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The Rising of the Shield Heroine

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punster lv1 said:
That's a good point but Oni Lee comes with a very engrained negative reputation and a very visually distinctive powerset. While Villain to Hero conversions do happen, they require resources and expertise that Heraldry just doesn't have (yet).
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You make some very good points.
However, I suggested Oni Lee for the ABB because he, from my view, has least amount of baggage.
Lung is either exceedingly lazy or he is violent beyond belief. Bakuda may be an unknown like Taylor at the start, Bakuda is power mad. Personally, she just rubs me the wrong way.
 
Finished counting. I hope I found everything.
Outlander:
Labyrinth (several times)
any of the Travelers
Squealer
Vista
Seems like Labyrinth, since no one else been mentioned more than once, I think.

Herne isn't:
Bitch
Genesis
Crusader
Hookwolf
Cricket
Aisha / Imp
Sophia Hess / Shadow Stalker

Conspiracy isn't:
Tattletale
Shamrock
Greg Vader
Dinah
 
Actually, Bakuda is one of the easier ones to sort out. All you need to do is depict her madness as a result of Lungs treatment of her and her little bombing at Cornell to be a result of her Trigger Event screwing with her head as is so common and you have a character thats not to difficult to make into a decent hero. You dont even really have to change her general attitude that much, just change it from wanting to prove herself by blowing shit up to wanting to prove herself by creating incredibly useful bombs that do things like heal or reverse damage. You dont need to be nice to be good after all.
 
Mmm a quick google says that Herne could refer to Herne the Hunter, a ghost that was made famous from Shakespeare.

So of all the people that aren´t on that list, i bet Theo is Herne, his power is ghostly enough, he would trigger later in the story but hey this is a fanfiction it could happen
 
Dis Lexic said:
Actually, Bakuda is one of the easier ones to sort out. All you need to do is depict her madness as a result of Lungs treatment of her and her little bombing at Cornell to be a result of her Trigger Event screwing with her head as is so common and you have a character thats not to difficult to make into a decent hero. You dont even really have to change her general attitude that much, just change it from wanting to prove herself by blowing shit up to wanting to prove herself by creating incredibly useful bombs that do things like heal or reverse damage. You dont need to be nice to be good after all.
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Congratulations, you have just proved me wrong. I still favor Oni Lee, but your argument for Bakuda is better and moroe thorough than my argument for Oni Lee.


Motorata said:
Mmm a quick google says that Herne could refer to Herne the Hunter, a ghost that was made famous from Shakespeare.

So of all the people that aren´t on that list, i bet Theo is Herne, his power is ghostly enough, he would trigger later in the story but hey this is a fanfiction it could happen
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No, it is entirely possible for Theo to become a cape at this point of the story. If Sophia is going Nazi hunting, she could force Theo into a position where he could Trigger.
 
Bobot-Man said:
Congratulations, you have just proved me wrong. I still favor Oni Lee, but your argument for Bakuda is better and moroe thorough than my argument for Oni Lee.
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The problem with Lee is that his powers, and more importantly his attitude, are far to well known, compounded by the fact that they are basically killing him. Unless Taylor or someone else can fix the issues with Lees power, hes pretty much useless and will only result in far more trouble than hes worth for Taylor and her team. With Bakuda, so long as its not post bombing rampage, its not that hard to keep her from getting slapped with a Villain label with the argument of Trigger stress as a mitigating factor for her rampage at her university, but that would never work with Lee.
 
Leechblade said:
I actually agree, but bear in mind; we're outside observers.

I don't pretend to understand why she didn't give up on Emma earlier, but I also don't pretend to understand why Emma leaned on Sophia rather than what she knew was trustworthy.
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As far as I can tell, it's because Sophia got to Emma first. The girl was completely out of her mind with fear and stress, so she didn't even think to try and call Taylor for help. Instead, she latched onto the first person who she felt could help her, Sophia A.K.A Shadow Stalker.

A lot of people don't realize or forget that Emma is legitimately insane. She was broken by her experience in the Alley and so she turned to Sophia, who had saved her, to build herself back up. She believed that if she were to embrace Sophia's predator vs. prey mentality and crush Taylor, who she viewed as stronger than her, then she'd never be hurt again.

I actually have to wonder what they're going to do with Emma after she gets put back in the asylum. She kind of proved that she was both violent and a flight risk with this, so she'll probably, at the very least, be put under tighter surveillance. I don't know if they'd do something like put her in solitary or something like that, though. They'd have to balance what's good for everybody else and what's good for Emma herself.
 
Kotar said:
I actually have to wonder what they're going to do with Emma after she gets put back in the asylum. She kind of proved that she was both violent and a flight risk with this, so she'll probably, at the very least, be put under tighter surveillance. I don't know if they'd do something like put her in solitary or something like that, though. They'd have to balance what's good for everybody else and what's good for Emma herself.
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Emma's about to get a wake-up call, and is going to get a good look at how broken she really is. But yes, she's going to spend the next year under tighter surveillance. She was originally kept in an 'Open Institution' which is essentially a place for people who need assisted living but no containment; she's likely to be moved to a Medium one after this. ON the other hand, now she's actually going to try to work to get better.
 
