There was a Spi...dea. (Sony, Spider-Man Producer Quest)

[X] Having just started college, Peter Parker must now contend with all the problems of being a young adult and a superhero. Not only does he have to adjust to his new workload at school but with Vulture cropping up all across the city, attacking various OsCorp facilities, clearing looking for something...at least when he's with his friends he feels like he's got his head above water, and it has been awhile since he's reconnected with the Allen-Toomes family...

Bioengineering as a major is good setup for future work with The Lizard. It it interdisciplinary so a bit of biochem and a bit of me and ee, and these days the big data bits of Cs. Part of Peters overload is also self teaching himself all the other areas too.
 
More of a sidebar at this point, but what's everybody thinking for the next round of acquisitions? Personally in favor of going for the combo of Ghostbusters, Danny Phantom and Dresden Files to add some much needed mysticism and occult into the overarching narrative and mythos, 'cause for the most part we've mostly avoided covering them in favor of outright action and super science [not a bad thing, just pointing it out].

What's interesting here, moreso in light of the subjects is how their lore meshes fairly well together. Case and point, the DP's Ghost Zone and DF's Nevernever are fairly similar in their descriptions downright to the point that everything within is composed of ectoplasm and that there are naturally occurring portals that can transport those using them virtually anywhere and anywhen [without a proper understanding of their ways]. And given Danny Phantom is fairly pliable when it comes to a backstory and the 2009 Ghostbusters game introducing the idea that, following the events of the game, the team began franchising to other cities we can basically interconnect all of them with a fair amount of success; kinda want to pre-empt the 2016 Reboot with a version of Afterlife, setting Amity Park as a district/suburb of Chicago maybe?
Bioengineering as a major is good setup for future work with The Lizard. It it interdisciplinary so a bit of biochem and a bit of me and ee, and these days the big data bits of Cs. Part of Peters overload is also self teaching himself all the other areas too.
I'd still argue for Applied Physics, given that biophysics is one of the applicable specializations and that possesses significant overlap with biochem and bioengineering; with that in mind, there's also likely an overlap with their credits, so it'd probably be easy enough to justify it to himself to take additional majors [if he so wanted or wanted to later revisit the issue].
 
Why do need Danny Phantom and the Ghostbusters in order to get some mysticism in our franchise? I'm fine with Dresden Files I guess, but wouldn't Gargoyles and Spawn make more sense with this setting?
 
The best thing about Ghostbusters is that we don't need to acquire the rights. They were made by Columbia who were bought by Sony. They can be easily incorporated if we wanted to. Personally, I'd make a move to introduce the Ghostbusters into our shared universe that incorporates elements of the remake, Extreme Ghostbusters, and the video game. It'd basically be a mix of the plot of the video game and Extreme Ghostbusters with some characters from the remake. It was the overly-improvised dialogue and terrible writing that ultimately sunk the remake. Plus going for a new set of Ghostbusters allows the movie to relegate the cast from the classic movies to cameos. Especially with it rather unlikely that we'd be able to get it filming before Ramis passes away.

Some variation of the plot regarding the Mandala from the video game could work on the silver screen. It'd give Ivo Shandor more to do on-screen than Afterlife did.

We'd definitely need to get Reitman on board to help make it, though. And keep Feig far away from the director's chair.

Quite frankly anything's better than the half-assed cash grab Sony released in 2016.
 
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Why do we even need the Ghostbusters in our franchise? We're already working on connecting stuff like InFamous and Uncharted to our universe, why do we need to bloat the entire thing with more stuff unrelated to superheroes like Ghostbusters?! If we need more mysticism and fantasy stuff, Spawn and Gargoyles are right there and they can actually fit the setting we're going for!
 
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[X] Having just started college, Peter Parker must now contend with all the problems of being a young adult and a superhero. Not only does he have to adjust to his new workload at school but with Vulture cropping up all across the city, attacking various OsCorp facilities, clearing looking for something...at least when he's with his friends he feels like he's got his head above water, and it has been awhile since he's reconnected with the Allen-Toomes family..
 
