Remove ads

There was a Spi...dea. (Sony, Spider-Man Producer Quest)

Reader mode
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
well they all sound good ..

But just to be sure, will shocker appear in this movie?

although if we wanted we could present Electro as a prisoner or an employee who was subjected to the experiments (different ones) and gained the powers of electricity from it

we could also introduce shocker as the new alpha dog of the prison / supers pavilion and that he has electro as his right hand (and has other supers as his "circle of trust")

In case we do so, which one would be better? or do we have to create one? or anyone works?

[X] Carl Lucas was arrested for a crime he didn't commit, and sent to Seagate Prison due to his 'crimes', while there he was experimented on against his will, and gained superhuman strength and incredible durability. After this, Carl tried to use his new-found powers to escape the prison, but failed, getting put in a special ward of the prison, filled with various other people with superhuman abilities, where he has to either make friends with the more powered people, or fight them to take the spot of the top dog.
 
Last edited:
Fluffy_serpent said:
well they all sound good ..

But just to be sure, will shocker appear in this movie?

although if we wanted we could present Electro as a prisoner or an employee who was subjected to the experiments (different ones) and gained the powers of electricity from it

we could also introduce shocker as the new alpha dog of the prison / supers pavilion and that he has electro as his right hand (and has other supers as his "circle of trust")

In case we do so, which one would be better? or do we have to create one? or anyone works?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We can build up to that stuff over a couple movies
 
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.

I like the idea of Shocker contrasting with Luke in different ways than he did with Spidy.
They are both mercenary, pragmatic, streetwise, and from bad backgrounds.
 
[] Carl Lucas, arrested for crimes he never committed, was sent to Riker's Island where he has languished for the past five years. In spite of this, Carl has devoted much of his time towards improving both himself (acquired a GED and a 410lb bench press) and other prisoners in similar situations, but as he quickly learned it could never be for free. We watch as his life becomes increasingly repetitive, until a staged riot occurs where he, and number of other prisoners, are taken to what is supposed to be solitary confinement and instead illegally experimented on. One by one, each of them is exposed to an unknown formula and changed, each dying in new and unique ways, the progress of the formula noted and altered for better results; it's then that Carl himself gets tested on, becoming the only survivor of these trials, it's only success. Satisfied, they turn attempt to turn him back over to the Warden, but his newfound powers help facilitate from their custody and help him escape into the greater NYC metropolitan area. Now left to grapple with his newfound powers, he looks upon all the injustices he'd seen the criminal underworld had inflicted on his community that he'd previously shied away from and decides to finally do something about it.

[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
[X] Connected Universe:
-[X] We start the movie with the last scene of Spider-Man, The Shocker is welcomed to the prison, when almost every other inmate is cheering one don't and look at him with intese look, than we flashback
-[X] We see a long montage of Lucas as a teen doing crime, with his best bud "Stryker", we focus mostly on their interaction and character development, the crimes they commit are bad, but we present them as almost an after thought.
-[X] Then the next segment is going to be almost a love story, between Reva Conners and Stryker, with Lucas as a good friend for both of them
-[X] Suddenly, without any reason given Lucas is framed in a crime he didn't commit and he is going to prison
-[X] in the next year he pisses off almost any other inmate and guard as he is trashing and saying he is innocent
-[X] then the Shocker come to prison, and the movie start, we follow a sub-plot, the Shocker wants to become the top dog, and searches for a target that won't piss off the guards to much
-[X] the whole prison is going into a riot that almost cost Lucas his life
-[X] then there is the usual comics offer from Dr. Noah Burnstein to be a part of experiment, we learn that this doctor is a rival of Dr. Curtis Connors and wants to make a breakthru due to Connors recent one
-[X] Lucas gets his powers

That what I have, I want to incorporate also the Hero for hire storyline (he fights villans for money and get the name Luke Cage), and of course kill Reva, the rest of the movie could be some kind of investigation who framed him with that being Stryker shoking and final battler

This part is less defined and we can take it a different direction, but I think that the first part can serve as a good base regardless
 
Last edited:
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.
 
Yo, watch our "Big Three" be Spider-Man, Luke Cage, and Ghost Rider.

That's... honestly, a weird but pretty fun lineup.

