Crow
Falling is a Pleasure. Regardless of its Fate
Odds she'll fangirl a little given he's her idol's teammate?
The Princess of Blades (Naruto/Exalted)
- Thread starter Crilltic
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ANBU die like flies on-screen because they go up against opposition way outside their league, with only teamwork and numbers to compensate.
I mean, what is the average ANBU team supposed to do against Orochimaru?
Or even Kabuto?
People die when they run into A- and S-class opposition; that's simply a law of the Narutoverse.
If you threw chuunin and jounin their way, they'd manage much better; note that when the Sound Four came to recruit Sasuke, they didn't swagger and draw ANBU attention because they lacked the firepower to survive it.
FTFY.
Do remember that Naruto's irreverence for everyone and everything isn't shared by anyone else.
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HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
Depends whether Tenten knows he's an unrepentent lech already.
...Hell, if there's foreign kunoichi in the bathhouse he might be able to feasibly say he's spying on them and sell that help of bull.
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And until someone manages to figure out "cursed seals draw on natural energy", nobody's going to get anywhere trying to study them. Jiraiya who is a Sage didn't even figure that out from Anko's, so I don't even have a clue what we'd need in order to deal with them. Better-than-Jiraiya Occult, Lore, Medicine, and Fuinjutsu? At this point I don't think we even know natural energy is a thing.
Do remember that Jiraiya doesn't hide being a lech; self-proclaimed Super Pervert.
So he's not going to bother lying to the genin.
-We don't know that Jiraiya didn't figure out how it worked; someone figured out that the Evil Seal could suppress it, after all.
We just know that it wasn't removed.
-I don't foresee us going anything higher than Medicine 3.
-Depends on how Spirit-Detecting Glance works in this AU. That and All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight.
Besides, Tenten is an Exalt.
Sorcery is going to be available sooner or later. And we get Magic-Shattering Strike at E4.
In the meantime, chakra suppression/interruption seals are a thing we can investigate.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Maybe All-Encompassing Sorcerer's Sight? Being able to actually see what's happening would be a huge advantage, though it's questionable as to whether it'd be enough by itself (Neji didn't make any comments about what was happening when he saw an active Cursed Seal, but he wasn't exactly in an ideal position to be trying to figure it out and who knows how a Byakugan compares to AESS).
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So, it occurs to me, given that we basically already earned a promotion based on our service, a leadery thing to do (remember, chuunin lead already) would be to help other konoha genin be promoted. Social actions like:
1) Get Naruto and Neji to duke it out before the tournament in some secluded place. They want to air sirty laundry, show their emotional issues ans generally beat the ah*t out of each other? Sure, no problem. But they should do it somewhere the public, potential clients and foreign kntelligence can't see. And in the arena they can give a clwae, and emotion free match between two comrades in arms from a village that treasures teamwork. Otherwise they aren't getting promoted.
2) Talk to Shikamaru about our fight against him. At least make sure he knows he's fighting us. Talk out any issues he might have with ua, as per point 1.
3) Talk with other genin about Gaara, brainstorm some ideas. Like some chemicals to use against his sand or traps to seal his sand away, or maybe genjutsu.
1) Get Naruto and Neji to duke it out before the tournament in some secluded place. They want to air sirty laundry, show their emotional issues ans generally beat the ah*t out of each other? Sure, no problem. But they should do it somewhere the public, potential clients and foreign kntelligence can't see. And in the arena they can give a clwae, and emotion free match between two comrades in arms from a village that treasures teamwork. Otherwise they aren't getting promoted.
2) Talk to Shikamaru about our fight against him. At least make sure he knows he's fighting us. Talk out any issues he might have with ua, as per point 1.
