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There was a Spi...dea. (Sony, Spider-Man Producer Quest)
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Hell yeah!
let's do it.
First of all, regarding the "child labor" plan... while its interesting idea to do younger cast I don't believe this is the time or place. We are Sony, we have one-shot to make this franchise work and we absolutely can't take unnecessary risks, especially as we got near perfect roll on our casting, we need to make this movie good, we need to plan for the expansion of the franchise but it mustn't come at the expanse of compromising on quality.
Another problem you may not considering is that "under-18 actors" are a bitch to film, there is a reason that many films and TV shows use adult actors to play teens, unfortunately there are "child labor rules" we will have to follow.
with all this in mind, and with the following objectives and priorities here comes the plan:
1) Objective: get the most talented actors that you can
2) Objective: chemistry
3) Objective: age and future planning
Peter Parker:
this is arguably the most important decision, the main Character. Unlike Marvel that has a lot of heroes, we only get Peter Parker, this movie has to be in the level of "Iron Man" to succeed in making this into a franchise rather than a movie.
We all know that Andrew Garfield is the logical choice, Personally I think that he is the best actor for Spider-Man. His jokes and quips lands, when he grief its feel real. he is very passionate about this role and he was one of the only saving graces in the abomination of the second film, even when he gets bad materiel he manage thru sheer passion to make Spider-Man feel alive on screen.
Charlie Rowe is awesome, but is way too young for this kind of responsibility, perhaps in future films, maybe even as another Spider man from other dimension...
Aaron Taylor is a great choice but honestly not as good as Garfield or Allen.
Alfie Allen is option that I spent a lot of time debating with myself about, he has a great range, in GoT he plays the young likable kid at the start, to the nasty person turning on the Starks, to Reek, to who he is in the end. This is a testament to Alfie's acting. He has had the unenviable task of portraying a character who never got to relish in heroism OR villainy, and did a masterful job of realistically toeing the line the whole time.
This is why I think we should ask him if he wants to play the Shocker, he really is a great actor.
In conclusion, Garfield (27) as Spider-Man and Allen (24) as Shocker (if he will agree).
Gwen Stacy:
Emma Stone is a great actress, she has ton of chemistry with Garfield and I loved her Gwen Stacy.
Emma Watson is another great choice, she is really talented and can make an awesome Gwen Stacy as well.
Shailene Woodley is like Aaron Taylor, just not good as the competition.
Hailee Steinfeld and Maya Hawke are too young.
Emilia Clarke is great, there will be chemistry with Allen if he will be the Shocker but that just a minor bonus, I truly believe that Clarke is the best option, you all saw saw her in GoT and you know that she can make this work
Lily James is a good actress, but I'm not familiar with her work enough to decide.
In the end its a decision between Emma, Emma and Emilia (lol) and I am a little more inclined towards Emilia, especially considering future endeavors like Spider-Gwen, but this is to the future
In conclusion, Clarke (24) as Gwen Stacy.
Black Cat:
Hailee Steinfeld, Maya Hawke and Sophie Turner are too young for the rest of the cast.
Gal Gadot will be a great Felicia Hardy, the accent can add more dimensions to the character, She showed in both Red Notice and Wonder Woman that she can play this type of character really well
Alexandra Anna Daddario got the look down, and her eyes would pop with white or silver hair... she'd make a great Black Cat physically, but there's the problem with her acting... and in other circumstances we might be able to take the risk, but we can't now, at least not with our first movie. She can always play Silver Sable or other suitable characters in the future.
In conclusion, Gadot (25) as Black Cat.
Flash Thompson:
not a lot of choice but I am a little more inclined towards Chris Zylka.
In conclusion, Zylka (25) as Thompson.
Aunt May:
Lena Headey can be a good choice for younger Aunt May and can have great chemistry with our Gwen and (hopefully) Shocker.
Aubrey Plaza will do a great work, but she is a bit too young, Garfield is 27 and she is 26...
Maggie Smith will be a great Aunt May.
Betty White is an absolute sweetheart of an old lady, and a good candidate for the role but a bit too old, she is 88 right now...
in the end its a decision between old or young Aunt May, and I think that in our case old May will make more sense.
In conclusion, Smith (76) as Aunt May.
Herman Shultz:
I hope we can get Allen to play the Shocker but if we can't this role should defiantly go to Daniel Radcliff, he has great range and I think that he can pull it off easily.