We have Spidey and Luke Cage for the more street-level stuff, that can crossover to the larger stuff. While we have Ghost Rider for the more mystical side of the movies, along with big villains.

Though, we could have some villains become anti-heroes to add onto it.

Maybe make an original team-up movie for them.
 
I was originally going to post a hot take about how I think we should get Nicholas Cage back because I actually liked his performance in the Ghost Rider films, but I quick scroll to the Wikipedia page of Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance revealed to me that apparently Cage decided he was done with the character after that movie's release, so that doesn't appear to be an option. ☹️
 
Yite said:
We have Spidey and Luke Cage for the more street-level stuff, that can crossover to the larger stuff. While we have Ghost Rider for the more mystical side of the movies, along with big villains.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Certainly, though I do think that Spidey leans far more heavily into that Golden Age era of street-level, where the bad guys could get their hands on anything from super science to outright magic when they put their minds to it, and Luke Cage to the modern Bronze Age, pseudo-realism they've been pushing for awhile.

All I'm saying is that Spidey is the perfect option to bridge the two.
Yite said:
Though, we could have some villains become anti-heroes to add onto it.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I think that Doc Ock, Shocker and Venom make the best case options for it in Spidey's gallery, dunno who in Cage or Ghost Rider camps make decent options...maybe Sin Eater?
Yite said:
Maybe make an original team-up movie for them.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Sin Eater, Black Cat and Misty Knight, being a "Suicide Squad" or Predator expy?
 
I'd say Mysterio could make for a decent anti-hero, having a person using tech-based illusions/misdirection fight against genuine mystical creatures/people could be a lot of fun.

Actually, now that I think about it... maybe Chemistro could be one too, as he's a Luke Cage villain. The first Chemistro could be an interesting anti-hero, at least in my opinion.
 
Last edited:
Yite said:
I'd say Mysterio could make for a decent anti-hero, having a person using tech-based illusions/misdirection fight against genuine mystical creatures/people could be a lot of fun.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You're right, he makes more sense than Doc Ock at this point, still being more a tragic villain than a anti-hero at this point.

Mac Gargan too, now that I think about it a little more, back when he was serious about going straight...Spidey did him dirty that time. Was thinking of turning him into our version of Kaine, though; [eventually] a clone who grew out from Peter's shadow by becoming a Private Eye.

[EDIT: BTW, is this version of Peter hiding his being Spider-Man from Gwen or did he let her know/discover it for herself?]
 
Last edited:
Orion Ultor said:
You're right, he makes more sense than Doc Ock at this point, still being more a tragic villain than a anti-hero at this point.

Mac Gargan too, now that I think about it a little more, back when he was serious about going straight...Spidey did him dirty that time. Was thinking of turning him into our version of Kaine, though; [eventually] a clone who grew out from Peter's shadow by becoming a Private Eye.

[EDIT: BTW, is this version of Peter hiding his being Spider-Man from Gwen or did he let her know/discover it for herself?]
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Ah fuck, I knew I forgot something.

Let's say he's hidden it from her for now.

Also, I edited the previous post, adding another villain turned anti-hero idea from Luke Cage's rogues gallery.
 
Yite said:
Let's say he's hidden it from her for now.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
OK, hmm. In that case, I'd like to put my vote forward for her being let in the know by Peter in the next movie, preferably early on so we can both build her up into Spidey's Mission Control and differentiate plotlines from other movies where they either never clue in the love interest or hold off until the very end to create a plot hook for a potential sequel.

Doesn't hurt that doing it this way builds up her character beyond love-interest, and an interesting plotpoint to build around for her being Spider-Woman, should we decide to make her one.
Yite said:
Also, I edited the previous post, adding another villain turned anti-hero idea from Luke Cage's rogues gallery.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Would be an interesting choice, especially if we decide to make him our analogue to Tony Stark, though one that actually leans towards anti-heroism that IM1 originally promised us.
 
Yite said:
I'd say Mysterio could make for a decent anti-hero, having a person using tech-based illusions/misdirection fight against genuine mystical creatures/people could be a lot of fun.

