Through the Ages (Exalted CK2 Style Empire Builder)

[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)


Baby steps baby steps~
 
I wonder if we could trick the Immaculate monk into playing marriage councilor. If we think he's too troublesome, pretend we're a convert to the Immaculate Order and ask him to write letters back home to the Blessed Isle for a poor but virtuous Dragon-blooded who can marry us and aid us in giving our poor pagan people the enlightened help of a Dragon-blooded. There's probably a few Dragon-blooded houses that would jump at the idea of absorbing an entire country and it would keep this guy out of trouble.

Probably not happening, diluting holy dragon blood with peasant blood? A big no, even if her Redness did it once.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)

Hmm... are we going to be able to do any personal interventions with this guy breathing down our neck? Oh well.
I'm pretty sure we'll be able to ditch him to do stuff.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)
 
i am wrong. personal intervention on subverting the guy. possibly also matchmaking with one of ember's kids


[x] accept
 
I'd suggest checking out this Piety advisor before counting any chickens. You don't become a monk of the Immaculate Faith by being a weak-minded fool, and you can bet the head monk of this little Hunt chose somebody he feels is reliable and able to deal with the Anathema's corruption. That's kind of the point of giving the local potentate a Piety advisor.

I suspect our best bet is actually going to keep this Piety advisor guy as busy as possible, and give the impression we're incredibly busy as well to minimize contact, rather than spending the time to try to recruit him.
Not easy, no, but we'll have a lot of time (if we're lucky).
Convicted in the doctrine he might be, but how often has he dealt with a Solar slowly and patiently, over months (years), working their way through any personally-held belief (possibly with Lunar spyops feeding us info on how he's feeling at any given time when we're not there)?
All while convinced he doesn't actually need to treat us like a Solar, so no need to just flat-out refuse our arguments?
Especially since he is apparently supposed to be a student of this guy?

...Eh, just an idea.
But we should make sure to be on the lookout for any way we can screw over the Hunt.
 
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Now, that just isn't true. We are going to shoot straight to the top of their priority list, and we are going to get hit with the single biggest invasion force in the last three centuries, but the Realm absolutely, positively, cannot commit their entire military to wiping us out. They've got tons of other commitments, and if they pull everything out of everywhere they'll be looking at uprisings across all of Creation - it'd take decades to recover, even if we inflicted no notable losses. We'll face a big fraction of the Realm's military, maybe even an outright majority of it, but we won't face the entire thing, especially if we don't look like that's what it would take.
There is also the fact that we are not the only Anathama out there. There are plenty of Lunars running around, and they would love an opening.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)

This should definitely be useful, and it looks like we're having a great start to this chapter.
 
i just hope we have good enough piety options to continually put off converting the populace to the immaculate faith.

i mean, i'd be fine with the cloudrunners being put in charge, but not with getting absorbed by the realm.
 
Taking the advisor does, unfortunately, mean that they'll be watching us that much more closely. It might be worth it anyway, but I'm not altogether convinced that it is. I mean, if we can turn him it'll be amazing, but having him around might add that 20% suspicion back on and then some over the next few turns.
 
Taking the advisor does, unfortunately, mean that they'll be watching us that much more closely. It might be worth it anyway, but I'm not altogether convinced that it is. I mean, if we can turn him it'll be amazing, but having him around might add that 20% suspicion back on and then some over the next few turns.
We'll have lots of chances to keep it from rising, or lower it, instead of starting the next turn at 25%.
 
Probably not happening, diluting holy dragon blood with peasant blood? A big no, even if her Redness did it once.
It's not quite that rare an event. It's not done often and I certainly doubt we'll get offers from Breeding 5 but there's apparently a tradition of Dragon-blooded houses marrying their weaker blooded members to Patrician Houses for tons of money. And since as the "inferior," Altren would provide the dowry. I can see a few Houses offering a Breeding 1 Dragon-blooded who exalted at 20 years old, under the assumption that as the "superior" of the relationship, she'll have the entire kingdom as a dowry gift. There's a lot of embarrassing and useless members in the family that you can get rid of.
Taking the advisor does, unfortunately, mean that they'll be watching us that much more closely. It might be worth it anyway, but I'm not altogether convinced that it is. I mean, if we can turn him it'll be amazing, but having him around might add that 20% suspicion back on and then some over the next few turns.
My only hope is to make them trust us enough that we can somehow get them south of us to the Confederation.
 
