns in capacity, providing a baseline for other construction and stabilizing large tracts of development. (Allows Steel Demanding Actions)
[]Grid Stabilization: There is so far a degree of excess in the power system that can still be utilized but both spare parts and extra fuel sources are steadily expected to grow scarce over time. Committing funding toward improving access to fuel and the production of new components for combustion plants is expected to yield significant dividends. Furthermore, ensuring that the power grid is capable of supplying extra power will at the minimum ensure that everyone in urban and near urban areas has reliable lighting and cooking fuel. (Not yet critical)
[]Networking: The long process of networking back the nation and reconstructing the undersea communications cables will be expensive but necessary to restart large-scale communications. The internet heralded one of the largest industrial revolutions and it is almost certain to be essential for several tasks ranging from production management to simple scientific cooperation. Starting the building now will only provide speeds in the megabytes outside the most important facilities, but that amount of data is a massive step above the far more limited grids currently available. (Precursor to Several Projects to Improve Planning) (Adds 1 Tech Roll)
Military(Must Choose 2):
[]Dual Use Vehicle Industries: Trucks, dozers, and general heavy construction machinery have steadily been failing and reducing in numbers despite every effort to maintain stockpiles. Directly improving the production of vehicles will take time and the resumption of several industrial plants but it can be done. Constructing them all as dual-use and to militarized standards will also ensure a degree of ruggedness and if nothing else buy off several military voters that have advocated for further funding without excess negative consequences. (-1 Choice in Future Plans if not Taken) (Steel Demanding) (Counts as Half for Military Requirments)
[]Dual Use Shipyards: Constructing a new series of cargo vessels and the shipyards necessary to develop them will be critical to increasing trade and the direct transportation of goods. Most of the hulls that are going to be laid down in the first lots are going to be built on rationalized steam turbine-boiler systems that are far easier to produce and maintain. Increasing the scale of construction will assist in recovering shipping, though once the situation is more stable the military is expecting to use the yards for the laying down of new hulls. (+1 Choice in Future Plans with Infrastructure Reconstruction) (Steel Demanding) (Counts as Half for Military Requirments)
[]Modernization of Infantry: The massive conscript infantry force that has been kept in a nearly obsolete state for years is only steadily aging and going well beyond what it could be useful for. Instead of keeping massive numbers of personnel on call and desperately maintaining the oldest equipment, a new generation of equipment can be issued that can be readily produced. The largest spending however will come towards improving the training of those sent into the police force, ensuring that there is a minimal standard of education and escalation capability.
[]Restoration of Strategic Defense Command: The massive strategic lasers that blunted enemy missile offensives and burned themselves out in the desperate scramble to defend the country from nuclear attack. Reconstructing the massive installations to the same standards as before is going to be a major technical challenge but one that can still be accomplished. Building up the defense command in itself will provide a further tool to reduce space debris, using ablation to deorbit medium pieces of debris and offering an alternative system of space launch.
[]Nuclear Reactor Developments: Building some new nuclear cores will be a massive technical undertaking and transfer several engineers, but it will be essential for restarting fuel production and increasing power supplies. A rationalized simple light water reactor design has already been selected for mass distribution due to a compromise between low-cost operation and technical reliability. The initial plan will only call for a dozen new nuclear cores, but the experience created by the program can be used for a true civilian program along with building experience for further nuclear applications.