Why do need Danny Phantom and the Ghostbusters in order to get some mysticism in our franchise? I'm fine with Dresden Files I guess, but wouldn't Gargoyles and Spawn make more sense with this setting?
We got Ghost Rider, Iron Fist and Scarlet Witch, all three of whom tangentially revolve around "guarding the mortal realms from demonic incursion" [and that's not even getting into how Spider-Man, Daredevil, TMNT, Punisher, Dr. Doom and Mystique are also canonically involved], so we're starting to reach a point with diminishing returns in regards to demonology in respect to the audience.

In that regard, looking to other aspects of occultism, such as spectraology (Ghosts) or cryptozoology (Fae, ect.), would help continue our worldbuilding into new fronts. While Dresden Files takes a lot of setup [leaving it largely relegated to a miniseries format until its final trilogy], with Danny Phantom to we got a ghostly superhero right out the gate that we can connect to a preexisting property (Ghostbusters) with minimal setup and just run with it.
Plus going for a new set of Ghostbusters allows the movie to relegate the cast from the classic movies to cameos. Especially with it rather unlikely that we'd be able to get it filming before Ramis passes away.
I think it needs to be handled delicately and with respect to the older generation, a proper handful where they are still held up to be the heroes of their generation and it still means something in ours; on this, Afterlife delivered fairly well.

Unfortunately, we still wouldn't be able to get Raimis for the movie, his condition has already led him to, and left too weak to leave, his deathbed by 2013.
Why do we even need the Ghostbusters in our franchise? We're already working on connecting stuff like InFamous and Uncharted to our universe, why do we need to bloat the entire thing with more stuff unrelated to superheroes like Ghostbusters?! If we need more mysticism and fantasy stuff, Spawn and Gargoyles are right there and they can actually fit the setting we're going for!
inFamous isn't too much of a stretch to connect to the SCU [Spider Cinematic Universe], given its thematics and internal setup and in addition to the fact that we can utilize it to create several storylines that branch out from its inciting event (the Elementals being Conduits for one); Uncharted we can use as an excuse to explore the other Seven Capital Cities of Heaven and other distant and strange locals that we normally wouldn't be able to explore in depth.

Like, most of them can be relegated to a miniseries format to give these additional settings the room to breath, and [if done properly] be used as a soft reboot/revival of the original franchise in question, in addition to the fact we get to explore the obscure bits of lore already extant in [what bits we own of] Marvel's setting.
What do you think of making our doctor octopus like / similar to the one in spiderman ps4?
Yes.
 
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We got Ghost Rider, Iron Fist and Scarlet Witch, all three of whom tangentially revolve around "guarding the mortal realms from demonic incursion" [and that's not even getting into how Spider-Man, Daredevil, TMNT, Punisher, Dr. Doom and Mystique are also canonically involved], so we're starting to reach a point with diminishing returns in regards to demonology in respect to the audience.

In that regard, looking to other aspects of occultism, such as spectraology (Ghosts) or cryptozoology (Fae, ect.), would help continue our worldbuilding into new fronts. While Dresden Files takes a lot of setup [leaving it largely relegated to a miniseries format until its final trilogy], with Danny Phantom to we got a ghostly superhero right out the gate that we can connect to a preexisting property (Ghostbusters) with minimal setup and just run with it.
Okay, but why? Why do we need to explore all of this different supernatural stuff when we've only touched on the supernatural with Ghost Rider and Iron Fist? Why do we need to insert all of this other stuff when we should be playing to our current strengths? And most importantly, what does this have to do with Spider-Man?

You don't make coherent cinematic universes by throwing random shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. We've just bought the rights to a a bunch of different Marvel characters that we still don't know how to integrate into our universe, we can't just start shoving other stuff in there that doesn't even have much of anything to do with superheroes to begin with.
 
In that regard, looking to other aspects of occultism, such as spectraology (Ghosts) or cryptozoology (Fae, ect.), would help continue our worldbuilding into new fronts. While Dresden Files takes a lot of setup [leaving it largely relegated to a miniseries format until its final trilogy], with Danny Phantom to we got a ghostly superhero right out the gate that we can connect to a preexisting property (Ghostbusters) with minimal setup and just run with it.

I think it needs to be handled delicately and with respect to the older generation, a proper handful where they are still held up to be the heroes of their generation and it still means something in ours; on this, Afterlife delivered fairly well.