Tale Swapper said:
I do! As I said in a previous post, the current final team will be as follows:
  • Heraldry
  • Bogatyr
  • Hawking
  • Outlander
  • Herne
  • Conspiracy
With perhaps one or two more added in or acting as close allies.
Hopefully, that will clear everything up
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Alright, here's what we have so far

Heraldry: Taylor(Confirmed)
Bogatyr: Trainwreck(Confirmed)
Hawking: Allie(Confirmed)
Outlander: Unconfirmed but most likely Labyrinth
Herne: Unknown
Conspiracy: Unknown but confirmed not yet triggered

By the way, I have a wild guess about Conspiracy, Danny
TS never said nothing about Conspiracy's distinctive powers being canon, now did he?
 
Koraan said:
Not really? I mean "not gained the distinctive powers that match their name" most likely is about a Trigger, but not necesarily. What about Shield-related powers? Or Second Trigger? Or even Bonesaw power changing surgery?
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I GET IT
Its Spitfire.
It's a reference to the Gunpowder plot where people tried to blow up London´s Parlament with well, gunpowder.
She also triggered a bit later than Taylor

Here I made my bet

Herne its Theo with the ghost reference to Shakesphere and Conspiracy its Emily with the explosion reference to the Gunpowder plot
 
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Huh, for some reason I thought that all of the team members had already triggered, but Tale Swapper's hints just say "are active in Brockton bay at the story's start." Does anyone know if the Travelers are already in Brockton Bay?

Conspiracy doesn't have their "distinctive" powers yet while Herne is "a bit of an obscure legend". The only obscure legend that comes to mind is Coil himself, in that it wasn't known whether or not he was actually a cape, but I'd be shocked if he was Herne. Maybe Browbeat? He probably hasn't joined the Wards yet, and he's memetically forgetable. Can he give himself antlers with his biokinesis?

As for Conspiracy, we haven't been paying much attention to the "people working together to achieve something" part of the meaning. Crusader and Oni Lee can make copies of themselves, but that teammate doesn't have their "distinctive" powers yet. Maybe Taylor fixes Noelle, and her powers change? I don't know why she would leave the Travelers though.
 
You know, with Herne supposedly being a ghostly hunter, if I didn't know better I'd say it's Shadow Stalker getting a rebrand. The only other character/power that comes to mind is Crusader. Though the antlers kind of make me wonder about Genesis in a weird way.
 
Yeah I'm thinking Genesis for Herne now. It makes a bit of sense.

And Imp as Conspiracy would be interesting, too. She's definitely got the...something, and the foreshadowing.

That, or Aisha is Herne and Conspiracy is somebody else.
 
Hmmm... Aisha being Herne is one I hadn't considered, since she fits the trickster or spy archetypes much better than the hunter, but it would explain the name. There's no way Aisha would come up with that on her own, but I could see Taylor or Allie coming up with it.

Honestly, about the only other existing cape that comes to mind is Miss Militia. Herne is supposed to hunt from horseback, and MM could be described as a hunter (of criminals) who hunts from horseback (her motorcycle). But given her extreme lawful personality, it would take something truly horrific happening to the protectorate to get her to go independent.
 
I have the dumbest idea because why not? What if Herne or Conspiracy was either Velocity or Sheilder because they are characters with very little screen time and it would be interesting to see what would happen if they split from their groups

But to be more serious are the last two even Brockton natives?
 
Dawns_Lilly said:
I have the dumbest idea because why not? What if Herne or Conspiracy was either Velocity or Sheilder because they are characters with very little screen time and it would be interesting to see what would happen if they split from their groups

But to be more serious are the last two even Brockton natives?
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Tale Swapper said that all of the team members were active in Brockton Bay at the start of the story.
 
We already have our 'pseudo OC' identified in Allie, Shielder and Crystal I don't think got enough screen time in canon to count, but there's a fourth member of New Wave I've never seen split off without her sister:

What if Herne is VICKY?


Edit: another thought of a Parahuman that doesn't come up often enough in fanfic: Circus!
 
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People are saying unmasking to Emma is one of the stupider things Taylor could do here, which is true, but honestly I would have done the same thing in that context probably in the heat of the moment.

It's definitely not going to gain her a WIS point, but let's not forget that Taylor doesn't have Gamer's Mind or any skill helping her not make dumb decisions/keep a level head -- she's a teenager, and if I, as an alleged adult, would make that dumb decision I can 100% see a teenager making it.
 
...So, quick question, what's the intersection of "active in Brockton Bay at the start of Worm" and "gains powers after its end"? Because I just got hit by the thought that maybe it's someone who triggers in Ward that's one of the missing guesses.

Honestly, I cannot be pushed into the necessary reading-of-Ward finding anybody in that intersection would be, though, so if somebody else wants to, I would be pleasantly surprised.
 
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