[]Orbital Development: The launch ramp represents the largest step for getting into orbit and solving any crisis of launch mass. The development of infrastructure in middle orbits will to an extent be prioritized, with the eventual end goal of completing the management of LDO by the end of the next decade. Further buildup of the moons is almost expected, with the development of enough mining for primary self-sufficiency along with the production of new propellent essential for the further colonization of space. Once current projects are complete then efforts towards the recovery of high metal asteroids can begin, solving supplies before any drive towards more expensive seafloor mining. (Precursor to Several Projects to Improve Orbital Development)
12 AE Elections(Pick One):
[]Continue with the Same Coalition: The current coalition between the left wing and the army is expected to be pressured but with a strong economic performance and maintenance of the coalition it has held off most challenges. With a second term, the priority has shifted towards dynamic reforms of governance to make it more appropriate for the workers and in general improve the durability of democracy. Policies focused on eliminating much of the advantage the oldest Seelie has over their younger counterparts while fixing the problems of the current system will take a massive amount of political capital that can lead to a worse future coalition, but without them, our young democracy will stay vulnerable to all of the mistakes of old. (WP-PDL-BFP)
[]Abandon the Left Wings: Economic policy does not have to be separate from social policy in ensuring the economy is growing as rapidly as possible is its own goal. Growing the economy will be the priority, but improving the social standing of minorities will also be essential for developing a state that will stamp out discrimination instead of tacitly allowing it to exist. These reforms will come with essential changes to the electoral system as some districts have already become nearly undemocratic due to constant strategic voting. The cannibalization of the left wings and push for their incorporation will be criticized harshly, but the political necessity of a more representative democratic system will be worth it. (PDL-PPM-BFP)
12-Hour Moratorium, Vote by Plan
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CrabMonarchy
Allegedly Dutch
- Location
- the Netherlands, apparently
A super basic doodle of a plan, with a focus on improving QoL and keeping the lights on. This doesn't really address the ongoing nonsense with storms and whatnot and unfortunately doesn't touch healthcare or education at all, but it otherwise more or less satisfies our electoral promises and sets things up for the future.
[ ] Plan Zero Imagination
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Infrastructure Reconstruction
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Heavy Industry
-[ ] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[ ] Dual Use Shipyards
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] idk fill in a politics choice here
[ ] Plan Zero Imagination
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Infrastructure Reconstruction
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Heavy Industry
-[ ] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[ ] Dual Use Shipyards
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] idk fill in a politics choice here
[]Basic Housing
[]Water Security
[]Enviromental Hardening
[]Electronics Drives
[]Heavy Industry
[]Grid Stabilization
[]Dual Use Vehicle Industries
[]Nuclear Reactor Developments
[]Orbital Development
Bit of a preliminary plan to get some discussion started. I'm not entirely happy with it, particularly not grabbing either Healthcare or one of the Education options, but I think Housing, Water, and Hardening are high priority options we should take this turn.
Electronics Drives to avoid backsliding and having less to work with next time, while doing the Grid now should prevent it from becoming a critical issue over these 4 years. I would have taken Aggregate for general improvements next turn, but we need Heavy Industry for Dual Use Vehicles in the next section, and having more steel should hopefully help in a variety of places too.
It's a little military-heavy, in that it's 3 when the minimum is two, but I wanted to grab Dual Use Vehicles to avoid the -1 penalty next time and that's unfortunately only worth 1/2. I don't think we need the shipyards right now though to go with them. Nuclear Reactor developments because IIRC fueling and reactor maintenance was becoming an issue for us recently. Last is the Orbital Development to start getting work done on that launch ramp AFAICT. I was considering the SDC though, given that it looks like it would help us clear our orbits a bit faster while also serving as another launch system.
[]Water Security
[]Enviromental Hardening
[]Electronics Drives
[]Heavy Industry
[]Grid Stabilization
[]Dual Use Vehicle Industries
[]Nuclear Reactor Developments
[]Orbital Development
Bit of a preliminary plan to get some discussion started. I'm not entirely happy with it, particularly not grabbing either Healthcare or one of the Education options, but I think Housing, Water, and Hardening are high priority options we should take this turn.
Electronics Drives to avoid backsliding and having less to work with next time, while doing the Grid now should prevent it from becoming a critical issue over these 4 years. I would have taken Aggregate for general improvements next turn, but we need Heavy Industry for Dual Use Vehicles in the next section, and having more steel should hopefully help in a variety of places too.
It's a little military-heavy, in that it's 3 when the minimum is two, but I wanted to grab Dual Use Vehicles to avoid the -1 penalty next time and that's unfortunately only worth 1/2. I don't think we need the shipyards right now though to go with them. Nuclear Reactor developments because IIRC fueling and reactor maintenance was becoming an issue for us recently. Last is the Orbital Development to start getting work done on that launch ramp AFAICT. I was considering the SDC though, given that it looks like it would help us clear our orbits a bit faster while also serving as another launch system.
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Jsyk, you would need Heavy Industry to do Dual Use Vehicle Industries, as that option is Steel Demanding. I'd probably shift out Grid Stabilization for that.
Yeah, I just noticed that. Missed it behind the big "-1 action" tag that caught my attention. I think for this prelim plan idea at least I'd swap out Aggregate instead, since I'm seeing that "Not Yet Critical" tag on the Stabilization action and not really feeling like I want it to get there.