Unfortunately, we still wouldn't be able to get Raimis for the movie, his condition has already led him to, and left too weak to leave, his deathbed by 2013.
And now I'm liking the idea of Madeline and Jack Fenton being associates of Ray Stantz from back in their college days.

Maybe "cameos" is the wrong term. More like "supporting characters". For instance, I'd have Peter Venkman be New York's mayor. The new Ghostbusters deserve to have a sympathetic ear in the mayor's office.

I like the idea of including characters from Extreme Ghostbusters or the reboot since, in purely cold-blooded terms, we wouldn't have to make up characters from whole cloth. And I like in principle that Holtzmann wasn't just another Egon.

It's such a shame that this didn't come up sooner. Otherwise, we could have had Ramis's final role be better than being Adam in Year One.
Okay, but why? Why do we need to explore all of this different supernatural stuff when we've only touched on the supernatural with Ghost Rider and Iron Fist? Why do we need to insert all of this other stuff when we should be playing to our current strengths? And most importantly, what does this have to do with Spider-Man?

You don't make coherent cinematic universes by throwing random shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. We've just bought the rights to a a bunch of different Marvel characters that we still don't know how to integrate into our universe, we can't just start shoving other stuff in there that doesn't even have much of anything to do with superheroes to begin with.
It helps that the events of the Ghostbusters movies happened in New York. How hard would it be to initially imply that the events of those movies happened in our universe before outright including them? And if it doesn't work out we could always replace them with other supernatural shenanigans. I like the idea of building up the backstory of the universe we're fabricating.

And if this doesn't work it was just a thought experiment.
 
Okay, but why? Why do we need to explore all of this different supernatural stuff when we've only touched on the supernatural with Ghost Rider and Iron Fist? Why do we need to insert all of this other stuff when we should be playing to our current strengths? And most importantly, what does this have to do with Spider-Man?
Because a lot of mysticism has been built up, around and within, the entirety of the Spider-Man mythos since it came out.

For example, Mephisto is directly plugged into the overall mythos, not just by One More Day, but by the very fact that Norman Osborne made a pact with him to save his company at the cost of Harry's soul [something that would ultimately lead the both of them into insanity]. Additional mystical or occult elements of 616 also include the Gathering of Five (involves Cassandra Webb, Mattie Franklin and Norman Osborne), Kraven's powers had a basis in Voodoo mysticism (herbal potion), Kraven was ritually resurrected by his family, since 2011 the Symbiotes have become godkilling weapons (the oldest, All-Black the Necrosword, slew a Celestial, and later wielded by another on a mission to slay all the gods...Gorr came pretty close), the Spider-Totems, Madame Webb, and so many other little things it's almost puzzling why Spidey doesn't have an outright mystical archnemesis.
You don't make coherent cinematic universes by throwing random shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. We've just bought the rights to a a bunch of different Marvel characters that we still don't know how to integrate into our universe, we can't just start shoving other stuff in there that doesn't even have much of anything to do with superheroes to begin with.
No, but people voted for those properties anyway and now we have to figure out a way to integrate them.

Some of them are fairly easy [Silver Sable versus Dr. Doom and the Twins (Wanda & Pietro)], others are less obvious [Mystique taking Copycat's (Vanessa) place as Deadpool's beau, the both of them set against OsCorp for being behind the experiments] and still others that require looking at either the comics [Norman Osborne, hero for being the only one capable enough to stand up to the Skrulls, or Emma Frost being a student at ESU and/or runs her own company, doing shady business dealings with a secret society], or having the storylines match up [Crimewave after the Ray Sphere Explosion, ultimately leading to the massacre of Frank Castle's family].

Even the higher tier 'Endgame' type bosses, Silver Surfer, Galactus and Kang The Conqueror have a place, from the former being the catalyst to the Skrulls being on Earth and the latter coming into play due to Kessler's interference [something about how he didn't exist in Kessler's prior timeline, thereby being the catalyst to allow Kang to come into existence].
 
ryan reynolds will be deadpool and he will share the screen or even co-star with spider-man

fun fact: he's been trying to make a deadpool movie since (I think) 2005 or 2010
 
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Because a lot of mysticism has been built up, around and within, the entirety of the Spider-Man mythos since it came out.