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@Alectai
What will be the effect of having him around?
Will suspicion of us increase faster, or what?

Essentially, you will get Piety options related to stuff an Immaculate Monk would consider a good idea, public works--public schooling, basic literacy, and making sure you have a good and efficient calendar.

It also means that you won't get a lot of the more animistic deal stuff with particular Gods, because you're really not supposed to do that sort of thing. They're also approaching this from the Immaculate Order's standpoint--which is "Gods are meant to do their jobs, and not to make themselves known", and "The Dragon Blooded are the pinnacle of enlightenment prior to becoming one with the Elemental Dragons, and following their commands cannot draw you further away from enlightenment".

It's not... You know, inherently bad or wrong--it largely works, but it does tend to ignore the advantages of having personal relationships with the local gods, since they're not supposed to get more credit then a few nods on certain calendar days. It does guarantee a basic standard of worship for most Gods, but nothing above and beyond that encourages them to put in overtime.

Frankly, the setup in Yilali is Mostly compliant, as a lot of the small gods still get a take in the local tithes, so if you take the Piety Advisor, they're not going to run out and start burning things down because HERESY, but you won't get new options that directly try to get special favours from local spirits, just stuff that keeps them getting angry and showing it.
 
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Hmm, that's unfortunate that we can't do the personal interaction with gods, but the options we will get are nice so it's a small drawback overall.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)

I see this as a very good opportunity for us honestly- we'll accept it and then spend a whole lot of time interacting with them, giving the best impression of ourselves possible and hopefully even subverting them. Meanwhile, Neiya can be her awesome self and get things done.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)


Frankly, the setup in Yilali is Mostly compliant, as a lot of the small gods still get a take in the local tithes, so if you take the Piety Advisor, they're not going to run out and start burning things down because HERESY, but you won't get new options that directly try to get special favours from local spirits, just stuff that keeps them getting angry and showing it.

Also, I'd imagine most of the gods recognize that this won't be a permanent change, unless the Realm wins, and given they are immortal, will hopefully be willing to wait it out.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)

It really isn't a big loss overall. We may not get individual god relationships, but we never really did much of that in the first place. We can save that for later on.

Now Altran just needs to channel his inner Xanotos and get things more into his favor.
 
Essentially, you will get Piety options related to stuff an Immaculate Monk would consider a good idea, public works--public schooling, basic literacy, and making sure you have a good and efficient calendar.

It also means that you won't get a lot of the more animistic deal stuff with particular Gods, because you're really not supposed to do that sort of thing. They're also approaching this from the Immaculate Order's standpoint--which is "Gods are meant to do their jobs, and not to make themselves known", and "The Dragon Blooded are the pinnacle of enlightenment prior to becoming one with the Elemental Dragons, and following their commands cannot draw you further away from enlightenment".

It's not... You know, inherently bad or wrong--it largely works, but it does tend to ignore the advantages of having personal relationships with the local gods, since they're not supposed to get more credit then a few nods on certain calendar days. It does guarantee a basic standard of worship for most Gods, but nothing above and beyond that encourages them to put in overtime.

Frankly, the setup in Yilali is Mostly compliant, as a lot of the small gods still get a take in the local tithes, so if you take the Piety Advisor, they're not going to run out and start burning things down because HERESY, but you won't get new options that directly try to get special favours from local spirits, just stuff that keeps them getting angry and showing it.

Ok, it is less than ideal, but we will get two instead of one piety options per turn.
And it is just for this chapter either way. We will either kill him or turn him at the end of the chapter - regardless, we will do something else come chapter four.
And the reduced suspicion is a godsend.
 
[X] Accept the Offer (Permanent Piety Advisor secured, new Hero Unit. +1 Piety Action, Starting Wyld Hunt Suspicion at 5%)




Also, I'd imagine most of the gods recognize that this won't be a permanent change, unless the Realm wins, and given they are immortal, will hopefully be willing to wait it out.

Yeah, the local Gods have a good deal, they're not going to start rocking the boat unless they start getting dicked over--and the current setup is such that most won't, and the ones who might take a small hit are close enough in contact with you that they'll get the heads up.
 
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