3) Talk with other genin about Gaara, brainstorm some ideas. Like some chemicals to use against his sand or traps to seal his sand away, or maybe genjutsu.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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There are some really good awareness charms that should be great for ninja. I was not suggesting them before because this exam is a straight up fight. But you might want to look into them.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
1) On the one hand, airing issues in private rather than public is a legitimately decent idea. On the other, these guys are going to be fighting in front of huge crowds and are both going to want to put in the best possible showing; that means not giving away any new techniques, general skills, etc to the other, the way would happen if they sparred. Plus there's a decent chance there's some sort of regulations about training/sparring for Genin, especially exam participants. Tenten also doesn't know Naruto- she has no reason to think about or care about his issues- and probably doesn't know the extent of Neji's problems or how they're likely to come out if the two fight. And lastly, Tenten was out cold for the Hinata/Neji fight- unless she's specifically been told about what happened, she probably simply doesn't know how bad it was or how personally Naruto took it.
And on a purely practical note: simply finding both of them isn't necessarily going to be easy. Nether is persuading them to stop their training for the time necessary for the spar(s).
2) More reasonable, but we have no reason to suspect (IC or OOC) that Shka would have issues with us or vice versa. And telling him about how he's now fighting us first runs up against the risk of breaking the Hokage's orders not to talk about what we saw.
3) On the one hand, I definitely want to warn everybody possible about Gaara. On the other, everybody already knows to some extent how bad he is thanks to Lee's fight with him, and again we have the possible issue of the Hokage's orders.
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1) No, in this quest, Tenten saw the fight, as her fight and Lee's switched places. So, she knows Naruto has emotional investment in the fight, and will likely oush Neji's buttons. And she definitely should know that Neji has issues. You are right, Tenten wouldn't care about Naruto, but I think she's going to care about Neji. And the village reputation in general. Thus, ensuring that Neji can have a good clean match which makes him look good would be a reasonable idea. The issue of restrictions is a goos point, and we should check. I would say that getting them to talk at least makes sense.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Sorry, missed that detail. The rest of my points still apply, though.
- Does Tenten have a good reason to believe that Naruto would push things far enough to warrant intervention, or know just how bad Neji's issues are? Knowing Naruto's stubborn and holding a grudge and that Neji has issues is one thing, but knowing just how far they'll both go is another entirely. Actually, @Crilltic, can you rule on this one (as it's IC knowledge)?
- How are we going to find them both? We don't know where Neji is off doing his training (not the clan compound, judging by how surprising him pulling out the Kaiten was to Hiashi), and Naruto's going to end up who knows where with Jiraiya inside of a few days.
- How are we going to convince them it's in their best interests to talk/spar and give away their moves, new training, etc, before the actual match? Remember how stubborn they both can be- Neji is hung up on destiny and fate and is used to seeing Tenten as inferior to him (not necessarily in a bad way, just as a simple fact: she is weaker), so he has a perfect way to justify to himself that we're wrong without having to actually engage our points, and Naruto is... Naruto. Worse, it's entirely possible that they might see the audience as a PLUS in airing any issues, seeing winning in front of a crowd as 'proving' they're right, or see us trying to sort this out pre-fight as meaning we think they're too weak to stand up for their ideals in front of people. And these are just off the top of my head- I wouldn't be surprised if there are even more problems along these lines (for example: Naruto may feel he has to do this where Hinata can see him, because he's doing this for her sake).
- How are we going to convince them that airing these issues before the match is more important than their own preparations for the exam? They're both going to want to be in the best possible shape for the exam, meaning pushing themselves to the limit with training and preparation and learning new techniques; sparring and so on cuts into that, and Neji at least is unlikely to view it as worth as much as training himself.
She thought it earlier in one of the posts, but she thinks Neji is very much going to just steamroll Naruto. Her tone was fairly "Well, that's just how the cookie crumbles, oh well" about it.
Crow
Falling is a Pleasure. Regardless of its Fate
Point. Just you know. a little more of a reaction considering he´s part of the legends of her idol.
This could be bad. It would need to be very careful. If Gaara loses consciousness its hello crazy tanuki time.