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- Pronouns
- They/Them
In light of the need for electoral support, I would actually cut a action in industrial growth. Our electoral basis consists of the poor deprived masses of the post-exchange society, who are missing access to basic social services. Economic growth is a fine goal, but I think we should put a stronger emphasis on securing the basic needs, which in my opinion means picking 4 civilian actions. The urban population centres are still slums, threatened by water shortages and environmental disaster. Securing the remaining population is vital both politically and societally.
Once our living standards recover moderately, we can also focus more on stabilizing and growing the economy with a renewed mandate. So I would put emergency relief over a 3-3-3 spread, especially considering that private industry picks one industrial action independently.
[] Plan Societal Relief Over Raw Numbers
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[]Electronics Drives
-[]Heavy Industry
-[]Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Dual Use Shipyards
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
Predicted Choices of Future Plan: 9
Once our living standards recover moderately, we can also focus more on stabilizing and growing the economy with a renewed mandate. So I would put emergency relief over a 3-3-3 spread, especially considering that private industry picks one industrial action independently.
[] Plan Societal Relief Over Raw Numbers
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[]Electronics Drives
-[]Heavy Industry
-[]Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Dual Use Shipyards
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
Predicted Choices of Future Plan: 9
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This will only get us 9 choices, as Dual Use Shipyards only gets us +1 choice if Included with Infrastructure Reconstruction.
MordredRaal
Agitating
- Pronouns
- She/They
[ ] Plan For The People
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Education
-[ ] Healthcare
-[ ] Enviromental Hardening
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] Restoration of Strategic Defense Command
-[ ] Continue With the Same Coalition
[ ] Plan For The People (Orbital Development Version)
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Education
-[ ] Healthcare
-[ ] Enviromental Hardening
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] Orbital Development
-[ ] Continue With the Same Coalition
This Plan drops the Dual Use Military Options in order to get all of the Civilian options we desperately need. Losing one Choice next Plan, but hopefully preventing a bunch of societal crises
Our economy is gonna be a bit weak, but honestly this plan isn't taking that many less economic options. Because we need the Civilian options so desperately that every Plan is taking at least three of them so far.
(Edit: Added a version that drops Strategic Command for Orbital Development)
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Education
-[ ] Healthcare
-[ ] Enviromental Hardening
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] Restoration of Strategic Defense Command
-[ ] Continue With the Same Coalition
[ ] Plan For The People (Orbital Development Version)
-[ ] Basic Housing
-[ ] Water Security
-[ ] Education
-[ ] Healthcare
-[ ] Enviromental Hardening
-[ ] Electronics Drives
-[ ] Aggregate Industries
-[ ] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[ ] Orbital Development
-[ ] Continue With the Same Coalition
This Plan drops the Dual Use Military Options in order to get all of the Civilian options we desperately need. Losing one Choice next Plan, but hopefully preventing a bunch of societal crises
Our economy is gonna be a bit weak, but honestly this plan isn't taking that many less economic options. Because we need the Civilian options so desperately that every Plan is taking at least three of them so far.
(Edit: Added a version that drops Strategic Command for Orbital Development)
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I think I might actually support letting industrial growth suffer to get both healthcare and education. We're not playing the economic ministry in this quest, we're playing a socialist politician who desperately needs to buy a voting base and make very loud noises about all the new universal state guarantees to have any hope of holding on to power long term.
I think i am with Mordred on this while the economic hit might be bad and limit how much we can do next turn i think the narrative impact of getting all those institutions set up under a proper socialist goverment as early as possible is going to be important. While more lines go up will be good i think establishing a proper social life will do wonders for stability and long term undercut the fash.
I made a plan that attempts to get at least all the core state services running, but while I like Plan For The People upon a deeper reading I really don't like letting construction equipment stocks consistently fall lower and lower for 5 Seelie years (approx. 10 human years!). All the extra construction activity enabled by something like Aggregate Industries would have to be done increasingly by muscle power and shovels, when we've already nuked or starved or frozen 90% of our entire species I don't think we can afford to go back to shock labor battalions as our main construction tool.
So in the interest of maintaining our mechanized construction capabilities I reshuffled Aggregate into Heavy Industry for steel, and cut environmental hardening to construct the vehicle industries. Not having the hardening done for 5 years will probably mean we have to death with another natural disaster scandal or two but we'd probably kill more people trying to build sea walls and climate bunkers by hand than we would lose by waiting until there's secure machinery supplies.