For example, Mephisto is directly plugged into the overall mythos, not just by One More Day, but by the very fact that Norman Osborne made a pact with him to save his company at the cost of Harry's soul [something that would ultimately lead the both of them into insanity]. Additional mystical or occult elements of 616 also include the Gathering of Five (involves Cassandra Webb, Mattie Franklin and Norman Osborne), Kraven's powers had a basis in Voodoo mysticism (herbal potion), Kraven was ritually resurrected by his family, since 2011 the Symbiotes have become godkilling weapons (the oldest, All-Black the Necrosword, slew a Celestial, and later wielded by another on a mission to slay all the gods...Gorr came pretty close), the Spider-Totems, Madame Webb, and so many other little things it's almost puzzling why Spidey doesn't have an outright mystical archnemesis.
Okay, but we can still easily have this mysticism without shoving in stuff that doesn't belong. Spawn and the Gargoyles are already filled to the brim with stuff like this. If anything, those two would provide us with far more of that than Ghostbusters or Danny Phantom, and it comes with the added bonus of actually fitting with the rest of the setting. Hell, if we get Greg Weisman and Todd McFarlane on board, I'm sure they would both be able to come up with all kinds of new mystical stuff to add.

No objection to those ideas you came up with for the new characters we have. They're really interesting and creative, and I thank you for putting some thought into how this whole thing can be made into something coherent.
 
Voting has officially ended, here are the results:

Adhoc vote count started by Yite on Jan 17, 2022 at 4:30 AM, finished with 27 posts and 14 votes.
 
Orion Ultor's Omake: SCU: The Editing Process
- [X] Jackie Chan himself had come in, wanting to direct the movie, surprisingly enough. He wanted to make it... just a fun martial arts movie.
You decided to take Jackie Chan himself on as the director of the Iron Fist movie, he'd certainly make it a lot more fun.
Danny Rand/Iron Fist (Garrett Hedlund) Screen Presence: 115!

Garrett had done perfectly as Danny Rand and Iron Fist, you were honestly shocked by his quite frankly, legendary performance as the character.
Editing Reroll: 98.

The editing had come out practically perfect, thank goodness!
SCU: The Editing Process

When you first heard about Iron Fist, you'd been in your sophomore year and a massive comic book fan for year, having been caught up in the initial wave after the Raimi movies had hit, rewatching reruns of the Spider-Man cartoon every Saturday morning as a kid, reading the official digital scans of the original comics and finding that above them all, Spider-Man was your favorite.

Fantastic Four? They were fun but you didn't remember Doom the the way you did Goblin. X-Men? Wolverine was the only interesting one and he was way different from either of the cartoons you'd seen. Hulk...well, you really didn't get what the big deal was, or what that smoke monster was supposed to be. And Iron Man? The comic was kinda interesting but you loved the movie, the movie version being your second favorite hero.

You'd always wanted to know more about the comics, but you never had the allowance to get into them...so you were forced to do the unforgivable and read the summaries instead of the actual comics. It kinda...divorced you from the sense of nostalgia that came with the old stories, but the only physical copies you owned were all of Spider-Man's most important titles, from two or three reprints of the original run, the Night Gwen Stacy died, an old copy of Venom run after Secret Wars, a few of the Avengers comics that had him a member of the team alongside Wolverine, one or two Spider-Girl titles, the initial Spidey 2099 that you found in the bargain bin and a good chunk of the Ultimate Spidey run.

So when they rebooted Spider-Man in the wake of the MCU, you were left kinda heartbroken...and then fell in love with the character all over again, as you finally got to see him in a completely different light. You were happy that Gwen and Felicia were finally done justice, completely blindsided by Luke Cage and Ghost Rider, having by and large failed to get into them despite their compelling storylines in the case of the latter and completely failing to recognize the former...something that happened again when you saw Iron Fist in Black Cat.