HymnOfRagnarok
Let's Rock
I said already knows. It's not an aspect of Konoha's legendary ninja that people like to share. Yeah it's well-known but they don't really advertise it, kinda like Kakshi reading porn in public. If that makes sense.
Once Jiraiya starts talking, yeah, only a matter of time before it's known.
1) We can leave them a message. We know where Neji lives, and Sakura should know Naruto's address.
2) We convince them by pointing out that the examiners will be looking for more than simple combat peowess, and professional behavior is going to be important. Meaning thar if they have issues with eaxh other, they should settle them outside the arena.
We're already going from an Awareness Excellency to Panoptic Fusion Discipline.
After that we're probably going back into Melee.
Probably be a while before we come back for the Keen Sense charms.
If getting genin to talk was considered necessary, you'd think the jounin-sensei would have done something about it by now.
Since it wasn't, it isn't; or worse, they're setting up a good show and think grudges help.
Everything else is covered by our orders to keep our mouth shut about everything we saw tonight.
We most definitely do not want to draw attention as having been witness to Gaara losing control, because it draws attention to the subsequent events. And that's how you get Kabuto'd.
Last of all, Tenten is Appearance 2, Presence 0. And no Social charms at all.
Who the hell is she going to convince?
Dude writes a line of erotic novels; his vices are as much a part of his legend as Tsunade's drinking and gambling problems.
Tenten is Lore 1; if she knows about Tsunade's gambling, she knows about Jiraiya's leching.
She isn't Naruto.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
1) Could work, though it does introduce a delay and it relies on them not simply brushing us off (Neji) or forgetting/not seeing the point (Naruto).
2) They're both unlikely to listen to logic on this issue, in my opinion. Telling them that professional behaviour is likely to be looked upon more favourably isn't going to be a winning argument in and of itself. For why, see basically the entire post you quoted; there are a lot of emotional reasons (and depending on their goals, some practical ones) not to have a pre-fight, and emotion generally trumps reason. Even more so for Neji and Naruto than most people, really.
And speaking of Kabuto?
Elite-jounin class infiltrator after all; there is very little chance we could have escaped his notice with only Dex 5 + Stealth 2 + Stunt 2.
Don't get me wrong, those are excellent stats for someone who doesn't specialize in Stealth, but dude is Kakashi-class in his area of specialization.
Sight, scent, chakra sense; there are multiple modalities who could have been tracking us by.
Which begs the question: Why did he let us go?
Plan? Convenience? Or one of those random acts of mercy he indulged in occasionally, like healing Hinata, or KOing Kiba and his dog, or considering euthanizing Sasuke to save him from Orochimaru, or giving Naruto intel?
He knows we were there. Just like he knew Hayate was there?
Elite-jounin class infiltrator after all; there is very little chance we could have escaped his notice with only Dex 5 + Stealth 2 + Stunt 2.
Don't get me wrong, those are excellent stats for someone who doesn't specialize in Stealth, but dude is Kakashi-class in his area of specialization.
Sight, scent, chakra sense; there are multiple modalities who could have been tracking us by.
Which begs the question: Why did he let us go?
Plan? Convenience? Or one of those random acts of mercy he indulged in occasionally, like healing Hinata, or KOing Kiba and his dog, or considering euthanizing Sasuke to save him from Orochimaru, or giving Naruto intel?
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
It's possible he genuinely didn't know we were there and that was simply him talking to himself (or trying to freak out any watchers into giving themselves up). Not all that likely, admittedly, but it is possible.
If he did know and let us go... it could be a timing issue, him not feeling he had enough of a window to deal with us before ANBU arrived? Either because of the possible lightshow drawing too much attention, or him not knowing who we were and not wanting to risk jumping somebody who could delay him for those few fatal seconds it takes for things to start escalating.