There's a chance that the private sector gets aggregate for us anyways, and I think narratively we'll be a lot better off by not losing capabilities in the first place rather than tanking a -1 action for lack of machinery but offsetting it with +1 from cheap concrete. Even if the net change in actions is zero under both cases, offsetting loses through sheer volume of labor and production is a messier way to get 9 actions next turn than just slowing growth to preserve existing capabilities.
[]Plan Seelie Preservation Initiatives
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Water Security
-[] Education
-[] Healthcare
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[] Orbital Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
So in the interest of maintaining our mechanized construction capabilities I reshuffled Aggregate into Heavy Industry for steel, and cut environmental hardening to construct the vehicle industries. Not having the hardening done for 5 years will probably mean we have to death with another natural disaster scandal or two but we'd probably kill more people trying to build sea walls and climate bunkers by hand than we would lose by waiting until there's secure machinery supplies.
There's a chance that the private sector gets aggregate for us anyways, and I think narratively we'll be a lot better off by not losing capabilities in the first place rather than tanking a -1 action for lack of machinery but offsetting it with +1 from cheap concrete. Even if the net change in actions is zero under both cases, offsetting loses through sheer volume of labor and production is a messier way to get 9 actions next turn than just slowing growth to preserve existing capabilities.
[]Plan Seelie Preservation Initiatives
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Water Security
-[] Education
-[] Healthcare
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[] Orbital Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
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[] Plan Raw Numbers
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Water Security
-[] Infrastructure Reconstruction
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Aggregate Industries
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Dual Use Shipyards
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[]Abandon the Left Wings
Prevents all action reductions and gives +2 more actions next turn, for 11 actions total. That left 3 actions left this turn, one which must be Military. I spent them on Housing and Water since they're the most basically important items, plus Nuclear since we won't have the fuel to expand space operations without it.
As for abandoning the left, I don't want to do that, but it does seem to fit the plan best since it focuses so much more on improving capabilities rather than actual immediate civilian-facing benefits.
This is the same as Plan Zero Imagination but actually votable since it does make a politics decision.
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Water Security
-[] Infrastructure Reconstruction
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Aggregate Industries
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Dual Use Shipyards
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[]Abandon the Left Wings
Prevents all action reductions and gives +2 more actions next turn, for 11 actions total. That left 3 actions left this turn, one which must be Military. I spent them on Housing and Water since they're the most basically important items, plus Nuclear since we won't have the fuel to expand space operations without it.
As for abandoning the left, I don't want to do that, but it does seem to fit the plan best since it focuses so much more on improving capabilities rather than actual immediate civilian-facing benefits.
This is the same as Plan Zero Imagination but actually votable since it does make a politics decision.
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A plan based off Red Rationalist's plan. I switched out Dual Use Shipyards for Modernization of Infantry. I like the plan and will still vote for it, but at least mechanically speaking that specific option won't get us anything without developing infrastructure, and that's 2 choices for +1 next plan, while aggregate gets us +1 next plan for 1 choice alone.
Modernization of Infantry is a possible decent choice? Not useful for space development, but in increasing standards of living by making sure our police are competent? Might also help shift the focus off the military if we're not focused on preparing them (eventual) warships.
[] Plan Ground-side Focus First
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[]Electronics Drives
-[]Heavy Industry
-[]Dual Use Vehicles
-[]Modernization of Infantry
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
Now this is a similar plan, but I think orbital development would also be good and is also likely the smartest choice, considering this is a space quest and all.
[] Plan Ground-side, but with a Little Space
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Orbital Development
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
Modernization of Infantry is a possible decent choice? Not useful for space development, but in increasing standards of living by making sure our police are competent? Might also help shift the focus off the military if we're not focused on preparing them (eventual) warships.
[] Plan Ground-side Focus First
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[]Electronics Drives
-[]Heavy Industry
-[]Dual Use Vehicles
-[]Modernization of Infantry
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
Now this is a similar plan, but I think orbital development would also be good and is also likely the smartest choice, considering this is a space quest and all.