In conclusion, Allen (24) as the Shocker, else Radcliff (21) as the Shocker.
Marty Shultz:
Aaron Paul basically already play a similar role, and he is absolutely terrific. I can see him being the older intense brother that is doing crime but deep down is a good man.
it will come as a shock when we kill him because he got a pretty big name as we in the middle of Breaking Bad.
the other options are good, but I believe that he will be the best Marty Shultz.
In conclusion, Paul (31) as Marty Shultz.
JJJ:
while toying with the idea of Tobey McGuire as JJJ sound fun, there can only be one.
It's not even a competition.
In conclusion, Simmons (55) as JJJ.
Venom (Eddie Brock):
This role will be central to the franchise, and I feel like Karl Urban can easily take this role to great places, his work in "the Boys" show us that he can have range while also being a total badass.
Jensen Ackle is great, but not great enough to wait for him to stop being busy type of great.
Christian Kane is a good option, but this is really important role and we have to go with the best.
In conclusion, Urban (38) as Eddie Brock.
[X] Plan: The Best Actors
- [X] Andrew Garfield: He was a fairly young actor, but seemed incredibly interested, and passionate about playing the titular character.
- [X] Emilia Clarke: A young, but not too young actress, seems like she'd be a good fit for Gwen Stacy.
- [X] Gal Gadot: She has that feeling that she'd be a great Felicia Hardy, but the accent is a bit too noticeable... though, that may just be you nitpicking.
- [X] Chris Zylka: Though, this one... he looks like he could make Flash into less of a stereotypical bully, and into someone who could realistically turn into Peter's friend.
- [X] Maggie Smith: Yet another Harry Potter alumni, you'd have to wait for the final Harry Potter to stop filming, but then you could have her as Aunt May.
- [X] Alfie Allen: A young English man, who's also gotten a role as Theon Greyjoy in the Game of Thrones show that's to begin filming next month. You may have to delay the filming, when he's doing Game of Thrones.
-- [X] Daniel Radcliffe: He's definitely going to be busy with filming the last Harry Potter movie, but after that... he's going to be totally free as The Shocker.
-[X] Aaron Paul: He seems able to become an incredibly intense person, for the role of Marty, and you might just need that intensity.
-[X] JK Simmons: It's motherfucking JK Simmons, were you really going to pass him up?
-[X] Karl Urban: He seems like he'd be able to portray the 'tough guy' part of Eddie Brock exceptionally well.
Fluffy_serpent
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you convinced me
you convinced me
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I'm going with this as well. We got super fucking lucky to get these guys, it'd be stupid not to use them.
I'm going with this as well. We got super fucking lucky to get these guys, it'd be stupid not to use them.
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You make fantastic points for the casting and I won't disagree.
As someone who watches an extensive amount of films (both small independent films to massive blockbusters) I can say that I have seen each casting option available to us and I have faith in each one's abilities and acting chops.
Just remember to make a sacrifice to Dice Dormammu.
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BTW just some ideas I have about the future of Sony:
I thought that the first Phase could be about Spider-Man, his enemies, life, but mainly conflicts that has to do with his Spider-Man side of thing. Yes, to make a good Spider-Man movie you have to find a balance between Peter Parker and Spider-Man (and arguably that is the most interesting part of his stories), but the first phase should emphasize the Spider-Man aspect.
I find it interesting that thru out the Arc Spider-Man will suffer more and more until the end of the Arc (Phase) when Spider-Man "Dies", and Peter decide to give up after saving the day, perhaps to marry Gwen and retire from super-heroics.
Then the second phase can start with some kind of trilogy that focus on the "death" of Peter Parker
Then we can have a Superior Spider-Man movie together with another Black Cat movie, Agent Venom (Flash Thompson) movie, and maybe even a Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman) movie... maybe they are beginning to investigate why "Peter" behave so strangely.
I thought that the first Phase could be about Spider-Man, his enemies, life, but mainly conflicts that has to do with his Spider-Man side of thing. Yes, to make a good Spider-Man movie you have to find a balance between Peter Parker and Spider-Man (and arguably that is the most interesting part of his stories), but the first phase should emphasize the Spider-Man aspect.
I find it interesting that thru out the Arc Spider-Man will suffer more and more until the end of the Arc (Phase) when Spider-Man "Dies", and Peter decide to give up after saving the day, perhaps to marry Gwen and retire from super-heroics.