Another possibility would be him not being concerned about what we learned, as unlike Hayate we didn't actually overhear his conversation with Baki. Less likely than the above reason in my view, as this means he's actively choosing to blow his cover, but still relatively plausible.
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Tenten: So you're one of the legendary Sannin! Some of the greatest shinobi this village has ever produced?!
Jiraiya: That's right kid I'm-
Tenten: So does that mean you can get me Lady Tsunade's autograph?!
Jiraiya:
Tenten is trying not to think about how she saw one of her best friends attempt to murder his cousin, since it really grated with how she sees him. That being said, one of the social options for next week is seeing what's up with Neji. As for Naruto, Tenten really has no opinion of, besides a vaguely positive one since she remember he cheered for her during the preliminary matches. She however, thinks he's going to get wrecked by Neji in their match.
She knows about Tsunade's gambling and drinking problems because she was grilling Gai about her unique traits. And Gai underestimated Tenten's commitment to following in the footsteps of her idol.
Kabuto already did this in canon multiple times. Just for a reference.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Makes sense.
I know, but the matter is confused by the fact he managed to remain a successful spy without losing his cover for years (i.e. most of the time he chooses not to blow his cover); at times he'll reveal himself seemingly on a whim, at others he keeps himself hidden. And his personality is too damn hard to get a good read on to really be sure which one he'd go for in this situation.
...I probably should have been clearer about my thought process with this one in the original post.
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Sorry, could you explain how this risks breaking the Hokage's orders? (I've seen that mentioned in several posts above, and must have missed something while reading the chapter)
Murdered a bunch of ANBU in Sasuke's hospital room before evading Kakashi by jumping out of the window.
At this point in canon, he isn't really bothering with a cover any longer.
One of the reasons why I said Konoha knew something Big was coming, because you do not blow the cover of an agent of that skill and power unless it no longer matters.
Tenten: So you're one of the legendary Sannin! Some of the greatest shinobi this village has ever produced?!
Jiraiya: That's right kid I'm-
Tenten: So does that mean you can get me Lady Tsunade's autograph?!
Jiraiya:
Int 3, Lore 1, Stunt 2. Average of 3 sux. Legendary is 5 sux.
The books are sold publicly
IC, you can't research Tsunade without figuring the number of times she's pounded Jiraiya for being a perv; canon Jiraiya himself did say the closest he's been to death was Tsunade pounding him for peeping on the women's baths.
And this was after 4-tails Naruto gave him a shellacking.
I would be very surprised to find that she isn't at least peripherally aware of the general xtics of both Jiraiya and Oro, with more info on Jiraiya because he is still loyal.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
The Hokage ordered us not to talk about anything we saw, and the whole reason we know about the change to the match order is because of what we saw (Gaara going murderous). It might fall into a grey area as it doesn't directly relate to the Sound/Sand/Hayate stuff, and we might be able to get away with it if we only mention the change and not why we know, but personally I'd rather not risk it without confirmation it's okay.
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- Massholistan
On one hand yes, on the other hand. His status as a spy hasn't really filtered down to the lower ranks and village guards. There's not like, wanted posters on the street. We see this when Hayate got murdered in canon. He bluffs his way past some guards who came to investigate the noise basically without even trying.
Yeah, that's basically what will happen. It can be assumed she knows Jiraiya has...problems with women and Orochimaru is just super bad news all around. Though nothing much beyond that. She knows more about Tsunade for obvious reasons.Int 3, Lore 1, Stunt 2. Average of 3 sux. Legendary is 5 sux.
The books are sold publicly
IC, you can't research Tsunade without figuring the number of times she's pounded Jiraiya for being a perv; canon Jiraiya himself did say the closest he's been to death was Tsunade pounding him for peeping on the women's baths.
And this was after 4-tails Naruto gave him a shellacking.
I would be very surprised to find that she isn't at least peripherally aware of the general xtics of both Jiraiya and Oro, with more info on Jiraiya because he is still loyal.
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