Actually, now that I think about it... maybe Chemistro could be one too, as he's a Luke Cage villain. The first Chemistro could be an interesting anti-hero, at least in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'll have my mysterio antihero movie sooner or later
 
I have a... 'funny/ridiculous, but it might just work' idea.
We want to buy Daredevil from Fox, if for no other reason, than to get Kingpin, yes?
What if we also tried to license Ninja Turtles from Nick, and introduce them into our cinematic universe?
While they are not originally a part of either DC or Marvel, they were made with a fairly strong shout-out to DD and his origins..
And, we are not Marvel, we can do it if we want.
Also, I kinda want Spidy to make a crack about: "Hand ninjas, Foot ninjas... What's next? Ass ninjas?"
 
yannoshka said:
I have a... 'funny/ridiculous, but it might just work' idea.
We want to buy Daredevil from Fox, if for no other reason, than to get Kingpin, yes?
What if we also tried to license Ninja Turtles from Nick, and introduce them into our cinematic universe?
While they are not originally a part of either DC or Marvel, they were made with a fairly strong shout-out to DD and his origins..
And, we are not Marvel, we can do it if we want.
Also, I kinda want Spidy to make a crack about: "Hand ninjas, Foot ninjas... What's next? Ass ninjas?"
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
If we want to do that, here's a list of a couple other properties that could be fun to play around with:

Storylines from TMNT, Daredevil, Transformers, GI Joe, Danny Phantom, Mortal Kombat, the Stan Lee Universe and Venture Brothers are the most feasible interesting from a worldbuilding standpoint; while some of them would be harder to adapt than others [especially if we managed to acquire them all at once], TMNT's backstory meshes fairly well with Daredevil and (depending on how Spidey got his powers) could prove to be an interesting evolution of the Goblin Formula, GI Joe, Red Sonja and Transformers have already been adapted by Marvel [GI Joe can even be our SHIELD], Danny Phantom has what could be an interesting expansion to the metaphysics of our setting, Mortal Kombat has what could be our alternative to Secret Wars and Battleworld, and Venture Bros is just some inane shit that could be our Deadpool. And Red Sonja

Realistically, Danny Phantom, Mortal Kombat, Red Sonja, the Stan Lee Universe and TMNT, are the easiest ones to get a handle on and fold into the Sony SpiderVerse.
 
Unfortunately, Michel Bay already has his damn dirty disgusting explosion-loving fangs in the Transformers movies at this time, so that would not really be viable, and as for the others, I like everything except Venture Brothers.
That is just too cartoony, and intentionally (entertainingly, but still) controversial to be suitable without a major amount of editing that would, in my opinion, make it in-name-only.
 
yannoshka said:
Unfortunately, Michel Bay already has his damn dirty disgusting explosion-loving fangs in the Transformers movies at this time, so that would not really be viable, and as for the others, I like everything except Venture Brothers.
That is just too cartoony, and intentionally (entertainingly, but still) controversial to be suitable without a major amount of editing that would, in my opinion, make it in-name-only.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That honestly depends on where you want to put the focus, because there's a lot of worldbuilding material in there that is surprisingly compatible with Marvel that doesn't get a lot of attention compared to its humor, but I do get your point.

A scene like this though would be glorious, however.


Context, the guy on the tracks is basically Canadian Daredevil if he was a degen, who works for the other villain company. He also dissed Red Death, who's surprisingly wholesome in any other context when he's not at work being villainous.
 
Last edited:
Orion Ultor said:
That honestly depends on where you want to put the focus, because there's a lot of worldbuilding material in there that is surprisingly compatible with Marvel that doesn't get a lot of attention compared to its humor, but I do get your point.

A scene like this though would be glorious, however.


Context, the guy on the tracks is basically Canadian Daredevil if he was a degen, who works for the other villain company. He also dissed Red Death, who's surprisingly wholesome in any other context when he's not at work being villainous.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Hey, you don't have to sell it to me.
The problem would be selling it to the studio...
Because I don't see that as anything but a hellishly hard negotiations roll.
 
[X] We start in Seagate Prison, later learning that Carl Lucas was framed for a crime he didn't commit. And watch as he goes about his daily prison life, before gaining his powers in an illegal experiment. A few days later, a riot breaks out in the prison, and Carl Lucas makes a deal with the warden to put a stop to it, in exchange for parole. And so, we spend the final act of the movie, watching Luke Cage fight a bunch of murderous prisoners.

I can believe I almost missed two updates because my internet was dead for two days.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top