[] Plan Ground-side, but with a Little Space
-[] Basic Housing
-[] Healthcare
-[] Water Security
-[] Environmental Hardening
-[] Electronics Drives
-[] Heavy Industry
-[] Dual Use Vehicles
-[] Orbital Development
-[] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[] Continue With the Same Coalition
I rather like this plan actually. It gets us three big public opinion options to win the next election of Housing, Water, and Healthcare, and then throws Hardening on top of that to make things easier on us in the future. Industry is mostly devoted to preventing us from backsliding, but that's fine and we'll get a random extra selection in that section which can help us actually push forward. And Military has us rebuilding our stocks of heavy construction machinery, working on fixing the spaceship fueling issues that were cropping up, and putting work towards the launch ramp to fulfill our promises of fixing the ramp and more space lift capacity.
I'll be voting for it once the moratoriums up, but the one thing that I might consider altering in a second approval vote is Orbital Development for Restoration of Strategic Defense Command. That's not really because I would consider it to be better, but more that I think it could be a valid side grade as I could see the Military viewing their big laser sites as "important ground-side capabilities", and while it would likely get us less lift than the launch ramp, it would help us clear the orbits faster in exchange. Depending on the specifics of the launch mechanism, the lift the SDC gives us might also be Seelie-rated, unlike the lift the launch ramp would provide IIRC.
Edit: Looks like that's now.
[X] Plan Ground-side, but with a Little Space
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Environmental Hardening
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Heavy Industry
-[X] Dual Use Vehicles
-[X] Orbital Development
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Development
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
[X] Plan For The People
[X] Plan For The People (Orbital Development Version)
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[X]Plan Seelie Preservation Initiatives
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Heavy Industry
-[X] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Orbital Development
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
I agree with Cry we got to think narrativly about our choices which is why i think education and healthcare is so important. This is because we are the socialist party and if we want to do a deathrun where we do not splinter and possibly allow the fascist in on a loss then we need to show why voting socialist matters and a basic social system is in my mind the core basis of that.
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Heavy Industry
-[X] Dual Use Vehicle Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Orbital Development
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
I agree with Cry we got to think narrativly about our choices which is why i think education and healthcare is so important. This is because we are the socialist party and if we want to do a deathrun where we do not splinter and possibly allow the fascist in on a loss then we need to show why voting socialist matters and a basic social system is in my mind the core basis of that.
MordredRaal
Agitating
- Pronouns
- She/They
[X] Plan For The People
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Enviromental Hardening
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Aggregate Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Restoration of Strategic Defense Command
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
[X] Plan For The People (Orbital Development Version)
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Enviromental Hardening
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Aggregate Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Orbital Development
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
[X]Plan Seelie Preservation Initiatives
[X] Plan For The People, (Orbital Development, Academia Version)
Dropping Hardening for a slightly better economic position is also acceptable for me
Edit: Added @Vi'Talzin 's version
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Enviromental Hardening
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Aggregate Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Restoration of Strategic Defense Command
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
[X] Plan For The People (Orbital Development Version)
-[X] Basic Housing
-[X] Water Security
-[X] Education
-[X] Healthcare
-[X] Enviromental Hardening
-[X] Electronics Drives
-[X] Aggregate Industries
-[X] Nuclear Reactor Developments
-[X] Orbital Development
-[X] Continue With the Same Coalition
[X]Plan Seelie Preservation Initiatives
[X] Plan For The People, (Orbital Development, Academia Version)
Dropping Hardening for a slightly better economic position is also acceptable for me
Edit: Added @Vi'Talzin 's version
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Yes, but I don't think the difference in public opinion between Housing+Water+Healthcare and Housing+Water+Healthcare+Education is going to be big enough to splinter us or make us lose the election, while doing Hardening earlier can save us a lot of pain later.
- Location
- UTC+0
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They
Not doing aggregate while picking hardening and or housing seems like a bad ideia. Both actions demand a lot of it so they will either become more expensive, underdeliver or create shortages in other sectors of the economy... I think its an essential action.
And considering low birth rates, the long lives of elves and the fact most of them got educated pre-war its a lot less urgent than making sure those educated people already living make it through.
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Aggregate is a really good action, the problem seems to be just that unless you're willing to skimp on the civilian side it's competing directly with electronics production to not lose a choice next turn, and steel production needed to produce heavy construction equipment needed to not lose a choice next turn.
And that's another decent reason why education could probably survive being put off a turn. If we can get people all shelter, clean water, reliable healthcare coverage, and with food for bare minimum survival already covered by the chalk we should hopefully see our lifespans start climbing again, and with the possible ages Seelie can reach is starting school 4 years later really that much of a delay?