At first you'd been completely underwhelmed with this dude, feeling like you were just watching another version of this dude's character in Tron...and then you watched the movie and lost your gorram mind. Not only had the appearance of freaking Shredder completely melted your mind (Splinter too, but after the fact), but somewhere in the sauce you completely missed how that Jackie Chan had been the one to make the movie, something you were so grateful for, remembering all those Saturday mornings you and your brothers rewatched The Medallion and the Jackie Chan Adventures...you were obsessed with the action this man's attention to the editing process, something you'd very much began looking into with enthusiasm; for example, whereas the MCU's strengths thus far had been in terms of casting and characterization [even, strangely, the panned Thor movie which wasn't that bad in the grandscheme of things, especially if you stitched the deleted scenes in] the Spider Cinematic Universe's strengths had layed in its kinetic editing process their directors tended to favor, making the series genuinely feel like a comic book had come to life.

From what you'd seen, Edgar Wright had set the overall tone of kineticism that had played well to Garfield's take on Kirby's Peter Parker, giving Spider-Man a sort of manic energy rarely seen in other portrayals. Tarantino had taken that baton and carried it through to Luke Cage, making them a veritable font of barely restrained rage at the powers that be that felt earned, making you sympathize with the character. Chad Stahelski and David Leitch, seeing the work of their compatriots had refined that process the two had set up and made it their own, taking the characters and refining their actions to a honed edge, especially in light to the sheer force of will that Johnny Blaze actually was as the Ghost Rider. Guy Ritchie...hadn't quite lived up to the same standards that Stahelski and Leitch had set, unfortunately, but he had managed to take the kineticism that had been displayed thus far and utilized in a thusfar unorthodox method, by taking the action into a purely mental field, showcasing a greater knowledge of the methodologies, and similar traits, a cat burglar would need. And Jackie Chan, having seen the work of his American contemporaries, had taken it as a personal challenge to refine the process even further, channeling it into one of the greatest martial arts movies you have ever seen.

You hadn't realized it that first time, too wrapped up in the action to notice, but on rewatching the movie a second and third times, you slowly began to realize that Jackie Chan had done far more than make a great movie...he'd made the film a philosophical discourse on the virtues of martial arts, of Chinese culture, and ignited a renewed interest in Kung Fu [and martial arts in general] throughout the globe.

So here you were, just barely into your junior year and already thinking about film school...but beyond that, you were very excited to see what they did with the inFamous show. Rumor had it, that Chris Miller and Phil Lord were gonna be the directors, and given what they did with 21 Jump Street, you had high hopes for this one...
 
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Hey, I'm writing up the update, and have a question.

What characters do you want to see in Spider-Man 2? Just so I can add them into the vote. Because I'll be posting this tomorrow, since I'm going to bed in a bit.
 
Maybe Octo Octavias as a scientist who needs to check something in the college for his research and this later leads to Peter and Octo becoming friends?
 
I'd like to see a Latverian student who is just a normal kid.

Octavious or Conners as a mentoring professor.

We could have JJ and Parker having a part time job doing spider photos while at school.
 
Connor as a teacher?
Norman?
Peter becomes Prof Connors TA (Teacher's Assistant) near the end of the movie, after he gets his work-hero-life balance in order?

Norman Osborne shows up briefly during the Vulture attacks, before being revealed in the Post-Credits as the one ultimately behind the shadowy figures that have met with Shocker and Luke Cage, with Emma Frost by his side to imply them being our version of the Hellfire Club.
Maybe Octo Octavias as a scientist who needs to check something in the college for his research and this later leads to Peter and Octo becoming friends?
I'd like to see a Latverian student who is just a normal kid.

Octavious or Conners as a mentoring professor.
How about our version of Otto Octavius being Latverian? Could be that he was a refugee from before Doom rose to power, or that he's there at the behest of Doom himself. That way, if we were to get Alfred Molina to reprise the role he could speak in his natural accent, with this as a convenient explanation as to why [he learned English in Britain] which would have the fans go wild with multiverse theories. Still would prefer to keep him in reserve until the sequel, or another Phase entirely, so that we could do something like Insomniac's version and have him be Peter's post-graduate professor.

As for a normal, Latverian student...maybe a version of Anna Maria [Marconi]? She should already exist by now, so it'd be easy enough to justify the change due to her character being so new and makes it an easy enough to tie her to Otto as his TA or something like that.
 
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