Yeah, we're going to need that Presence Excellency.This will be an awkward conversation. Though to Tenten's credit she will likely realize it will be an issue. She just sucks at solving the issues.
Whoops, he dead.
True, and true.Yes, it was. Though that was A) Mostly Dosu and B) Kin is not exactly thinking rationally about this.
I mean, A) That's not public knowledge, and B) That was Danzo's doing, and Danzo is a fucking nutjob.you know, as fucked up as kins situation is, it's kind of business as normal for most ninja villages. They are sacrificing a random team of inexperienced ninjas as part of a large ploy, such things are likely fairly common. I mean even konoha murdered an entire clan down the the children and noncombatants because a moderated response to the rebellion might have caused a loss of face. Ninja politics are bloody and brutal, hopefully we can get strong enough to change that.
I mean, A) That's not public knowledge, and B) That was Danzo's doing, and Danzo is a fucking nutjob.
Besides, I get the impression he and Kin aren't at all close.
Seeing as how Zaku softened the ground to catch Dosu after Lee hit him, but when Kin was Mind-Body Switch'd by Ino, she simply got blasted.
personally i think EVERYBODY does. (except that one where he's a butler) it's just that his breed of fuck-buggering insanity mostly expresses itself through paranoia and extreme reactions, so he doesn't appear to be insane until you take a look at all the shit he's done.I haven't actually seen anyone go with a Danzo is a Nutter angle yet.
EVERYONE thinks Danzo is a nutter; that's canon.I haven't actually seen anyone go with a Danzo is a Nutter angle yet.
I mean, A) That's not public knowledge, and B) That was Danzo's doing, and Danzo is a fucking nutjob.
Nope.
wait, I thought the Hokage signed off on the extermination? I mean it was Danzo's idea, but I don't think it was one of the times where he was going off the reservation, he just managed to convince everyone to go along with his plans.
also the point is that konoha is in universe the least bloodthirsty and ruthless village, and they still do some fucked up shit from time to time. I mean yeah Danzo is behind a lot of it, but they knew what kind of monster he was and kept him around, so that isn't much of a mitigating factor. If the nice guy has that many skeletons in his closet, what does that say about everyone else?
For that, we'd want Elusive Dream Defence or Spirit-Maintaining Maneuver. Here's the first bit of EDD's writeup:Edit: Shinobi'd and apparently he was even worse than I remembered. Great guy that Danzo . In totally unrelated news, does anyone with better exalted fu than me (not hard) know what charm(s) we can get to not get whamied by a Kotakatsumi?
Like a dream slipping from a waking man's grasp, the Solar eludes others' attempts to chain his mind. The Solar uses this Charm in response to an attempt at mental influence, be it natural or unnatural. In addition to its core effects, this Charm perfectly negates that attempt at influence.
The Solar Exalted draw on their unwavering desire and intention to survive sustained mental assault. This Charm allows the Exalt to refuse unnatural mind control effects and Virtue compulsions at a reduced Willpower cost.
Blow Willpower.Edit: Shinobi'd and apparently he was even worse than I remembered. Great guy that Danzo . In totally unrelated news, does anyone with better exalted fu than me (not hard) know what charm(s) we can get to not get whamied by a Kotakatsumi?
Though it's a bit more spammable than Creation's equivalents I think?Blow Willpower.
No UMI charm has ever cost more than 5WP to break, and Kotoamatsukami is basically mindcontrol, which is very potent in the Narutoverse, but was a bread and butter problem for Exalts in Creation.
Later we might look into other charms like those mentioned above.
Have to wonder what's his internal logic on all that.Nope.
It was under consideration, I think; Danzo jumped the gun, sabotaged other efforts and manipulated events so as to come about with that result.
Dude was even dealing with Tobi/Madara back then; see Naruto 474 page 12, where Tobi greets him with long time no see.
Evil old man did a lot of questionable shit.
Kotoamatsukami is once in ten years.Though it's a bit more spammable than Creation's equivalents I think?
We'll never know, I guess.
Looking at the wiki, it appears to be a mix of Shaping and UMI, which fits in with the other high level Mangekyo Sharingan powers warping reality. Apparently, the technique works by adding false experiences, which make the target they are doing whatever the command is of their own free will. So maybe IPP would work against it?Kotoamatsukami is once in ten years.
Danzo shortened the recharge time, due to all the Senju stuff he had pumped into his body, but even he can't use it twice in a day.
So if it came to a UMI contest, the shinobi would be fucked.
From the manga after zaku lost He said their only thing in comun was the mission but He wolud avenger him anyway.True.
Man, Dosu sounds (pun intended) like such a cool guy. I wish he wasn't dead.
I haven't actually seen anyone go with a Danzo is a Nutter angle yet.
Dosu was just that great of a guy.
Didn't think ahead and realize 'oh, snake fucker might kill my team without me', but we all make mistakes.
At least I know who I'm going to ressurect if the opportunity presents itself. Sorry Hayate.
Also, lets save Zaku! All we have to do is beat up pale face!
(If I was an SI, I would be instantly killed by annoying my opponents)
That makes it even worse, since she thinks that the person put in place to support her and guide her development doesn't care about her in the slightest despite never having met her before getting her team.
Other people have mentioned good examples, but I'll also point out Sarutobi was "pressured" in the sense of "He only found out after it had happened and Itachi came to report his success to him"wait, I thought the Hokage was pressured into signing off on the extermination? I mean it was Danzo's idea, but I don't think it was one of the times where he was going off the reservation, he just managed to convince everyone to go along with his plans.
also the point is that konoha is in universe the least bloodthirsty and ruthless village, and they still do some fucked up shit from time to time. I mean yeah Danzo is behind a lot of it, but they knew what kind of monster he was and kept him around, so that isn't much of a mitigating factor. If the nice guy has that many skeletons in his closet, what does that say about everyone else?