Then the second phase can start with some kind of trilogy that focus on the "death" of Peter Parker
Then we can have a Superior Spider-Man movie together with another Black Cat movie, Agent Venom (Flash Thompson) movie, and maybe even a Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman) movie... maybe they are beginning to investigate why "Peter" behave so strangely.
Fluffy_serpent
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Yes, I like it, it sounds good.
But, I just want to add that because of how we made the shocker, it will be a character of relative relevance, so I think you would have to change things to give it something more importance (change the members of the sinister six a bit, putting shocker as member or "leader")
Yeah!
That's a great point
Anyway it's just some rudimentary ideas, another thing we will probably need to decide is when and if to introduce Mary Jane, and almost everything can change if we succeed enough and manage to get rights to other characters
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Fluffy_serpent
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Are we sure to include so many villains in one movie?
one of the failures of amazing spiderman 2 and spiderman 3 was putting in too many villains and not finishing developing any of them and trying to balance everyone's screen time?
I know that it is also risky but we could take a harry potter and divide the film into two parts (I would not say to make a very long one since the original already lasted 2h 22min)
in the sinister six it is not so much a problem since in previous films we already developed characters and everything.
edit: I mean what would be Spider-Man 2
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A Sandman movie could also be interesting.
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Exactly! We could flip entire character dynamics on their heads.
For some reason, I'm imagining a Kraven The Hunter origin movie, all about the titular character hunting increasingly large game, until he finds out about the Spider-Man.
Not much of an idea, but someone could probably make a pitch based off of it.
We might need to do it.
A bit into the rationale behind it, I think that the final movie of the phase should be the S6, and we can do some sort of "inverse" avengers where spiderman fights against each villain in a movie before they all come together to stop him.
We can't make 6 movies and then do S6 (I mean we can, but it's a bit boring) so I thought it will be fun to interdouce Mysterio in a Black Cat movie (and making female-lead superhero movie before marvel and DC is great) and perhaps interdouce Kraven just before S6, (In the comics "Hunted" is when Kraven jail toghther all the "animals" heros and villains in central park and hunt them) I think it will be really fun base for movie
To do all that, we need to establish the "animals'" villains, I think we can manage to make a movie with "Spider-Man 2 (Lizard, Rhino, Vulture)", but I do admit it will be tricky
We can probably focus primarily on one villan (like the lizard) and just quickly interdouce the Rhino and Vulture.
Then in the next movie, we can interdouce primarily Doc Ock, and then countinue to give Rhino and Vulture a bit more depth
And so on, while not giving them full movie we can still have them established enough for the Kraven movie and the S6 movie.
Fluffy_serpent
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I agree, I can imagine ...
mystery, a genius in special effects who struggles to get good job opportunities .. until he sees spider-man, that's when he comes up with an idea, if he will use his wits to "be a hero" ... an amazing one, that is better than spider-man, one that reveals to the world "magic", once his fame is sufficient, it only remains to reveal that all the magic were only special effects and then job offers will rain, it would be the best, it would go down in history.
That was the plan until weeks before he revealed the truth, did someone or something turn up that had "real magic"? now mystery has to find a way to defeat true magic with his false magic ...
and that would be the synopsis of the film, the villain could be either an original character or a negative mister or someone else.
to have an excuse why spider-man did nothing it could be that:
1.it happens at the time that peter absolutely refuses to be spider-man
2. It occurs in another part of the United States or in England.
he would be an anti-hero whose motivation for being a hero is originally fame and money. This is seen in that he does not care too much about hurting people if they are "bad" or robbing them.
the film would show the mystery from its beginnings where it is practically someone normal to the mystery who performs actions that seem like real magic.
In the film he would be shown robbing the "bad guys" (at first alley thugs, later mafia bosses) all this spending on himself or on improving his technology.
Fluffy_serpent
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yeah, my biggest concern was trying to give everyone too much depth.
But if villains like Rino who don't have much background in the comics we don't give them much in the movies, then yes
BTW notice that other than Mysterio and Shocker all of the others villains and heros are "animal" ones, I wonder if we can use it to make them decide to help Spider-Man and Black Cat (the only hero "animals" ) and maybe that can be a start of a redemption story...
Wow!
If he steal stuff we can probably do some sort of crossover/cameo with Black Cat
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Spidey's rogues gallery can be split into three categories really. You have animal themed (Rhino, Vulture), elemental themed (Sandman, Hydro-Man), and horror themed (Green Goblin, Morbius).